So, if the war has any validity at all, then the 'enemies' in question would be interested in stabilizing the conflict for the next few years.
At the current pace, there is no question we are in a state of global war in its infancy, as the criminals at the helm continue to pound on the war drum and provide endless hostile inputs where diplomacy should be the norm.
With no provision for diplomacy, the only choice for Russia would be to remove the leaders if they can.
So, lets hold a convention in a tiny little ineffective country, let's configure all the air defense of types already proven useless, practically right next to this so called belligerent global threat.
So, in my opinion, if Russia does not decapitate nato at this stage, then the whole thing is being orchestrated by the controlling factors and both parties in the conflict have no intention of being at 'war'
I would do it. Given the stage and intention of the group, it is the only logical course of action.
Putin hardly will do it, even if ordered he will prepare paperwork first - the reason, justification and so on. Bureaucracy and all that stuff. Look how properly the paperwork for Ukraine war was made -DPR/LPR was officially recognized by Russia, then DPR/LPR issue an official invitation of RF army to protect LPR/DPR from Ukraine, then this was voted by RF Supreme Council and so on. Even UN was notified properly. Formally, everything looks perfectly legit. There exist some internal juridical nuances, but the paperwork for international consumer looks very good. Much better than any NATO war.
So, if nothing really significant happen that will give a formal reason to hit Vilnus, nothing will happen with that NATO gathering. Also, take in account all that shady and hidden promises and deals with West and Israel, Putin will keep them as long as possible.
Also, why kill such useful idiots? NATO doing everything to become weaker and humiliate itself as much as possible. NATO weapons is already just a theme for luls in the world.
Could Russia exterminate that pedos in Vilnus? Yes, of course. Would Russia do it? Only if paperwork could be done properly. :)
CrazyRussian coming in with the cold hard facts.
Well, pffftt, I aint gonna let you burst my bubble. There is a chance that even tho Russia has done everything to the letter on the international stage they recognize it has had zero value, it belongs in the history books to be buried unless Russia wins.
So, I would think that behind the scenes this summit was creeping, tons of time to get the paperwork in order, with conditions to dismiss that could have been met but clearly were not. It would be top secret paperwork that very few would be privy to. Work with me here...
At the end of the day, it is the smartest strategic move made by a committed forward thinking military mind. There is no way the west could/would retaliate.
Immediately disperse words to the relevant countries to begin diplomacy or face nukes locally. They would begin diplomacy. Because everyone already knows the risk of attempting to hit Russia with the sub nukes, likely the only viable option.
What is the point of exterminating puppets? Nothing will change really, TPTB just put another puppets and that's all.
Of course that will look very cool in Western MSM, but as everybody here should already understand, Russian administration don't give a fuck about Western MSM.
If my theory about the great battle for NWO model that would be established is correct, then such move will give nothing or even make NATO stronger. Much better outcome for Russia is silent disintegration of NATO due to discord between members. For now Russia and China outplaying West - their models are more stable, sustainable and they keep population under control even under serious pressure. There is nothing good in that, really, but at least this models do not include all that LGBTXYZ+ crap and child grooming.
It is actually an important historical step that if taken would set precedent and basically set the stage for how the multi polar world ordering is to commence, the attitude and opposition factor is in dire need of reset.
So even tho these puppets themselves have no significant value, the story and the backdrop does. It is all about creating the image. With all of the available inputs, we are already at a stage where once this story is told, Russia is well placed hero status.
If however this is not the story told then who knows.
nato has already basically collapsed it is just not yet in paper. The total amount of capability to deliver in this war has revealed a staggering amount of corruption and useless attempts to be effective, cowardly acts and poor planning. Add this to the complete failure in Syria and the result is clear. It is over.
We are already in for what is now possibly going to be decades of war, it does not matter at this point, a bold move would chill the air and give Russia yet another edge.
Not yet. It needs few more members, preferrably from other sides of world, like Japan, some African country and so on.
Today there is only few discords between NATO members - Greece - Turkey, France - UK and possibly Sweden - Finland. But US still able to keep them calm. NATO could rot in that state for many years, to the pleasure of US MIC.
I don't think I can agree here, there is much more to it than the talking heads in the political sphere. The driving force behind nato is basically the ill conceived thought that unipolarity will survive when used against any contenders.
With a series of failures and improper utilization most people with a mind understand it to be a criminal organization beyond even the MIC in the respective countries.
I think the erosion of nato is pretty clear, now that they have this gust of wind trying to pick them up, they still have some more time, but so far nothing is valid, for me it looks like it is pretty collapsed.
I should have mentioned that I kind of look at them still quite separately, implying that I feel China is being positioned to be the next global power and this is somewhat in conflict with the Russian vision of a true multipolar world.
I feel China is playing upto Russia to define relationships to help obtain its own position, this is the nature of the communism installed there currently.
The globalists behind China are at conflict with Russia and most every other uncontrolled human. This is in my opinion the root of the conflicts we see.
I am not convinced Russia is that type of communist controlled anymore, but what do I know.
China is really "internal empire". China through its history barely show any desire to own the world. And all that was relatively small border conflicts. China is very self-pointed. China need trade customers, not colonies, that is why they going around the world now. West is a limited and unreliable customer, so they are creating customers in other places now. Chineese hopefully understand that their way of living is very different from other civilisations and they will not be able to rule over them,
Russia unfortunately is in the same NWO boat with other countries, thanks to the government. All that post-USSR shit with integration into world economy have consequences. But being separate civilisation like China, it is a player between NWO colleagues.
There is one thing that could be important - NWO idea is mostly Western, so at some point non-Western players could reach the point when the West will be thrown under its own bus, and NWO will be reformatted to something new. If you make a table with NWO agendas and their acceptance by NWO player, you will find that only West is accepting all NWO agendas. Other players have some additional things and some things are not acceptable fundamentally. So NWO with its current agenda could be applied only to the West. And without worldwide acceptance it will not be NWO. So some agendas have to be abandoned and may be some added. That will be decided in the current battles between civilisations.
I don't see any nation or civilisation that have real intention to destroy NWO and globalists fundamentally. Only rivalry in the NWO formation.
I don't buy it. For example, at the end of WW2 when the ccp took power, the move to communism was a direction asserted by external parties. The same parties that just flipped Russia working in concert for decades.
Currently when looking at the globalist vision, China is the star model player. In many cases the testing and proving ground for the societal concepts that the criminals want to imbue in western civilizations.
I don't believe this has anything to do with any 'Chinese Vision'. More that China is a tool used as the leadership is manipulated.
China has been ruled over for a very long time. The question in my mind is who is setting the direction and where do these ideas come from.
Without question this has been the case since the attempt to normalize with the west. However from what I can tell there has been great success in removing many facets of the implemented process over the years.
Returning to the capability to be internalized as much as possible is a key indicator.
I personally think nwo is working outside of China and operating China with the vast wealth collected.
Really? How many UN nations recognized these "referendums"?
Nato will decapitate Ukraine before Russia does.
Not really 'on topic'
The statement is that it would be nato decapitated not ukraine, ukraine already has no head?
If you see America (the biggest funder of NATO) stop funding Ukraine all of a sudden, then Ukraine is cooked for good.
They did this to Japan in WW2, they did this with the Tsar, the Nationalist Chinese and Lon Nol
I wonder who is next.
As usual, nothing happened
Pusillanimous Russia
And yet, here you are, glorifying Putin every day.
With what? Nato isn't being decapitated. Nato isn't fighting Russia. Yet?
Russia is fighting Ukraine. Whatever it is, and without funding it is nothing else.
The funding can stop. Nothing would've even happened. It is how unremarkable it is.
Any conflict is specifically about how the conflict resolves, and it has no resolution. So it's a distraction. A stage act. Doing exactly what.
Both suggest they are beating the other, but neither are actually fighting each other. If they do perhaps neither wins.
In the meantime it's a case of who gives up what first. Until then it remains a narrative. Obviously a bit more for anybody involved, they think they're winning something. Hard to say what. Any conflict cannot be resolved without those actually involved losing something.
Topics like this are absurd. You cannot decapitate anything without an actual war between the two you're suggesting. Then they'd both kill each other. Nukes. The Arctic. Instead it's a proxy called Ukraine with big ideas about its actual relevance. It remarkably means little else. Except for some other narrative of assuming something more?
Too most it's boring, go bother somebody else. You have no other consequence, geopolitically. Trade has rerouted. You're a narrative what if you could be more. The country that won something. What? You've already lost far more.
A completely useless and incorrect submission I don't mind saying.
It is like you have no clue what brought this conflict to where it is, no understanding of the history that produced the situation.
Ignorance and simplicity coupled like a leaf sitting in a puddle.
You do mind saying it, because you just said it. It makes you ignorant.
Decapitation can only occur in actual conflict.
Europe will be there all the same. Like Russia will.
In the meantime a corrupt shithole is a World narrative because it thinks to win what? Ascension. It was a free nation. Now it's in war or conflict. It has only lost. Bore somebody else with your bullshit. The rest of the World doesn't care. Any actual trade has rerouted. The same as any flight paths.
Both Russia and Nato are using it for a proxy conflict where neither will gain anything else apart from more dead Ukrainians. Seriously Russia gains more Russia it isn't Ukraine. Nato perhaps gains Ukraine, and it won't be Ukraine either.
Spurious claims of dead Russians, they signed upto this adopting it into law and battle. It makes little difference there. Unless they're significantly defeated, army destroyed. Much harder to do with a nation committed to its warfare. There is no guarantee a regime change will change its stance either.
Nato aren't committed, because they're not fighting. Simply funding. If it stops it stops. Defeating Nato. No. They're not fighting. No defeat. It will be there regardless. Regardless of dumb Ukrainian narratives assuming of some other victory. The same as Russian narratives.
Embarrassment over a loss. Loss of what. Russia can lose, by withdrawal or defeat. Nato cannot. Unless they actually fight each other.
I am sure you'll try to make another narrative about it. Join that club of bleeding hearts propaganda. How it serves some other lofty goal. Spare us.
blah blah blah, it is like you really have no clue what you are talking about and speak from such a simple perspective you cannot even comprehend the reality involved.
The conflict in ukraine has been brewing for many decades, the actions of the west have never ceased, nato at this stage is the current tooling used that is all, in the past it was other mechanisms, what you fail to recognize is that this is now involving far more than ever before in this west vs east conflict.
Nato is 100% involved, they have been the driving force in this conflict since its inception.
Weak false claims that they are not involved belong nowhere, without nato this conflict would not exist at all.
What you fail to recognize likely due to the blinders you are wearing, is that this is the early stages of a much larger conflict that is currently scaling quickly.
Even when nato discovers they are powerless, Russia will continue to push nato back until the complete collapse of nato occurs and they are no longer a threat. Your refusal to recognize why Russia is in this conflict at all, reveals you to be a spinster telling useless lies.
No you. There is no reality involved, unless you're fighting it. You aren't, you're boring everybody else, not bothered about it. It doesn't affect them. Apart from more taxes, causing them to be bored even more by it. Last time we all checked higher taxes happen anyway. What did you want me to say. It professes to big narratives. They amount specifically to winning something. Neither have. It continues to be boring, uneventful for everybody else on the globe.
If somebody wins something, perhaps it might affect something else. Although I actually cannot think of what. Trade continues. Ukraine aren't trading anything, except dead Ukrainians. Nato and Russia continue to trade regardless.
You're assuming a larger conflict. Some other victory. Not unless they engage outside of a dumb proxy nobody else in the World gives a shit about. It's either part of Nato or partially part of Russia. It isn't anything else.
Nato loses nothing, except the funding. Russia potentially loses some of its army fighting or withdrawing. But Ukraine only loses, all those dead.
You're talking about credibility if there is victory it supposedly causes? Who knows. Not much. There's trade or there isn't. The ability to conduct conflict hasn't changed. Like the ability to fund it. Or sanction it.
You write nothing but garbage, are you a jew?
Criminal minds continually push attempts to subvert good people. Good people in turn continue to fight against criminals.
Much shorter, much more logical.
You have no logic. You're worried because you're the CIA offering some other geopolitical strategy. It amounting to what if it costs more? Or were you genuinely concerned about all those taxes buying a proxy war. It constantly trading in dead Ukrainians.
In either event nothing has changed. It ultimately won't unless they fully engage.
There is no decapitation, because there's no direct warfare. Politicians come and go. It won't affect anything else. Decapitation can occur with Putin or Zelenskyy and perhaps the conflict might change strategy. But that's also problematic because Russia has adopted it into law. Ukraine are funded by Nato. Ukraine are also tyrants, there is no election, no dissent against conflict. They die because they were free and now they're told to die. It's the price of Nato.
Nato aren't going anywhere even if Ukraine doesn't ascend. The conflict is otherwise inconsequential unless it escalates, or Russia's military is defeated. Nato's isn't fighting.
Constant stream of useless retort, you are honestly pretty pathetic.
nato is finished, nato is the culprit in many wars, nato has overstepped once and for all, the powers collecting against nato and the other khazarian devil worshippers is more than ever before, history in the making.
Your useless incorrect mental state is inline with your standard leftism protocols. You are basically fully entombed in lies.
Who bombed all those airfields in Russia?
What an incredible plan. I am sure all leaders of NATO countries will fall for it. It's so cunning and unexpected.
Have you proposed it to Putin yet? Maybe he will give you a medal.
It was not 'my idea' to setup the nato summit in Lithuania.
Putin is not in my communication arena, perhaps have your people suggest it to him.
You think that Putin orcastrated the summit so he can kill the NATO leadership?
So how did your theory work out?