The Bullshit Asymmetry Principle
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It’s easier to fool someone then convince them they have been fooled.
Yup everything that comes out of the governments and their bought and run proganda outlets is full of lies and deception.
Most of the time what we get are competing narratives and all of them are misinformation. First one needs a standard for true information and a worldview that can ground it.
You are definately the one spitting bullshit...
"Empty space is a shape"...
"The earth is flat but has no edge"
"Gravity doesn't exist"...
Give me a break. Definitely you... And I'll tell you one thing... The only reason I'm here responding is for entertainment.
As soon as you get boring I'm done and i'll stop responding to you, because I'm not putting in real work to refute bullshit.
So can I ask you just straight up... Do you have a way to measure the levelness of a laser beam to an accuracy greater than 1/1,000th of a degree?
Cause I'll accept your experiment as valid if you can, but then you must also accept it as valid when it measures a drop.
You most certainly did not explain it...
And it most certainly does matter... If you can't guarantee the levelness of the laser any measurements you take on the other side are invalid.
And I swear to god... if you respond with "nuhh, uhh I did explain it" and you don't link to your previous comment, you're getting blocked, cause your entertainment value is out the door when the annoyance factor reaches a certain level.
My point is were onto like the 3rd or 4th proof that the earth is a sphere.
If you get that laser perfectly level, I will accept your experiment and it will prove me right.
Show me what instrument they used to gauge the levelness of the line then.
Water is not a level.... Much less an open body of water with wind and waves.
Give me fucking break. That's even more retarded than thinking the earth is flat.
No, it's not within the margin of error at all.
Let's do the math...
https://www.calculator.net/triangle-calculator.html?vc=&vx=2&vy=&va=90&vz=126720&vb=&angleunits=d&x=Calculate
Angle A = 90 degrees (the target standing vertically)
Side B = 2 inches (a desirable margin of error)
Side C = 126720 inches (2 mile distance)
Result: Angle B = 0.00090429. (the angle of the laser on the 1st bank)
That means for roughly every 1/1,000th of a degree that laser is off, the dot on the other end will be 2 inches higher or 2 inches lower.
That's a range of 4 inches. That's an acceptable tolerance.
But the most accurate construction levels I could find boast an accuracy of 0.029 degrees. https://vinatools.de/70-nivo-spirit-levels/
So assume you use that tool and it tells you that the laser is level...
But really it's 0.029 degrees off from true level....
Now lets plug that info into the triangle calculator, and see what our margin of error becomes at a distance of 2 miles.
https://www.calculator.net/triangle-calculator.html?vc=&vx=&vy=&va=90&vz=126720&vb=0.029&angleunits=d&x=Calculate
Angle A = 90 degrees (target standing vertically)
Side C = 126720 inches (2 miles)
Angle B = 0.029 (the margin for error when using a construction level)
Result: Side B = 64.13876 inches (the margin of error you will get)
That means if the laser is off by just 0.029 degrees it will be 64 inches higher or 64 inches lower than your desired target.
That is a range of 128 inches that you can expect to be off in either direction when using a construction grade leveler.
Saying something stupid and then trying to flip the burden of proof onto me to disprove it?
Nope.... Not having it...
With this final piece of sophistry your entertainment value is officially gone. Consider yourself blocked.
And one more thing before you're blocked for good...
Here's a list of all the things you've been totally wrong about that I can remember.
1.) You said the horizon doesn't curve... It in fact does because it travels in a big circle and ends where it started. That's a curve.
2.) You said you can't observe the curvature of the earth... You can by verifying that the distance of the horizon gets farther away when you go higher up.... That is observing the curvature along one axis. Then you can observe it along another axis by verifying that no matter what height you go to the horizon will always be the exact same distance away in all directions.
3.) You denied the geometric tautology that every shape has an edge, and tried to define empty space as a shape.
4.) You told me an experiment for proving the earth is flat. And yet, you quickly back-tracked and attacked YOUR OWN experiment as invalid because you didn't like the lake I picked.
5.) You claimed that you can eyeball a laser pointer level to an of accuracy of 1/1,000th of a degree, and then put the burden of proof onto me to disprove it.
Just to put the stupidity of that into perspective, that is more than 5x as precise as the base of the great pyramid of Giza, which is renowned for being one of the most precise buildings ever constructed in human history.
And while you are at it... Go ahead and tell me why my long distance version of the exact same experiment DOESN'T work.
Even though you don't need to hold the laser perfectly level in my version and just need to verify the light is visible at any point.
That ought to be entertaining.
It's literally the exact same as your experiment except it's far enough away that you don't have to care or measure the exact angle of the laser, only whether or not it's visible.
You make the target a camera lens instead of piece of cardboard.
No ultra accurate leveling device is needed... Just repeated moving flashes in a general direction that can be done by hand. And you either see the flashes from across the lake, or you don't.
At a distance of 200 miles on a curved earth the light would not be visible... But on a flat earth you should still be able to see the flashes even if only briefly...
Record even one flash from that distance and you win...
BTW...... Here's what the internet has to say about your claim that the atmosphere makes it impossible to shine a laser 200 miles.
200 miles is only it's EFFECTIVE range... Meaning the range at which the laser still carries enough energy to destroy a missile. If you are measuring how far the light might be still be detectable from it's going to be SIGNIFICANTLY farther than 200 miles.
And lastly, your fucking idea of eyeballing a laser pointer using a lake and calling it level is stupid because that's subjective and allows you to point the laser wherever you want.
You will simply coordinate with someone on the other side adjusting the laser in the slightest increments until it hit's exactly where you want and then you will call it "perfectly level" with no objective instrument to verify your claim and a source of "trust me bro, I looked at it real good".
I'm not unblocking you FYI.... Just debunking your final red herring.... Well, I'm sure not your FINAL red herring... Just the final one I'm gonna put up with....
Not going down another ridiculous side-track with you. Every single one you've sent me down so far has been total bullshit. This one would be no different.
You're just trying to change the subject because I just proved you can't hold the laser level at a distance of 2 miles.
Tell me how you managed to determine that eyeballing the laser next to a lake is more accurate than a construction level... which would still leave you off by 64 inches at 2 miles.
who needs good counterargument when this ngga makes posts like this
Easily refutable when asking the right questions or unearthing inconsistencies.
I'm surprised nobody here has picked up that I'm talking about the posts on this site, not the government.
The government is quite busy here.
Ohh they hate the jews too huh?
Marginalizing us has nothing to do with "hating the Jews." Why would you write something so--Ohh, right.
Are you a muslim?
Which posts?
Just about all of them... Pick any conspiracy claim on this site, and ask how they know. Ask where they are getting their information from and to cite their sources.
You will be called a jew and a lazy bastard for not doing "your own research".
If you're looking for a specific example, this is the one that prompted me to post this: https://scored.co/c/Conspiracies/p/17t1fUBWR3/x/c/4ZBIe9CT7xP?d=50.
It was a 144p potato quality video of some idiot filming his computer screen. And he was on some website looking at a weather map of the US, pointing at colors on the screen and calling them "electromagnetic waves".
I pointed out that this guy didn't even tell anyone what site he was on or what map he was looking at, much less how he determined what he thought he was seeing. And like usual, some idiot comes in and tells me I should "do research" and stop being lazy.
So that's a pretty good microcosm to serve as an example of what I encounter on this board all the time. Some idiot makes a ridiculous claim with nothing to back it up, which took them 5 seconds to compose, and when you're skeptical of it, they try and give you a 5 hour homework assignment to disprove it. And of course even if you took up the challenge, and debunked their claim with an encyclopedic level of thoroughness, all that will happen is they won't read it.
I can sympathize with people that don't want to explain common and obvious truths to people who are brainwashed.
I have talked with conspiracy deniers who don't even accept basic common knowledge facts that are counter narrative, and I don't have time for that.
We make time for that! You aren't having a one-on-one conversation to persuade the other party, but rather a public discourse where the other party is actually a sockpuppet army whose collective goal is to persuade everyone reading.
Now do you see why truth tellers always lose?
I disagree with the always lose part. The sockpuppet account is definitely possible.
I think the biggest problem with spreading the truth is that most people can't handle it. Even "no nonsense" Adam Carolla said if it were true that 9/11 was an inside job he didn't want to know because it would mess up his perception of reality. Basically like "hey don't spoil my good time".
So you get to sit back and take 5 seconds to say "nuhhh uhhh, Retailers aren't leaving the city in droves, you're being dramatic".
And I am supposed to respond by reading and linking to 15 articles?
Yeah, no....
You provide sources.... You read and link to me 15 articles telling me why the murders and shootings shown here don't count: https://heyjackass.com
Where are you quoting me from? It doesn't look like something I said in this thread.
Oops... My bad... Dropped a comment in the wrong thread.
What you encountered was one of the fake accounts that exists to make the readers believe--just by looking at the username--that there are a good number of people here who believe the Q hoax. Those are almost certainly sockpuppets.
Just wait until you realize that some of the loudest people here are actually just Muslims pushing their beliefs that come from Islam about Jews.
They let the mask slip enough. Piss drinkers, they muddy the waters with their bs.
That is a misdirection.
Holy shit... I never even considered that, but it would make total sense.
Depends on your knowledge base imho
The disinfo is crafted by technical experts.
So skilled they are that they failed to sway purebloods
The disinformation is believde by the vast majority of people.
EDIT: Typo
a) Amount of energy implies one...for all is one in energy.
b) Suggested amount (to rise) tempts one to ignore that only during fall (inception towards death) can one rise (life).
c) Fall (motion) and Rise (matter) of energy.
d) Motion generates momentum for the production of matter.
e) Product (life) cannot refute/drive back generation (inception towards death)...it can be tricked to spend resistance on refuting other products aka selling self out; when buying into others.
f) Suggestion (information) becomes the inversion of perception (inspiration)...if one consents to it.
g) Suggested information tempts one to miss perceivable inspiration by ignoring/denying it. Suggested "misinformation" tempts one to ignore perceivable..."information tempts one to miss inspiration".
Furthermore...ones consent to suggested information establishes a conflict of reason against another, hence DIS-information aka a division among form.
h) Information tempts one to hold onto it; inspiration cannot be held onto; since it moves. Inspiration cannot be refuted...only ignored.
i) Suggesting others to refute information is easy; choosing to let go of all the suggested information one holds onto, as to free oneself within perceivable inspiration...that becomes harder and harder; the more one burdens self with suggested information.
Example: "I need more information about why it is so hard to let go"...a burdening problem.