posted ago by FortheGenerations ago by FortheGenerations +13 / -10
Flat earth gets downvoted like no other. This is literally the mother of all conspiracies. Mix of Deepstate troll farms and heavily indoctrinated Normies who can't see through the lies. That is all.
Yeah to an extent I would do it that way but literally the damn trolls they will shill up the thread every time if I do that. I'm sure they work on some kind of shift having to look through other websites to debunk flat earth elsewhere so it probably gets annoying for them.. Might give it a test run
Then you get fewer downvotes instead of multiple across several threads.
Instead of making grand proclamations like “space is fake”, why not lay out your logic for reaching that conclusion. Then others can follow your logic and either strengthen it with parallel/supporting logic or counter it with critiques.
I’ve looked into FE, I think most people here will have atleast been exposed to it. It has some important aspects, such as valuing the scientific method above “trusting the experts”, and making sure you comprehend the foundational beliefs of the system of logic you’re operating from. But it is not a coherent world view, or atleast in all my time seeing people post about it, I’ve not seen it presented such that anything said was indisputable. It raises excellent questions, but its answers are lacking.
I think its a donut.
Er...a torus. Went down the FE rabbit hole and ended up reading about toroidal fields. And how everything from the atom to humans to the planet has a toroidal field. Its all energy and magnetism. Fascinating!
Now this is an interesting avenue of research. I’m assuming you’ve heard/read the work of Nassim Haramein? He had a popular documentary called Black WHOLE, which basically just is a quick explanation of his math/fundamental physics theories (which have a lot to do with toroidal fields)
I haven't. This is all brand new to me and I am not a math/science person, so a birds eye view might make sense to me but I get lost in the science. I tend to react more by gut feeling. What resonates as truth to my subconscious. Sometimes I will read or hear something that I don't fully understand but I get tingles up my spine all the way to my crown chakra. Then I know I need to dig.
play with this official earth curvature chart.
does it match what you see? a slight tilt up...and buildings 3 miles away receding at an angle? that's the official story.
Oh wow in that case definitely watch this when you have a chance:
I will. Thanks!
Just watched. FANTASTIC!! Thanks!
A circle is made up of infinitely many straight lines
Anybody with even a slight amount of knowledge of geometry would disagree.
He's right that was a stupid thing to say..
I do agree. You get downvoted awfully fast.
FlatEarth is downvoted because the claims are not backed by evidence.
Claimant: "Antartica is an ice wall."
Debate: Okay, prove it.
Claimant: "Well, the governments made a pact and nobody is able to go to Antartica."
Debate: That does not prove your claim and is another claim requiring proof.
But people are in Antarctica right now. There are research stations there.
Should look into Captain James cook who claimed he sailed 60k miles "around" antarctica but could find no passage in. There's nothing but circumstantial evidence honestly. You cannot prove space.. You can prove the ocean is flat. Anybody can prove this with a simple telescope camera and a very small amount of knowledge about how far away your target is (basic map reading)..
As stated, you have just made more claims with no evidence.
You must not be very good at spotting a conspiracy.
Telling people the Earth is flat is a conspiracy to remove critical thinking skills and make people begin to doubt everything they have been told over the years until they are able to be manipulated by people with a perceived amount of power. This can be furthered by use of mob enforcement of an idea, instead of verbal debate.
Going further, claiming "words are violence" is a conspiracy to enforce the idea of physical violence as being an acceptable response when words conflict with a person's perception of reality that was manipulated by people trying to gain control over them or take their money.
No dude. It's getting shilled. I make plenty of arguments. Hell if you made a solid argument right here I'd agree if it was valid and I couldn't disprove it. State your argument, give your proof.
As I stated before:
Claimant: Antarctica is an ice wall.
Debate: Okay, prove it.
Claimant: They won't allow people to travel to the area and investigate.
Debate: Okay, prove the prior claim and the new claim.
You have no model which works with observable reality (star trails).
You have no evidence of the claim.
You are putting the burden of proof back on the one with doubt of the claim.
This is not a new game.
I am surprised you are not re-directing people to a website or video and trying to sell people a book or other product.
The resources are out there just hard to find. I can show you the door, you have to walk through it yourself.. Go look up information on Bitchute, odyssey. Type *subject flat, watch videos, listen for resources and articles they site, look it up for yourself. Do your own research.
YOU MADE THE CLAIM.
BACK YOUR CLAIM.
Telling people, "Research it", is not backing your claim.
What claim do you want me to back with evidence? Specifically?
Lol you cannot research something that isn’t real...that’s like telling dude to go research Bigfoot and bring me evidence
In the online realm you will see what you are intended to see, you will see the unbeknownst to you mainstream conspiracies, then you'll see the real conspiracies. It's going to be very hard to find the real conspiracies.
My friend, your posting efforts made me see the light. I made a short post regarding it here: conspiracies DOT win/p/12i4DNGyjG/forthegenerations-youve-convince/
FE or Globe Earth is Hegelian Dialectic to distract people from the idea that the Earth is Hollow and Growing. Pick a side, but don't fly too close to the flame. TPTB divide and conquer. Truth is always stranger than fiction.
It's definitely flat as in level at the ocean
It's not flat, what you are seeing is a Earth larger than what they say. Look into the two theories and run the math. That is why we can see ships zoomed in which shouldn't be visible because of the "curvature". I know only a handful of theories that get ignored out right, and Hollow/Growing Earth are one of them. For example, another one would be the Venetian/Black Nobility. Rothschilds on the front page of /r/con, but, if you talk about House of Aldobrandini, an ancientHouse they had to wait a few hundred years to marry into... You get crickets.
Anywhoo, happy rabbit hole falling....
Well poisoning level flat earth. Laser pointer tests 22 miles no curve.
Earth is bigger. Look into the theories and check the math. Or, continue believing the Earth is flat. Either way, I really could not give one fuck. Cheers.
Hey Putin. Long time no see! Glad you didn’t fall for the flat earth psyop.
Lets say it were even US nautical miles. It gives about 40 km. Let's assume you are neither lying nor trolling (but I suspect you are rather troll than so big idiot): the difference would be about 36 cm (~14,18 inch !)
As I am engineer with a degree I know something about lasers. You probably wouldn't afford to buy high coherence laser which would be coherent enough on the distance of 40 km to measure such thing ! And you didn't bought it - you just said "laser pointer" ! Laser pointers are at best coherent over 100m, maybe few hundred meters at mximum - so much less than on mile ! Not to mention keeping laser pointer in hand (fuck - even if it would be laser level which are useful in building buildings not scientific measurements) wouldn't allow to even get ideal horizontal position to measure anything. More than 1 km and that "laser beam" would be like flash-light (still maybe dangerous) rather,so forget exact results. Your "measurement" was completely shitty.
And my answer is rather not for you,because you are stubborn idiot or troll.
You build a a holder for the laser and at the destination use a reflective plate so you can see.
Because water spreads to its barriers in any container? Seriously, have you flown around the world? You can go straight west to east without diverting and circumnavigate the globe. Some of us have done it.
You obviously know nothing about the flat earth model if that is your argument. You should really look into it. https://www.bitchute.com/video/8FJgiBylG5Gd/
Lol... okay. It's not convincing.
What purpose does it serve to convince humanity that the world is a globe rather than flat?
I'm out. Click my profile and view my posts history you'll find all kinds of information.
Leave this website forever, then.
It's a theological argument held deeply in the Muslim faith, which explains how it's spreading so much in the last few decades, and also why they defend it with such fervor. When you attack claims of flat earth, you're attacking the Quran. Other things they believe is that the sky is a literal blanket covering the earth. Something about a firmament. I find it amusing that the plurality of the western flat earth believers don't even know where the conspiracy originates.
Firmament is also in the Bible, but I've always heard it taught as the atmosphere.
Good to know where theories originate, thanks fren! Learned something new and actually believable.
It's quite easy. "Circumnavigation" just travel east to west, north is in the center. Magnetic north..not hard at all..
What does that have to do with anything? I live 20 minutes from the sea.
What do you think about the pole shift?
I don't think much about it honestly. It's not testable. Some theory that could just be pseudoscience.
What do you mean its not testable? You get a couple magnets and walk around til you find the pole. Easy peasy freezy squeezy.
Honestly thought it was in reference to the pole reversal theory which has been peddled by mainstream science as being a possible cause for blackouts like an emp
Yeah, I don't see pole reversal as ever happening in the existence of humanity, if ever. A likely excuse for government tyranny tho, as if they need one
I don't because I don't think about it. Its inconsequential to me bro. Shrug.
Duck 'pole shifting debunked' or some such if you want an alternate perspective.
Possibly...I just find it more interesting if you don't look at the science.
By that I mean the pole moving from Canada to Russia seems kinda weird, given the socio-political climate.
I haven't heard of it moving a few hundred miles from Canada to Russia. Thought you were talking about the poles reversing.
Yeah, I don't know about the whole reversal thing. But I have said that if we are in an "inverted" world, think about what that could mean in terms of a pole flip.
The "40 degree" mark where we'll supposedly see much faster acceleration is two years away.
Should be interesting times regardless!
A little fucking more than an 8th grade education would tell you people the earth isn’t flat...
If you want to watch something watch the goes east and west weather satellites
Stop being retarted...
Fly to fucking Japan or Australia
Or ask a fucking pilot
Stop watching retards that make YouTube videos wow
You mean 8th grade indoctrination right? Lmao
Because flat earth is a psyop to make people look retarded. That stupid theory literally hasnt existed for millennia. I have family who have worked in the aerospace industry, and the earth is indeed 3 dimensional and roughly spherical (Though not completely, due to how gravity works, and the fact the thing is bumpy). The only flat earth conspiracy is the perpetration of a long dead and discredited theory in modern times. For centuries humans have understood that the earth is round, and yet in the last hundred years this theory has popped up out of nowhere, despite being obsolete for centuries. It was know around Jesus' time the earth was round. Be careful your mind isnt so open the insides fall out.
Piss off, faggot. Go well poison on Reddit.
You are not a true Christian!
1.Because you flat-earthers are stupid.Everyone sees that.
2.Because flat earth theory is conspiracy to ridicule theories about REAL AND EXISTING conspiracies - and mostly those biggest one of this century - about faking photos from landing on the moon. They landed there.But meet UFO,so everything was classified, and fake photos were made in the studio.
I have asked you to answer numerous questions you just ignore so your statements are nil. You selectively comment on my posts, but refuse to answer the hard questions.
Whatever. Anybody can read you piece of shit. If somebody not knows basics of basic physics and not want to learn it,if somebody is stupid enough - I piss on that person. Many of your bullshit could be easily checked doing very easy experiments.
Time is most worthy thing we have in life,I wouldn't spare a second more on person who is idiot stubborn like donkey.
I answer all of your questions but you fail to answer many of mine. As I've said the math makes sense but it is based off of assumptions you cannot prove.
I mentioned many provable things, there are physics manual with all experiments to do, so if any poor idiot would believe you anyway - I don't give a fuck. Over and out.
Lmao still leaving my questions unanswered. You selectively answer my questions. No you cannot prove the earth is a globe, it is a fallacy to claim that you can. You can however prove it is not round with a telescope camera and the ocean. Reality debunks all globe theories. We have the technology now to test this for $1000 you can go get a p1000 and drive to the ocean or a frozen lake and prove yourself.
Those with ocean prove rather you are wrong. Indeed when boat is far away we see first sail not whole boat. But whatever. Just said over and out,I am wasting too much time for you when you are obvious troll or idiot.
You can go through photos yourself (random photos of people taking scenic pictures) and see discrepancies that makes no sense on a globe model. I live very close to a bay area with many landmarks to see this clearly with just a set of binoculars. I can even see beach line 6 miles away from 6 feet with my own eyes. . Multiple landmarks are not all going to be refracted selectively and the horizon continues.
Go test with your eyes and binoculars or telescope you will see the truth.
Look, more copypasta from the fake Christian!
Skimming over can't answer all questions driving. Ice wall keeps it all in the water. How can an atmosphere exist besides a vacuum of space without a solid barrier, it can't. Satellite's question there is so much proof of the impossibility of this I suggest you watch one of my previous posts of international flat earth conference about the impossibility of light from the sun and moon he discusses the ISS, go learn. NASA, always over budget and behind schedule despite any cuts. 300+ billion per year hardly a cut. Coriolis effect not taken into account for military sniping or artillery despite the claims, and toilets flow both ways despite the claims go test this yourself in your sink it is a farce. Old claims it were a sphere from back in the day were not necessarily of bad faith, just theories, there were also sun worshippers way back in the day that could of wanted to create a mathematical model to support the sun as being the center. Other "Planets" are not like earth they are self illuminating luminaries with no Land there, and there is no proof they are actually spheres either. They do not receive sunlight from our sun, it is impossible based on how bright they appear, also in that video linked. I'll try to get back to your other questions
My sense of morality begrudgingly tells you not to endanger yourself. I don’t expect a quick answer; I just want a real one.
Covered that; how’d they prevent all water from disappearing before they formed?
Or you could look up at sunset.
Maybe they should stop cutting the budget and changing the plan every four years, then.
It is, though.
Did; flowed one way.
And were proven true.
Their physical motion proves it.
Which explains why they have phases… right?
Learn literally anything about the inverse square law.
Again, don’t rush.
Wow, you've given up, but follow NASA budgeting now?
That's really weird!
You should actually learn the inverse square law and you'll see what I'm saying about the impossibility of the brightness of the self luminous planets that don't receive sunlight. Go learn and apply it correctly. Will get back to you though on the rest of your points just wanted to state that real quick.
It doesn’t work when your “sun” is only a couple miles across. It does when it’s ~950,000 miles across, though.
Guess it works for the light that the planets emit right? Right? Does it? Should try it. Guess it works for the light reflecting off of the moon right? Right? Does it? Should try it.
Yep. Try again.
Look, gone to flat earth because you keep getting called a Jew.
Go ahead, call me a goyim like Christians do!
Lmao it doesn't