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Mods, what are the rules for this forum?
posted 2 years ago by Xaviermgk 2 years ago by Xaviermgk +6 / -5

It's just not very clear. If the "Golden Rule" is selectively enforced, it's not really a rule.

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– clemaneuverers [M] 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0 stickied

People are abusing that rule for spurious mass reporting of other users. I knew it would happen if we set out specific rules, that's one of the reasons I personally never put any rules in the sidebar. It's a nice idea, but in practice it goes like this:

People use the report feature as part of their debate strategy. They lay bait to another user they are arguing with, or start an argument with someone they don't get on with, just for the sake of arguing, and when their opponent strays outside of the topic of argument the comment is reported. Very reddit if you ask me.

Most reports here don't seem serious to me. And this website specifically has a free speech ethos, one that tolerates people calling each other names, and encourages moderators to refrain from being overbearing. Read the content policy.

Personally I don't think I've ever reported another user for some comment, on this forum or any other. When someone starts flinging insults in a back and forth, it means they have no argument and their opponent won - even if they don't see it that way. Continuing is pointless and irrational and never leads to resolution.

Sometimes I may have ignored a comment that warranted removal. That's not intentional. But I think most reports are of the caliber that I've described above. I do look out for the serious ones, but they are few and far between.

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– Xaviermgk [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

So, when you called me a liar multiple times, I won.

Cool.

Thanks for your input.

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– clemaneuverers 2 points 2 years ago +3 / -1

I don't think I called you a liar. I said you were telling lies about me, which you were, and then you said something like "so you're calling me a liar?". Anyway, calling someone a liar, who is specifically telling lies about you with malicious intent, is not slander. It's an accusation.

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– Xaviermgk [S] 1 point 2 years ago +2 / -1

You are even LYING about calling me a liar.

WOW

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– clemaneuverers 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I stand by my accusation. You told a lie about me to influence another mod in an attempt to get me removed as mod.

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– Xaviermgk [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

in an attempt to get me removed as mod.

Yet another LIE.

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– Xaviermgk [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Where did I try to get you removed?

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– Xaviermgk [S] 0 points 2 years ago +2 / -2

You told a lie about me to influence another mod in an attempt to get me removed as mod.

I wasn't trying to "influence" the mod, I was making him aware of the situation.

Even HE was taken aback by the way you acted.

PutinLovesCats 1 point 2 months ago +1 / -0

Why are you getting so defensive, dude? I just asked you a question. As for what that user is saying, I'm just hearing their side and having a convo. It's being taken with a grain of salt. However, what they said about you protecting/allowing Tallest (what the fuck ever) is true. You did, or at least turned a blind out (you admitted that). That is questionable, IMO, because they weren't just exercising free speech, they were actively and openly harassing other users here whilst constantly making calls to violence. That's fucked up.

You said it was cheeky "good fun/meme", but, like that user said, how many people left because that user? Why would you allow that? It's rhetorical, you already "told" me.

Anyways, this is transparency. Mods and users being able to talk freely amongst each other, as equals. So, chill the fuck out and stop being so defensive.

Oh Clem, ye of little memory.

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– clemaneuverers 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Lol. You can detail your vague accusation from then here right now if you like. No matter what you say, you wont be banned for it.

It was never my intention to ban you over this. I was challenging you to explain your vague and bogus accusation, which you never did and still haven't.

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– Xaviermgk [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Ok, just admit that you openly condone the HARASSING of other users. It's just a handful of people that do it. You could drop them at the blink of an eye.

But you won't.

Correct?

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– Xaviermgk [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

LOL

What is funny?

I just said a specific user.

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– Xaviermgk [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

No matter what you say, you wont be banned for it.

I no longer trust you, sorry.

You lied AGAIN and said that I tried to have you removed as mod.

You will just keep lying.

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– Xaviermgk [S] 1 point 2 years ago +2 / -1

You are a liar. You know that you are. No point pretending to be all upset about it.

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– Xaviermgk [S] 1 point 2 years ago +2 / -1

who is specifically telling lies about you with malicious intent,

Holy shit, I have "malicious intent" now?

KEEP LYING

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– Xaviermgk [S] 0 points 2 years ago +2 / -2

Saying "I dare you" to me is malicious.

You crimped my "free speech" with a threat.

Some "free speech ethos".

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– TallestSkil 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

It literally isn’t. I dare you to disprove anything I have ever said which contradicts something you’ve said. You wouldn’t do it if I dropped the first four words. You wouldn’t do it if I swapped the first four words with “Can you please." You simply won’t do it, because you know you can’t. You’re so much of a coward that you refuse to defend yourself against truth. That tends to offend.

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– Xaviermgk [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

This is nice rhetoric and all, so that's why I was banned for over a month by Axo and threatened with banning by you, along with you calling me a liar, multiple times.

Ah yes, that free speech ethos.

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– Xaviermgk [S] 2 points 2 years ago +3 / -1

Clem said someone "vouched" for Tallestskil, and he's bulletproof since.

Amazing.

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– TallestSkil 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

vouched for TallestSkil

I actually don’t believe that, lol.

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– TallestSkil 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

normie

Oof, an actual insult. I’m genuinely offended. At least, I would be if you were in any way, shape, or form correct. But you’re not. And you know it.

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– TallestSkil 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

HOW DARE YOU DEMAND THAT I PROVE A CLAIM THAT I MADE

DON’T YOU KNOW HOW THIS WORKS, GOY

YOU HAVE TO PROVE YOUR OWN INNOCENCE

I CAN SAY ANYTHING I WANT ABOUT YOU AND IT MAGICALLY BECOMES TRUE SIMPLY BECAUSE I SAID IT

And the hilarious part is that you’re only personally attacking me (direct violation of the rules) as a pathetic misdirection away from the actual discussion. Because you are incapable of discussing any actual topic since all you can post thereon is proven falsehoods.

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– Xaviermgk [S] 1 point 2 years ago +2 / -1

Dude, clem just said I lied about him with "malicious intent".

Can't make this shit up.

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– Xaviermgk [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Link is broken...

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– Xaviermgk [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

LOL, That is wild.

Probably allmodsarefags. That guy was pretty legit.

Funny how that TallestSkil got banned so quick. I thought the mod just said he doesn't like to ban?

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– Xaviermgk [S] 1 point 2 years ago +2 / -1

Here's what Clem said to me before:

Me: it's Clem banning people that talk about specific shills, especially if they make a post about it.

clemaneuverers: Explain this vague quote in more detail, I dare you.

Why is a mod threatening me?

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– clemaneuverers 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

it's Clem banning people that talk about specific shills, especially if they make a post about it.

Ah yes, this was the lie. Thanks for reminding me.

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– Xaviermgk [S] 1 point 2 years ago +2 / -1

So, you did not threaten me with banning, correct?

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– Xaviermgk [S] 1 point 2 years ago +2 / -1

It wasn't a lie, and I didn't have malicious intent.

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– Xaviermgk [S] 1 point 2 years ago +2 / -1

You banned allmodsarefags. Twice, maybe more, I don't know.

His thoughtcrimes were too much.

And he was a decent user for a long time.

Another lie of mine, right?

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– Third-Eye-Vision 2 points 2 years ago +4 / -2

Makes sense, this dude is always arguing and personally attacking people, telling them to off themselves.

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– TallestSkil 2 points 2 years ago +4 / -2

Wrong. If you were physically capable of defending your beliefs, you wouldn’t be attacked for spamming proven falsehoods.

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– BladesLastBottle 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

same the guy who does nothing but sperg and false report

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– TallestSkil 2 points 2 years ago +3 / -1

Who, coward? Not me. I have—and can—prove everything that I have ever said.

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– Xaviermgk [S] 1 point 2 years ago +3 / -2

He won't act like that towards the mods. Ever.

Pretty selective, eh?

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– TallestSkil 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

And here I thought I liked you,

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– Xaviermgk [S] 1 point 2 years ago +2 / -1

Go ahead, talk to the mods like you love to do to others.

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– TallestSkil 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Why can’t you disprove anything I say, then?

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– Xaviermgk [S] 1 point 2 years ago +2 / -1

Nope, you are GOD.

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– TallestSkil 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

The question was ‘why.’

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– Xaviermgk [S] 1 point 2 years ago +2 / -1

Maybe because you didn't say anything?

LOL

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– Xaviermgk [S] 1 point 2 years ago +2 / -1

How come you don't act like this towards the mods?

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– TallestSkil 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Act like what, the exact same person for everyone?

Why are you incapable of defending your own claims?

Why are you incapable of refuting anything I have said?

Why should I tolerate the posting of proven falsehoods that only government shills have ever said?

Why should we be forced to see things legally defined as spam?

Why do we have to accept people who want us dead?

You will answer nothing, coward.

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– deleted 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0
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– TallestSkil 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

you're the ban fag.

So you can’t disprove anything I say?

you deny your comments getting remove regularly? really?

I denied nothing; you’re simply illiterate. There’s no notification whatsoever when anyone’s comments or posts are deleted. I want an example of this claim of yours.

your bad behaviour

Prove it.

here's you proof

THAT’S NOT MY ACCOUNT.

Look at the letters. There’s a capital i in place of one of my lowercase Ls. It’s an impersonation account. It’s not me. Pay attention, for heaven’s sake.

If someone created an account called u/GIowies_love_me (that’s a capital i in place of your lowercase L), it would look exactly the same as yours in the UI (because the font used is sans serif), but it would clearly be a different account and they could libel you by pretending to be you.

lying

What did I lie about? Show the class where I lied. Be careful! You need to actually reply to what a real human being actually said to do so! You can’t do that, as you’ve repeatedly proven.

i always prove you wrong every time I try

You’ve never tried, though. You failed catastrophically right now. You’re going to delete your comment to hide your humiliation, but it’s too late. I’ve archived it.

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– TallestSkil 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

you know you have had plenty of comments removed

Still waiting.

you would just deny

Literally begging for you to prove your point, since I’ve denied nothing and actively have stated that yes, posts are silently deleted without anyone knowing about them.

and i dont want to

So you have nothing, got it. Fuck off, coward.

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– TallestSkil 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

[no argument]

K, thanks for admitting you lied.

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– Thisisnotanexit 2 points 2 years ago +3 / -1

Sidebar: Be respectful. Attack the argument, not the person.

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– TallestSkil 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

That’s not upheld, though.

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– Thisisnotanexit 3 points 2 years ago +4 / -1

Because it's one guy trying to moderate a large number of insolent children. I'm very much of the mind that individuals need to put the smack down themselves because mods simply can't be eveywhere handling everyone's issues. This goes for life my friends, hear me well, only you can stand up and stop nonsense, no one can do it for you. Also stop forest fires. Cheers.

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– Xaviermgk [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

That's why the mod ignored this comment I reported?

Questionable 1 point 1 day ago +1 / -0

Hello? u/Xaviermgk/ u/newfunturistic/? Weren't you two just in here tag teaming me, like a pair of freshly awakened homos in the restroom of transgender dance club? Come on back and give old papa a reach around won't you fellas?

That's attacking the argument?

Plus he "tried" to tag us, but they don't have notifications on here. Even I knew that. LOL

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– Thisisnotanexit 1 point 2 years ago +2 / -1

The mod team is mostly just one person and people are almost never following the rule haha we don't have babysitters so my best to you. You could probably just not reply and when you get messages just go 'pfft' and move on.

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– Xaviermgk [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

They sure seem to babysit certain things though. That's the point. It's not about me, ya know?

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– Thisisnotanexit 1 point 2 years ago +2 / -1

I haven't seen the chain of events so I'm not sure I can help but the way I imagine it is the times their focused are the times they have an abundance of time to devote to those actions but I don't really know. The mods also have their own opinions and they may be contrary to yours but you can check the mod logs and I doubt anyone was 'silenced' for disagreement. But I could be wrong, I'm just speculating.

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– Xaviermgk [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I doubt anyone was 'silenced' for disagreement.

I gave an example in the thread. Guy made a second account and then really got canned quick (mocking the mods is a no-no but the plebs can be mocked relentlessly). Questionable followed me from thread to thread mocking me, for days. I don't care. But if he did that to a mod...gone in a second.

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– Third-Eye-Vision 2 points 2 years ago +3 / -1

Just block them, because this place is about free speech and the hateful demon possessed people in here will never stop to attack you for being a Truthseeker.

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– Xaviermgk [S] 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

because this place is about free speech

Yeah, I wouldn't be so sure about that.

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– Third-Eye-Vision 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

well, I'm pretty sure that all the N-word and K-word posts never got removed from conspiracies.win, so yeah it's all about free speech.

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– Xaviermgk [S] 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Not for some very specific posts that are removed, that don't contain any slurs.

It's much deeper than words that have shock value.

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– Third-Eye-Vision 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Can you give me an example what kind of words or information they contain?

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– Xaviermgk [S] 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Allmodsarefags got banned, and that guy was pretty decent. He had posts removed. The mod log says it all.

He was far more respectful than some of the other users here. Certain types of authority do not like being questioned.

And there is selective enforcement on comments in general, for sure.

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– Eisenhorn 0 points 2 years ago +2 / -2

On the other hand, the mod removed a post saying "Nazis are scum".

Pretty odd, isn't it?

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– Xaviermgk [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Some occultists think you have to "go to the void" to get answers. LOL

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– Xaviermgk [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Perhaps I should all find a better place than this then.

Shit, PMs aren't even private, and they make no illusion about it.

Mods don't care to know or divulge who actually owns it. Mod has called me a LIAR multiple times (for telling the truth), and PutinLovesCats even disappeared just after he talked to the current mod about my "lying". It's all in their comment histories. Mods threatened me with banning for talking about shills.

Should I go on?

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– else 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

PMs aren't even private

30% of internet big sites use "mostly free" CloudFlare anti-DDOS service, partnered with US Feds.

CloudFlare anti-DDOS BANS use of private javacript-encrypted PMs in their usage rules!

Scored cannot encrypt emails, worse the https to cloudflare is a fake illusion. CLICK ON THE SSL KEY!!!! The real data is stored as regular unencrypted http momentarily.

Cloudflare acrchives all user typed info in cleartext for Fed use later. This is their business model.

SCORED CANNOT EVER ADD PRIVATE PMS and keep CloudFlare

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– Xaviermgk [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Good to know!

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