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posted 4 years ago by braveContrarian 4 years ago by braveContrarian +26 / -0
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– ScutFarkus 2 points 4 years ago +5 / -3

Protracted benzodiazepine withdrawal lasts YEARS. Not a few weeks or a month or two like opiate withdrawal. Years. Nobody should ever have to go through that.

Now, he is also feigning ignorance about the dangers of benzodiazepine addiction instead of dealing with it head on and saying “I was an addict.” Because he most certainly was.

Unfortunately he is trying to play some kind of victim card. Instead of taking responsibility for his own actions and “cleaning his room.”

I lost a lot of respect for this man with the way he has handled this situation. He has done the opposite of what he preaches about.

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– FluhanWu 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0
  1. He is preaching ideals. The preaching and the preacher are still worth their words wether or not they live up to them. It’s the nature of what they do. They speak what we need to hear. He did not get so popular because he always did what he said, rather because so many needed to hear what he said.

  2. Maybe we should separate who he is now from before due to potentially permanent chemical changes to his brain.

  3. Maybe he does not currently see what he needs to do, or he is still addicted to some extent at least (maybe even still using). Maybe he just learned or is still learning how to understand this. Perhaps one day he will be able to look back and clearly see things the way you do from the outside with your convenient perspective.

  4. I could just defending him because I still benefit from his speeches to this day and know others have too. Maybe i’m not taking away enough credit from him because I feel it’s not justified after all he has done for so many including myself.

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– mikhalych 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

He had a first hand experience of what happens when you "take the heaviest load you can bear and carry it". It fucking breaks you, that's what happens. If you're lucky, it breaks you before your hubris makes you reach for "chemical assistance" to make the load more bearable. Peterson wasnt lucky.

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– ScutFarkus -2 points 4 years ago +2 / -4

I don’t think any worse of Jordan because he became dependent on benzodiazepines. I have nothing but empathy In that regard. It’s hell on earth and is quietly becoming an epidemic that will have to be addressed in the near future.

No, my problem lies with how little personal responsibility he has taken for it. He is an informed, intelligent, pragmatic, educated human being. To claim he didn’t know they would be addictive or that they weren’t for long term use is absurd. Especially considering what his field was.

I know of the stress he was under and nearly losing his wife is something I can only hope I never have to go through. It just doesn’t seem like he has been honest with himself and his fans.

Personal responsibility.

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– bonhomme-richard 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

being on them or getting off them? benzos arent hard to get off, just switch to the longest halflife benzo and taper

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– bonhomme-richard 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

i said theyre not hard to get off, followed by the explication of that statement with the method that accomplishes that statement. it is implied in my comment that the initial doses of, typically, diazepam be functionally equivalent to the alprazolam or clonazepam or whatever the patient is trying to eliminate, and that PAWS can be avoided with this very simple method. your response is essentially that i said just stop ingesting the GABAergic, when i clearly said something very different than that.

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– CptAurelius 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

His finger isn't on the pulse anymore and he's taken his foot off the pedal. But I still appreciate him.

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– Love_Over_Fear 3 points 4 years ago +7 / -4

Why do you even care about this guy? He got famous over his stand on gender roles (which is irrefutable) but in terms of actual psychology and spirituality - this guy is talking the same points as all zionists.

Also, the idea of idol worship is that many people look up to them (in this case, the audience for this guy are men who want to be real men). They purposefully instruct those "idols" to make a change in their life that leads their audience to the desired one-world scheme. Just look at him, is that what a real men should look and sound like? It's subliminal and as a psychologist, he is perfectly aware of that. Same case with Elon Musk when he cried during an interview - nobody knew who was Elon Musk before that... but put him on the Big Bang theory series and he is now a public figure.

Just as Michael Jackson going white. Just as Freddy Mercury being gay and dying from AIDS. Just as William Bruce Jenner going transgender. Like child stars promoting sexuality. Just check who is the audience of the "idol" and what are they promoting. Jordan Peterson is a controlled opposition to the feminist movement. His extremely boring presentations never mention the fact that you can simply discuss the topic with your female friend and just review what is expected in a relationship from both and how to harmonize it so both live in harmony. No, it's just "you've gotta be a man", "historically, bla-bla-bla", "I am being criticized on Twitter...". Just check him talking about judaism or complaining about twitter attacks...

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– bonhomme-richard 3 points 4 years ago +4 / -1

he got shown that the gender/sjw shit is just a part of the great psyop, and that either [they] know about him+daughter or they just photo-op'd him passed out with a naked kid, usual control shit

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– Love_Over_Fear 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

This guy gets it!

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– turtlebam 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

Based!

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– turtlebam 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

LOL You seriously think he was a real rebel to start with? :D Juden Peterstein is false opposition: https://www.bitchute.com/video/OSWWZ8ntpuEM/

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– HeyJesusBringMeABeer 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Jonathan Pageau taught him about consciousness during his benzo recovery:

https://youtu.be/2rAqVmZwqZM

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– rilyn 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I've been following JBP closely for years... He was going VERY hard, giving lectures all the time, podcasts all the time, writing all the time... He was balls to the wall work, work, work all the time. Very impressive and appreciated work, from my perspective, but a person is not well suited to a pace like that. From what I see, he overworked himself into that time out, no matter the details of russia/benzos/whatever. His subconscious took him out of an unhealthy pace, and it was really hard on him... I fear he isn't really getting it, yet... He seems confused by the trails he went through, rather than receiving the messages it was sending him. Life is more like surfing, than like an assembly line. Seasons for work, seasons for play, seasons for rest, seasons for chillin'.

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– turtlebam 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

You seriously think anyone can become that famous on Youtube if he was not 100% kosher?

In the world of resistance, false and controlled opposition and enemy agents posing as your own is a fact. Juden Peterstein is working for the jew, was never any real opposition to jewish control, only served as a controlled outlet.

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– Dennislearsysbastard 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I thought he died when the put him in a coma.

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– Eisenhorn -7 points 4 years ago +2 / -9

"crisis"

he is a fucking degenerate junkie

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– DavidColeIntrepid 2 points 4 years ago +3 / -1

Your momma, punk

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