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posted 1 year ago by FortheGenerations 1 year ago by FortheGenerations +13 / -10

Flat earth gets downvoted like no other. This is literally the mother of all conspiracies. Mix of Deepstate troll farms and heavily indoctrinated Normies who can't see through the lies. That is all.

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– FortheGenerations [S] 1 point 1 year ago +4 / -3

Yeah to an extent I would do it that way but literally the damn trolls they will shill up the thread every time if I do that. I'm sure they work on some kind of shift having to look through other websites to debunk flat earth elsewhere so it probably gets annoying for them.. Might give it a test run

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– Mark4-39 0 points 1 year ago +1 / -1

Then you get fewer downvotes instead of multiple across several threads.

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– Graphenium -4 points 1 year ago +2 / -6

Instead of making grand proclamations like “space is fake”, why not lay out your logic for reaching that conclusion. Then others can follow your logic and either strengthen it with parallel/supporting logic or counter it with critiques.

I’ve looked into FE, I think most people here will have atleast been exposed to it. It has some important aspects, such as valuing the scientific method above “trusting the experts”, and making sure you comprehend the foundational beliefs of the system of logic you’re operating from. But it is not a coherent world view, or atleast in all my time seeing people post about it, I’ve not seen it presented such that anything said was indisputable. It raises excellent questions, but its answers are lacking.

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– HighFrequency 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I think its a donut.

Er...a torus. Went down the FE rabbit hole and ended up reading about toroidal fields. And how everything from the atom to humans to the planet has a toroidal field. Its all energy and magnetism. Fascinating!

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– Graphenium -4 points 1 year ago +1 / -5

Now this is an interesting avenue of research. I’m assuming you’ve heard/read the work of Nassim Haramein? He had a popular documentary called Black WHOLE, which basically just is a quick explanation of his math/fundamental physics theories (which have a lot to do with toroidal fields)

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– HighFrequency 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I haven't. This is all brand new to me and I am not a math/science person, so a birds eye view might make sense to me but I get lost in the science. I tend to react more by gut feeling. What resonates as truth to my subconscious. Sometimes I will read or hear something that I don't fully understand but I get tingles up my spine all the way to my crown chakra. Then I know I need to dig.

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– alltheleavesarebrown 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

play with this official earth curvature chart.

does it match what you see? a slight tilt up...and buildings 3 miles away receding at an angle? that's the official story.

https://dizzib.github.io/earth/curve-calc/?d0=20&h0=5.5&unit=imperial

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– Graphenium -4 points 1 year ago +1 / -5

Oh wow in that case definitely watch this when you have a chance:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aB3Z0SD_Xiw

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– HighFrequency 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I will. Thanks!

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– HighFrequency 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Just watched. FANTASTIC!! Thanks!

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– Graphenium -5 points 1 year ago +1 / -6

A circle is made up of infinitely many straight lines

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– Graphenium -5 points 1 year ago +1 / -6

Anybody with even a slight amount of knowledge of geometry would disagree.

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– FortheGenerations [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

He's right that was a stupid thing to say..

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– Xaviermgk 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

I do agree. You get downvoted awfully fast.

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– MrEvangelon1 3 points 1 year ago +5 / -2

FlatEarth is downvoted because the claims are not backed by evidence.

For example:

Claimant: "Antartica is an ice wall."

Debate: Okay, prove it.

Claimant: "Well, the governments made a pact and nobody is able to go to Antartica."

Debate: That does not prove your claim and is another claim requiring proof.

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– TakenusernameA 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

But people are in Antarctica right now. There are research stations there.

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– FortheGenerations [S] 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

Should look into Captain James cook who claimed he sailed 60k miles "around" antarctica but could find no passage in. There's nothing but circumstantial evidence honestly. You cannot prove space.. You can prove the ocean is flat. Anybody can prove this with a simple telescope camera and a very small amount of knowledge about how far away your target is (basic map reading)..

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– MrEvangelon1 3 points 1 year ago +4 / -1

As stated, you have just made more claims with no evidence.

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– FortheGenerations [S] 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

You must not be very good at spotting a conspiracy.

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– MrEvangelon1 1 point 1 year ago +3 / -2

As in:

Telling people the Earth is flat is a conspiracy to remove critical thinking skills and make people begin to doubt everything they have been told over the years until they are able to be manipulated by people with a perceived amount of power. This can be furthered by use of mob enforcement of an idea, instead of verbal debate.

Going further, claiming "words are violence" is a conspiracy to enforce the idea of physical violence as being an acceptable response when words conflict with a person's perception of reality that was manipulated by people trying to gain control over them or take their money.

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– FortheGenerations [S] 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

No dude. It's getting shilled. I make plenty of arguments. Hell if you made a solid argument right here I'd agree if it was valid and I couldn't disprove it. State your argument, give your proof.

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– MrEvangelon1 2 points 1 year ago +4 / -2

As I stated before:

Claimant: Antarctica is an ice wall.

Debate: Okay, prove it.

Claimant: They won't allow people to travel to the area and investigate.

Debate: Okay, prove the prior claim and the new claim.

You have no model which works with observable reality (star trails).

You have no evidence of the claim.

You are putting the burden of proof back on the one with doubt of the claim.

This is not a new game.

I am surprised you are not re-directing people to a website or video and trying to sell people a book or other product.

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– FortheGenerations [S] 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

The resources are out there just hard to find. I can show you the door, you have to walk through it yourself.. Go look up information on Bitchute, odyssey. Type *subject flat, watch videos, listen for resources and articles they site, look it up for yourself. Do your own research.

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– MrEvangelon1 1 point 1 year ago +3 / -2

YOU MADE THE CLAIM.

BACK YOUR CLAIM.

Telling people, "Research it", is not backing your claim.

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– FortheGenerations [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

What claim do you want me to back with evidence? Specifically?

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– Blinduser 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

Lol you cannot research something that isn’t real...that’s like telling dude to go research Bigfoot and bring me evidence

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– FortheGenerations [S] 2 points 1 year ago +3 / -1

In the online realm you will see what you are intended to see, you will see the unbeknownst to you mainstream conspiracies, then you'll see the real conspiracies. It's going to be very hard to find the real conspiracies.

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– wtfffitsactuallyflat 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

My friend, your posting efforts made me see the light. I made a short post regarding it here: conspiracies DOT win/p/12i4DNGyjG/forthegenerations-youve-convince/

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– PutinLovesCats 2 points 1 year ago +4 / -2

FE or Globe Earth is Hegelian Dialectic to distract people from the idea that the Earth is Hollow and Growing. Pick a side, but don't fly too close to the flame. TPTB divide and conquer. Truth is always stranger than fiction.

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– FortheGenerations [S] 1 point 1 year ago +3 / -2

It's definitely flat as in level at the ocean

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– PutinLovesCats 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

It's not flat, what you are seeing is a Earth larger than what they say. Look into the two theories and run the math. That is why we can see ships zoomed in which shouldn't be visible because of the "curvature". I know only a handful of theories that get ignored out right, and Hollow/Growing Earth are one of them. For example, another one would be the Venetian/Black Nobility. Rothschilds on the front page of /r/con, but, if you talk about House of Aldobrandini, an ancientHouse they had to wait a few hundred years to marry into... You get crickets.

Anywhoo, happy rabbit hole falling....

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– FortheGenerations [S] 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

Well poisoning level flat earth. Laser pointer tests 22 miles no curve.

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– PutinLovesCats 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

Earth is bigger. Look into the theories and check the math. Or, continue believing the Earth is flat. Either way, I really could not give one fuck. Cheers.

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– LightBringerFlex 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Hey Putin. Long time no see! Glad you didn’t fall for the flat earth psyop.

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– cee8hooz -1 points 1 year ago +2 / -3

Lets say it were even US nautical miles. It gives about 40 km. Let's assume you are neither lying nor trolling (but I suspect you are rather troll than so big idiot): the difference would be about 36 cm (~14,18 inch !)

As I am engineer with a degree I know something about lasers. You probably wouldn't afford to buy high coherence laser which would be coherent enough on the distance of 40 km to measure such thing ! And you didn't bought it - you just said "laser pointer" ! Laser pointers are at best coherent over 100m, maybe few hundred meters at mximum - so much less than on mile ! Not to mention keeping laser pointer in hand (fuck - even if it would be laser level which are useful in building buildings not scientific measurements) wouldn't allow to even get ideal horizontal position to measure anything. More than 1 km and that "laser beam" would be like flash-light (still maybe dangerous) rather,so forget exact results. Your "measurement" was completely shitty.

And my answer is rather not for you,because you are stubborn idiot or troll.

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– FortheGenerations [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

You build a a holder for the laser and at the destination use a reflective plate so you can see.

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– Mark4-39 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

Because water spreads to its barriers in any container? Seriously, have you flown around the world? You can go straight west to east without diverting and circumnavigate the globe. Some of us have done it.

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– FortheGenerations [S] 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

You obviously know nothing about the flat earth model if that is your argument. You should really look into it. https://www.bitchute.com/video/8FJgiBylG5Gd/

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– Mark4-39 2 points 1 year ago +4 / -2

Lol... okay. It's not convincing.

What purpose does it serve to convince humanity that the world is a globe rather than flat?

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– FortheGenerations [S] 1 point 1 year ago +3 / -2

I'm out. Click my profile and view my posts history you'll find all kinds of information.

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– TallestSkil -3 points 1 year ago +3 / -6

Leave this website forever, then.

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– FortheGenerations [S] 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

No

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– fingis_dartan 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

It's a theological argument held deeply in the Muslim faith, which explains how it's spreading so much in the last few decades, and also why they defend it with such fervor. When you attack claims of flat earth, you're attacking the Quran. Other things they believe is that the sky is a literal blanket covering the earth. Something about a firmament. I find it amusing that the plurality of the western flat earth believers don't even know where the conspiracy originates.

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– Mark4-39 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Firmament is also in the Bible, but I've always heard it taught as the atmosphere.

Good to know where theories originate, thanks fren! Learned something new and actually believable.

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– FortheGenerations [S] 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

It's quite easy. "Circumnavigation" just travel east to west, north is in the center. Magnetic north..not hard at all..

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– FortheGenerations [S] 1 point 1 year ago +3 / -2

What does that have to do with anything? I live 20 minutes from the sea.

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– Xaviermgk 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

What do you think about the pole shift?

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– FortheGenerations [S] -1 points 1 year ago +2 / -3

I don't think much about it honestly. It's not testable. Some theory that could just be pseudoscience.

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– Mark4-39 3 points 1 year ago +4 / -1

What do you mean its not testable? You get a couple magnets and walk around til you find the pole. Easy peasy freezy squeezy.

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– FortheGenerations [S] 0 points 1 year ago +2 / -2

Honestly thought it was in reference to the pole reversal theory which has been peddled by mainstream science as being a possible cause for blackouts like an emp

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– Mark4-39 2 points 1 year ago +3 / -1

Yeah, I don't see pole reversal as ever happening in the existence of humanity, if ever. A likely excuse for government tyranny tho, as if they need one

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– Mark4-39 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I don't because I don't think about it. Its inconsequential to me bro. Shrug.

Duck 'pole shifting debunked' or some such if you want an alternate perspective.

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– Xaviermgk 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

Possibly...I just find it more interesting if you don't look at the science.

By that I mean the pole moving from Canada to Russia seems kinda weird, given the socio-political climate.

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– FortheGenerations [S] 0 points 1 year ago +1 / -1

I haven't heard of it moving a few hundred miles from Canada to Russia. Thought you were talking about the poles reversing.

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– Xaviermgk 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

Yeah, I don't know about the whole reversal thing. But I have said that if we are in an "inverted" world, think about what that could mean in terms of a pole flip.

The "40 degree" mark where we'll supposedly see much faster acceleration is two years away.

Should be interesting times regardless!

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– Blinduser 0 points 1 year ago +2 / -2

A little fucking more than an 8th grade education would tell you people the earth isn’t flat...

If you want to watch something watch the goes east and west weather satellites

Stop being retarted...

Fly to fucking Japan or Australia

Or ask a fucking pilot

Stop watching retards that make YouTube videos wow

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– FortheGenerations [S] 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

You mean 8th grade indoctrination right? Lmao

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– TakenusernameA -1 points 1 year ago +1 / -2

Because flat earth is a psyop to make people look retarded. That stupid theory literally hasnt existed for millennia. I have family who have worked in the aerospace industry, and the earth is indeed 3 dimensional and roughly spherical (Though not completely, due to how gravity works, and the fact the thing is bumpy). The only flat earth conspiracy is the perpetration of a long dead and discredited theory in modern times. For centuries humans have understood that the earth is round, and yet in the last hundred years this theory has popped up out of nowhere, despite being obsolete for centuries. It was know around Jesus' time the earth was round. Be careful your mind isnt so open the insides fall out.

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– TallestSkil -3 points 1 year ago +3 / -6

OY VEY MY JEWISH HOAX GOT DOWNVOTED AND HUMILIATED MEEEEEEEE

IT’S REAL BECAUSE EVERYONE KNOWS IT ISN’T

Piss off, faggot. Go well poison on Reddit.

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– Xaviermgk 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

You are not a true Christian!

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– cee8hooz -3 points 1 year ago +1 / -4

u/FortheGenerations:

1.Because you flat-earthers are stupid.Everyone sees that.

2.Because flat earth theory is conspiracy to ridicule theories about REAL AND EXISTING conspiracies - and mostly those biggest one of this century - about faking photos from landing on the moon. They landed there.But meet UFO,so everything was classified, and fake photos were made in the studio.

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– FortheGenerations [S] 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

I have asked you to answer numerous questions you just ignore so your statements are nil. You selectively comment on my posts, but refuse to answer the hard questions.

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– cee8hooz -1 points 1 year ago +2 / -3

Whatever. Anybody can read you piece of shit. If somebody not knows basics of basic physics and not want to learn it,if somebody is stupid enough - I piss on that person. Many of your bullshit could be easily checked doing very easy experiments.

Time is most worthy thing we have in life,I wouldn't spare a second more on person who is idiot stubborn like donkey.

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– FortheGenerations [S] 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

I answer all of your questions but you fail to answer many of mine. As I've said the math makes sense but it is based off of assumptions you cannot prove.

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– cee8hooz -2 points 1 year ago +1 / -3

I mentioned many provable things, there are physics manual with all experiments to do, so if any poor idiot would believe you anyway - I don't give a fuck. Over and out.

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– FortheGenerations [S] 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

Lmao still leaving my questions unanswered. You selectively answer my questions. No you cannot prove the earth is a globe, it is a fallacy to claim that you can. You can however prove it is not round with a telescope camera and the ocean. Reality debunks all globe theories. We have the technology now to test this for $1000 you can go get a p1000 and drive to the ocean or a frozen lake and prove yourself.

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– cee8hooz 0 points 1 year ago +2 / -2

Those with ocean prove rather you are wrong. Indeed when boat is far away we see first sail not whole boat. But whatever. Just said over and out,I am wasting too much time for you when you are obvious troll or idiot.

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– FortheGenerations [S] 0 points 1 year ago +1 / -1

You can go through photos yourself (random photos of people taking scenic pictures) and see discrepancies that makes no sense on a globe model. I live very close to a bay area with many landmarks to see this clearly with just a set of binoculars. I can even see beach line 6 miles away from 6 feet with my own eyes. . Multiple landmarks are not all going to be refracted selectively and the horizon continues.

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– FortheGenerations [S] 0 points 1 year ago +1 / -1

Go test with your eyes and binoculars or telescope you will see the truth.

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  • Why can everyone south of the equator see the exact same stars rotating in the same direction around the same fixed central point in the sky due south of them if they’re supposedly all looking in different directions?
  • Why are the distances between degrees of latitude uniform and don’t grow exponentially away from the equator?
  • Why does everyone on Earth get the same result for the Eratosthenes experiment, when people nearer the equator should get a much smaller circumference for the Earth than those nearer the poles?
  • Come to think of it, was Eratosthenes part of the “round Earth” conspiracy?
  • Surviving records show that the ancient Egyptians and Mesopotamians based their astronomical forecasts on calculations assuming the Earth is a globe. Did this conspiracy begin at the dawn of civilization, or are all ancient artifacts nothing but Victorian forgeries? If so, why has this never been detected by modern carbon-dating techniques?
  • Why do arc lengths of given angles of longitude decrease rather than increase south of the equator?
  • Why does the sun not rise in the northeast and set in the northwest, year round, for everyone on Earth?
  • Why DOES the sun set, when the law of perspective states that the angular size of the sun’s altitude, like everything else, can’t become negative?
  • Why does the sun’s angular size not change throughout the day or year, since it is “moving toward and away from us” and is “closer than we’re told”?
  • Seriously, did you fall asleep during geometry class, or are you just completely demented?
  • If you believe in zeteticism, why do you keep relying on magical and unprovable solutions, which can’t be shown to exist with your own eyes and clearly don’t exist at all? Apparently, zeteticism is just code for “make any old bullshit up and pretend it’s true.”
  • If all photographs of a round Earth are a hoax, why not simply create photographs of a flat Earth?
  • A property of mass is that it has gravitational force regardless of size. If the Earth did not have a gravitational field, wouldn’t that imply that the Earth doesn’t physically exist?
  • Where is the Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station located if the south “pole” is the whole circumference of the Earth?
  • Wouldn’t creating such elaborate fakes and conspiracies cost an equal–if not greater–amount of money than the science they are supposedly covering up?
  • The idea of the Earth as a sphere has existed at least since the time of the ancient Greeks, long before NASA. What were their financial motives?
  • What financial motives could NASA have, since their budget is still cut every year?
  • How could the sun be a spotlight if it is a sphere? On the flat Earth, the light projection would have to be a semicircle.
  • Why does the North Star goes to the horizon?
  • Why do constellations appear to be different in the Southern and Northern hemispheres?
  • Why is the Coriolis effect stronger near both poles, instead of stronger in the north and weaker in the south?
  • If the circumferential south pole is preventing the oceans from pouring over the edge of the flat Earth, why didn’t the oceans disappear during the incredible amount of time it would have taken for that ice to form?
  • If the oceans would–if they could–pour off the edge of the flat Earth, where, then, would they go? Does this mean that whatever keeps the oceans on the surface of the flat Earth only operates in a downward direction on the uppermost surface and is absent on the underneath?
  • Why are satellites visible from Earth with a pair of binoculars and even the naked eye?
  • How could a flat body maintain an atmosphere?
  • Why are other celestial bodies spheres but the Earth is not? How, and why, was the Earth created differently?
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– Xaviermgk 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Look, more copypasta from the fake Christian!

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– FortheGenerations [S] 0 points 1 year ago +1 / -1

Skimming over can't answer all questions driving. Ice wall keeps it all in the water. How can an atmosphere exist besides a vacuum of space without a solid barrier, it can't. Satellite's question there is so much proof of the impossibility of this I suggest you watch one of my previous posts of international flat earth conference about the impossibility of light from the sun and moon he discusses the ISS, go learn. NASA, always over budget and behind schedule despite any cuts. 300+ billion per year hardly a cut. Coriolis effect not taken into account for military sniping or artillery despite the claims, and toilets flow both ways despite the claims go test this yourself in your sink it is a farce. Old claims it were a sphere from back in the day were not necessarily of bad faith, just theories, there were also sun worshippers way back in the day that could of wanted to create a mathematical model to support the sun as being the center. Other "Planets" are not like earth they are self illuminating luminaries with no Land there, and there is no proof they are actually spheres either. They do not receive sunlight from our sun, it is impossible based on how bright they appear, also in that video linked. I'll try to get back to your other questions

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– TallestSkil -5 points 1 year ago +2 / -7

Skimming over can't answer all questions driving.

My sense of morality begrudgingly tells you not to endanger yourself. I don’t expect a quick answer; I just want a real one.

Ice wall keeps it all in the water.

Covered that; how’d they prevent all water from disappearing before they formed?

How can an atmosphere exist besides a vacuum of space without a solid barrier

Gravity.

Satellite's question there is so much proof of the impossibility of this

Or you could look up at sunset.

go learn

Just answer.

NASA, always over budget and behind schedule despite any cuts.

Maybe they should stop cutting the budget and changing the plan every four years, then.

Coriolis effect not taken into account for military sniping or artillery despite the claims

It is, though.

and toilets flow both ways despite the claims go test this yourself in your sink

Did; flowed one way.

Old claims it were a sphere from back in the day were not necessarily of bad faith, just theories

And were proven true.

Other "Planets" are not like earth they are self illuminating luminaries

Why.

and there is no proof they are actually spheres either.

Their physical motion proves it.

They do not receive sunlight from our sun

Which explains why they have phases… right?

it is impossible based on how bright they appear

Learn literally anything about the inverse square law.

I'll try to get back to your other questions

Again, don’t rush.

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– Xaviermgk 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Maybe they should stop cutting the budget and changing the plan every four years

Wow, you've given up, but follow NASA budgeting now?

That's really weird!

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– FortheGenerations [S] 0 points 1 year ago +1 / -1

You should actually learn the inverse square law and you'll see what I'm saying about the impossibility of the brightness of the self luminous planets that don't receive sunlight. Go learn and apply it correctly. Will get back to you though on the rest of your points just wanted to state that real quick.

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– TallestSkil -4 points 1 year ago +1 / -5

Go learn and apply it correctly.

It doesn’t work when your “sun” is only a couple miles across. It does when it’s ~950,000 miles across, though.

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– FortheGenerations [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Guess it works for the light that the planets emit right? Right? Does it? Should try it. Guess it works for the light reflecting off of the moon right? Right? Does it? Should try it.

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– TallestSkil -6 points 1 year ago +1 / -7

Yep. Try again.

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– Xaviermgk 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Look, gone to flat earth because you keep getting called a Jew.

Go ahead, call me a goyim like Christians do!

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– FortheGenerations [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Lmao it doesn't

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