So, this means we can get worms and other issues eating raw meat.
I would suggest this shows that the cavemen that initiated cooking did it for more than simply flavor.
Imagine, living and eating and coming past a forest fire you smell the cooked meat, I feel based on this alone, you cooked from that day forward.
Animals in general are nowhere near the capacity of learning and understanding that we have displayed for hundreds of thousands of years now. From the tools to the daily operations, how come animals do not wear clothes? even when they live in the cold?
Animals are not a good place to find how to do from, it is like asking a child what they think they are. They do not have the right ideas yet.
Fresh meat is warm at best, and the texture and consistency are nowhere near as enjoyable as cooked meat.
Immune system is not in scope for this conversation, it is far beyond thinking you can marry the two up. While there is a relationship it is not exposed at the consumption level.
Carcinogenic is a belief system produced by lying wanna be scientists ignore it.
Good luck finding a freezer before power or in areas where cold did not exist.
Eating disease ridden beasts is a quick way to likely end your happy existence, it is likely that the experience of cavemen working with what meat they can find taught us that eating rotten infected diseased meat was possible if you cooked it first.
Meat was often a culprit of unhealthy living until cooking was mastered, there are many reasons why humans improve.
We do many things that animals will likely never achieve. Animals could do well to learn some of our many talents to improve their lives. But in general animals do not seek to improve their lives or change them at all, they are generally content to use all their time eating and sleeping, there are reasons for this we need not delve into. Rest assured animals are not the correct location to find logical practices for humans, you are misled.
This is why we must eat more animals, to remind them who is boss and we should cook them too, so that the smell of the meat wafts over to their cages once in a while also.
Humans do fine eating diseased and rotten meat. stomach ache. big deal.
Nothing wrong with eating a fresh kill, especially if you cook it first, because cooked bacon is way better than raw bacon, cooked beef is way better than raw beef. Smoked salmon is better than sushi.
This entire conversation is just silly, For every raw human you eat, I will cook and eat 6.
Also carnivores like hyenas and lions are more well developed for eating raw meat. Our tongues cannot rip an antelope hide, like a Lions can. A Hyenna can literally digest bone because the stomach acidity. People eat raw fish and meat alot. Sushi, Ceviche, Liver fuckin King.......
Somewhere along the line, people figured out boiling made water safe in situations where it may have been questionable in being fit for drinking. I figured somebody at some point was hungry enough to apply the same logic to meat that didn't look all that fresh, and things started on a roll from there. The fact that cooking not only removed parasites, but denatured some toxins and made certain nutrients a bit more available happened to be a bonus with that discovery.
As most "experts" say making it from wild to the type used today for bread would have taken 8 to 10 thousand years, and it is recorded in Mesopotamia as being bread, I lean towards human civilization being older than the 5000 years mainstream history says.
There are humans who eat raw meat seen it on a documentary. Not simply sushi. Red meat. Not Africans and other tribal hunter gathers who consume parts of their kill raw, the organs and blood. They were otherwise normal, on a farm out in Texas with a chainsaw, no, they needed far more meat to sustain their energy. They had these raw meat shakes and drank milk. Weird. They were rather pale and bloodshot.
There is the raw diet. Fruits, nuts, and other plants all uncooked. Some myth to this. But a possibility.
But human evolution is invasive. As soon as we started cooking and wearing clothes made of animal parts we began an extinction cycle. Humans killed mammoths like whales, hundreds, in traps, and had entire operations of stripping down mammoths and making entire structures out of mammoth bones. So much for a myth we were all attuned. Nope. Evolution in that sense without better architecture doesn't make any sense. Our bodies are far too soft, unlike premium hides, our digestion cannot handle non cooked food well at all. We solely rely on tools. Why would we need to wear clothes, protection, and cook food if we evolved. Nope. Something modified us quite adversely to our natural habitat. It wasn't simply evolution.
But we are talking raw? I dunno about that. But there are some who do. Not just the fresh blood or organs of a kill, or the raw fish or cured meats. Rather actual raw flesh. Unfortunately our stomachs aren't very compatible at all. Same with a raw organic diet. Shits and blood disorders and disease.
As far as evolving into clothing, cooking, and tools went. We do not compete without them. We therefore entered an extinction cycle the minute we supposedly evolved. Making us invasive and not evolutionary. Or we were modified.
Of course you were. No bear wrestlers today. Except underground. Curiously I don't even think Russia has them anymore, sure maybe tamed. Not much of a contest otherwise unless a fruit bear. It probably still has dogs versus bear. Although I cannot imagine it.
Raw Fox liver disgusting. Dogs have bad shits, foxes, wolves especially. One of the worse on the planet, apart from humans, omnivores, that eat everything, and scavengers. Stick to the herbivores on that. Although they are prone to diseases. Often found in red meats.
But the diet has been proved, although it isn't enough energy without constant consumption, and it is highly susceptible to diseases.
When we are talking raw meat, plenty, but they're cured like ham, or seasoned like Sushi, smoked and salted, blood again tribesmen drink this in Africa by the barrel as a test of manhood who can consume the most blood. It has also been known on pig farms. Raw they eat parts of the kill, liver, possible brain, and the heart, occasionally the flesh, these are primarily herbivores.
Bad meat can kill, outright kill. One of the biggest planetary killers before refrigeration was food poisoning.
Haha, there is people very freakish people Indonesia has majority, until it hit the circuts of weirdness, they injest everything. They eat glass for example. It got turned into a freakish fetishism a circus act where they eat whatever, and their digestion will sort it out. They eat everything. Insects on the fly. Sand. Some have been know to eat glass and swallow nails. I cannot think of anything worse, tearing up their insides, this has happened, razor blades removed out of the intestines, or babies eating their cat, but to them raw flesh must be a delicacy. Isn't this how the latest epidemic of black death spread. Mongolia they were eating rats? Perhaps they cooked them first. But who was that rockstar who used to eat them? Bite the heads off live rats? Ozzy Osborne or somebody did this? Now omg poor rat right? I wouldn't advise it. But a heart off a fresh herbivore perhaps. A vegan, right?
We humans used to be covered in fur. We didn't need clothes or homes to survive the weather. We used to be able to drink water from a puddle without getting ill, and we used to be able to eat raw meat.
All of these traits that are basic to surviving outside the helping hand of the government, all these traits have been deliberately bred out of us over the centuries in order to be sure they never lose control.
Some thoughts. We are the smartest (but obviously unwise and self-destructive sometimes) species. So there’s something to be said about that. The individual also suffer much less than back in the day and also compared to other species. But we are still (I think) just animals and all other animals have the same cut throat jungle laws. We just do it in suits / military uniform these days.
From studies in Sweden we see that the diet of Stone Age people in that region predominantly was seafood 80%, mostly shellfish, oysters, clams etc. some was meat, and the smallest 1% was from plant matter.
Most of that - ie the e seafood is eaten raw. And is best raw and known to be loosing nutritional value when heated up. (Eg dha)
We weren’t meant to eat brocolli or peanuts that’s for sure.
The other thing is where on the planet we are/were compared to what we eat. Obviously Inuits only ate meat/fat/seafood. What we can/should eat depends on their sun we are under. High UV vs low UV etc.
I think it’s interesting to look at the diet of WHEN the largest shifts in intelligence happened in the history of mankind. People point to the industrial age and say introduction of more food raised In. Sure, but Iot certainly wasn’t the biggest leaps in intelligence, by far.
Regarding eating raw meat, I see no issue with it and often prefer it. Most seafood I eat raw, steaks are done raw inside, eating heart, liver etc raw.
I think we prioritized that the individual shouldn’t get sick(food, medicine etc), but are sacrificing the whole species because of it.
We're systems of systems and our microbiome has codeveloped with us to support cooked foods diets. Perhaps if we transplant microbiome or could be possible but this would likely lead to other infections and what not
Cooking meat is what fed our early human brains to expand to where they are now.
As for processing food the extent that we do, it is not necessary. It is done to add longevity to a product. I buy bread that is baked in the bakery, which barely lasts 5 days, whereas bread bought from the shelf can last at least 2 weeks. It is the number of preservatives that are added.
The more natural, non-processed (preservative) laden products you consume is best.
However, I will say that we have been genetically modified by the PTB for over 70-100 years. As soon as they started adding fluoride to the water and improving agriculture, they have been slowly modifying our genetics generation after generation.
Most animals have a very limited diet. They only eat a small variety of other creatures and plants. Perhaps humans were the same, once upon a time. If we were only eating a small variety of foods, we didn't have to worry about anything that would be bad for digestion. Becoming the alpha-predators of the world turned just about everything else into food for us. As a result, I'm guessing we had to find ways to make it safe to eat. The necessity of making it safe turned to an art of making it taste good. The cooking is probably just a cultural hold over from our early days of expanding our diet and needing to find a way to make things safe to eat.
That's my 2 cents.
As far as what the healthiest diet currently is for humans...you'll probably get a different answer from every nutritional expert. Perhaps finding out what our native diet was before fire (someone else posted that it was 80% seafood with a small amount of meat and plants). Maybe that's your answer. Of course, our oceans are toxic wastelands these days, so most of the seafood you get is probably tainted.
HU'MAN, adjective [Latin humanus; Heb. form, species.] + AN'IMAL, noun [Latin anima, air, breath, soul.] aka animated (inception towards death) form (life). Adaptation of form to flow implies SPIR'IT, noun [Latin spiritus, from spiro, to breathe].
Consider the following....flow to form (inception); form within flow (life) and form to flow (death) represents transmutation of partial out of whole aka alchemical transmutation of ingredient out of base through "cooking". Next, consider "spirit-cooking" in regard to transmutation of temporary (life) out of ongoing (process of dying).
Why do we need to cook food to eat it?
a) does one need food or does perceivable hunger represents the need forcing one to adapt?
b) what if the process of dying (ongoing loss) "eats" those living within (temporary growth)?
c) nourishment aka NOURISH (cause to grow) + MENT (mind; memory)...what if the process of dying generates the living reactions?
raw
RAW, adjective [Latin crudus, rodo.] - "not altered from its natural state"...what if the state of nature aka the ongoing natural order represents a constantly altering state (flow) for all those within (form)?
Where did cooking come from?
"I baptize you with water. But one who is more powerful than I will come...He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire" ~Luke 3:16
Flow (velocity) causes momentum (balance), within which form (resistance) generates. If flow and form meet within momentum, then that implies friction, vibration; resonance; heat..."do you smell what the ROCK (Latin rupes, rumpo, to break) is cooking?"
Why are we the only animals that do it?
a) falling for the temptation of consenting to suggested (cooking) over perceivable (being cooked).
b) lack of self discernment as ingredient (growth) within base (loss), hence resisting, while dissolving (living) within solution (process of dying).
Can you eat clean raw meat and be perfectly fine? Of course you can. Cooking makes food taste better and easier to eat as well as safer. Eating raw meat/eggs, etc. only increases the risk of getting sick if the food is infected with bacteria or parasites.
Before cooking was homo habilis. We've been cooking a long time, and it's gotten us a long way. We no longer have guts suitable for a lot of raw veggies.
Human's are omnivorous not carnivorous. In addition to meats, leafy vegetables and starches in food such as potatoes are what the body requires. Starches are a special class of carbohydrates that are more reliable then the ones found in wheat.
Cooking denatures proteins and breaks down carcinogens to make foods easier for human consumption. Everything else is just flavor.
So, this means we can get worms and other issues eating raw meat. I would suggest this shows that the cavemen that initiated cooking did it for more than simply flavor.
Imagine, living and eating and coming past a forest fire you smell the cooked meat, I feel based on this alone, you cooked from that day forward.
heh, I think you are off the deep end here.
Animals in general are nowhere near the capacity of learning and understanding that we have displayed for hundreds of thousands of years now. From the tools to the daily operations, how come animals do not wear clothes? even when they live in the cold?
Animals are not a good place to find how to do from, it is like asking a child what they think they are. They do not have the right ideas yet.
Fresh meat is warm at best, and the texture and consistency are nowhere near as enjoyable as cooked meat.
Immune system is not in scope for this conversation, it is far beyond thinking you can marry the two up. While there is a relationship it is not exposed at the consumption level.
Carcinogenic is a belief system produced by lying wanna be scientists ignore it.
Good luck finding a freezer before power or in areas where cold did not exist.
Eating disease ridden beasts is a quick way to likely end your happy existence, it is likely that the experience of cavemen working with what meat they can find taught us that eating rotten infected diseased meat was possible if you cooked it first.
Meat was often a culprit of unhealthy living until cooking was mastered, there are many reasons why humans improve.
We do many things that animals will likely never achieve. Animals could do well to learn some of our many talents to improve their lives. But in general animals do not seek to improve their lives or change them at all, they are generally content to use all their time eating and sleeping, there are reasons for this we need not delve into. Rest assured animals are not the correct location to find logical practices for humans, you are misled.
This is why we must eat more animals, to remind them who is boss and we should cook them too, so that the smell of the meat wafts over to their cages once in a while also.
Humans do fine eating diseased and rotten meat. stomach ache. big deal.
Nothing wrong with eating a fresh kill, especially if you cook it first, because cooked bacon is way better than raw bacon, cooked beef is way better than raw beef. Smoked salmon is better than sushi.
This entire conversation is just silly, For every raw human you eat, I will cook and eat 6.
Also carnivores like hyenas and lions are more well developed for eating raw meat. Our tongues cannot rip an antelope hide, like a Lions can. A Hyenna can literally digest bone because the stomach acidity. People eat raw fish and meat alot. Sushi, Ceviche, Liver fuckin King.......
Unless you count being full of parasites as getting sick.
Somewhere along the line, people figured out boiling made water safe in situations where it may have been questionable in being fit for drinking. I figured somebody at some point was hungry enough to apply the same logic to meat that didn't look all that fresh, and things started on a roll from there. The fact that cooking not only removed parasites, but denatured some toxins and made certain nutrients a bit more available happened to be a bonus with that discovery.
lol, as I said, their claims are based on lies from long ago. Not interested.
plants are toxic. that's why animals and babies spit it out, while "adults" are smart and eat them. kek
Want to make an archaeologist or historian uncomfortable ? Ask where wheat came from? Wild wheat is poison to humans.
Many plants we eat are..
white flour is a neurotoxin and the cause of lots of so called mental illnesses
what answer do you propose?
As most "experts" say making it from wild to the type used today for bread would have taken 8 to 10 thousand years, and it is recorded in Mesopotamia as being bread, I lean towards human civilization being older than the 5000 years mainstream history says.
Yawn.
There are humans who eat raw meat seen it on a documentary. Not simply sushi. Red meat. Not Africans and other tribal hunter gathers who consume parts of their kill raw, the organs and blood. They were otherwise normal, on a farm out in Texas with a chainsaw, no, they needed far more meat to sustain their energy. They had these raw meat shakes and drank milk. Weird. They were rather pale and bloodshot.
There is the raw diet. Fruits, nuts, and other plants all uncooked. Some myth to this. But a possibility.
But human evolution is invasive. As soon as we started cooking and wearing clothes made of animal parts we began an extinction cycle. Humans killed mammoths like whales, hundreds, in traps, and had entire operations of stripping down mammoths and making entire structures out of mammoth bones. So much for a myth we were all attuned. Nope. Evolution in that sense without better architecture doesn't make any sense. Our bodies are far too soft, unlike premium hides, our digestion cannot handle non cooked food well at all. We solely rely on tools. Why would we need to wear clothes, protection, and cook food if we evolved. Nope. Something modified us quite adversely to our natural habitat. It wasn't simply evolution.
That's the spirit.
But we are talking raw? I dunno about that. But there are some who do. Not just the fresh blood or organs of a kill, or the raw fish or cured meats. Rather actual raw flesh. Unfortunately our stomachs aren't very compatible at all. Same with a raw organic diet. Shits and blood disorders and disease.
As far as evolving into clothing, cooking, and tools went. We do not compete without them. We therefore entered an extinction cycle the minute we supposedly evolved. Making us invasive and not evolutionary. Or we were modified.
Of course you were. No bear wrestlers today. Except underground. Curiously I don't even think Russia has them anymore, sure maybe tamed. Not much of a contest otherwise unless a fruit bear. It probably still has dogs versus bear. Although I cannot imagine it.
Raw Fox liver disgusting. Dogs have bad shits, foxes, wolves especially. One of the worse on the planet, apart from humans, omnivores, that eat everything, and scavengers. Stick to the herbivores on that. Although they are prone to diseases. Often found in red meats.
But the diet has been proved, although it isn't enough energy without constant consumption, and it is highly susceptible to diseases.
When we are talking raw meat, plenty, but they're cured like ham, or seasoned like Sushi, smoked and salted, blood again tribesmen drink this in Africa by the barrel as a test of manhood who can consume the most blood. It has also been known on pig farms. Raw they eat parts of the kill, liver, possible brain, and the heart, occasionally the flesh, these are primarily herbivores.
Bad meat can kill, outright kill. One of the biggest planetary killers before refrigeration was food poisoning.
Haha, there is people very freakish people Indonesia has majority, until it hit the circuts of weirdness, they injest everything. They eat glass for example. It got turned into a freakish fetishism a circus act where they eat whatever, and their digestion will sort it out. They eat everything. Insects on the fly. Sand. Some have been know to eat glass and swallow nails. I cannot think of anything worse, tearing up their insides, this has happened, razor blades removed out of the intestines, or babies eating their cat, but to them raw flesh must be a delicacy. Isn't this how the latest epidemic of black death spread. Mongolia they were eating rats? Perhaps they cooked them first. But who was that rockstar who used to eat them? Bite the heads off live rats? Ozzy Osborne or somebody did this? Now omg poor rat right? I wouldn't advise it. But a heart off a fresh herbivore perhaps. A vegan, right?
We humans used to be covered in fur. We didn't need clothes or homes to survive the weather. We used to be able to drink water from a puddle without getting ill, and we used to be able to eat raw meat.
All of these traits that are basic to surviving outside the helping hand of the government, all these traits have been deliberately bred out of us over the centuries in order to be sure they never lose control.
https://loyalkng.com/2009/10/04/our-ancestor-missing-link-lucy-the-ardipithecus-ramidus-evolution-sure-makes-us-pretty/
Interesting thoughts.
Some thoughts. We are the smartest (but obviously unwise and self-destructive sometimes) species. So there’s something to be said about that. The individual also suffer much less than back in the day and also compared to other species. But we are still (I think) just animals and all other animals have the same cut throat jungle laws. We just do it in suits / military uniform these days.
From studies in Sweden we see that the diet of Stone Age people in that region predominantly was seafood 80%, mostly shellfish, oysters, clams etc. some was meat, and the smallest 1% was from plant matter.
Most of that - ie the e seafood is eaten raw. And is best raw and known to be loosing nutritional value when heated up. (Eg dha)
We weren’t meant to eat brocolli or peanuts that’s for sure.
The other thing is where on the planet we are/were compared to what we eat. Obviously Inuits only ate meat/fat/seafood. What we can/should eat depends on their sun we are under. High UV vs low UV etc.
I think it’s interesting to look at the diet of WHEN the largest shifts in intelligence happened in the history of mankind. People point to the industrial age and say introduction of more food raised In. Sure, but Iot certainly wasn’t the biggest leaps in intelligence, by far.
Regarding eating raw meat, I see no issue with it and often prefer it. Most seafood I eat raw, steaks are done raw inside, eating heart, liver etc raw.
I think we prioritized that the individual shouldn’t get sick(food, medicine etc), but are sacrificing the whole species because of it.
it is. cooking food destroys nutrients. That's why I eat raw meat and raw eggs.
Your post is just filled with bad data. Sorry but your wrong a long of shit....fruit has a lot of minerals, vitamins.....fibre...etc...
We're systems of systems and our microbiome has codeveloped with us to support cooked foods diets. Perhaps if we transplant microbiome or could be possible but this would likely lead to other infections and what not
early humans were dumb an ate plants . Once we figured out to cook and eat mean our brains grew in size and "strength" . thats why
no, eating more meat made our brains grow. eating plants is what tards did that died out
Cooking meat is what fed our early human brains to expand to where they are now.
As for processing food the extent that we do, it is not necessary. It is done to add longevity to a product. I buy bread that is baked in the bakery, which barely lasts 5 days, whereas bread bought from the shelf can last at least 2 weeks. It is the number of preservatives that are added.
The more natural, non-processed (preservative) laden products you consume is best.
However, I will say that we have been genetically modified by the PTB for over 70-100 years. As soon as they started adding fluoride to the water and improving agriculture, they have been slowly modifying our genetics generation after generation.
Most animals have a very limited diet. They only eat a small variety of other creatures and plants. Perhaps humans were the same, once upon a time. If we were only eating a small variety of foods, we didn't have to worry about anything that would be bad for digestion. Becoming the alpha-predators of the world turned just about everything else into food for us. As a result, I'm guessing we had to find ways to make it safe to eat. The necessity of making it safe turned to an art of making it taste good. The cooking is probably just a cultural hold over from our early days of expanding our diet and needing to find a way to make things safe to eat.
That's my 2 cents.
As far as what the healthiest diet currently is for humans...you'll probably get a different answer from every nutritional expert. Perhaps finding out what our native diet was before fire (someone else posted that it was 80% seafood with a small amount of meat and plants). Maybe that's your answer. Of course, our oceans are toxic wastelands these days, so most of the seafood you get is probably tainted.
HU'MAN, adjective [Latin humanus; Heb. form, species.] + AN'IMAL, noun [Latin anima, air, breath, soul.] aka animated (inception towards death) form (life). Adaptation of form to flow implies SPIR'IT, noun [Latin spiritus, from spiro, to breathe].
Consider the following....flow to form (inception); form within flow (life) and form to flow (death) represents transmutation of partial out of whole aka alchemical transmutation of ingredient out of base through "cooking". Next, consider "spirit-cooking" in regard to transmutation of temporary (life) out of ongoing (process of dying).
a) does one need food or does perceivable hunger represents the need forcing one to adapt?
b) what if the process of dying (ongoing loss) "eats" those living within (temporary growth)?
c) nourishment aka NOURISH (cause to grow) + MENT (mind; memory)...what if the process of dying generates the living reactions?
RAW, adjective [Latin crudus, rodo.] - "not altered from its natural state"...what if the state of nature aka the ongoing natural order represents a constantly altering state (flow) for all those within (form)?
"I baptize you with water. But one who is more powerful than I will come...He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire" ~Luke 3:16
Flow (velocity) causes momentum (balance), within which form (resistance) generates. If flow and form meet within momentum, then that implies friction, vibration; resonance; heat..."do you smell what the ROCK (Latin rupes, rumpo, to break) is cooking?"
a) falling for the temptation of consenting to suggested (cooking) over perceivable (being cooked).
b) lack of self discernment as ingredient (growth) within base (loss), hence resisting, while dissolving (living) within solution (process of dying).
Can you eat clean raw meat and be perfectly fine? Of course you can. Cooking makes food taste better and easier to eat as well as safer. Eating raw meat/eggs, etc. only increases the risk of getting sick if the food is infected with bacteria or parasites.
This is not a conspiracy.
Before cooking was homo habilis. We've been cooking a long time, and it's gotten us a long way. We no longer have guts suitable for a lot of raw veggies.
veggies are toxic. nobody with a brain eats raw veggies
Human's are omnivorous not carnivorous. In addition to meats, leafy vegetables and starches in food such as potatoes are what the body requires. Starches are a special class of carbohydrates that are more reliable then the ones found in wheat.
Cooking denatures proteins and breaks down carcinogens to make foods easier for human consumption. Everything else is just flavor.