I write this because it is a topic that i think it's quite fundamental, but i wanted the input of this board again.
I remember writing a post about it a couple months ago that sparked some discussion, i was interested in asking around if anyone had developed an opinion about it in the meantime, has one already, or even did some research.
Cheers!
I've been studying the general topic for several years, and just from casually collecting evidence have come up with enough for several books. Which no one would read, and the few that did would just be "hate reading" it.
But the idea is solid and the evidence is all around, it's just that it's ignored, misinterpreted, and hijacked. Most people have no interest in it, the few that do will never get to the truth because they already "know the answer". Finally, the handful that could and should put the pieces together end up avoiding it because the truth is pretty disturbing on a very deep level. And pushing back the frontiers necessarily means having every single other person disagree with you.
I consider it the premier "conspiracy", but for certain reasons it's beyond the reach of almost all so-called conspiracy theorists. The space is filled with disinformation agents and various charlatans. Mauro Biglino was the last researcher whose work I could recommend without reservation, but it seems even he was "turned" in 2023. If you choose to study it, you have to be prepared,to--at some point--break with the opinion of every "expert" or "authority" for this reason.
A lot of the books written on it are Jewish made up lies, started by Jewish authors with nefarious goals and an incredible amount of Jewish funds and promotion. Later picked up by useful idiots and gained traction. When I say this I am specifically talking about the "Anunnaki". Jews deliberately distorted their history to make it alien when it was nothing of the sort.
Hindus have lots of stories like them. And without referring to annunaki specifically, sumerians undoubtedly show lots of gods and mangods stories.
If you think those are all forgeries made by specifically jews i think you are mistaken.
And what of the others?
Perhaps it is the case, I really do not know about the other references and I have not investigated or researched this topic thoroughly.
But I am just referring mainly to the works of Zacharia Sitchin and Immanuel Velikovsky. They have been the ones most pivotal in starting this movement.
Those who have in depth research and study into Iraqi and Egyptian history have discovered that both Sitchin and Velikovsky not only were deliberate frauds, but ones who worked along with large teams to create those very convincing lies. This is not a small one man show scam.
This throws doubt on similar works of the same nature, you need to be an expert in the languages those other books such as the hindu ones. Both Sitchin and Velikovsky concocted carefully made up lies that are hard to debunk unless you are careful. The interpretations of the Hindu ones are probably on the same level.
I am just saying to take work of that nature with extreme care. Some of these books will sound very convincing but the devil is in the details.
I have not based myself around the works of neither these two.
The work of Mauro Biglino on the topic is quite honest, as he translates directly and leaves the interpretation to the reader; he just ask himself questions about the literal text from masoretic hebrew.
The fact is that all ancient mythology rhymes and you don't need to read modern books to see it.
You can just read decently translated (as close to literal) translations and see that it's all here. Biglino himself does nothing but show you the original literal meaning (that's for the bible atleast).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_King_List
Mahabharata for a long story with similar themes as being the oldest epic, and the sumerian dinasty king tablet do not suffer from said Sitchin interpretation and is not obscure in meaning for example.
"We are property "
Here's some dribble...
Something hit this planet late 1700- early 1800s. Us...the "orphan ships from europe" escaping the "black plague" is cover for the evil to rape a peaceful existence. We are descendants of either good or bad, depending on whatever.
And the same will happen to us at one point or another
There's a lot of evidence that these 'aliens' don't have our best interests at heart, and aren't telling us the truth. I just saw a great video on this in fact:
Ultraterrestrial Conspiracy Theories https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyA6MbRzi1Q
As I see it, there are (more than) a couple options:
the punctuated evolution theory - as part of the 26,000 year precession cycle, human existence is basically a training ground for souls. We incarnate here over and over until we learn some fundamental lessons about existence. To ensure that this classroom never gets too disordered, the board is intermittently wiped clean (roughly every 26,000 years, according to multiple lines of thought like the Yuga calendar, the work of catastrophists like Carlson, Hancock, etc, various esoteric ideologies like the “Law of One”, and many religious systems). This explains the suffering in the world (it’s a challenge to be overcome). The earth is a classroom, our “teachers” exist outside of this classroom in some manner and our goal is (perhaps) to comprehend that and thus progress to eventually join them “outside the class”. In this framework most all of the world’s religions, mystery cults, etc are in aid of passing this information to us in a form we can comprehend.
the cosmic farm theory - we were “planted” here, in order that one day, after our crop grows nice and ripe, we (or our “mental energy”, “loosh”, “vril”, “vital essence”, “souls”, or even the planet’s gold lol, who knows) may be ”harvested”. This too explains the suffering in the world. This might be the most “Godless” universe to live in. One where aliens are unopposed and total in their domination. Religious belief systems in this framework most likely become “tricks” or “traps” (we’ve all probably seen a post on why we “shouldn’t go towards the light” after death, or the “Saturn soul cube” or whatever)
ancient astronaut theory - a bit of column A and a bit of column B. Punctuated global catastrophes present a technological civilization with two options: dig in, or leave. Whatever the catastrophe is - massive solar flares, pole flip leading to temporarily no magnetosphere, asteroid clogging the skies, nuclear winter, basically anything global in scale. According to soyence, “anatomically modern humans” have existed for a minimum of 300,000 years. I think it’s quite likely that at SOME POINT during this 300,000(plus) span of time, with intermittent global catastrophes occurring many, many times, atleast once have we managed to leave the Earth in order to survive. Most likely landing on the Moon. The Moon, which has so many mathematical oddities and myths, and legends of intelligent beings associated with it to make it a story worth exploring in and of itself. So all that is to say: No John, you are the demons
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reptillians were here first, evolved from reptiles.
Annunnaki swung through, saw gold, wanted gold. Annunnaki saw primates, fired up their version of CRISPR, made humans.
Maybe Annunnaki gave humans awareness or "souls"/spirituality/consciousness, maybe humans ate 'shrooms, maybe Annunaki asked a favor of Dogon to contribute spirtiuality/consciousness, maybe spirituality/consciousness is inherent in matter.
also possible we're in a soul trap simulation, as part of the "consciousness field" that surrounds planet earth/planets in general. we're being contained to generate energy of some sort. a thought which makes me simultaneously feel bad for batteries and wonder if the entirety of my life was just a spark among others powering some cosmically ginormous multi-dimensional entity's iPod.
If you read Biglino's work, from his translation it's pretty obvious the eden (gan-eden) was some sort of genetic engineering biolab.
Adam being the first working prototype of human, a modified monkey with part of the elohim dna to boost the brain. Darwin himself said man evolution has no place in nature.
The original sin, the fruit, being the discovery by part of the slaves, once given a female, that they could copulate and breed of their own volition. This didn't make the masters happy, so like scorned adults they said 'kids, wanna live on your terms? go work the land and see if you like it'.
True? False? The literal translation sure speaks of it. There is no 'proof', but all evidence shows it is extremely likely something like this happened... And then we get this recount.
It really make so much sense if you consider all the rest.
The Annunnaki creating humans to mine gold is the most preposterous explanation IMO. It seems ridiculous that, while mastering space flight, and generic manipulation, they're still relying on manual labor to mine gold and not robots/machinery. Humans aren't anywhere near as advanced as the supposed Annunnaki and we have found gold mining methods more sophisticated than manual labor
Religion makes way more sense when looked at through this lens.
I likey.
Intelligent Design is a free download from rael.org. Netflix is also releasing a docu-series about him.
Vice already released one that is pretty good.
I do not trust rael.org for the weird spin they got on it and the obvious agenda behind it. Those same infos are available from other sources anyway.
Anyway, thanks for the input but i wasn't looking for more sources, just your opinion on the topic.
What is the obvious agenda you're interpreting? For my own curiosity, I'm interested in how others perceive him and the movement.
My opinion is that parthenogenesis by an alien race explains life on Earth and humanity better than any other theory.
Bro if you can see titles such as 'getting ready to serve elohim' and 'how to best lick elohim ass again' and can't see an agenda i can't help you there
I have no idea what you're talking about, but you probably already know that.
I paraphrased.
Nah brah, you just made shit up.
Anyone can see...
Moving up the list of things in actively considering
Clif High has been regularly talking about elohim stuff for the past several months on his podcasts
Jeff Berwick starting to talk about it as well, and is reading The Apocalypse of Yadjnavalkya
Several others around the internet talking about aliens more often... So definitely in a period where this topic is trending for some reason
I don't believe it likely because of the bible alone.
I studied different traditions, and they all have very similar reports of past 'alien god tech' mythology. All ancient history coincides on this in its 'mythology' which may then have been improperly labeled
i don't "believe" or "not believe", just considering all ideas and interpretations that lots of different people are speaking about for the time being. i'll let everything stand the test of time and see what holds and what doesn't
there's also Jason Breshears (Archaix) who has a very different perspective on the nephilim; he reckons that they are simply GMO'd humans (likely White) that were introduced into the geographical regions where other humans viewed them as "godlike". I don't believe it but it's an interesting perspective
basically keeping an open mind on all takes regarding aliens/elohim/nephilim
I don't 'believe' or 'don't believe' either, i 'believe likely or less likely'. And this is quite the highest chance for a myth to be true (and relevant) in my opinion, atleast at the moment.
I'm sry but this is quite possibly very dumb.
And who made those GMO's humans? That's talking the same thing.
Also the sky descent is also present in all traditions
on the surface it does sound dumb, I agree. but i haven't looked into it enough myself personally to fully say. that was just an example from Archaix. of a perspective that isn't commonly heard of, and so sounds dumb
beyond that the question of who made GMO humans, I can only speculate because like i just said i haven't looked into it too much myself yet. I am only starting to be more active in this topic.
He does seem to be wanting to be disagreeing while actually agreeing, which is what i find dumb. Then again didn't see his work.
A good place to start would be the ancient sumerians original texts (translated), like the epic of gilgamesh and the enuma elish, aside documents like the king dinasty tablet.
You could then try to look the discussion around it.
What do you think of this? It's just a quick, light discussion on the book I mentioned
https://odysee.com/@DollarVigilante:b/Apocalypse-of-Yajnavalkya:6