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factdigger 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yes, at that distance, with the caliber/rifle used, the bullet arrives c. 0.2 secs before the sound (at c. Trump's location).

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factdigger 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yeah. Everybody just stabbing in the dark.

No proof, but a lot of speculation.

Security failed - that's a given.

Was it 100% fuck up or 100% planned or something in between.

That remains to be determined (and who's responsible).

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factdigger 4 points ago +5 / -1

Yes.

It's quite interesting that in many of the MSM sources (not all, of course) and in the alt-conspiracy sources AND of course, the Trump fanatic base and Q-tard crowd the narrative seems to be converge to the same direction:

  1. it was a setup, at the very least it was allowed to happen (i.e. not mere incompetence, although that was surely involved and/or utilized as well)

  2. Heads need to roll

Now, the narrative starts to diverge, when we talk about WHO did it and why:

  1. Trump's team did it to ensure he gets no opposition before Republican convention and he becomes the saviour of the party and will just sweep the elections

  2. Jews did it to ensure their favourite puppet gets re-elected. They had backing from Wall St (jews again), because they also need/want Trump or stock market will crash

  3. The Trump opposition groupS (plural) orchestrated this: the shadow government behind puppet Biden, the MICG who wants to keep Ukraine grift going, The globohomo sub-groups who want to ram through their digital-ghetto-control future (and Trump is in the way), the evil Democrat-satanists, etc.

I still reserve judgment personally. Don't have enough data and the narrative peddlers are out in full force, trying to control the narrative.

Also, it is good to remind in OPs (whether opportunistic Ops AFTER the event or in full Ops from the get-go), the most important thing is always what comes after the event, what is the reaction of the masses/media - it is not the event per se.

And that is yet to be determined fully. Of course, DJT team clearly benefited from this (already shows in polls & prediction markets), and the Democrat group is running around in confusion.

Just keep your eye on the ball, see what emerges, SAVE EVERYTHING locally and try to avoid idiots who think they have a 100% accurate script with exactly known conspiracy perpetrators (just by reading anon 4chan posts) ready at this stage, because NOBODY has all the data yet. They are just retards and blowing smoke up your butt.

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factdigger 2 points ago +3 / -1

Really bad analysis. USS Sniper uses suppressor, Assassins did not. Doesn't calculate the sound travel vs the visual recoil. Mistakes one instinctive pull of the nipers head out of the scope for a shot, etc.

Really, just look at videos from people who are actual snipers and who know how to analyze audio tracks and calculate bullet travel distances and sound delays and calculate the difference.

This guy in the video clearly does not.

There are plenty of better forensic videos all over the X.

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factdigger 2 points ago +3 / -1

Yeah, suddenly all the APPROVED and NON-CENSORED names of the "opposition" (or otherwise) are turning to and talking about God and DJT being the prophet:

  • Russell Brand
  • Candance Owen
  • Jake Paul
  • Tulsi Gabbard
  • etc

Either everybody came to Jesus suddenly or a big wool is being pulled over your eyes.

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factdigger 6 points ago +10 / -4

100%.

Even if he gets shot at (fake or real) - it doesn't matter that he's a corrupt, Mafia money laundering, corrupt insider.

WHo is for:

  • Make Israel Great Again
  • NOT releasing Epstein files
  • Not putting Hillary to jail
  • Lying whatever it takes to get elected
  • Clearly cash poor rich, with a soft spot for beautiful young ladies = easy blackmail target

Just another scumbag, just different crime family from some of the others.

What appears to be so far, is:

  1. Some crime factions want him as Prez (Wall St, J00s, christian power groups), while others want him dead (some MICG groups, maybe NATO affiliated units, some globohomo groups

  2. He is being used clearly as a tool for strategy of tension, to rile up people against each other, dems vs repubs, conservatives vs libs, white vs black, etc so that the 99% don't recognize that they are being screwed over by the 0.1% who rule the world and fight amongst themselves.

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factdigger 3 points ago +4 / -1

is no salvaging any of the sides to collaborate, divide or conquer. The only way forward is to unplug every one equally and let nature force like-minded humans to congregate

agreed.

People are people. 95% rarely rise above the level of conditioned animals.

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factdigger 4 points ago +6 / -2

Based on audio analysis of the video recordings : unlikely.

https://www.brighteon.com/000158ff-6d4c-4b65-bb04-a4cbd137b47b

Somebody shot at the podium, several times, from a distance of c. 138-140 meters (roughly, depending on exact caliber/bullet used), at least one person confirmed dead, another injured.

Looks like legit so far.

But don't lock in your answer.... let the data lead you where it takes.

But confirm everything, don't start believing in narratives at this stage, when all the data is not yet in.

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factdigger 4 points ago +6 / -2

“When the facts change, I change my mind - what do you do, sir?”

It's called the scientific method.

Maybe you should learn it one day.

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factdigger 3 points ago +4 / -1

Can you blame people?

The reality has been a constant stream of lies upon lies and they keep lying even after they get caught and are proven liars.

So the reflex (a conditioned one) is to believe it is a lie by default, even when it is just the world in normal day to day chaos.

Or the third excluded middle: perhaps a combination of both.

Chaos, interspersed by opportunistic lies and deception.

And we will never know why with 100% certainty.

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factdigger 0 points ago +1 / -1

The guy posting as Matthew Crooks was not the claimed shooter (obviously), may have the same name or just the looks. Was shitposting on the net.

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factdigger 3 points ago +4 / -1

Yeah, (at least) two guys with name Thomas Crooks in PA - got mixed up in threads elsewhere:

https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1720959634034144.jpg

  1. The Deranged guy @thomasmatthewcrooks1 (tiktok):

https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1720951307621361.webm https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1720962979299579.png

  1. The "other" Thomas Crooks (or who plays as such) who shit-posted it not being him, and got an online barrage (@jewsgazing):

https://x.com/KKMediaTingz/status/1812352355482157379

no. 2 M.C. reported as being at an Antifa demo in Portland:

https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1720963715642121.png

Difference between 1. and 2:

https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1720963132497740.png

EDIT

could be 3 matthew crooks.

  1. Third guy (again, not the shooter, who is no.1), but is being featured as the shooter in some threads elsewhere, just based on his name:

https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1720962446520449.jpg

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factdigger 4 points ago +4 / -0

let's try to collate all this , once we get a megathread from the mods

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factdigger 4 points ago +4 / -0

More potential partial match "Maxwell Yearick":

https://x.com/Stevo8884/status/1812366173528633770

Mirror: https://archive.is/8veia

Save everything.

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factdigger 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yup.

I reserve judgment, but gathering stuff.

Remember, just like with JFK shooting, Reagan shooting, 911, etc the best info was available for a few hours to days after the event.

Then slowly, everything was sanitized and the official narrative coalesced and solidified.

This is how ops are done.

Whoever the attacker, whatever the motive, ALL the players are now trying to get ahead of the story AND to solidify their POV and explanation as The Official Truth (TM).

The battle over narrative is always fiercest during the first few hours to days.

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factdigger 5 points ago +5 / -0

Save stuff locally . Not just in archives.

Remember : MSM feeds will be edited and sanitized.

Look for ordinary citizen shot and alt media original.videos and photos.

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factdigger 4 points ago +4 / -0

There is going to be tons of videos uploaded by ordinary citizens who were recording that event.

SAVE EVERYTHING LOCALLY in highest quality.

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factdigger 2 points ago +2 / -0

They are insane. The whole lot of them. They've drank, believed and internalized their own kool-aid propaganda for hundreds of years. They are in mass Psychosis and believe their shared delusion is the consensual reality. That is the definition of insanity.

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factdigger 3 points ago +3 / -0

Science as a method still exists. Apply it along with Baysian statistics.

ScienTISM is for authority believing morons.

Trust the process not the title.

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factdigger 2 points ago +2 / -0

First one (Hararri) is a pure physical materialist.

Second (Sheldrake) is a pure idealist (i.e. Beyond even pan-psychism).

These are ontologically completely opposite and mutually exclusive camps.

Please read a book on philosophy.

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factdigger 7 points ago +7 / -0

The sad unfortunate reality is that she will only finally get it, when she gets mugged, robbed or raped in her newly changed ethnically diverse neighbourhood.

Ah well, Vote Asshole - Find Out.

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