This 50 Jewish families mostly live in EU, have realty in EU, keep their wealth in EU and so on, not on Ukraine.
They are like external vacuum pumps sucking out of Ukraine any wealth they could reach.
Obviously, if they had any plans to build Jewish state on Ukraine, they would have been building something there, develop their possible future "Holy Land" and so on.
Also, all their assets resided on Ukraine they use to suck it dry, will obviously change owners after this regions will eventually join Russia, Poland, Hungary or Romania, depending on respective population. All businesses in Zaporozhie, Kherson, Donetsk, Lugansk and Crimea that belonged to that Jewish families do not belong to them anymore.
Russian authorities playing by juridical textbooks, and looks like they are pretty good at that, so you will not find any proclamations and moves that will sound like "whatever oligarch property was nationalized!!!", it all covered by some law tricks and papers, so it just happen like something routine.
AFAIK, there are no any loud calls and cries about "illegal property seizure" nor about property of hostile Western corporations here, nor about property of hostile oligarchs. Everything made in the pretty juridical way, f.e. so corporations/oligarhs could not fulfill some obligations or contracts and pay fines, prolong license, present some papers in person to tax service in time or whatever bureaucracy. So, they lose property like by their own fault, due to unwilling to follow the Russian laws.
From the other side, again, AFAIK, Western corporations who are not hostile and ready to circumvent Western sanctions and continue to work here even recieve wide support from Russian authorities in establishing schemes of sanction circumvention here.
Since Ukrainian Jewish families are pretty hostile toward Russia, that thing with "self-inducted" property loss will happen with that Jewish families to. You might be aware of beta version of such method was used against Khodorkovskiy and his Yukos corporation, when Khodorkovskiy began actively participate on the Western side of political games against Russia. It was succesfull try, but due to some drawbacks it rised some noise on the West. Today method is polished to perfection and works without all that unnecessary noise.
To fulfill the prophecy of Armageddon in particular and Apocalypsis in whole (Return of Mashiah and acquiring total control of the World in Jewish religion) Jews need to build Third Temple in Jerusalem.
Also, Jews hate and afraid all slavic countries, and nobody will pay them welfare there, so no, if, hopefully, Israel will be destroyed, Jews will flee to the Western countries with the highest welfare rates.
Khazarian Kaganate was completely destroyed by slavic people, if you are not aware. It will never exist anymore.
Also, centers of Jewish attraction on Ukraine are Dnepropetrovsk and Uman. They are on Eastern Ukraine and will be eventually under control of Russia. But Russia already have Jewish Autonomous Region on Southern Far East (closer to Japan), so even if there will be influx of Jewish refugees into Russia (which is highly inprobable due to aforementioned reasons), they will be offered to settle in their Autonomous Region if they want to acquire Russian citizenship, not into returned Russian regions.
And the territory, where Khazarian Kaganate once resided already deep in Russia. It is barely touched Donetsk region and extended to the East, up to Volga mouth and Caspian Sea. there are no any signs that any Jewish refugees have any pretension to settle or perpetuate any activity on that territory at all.
Good post.
Most people even can't imagine how little independence they have and how important it is.
justification for Russia's imperialism.
The point is that Russians don't need any "justification" for Russian imperialism. We are proud of it. If somebody interested - we have explanation for one or another move. Not "justification". It is West elites who constantly needs "justification" for fucking up whole world, not us.
You don't need to post these wall of text.
I'm currently doing very boring work of reverse engineering and fixing bugs in one stupid firmware written by low-wage outsource slaves of one Western corporation, so I just use you as a kind of relaxation from this boring work. And thank you for supporting this conversation. :)
Are you still pretending that you don't care about my opinion?
Yep. You are not my relative or whatever. How your opinion could influence me? I just find it funny to study the abyss of western arrogance and ignorance.
Russia conquered anc colonized all of Sibera and plenty of -stan nations.
You found it in some Western textbooks written by worst enemies of Russia, aren't you?
All nations of Siberia and -stans are perfectly fine as part of Russia. They have their own governments and are full Russian citizens. We don't have some reservations or colonies.
what happened to the Crimean Tatars?
First, this Tatars are "Crimean" not because they are native to crimea. They was nomad tribes, tiny fragment of Khazarian Kaganate. Just part of them settled there. In times of WWII Stalin saved them from total annihilation. Crimean Tatars desided to take side of Germany in WWII. If they was not removed from fronlines, they all would have been join Germany troops and evetually killed as enemy, along with Germans. Now they are perfectly fine, have representation in Crimea government, their language is one of official languages of Crimea and they have full rights as any Russian citizen.
Same thing happened with Chechens. Take a look at modern Grozny city and find out what side they fight on today.
Such policy have its benefits and drawbacks, but looking from the point of Russia as historical entity, benefits oviously overweight any drawbacks.
How come that Crimea is full of Russians?
Crimea is full of Russians because Russia defeated Ottoman Empire and included Crimea in Russia.
In the distant past, Crimea was inhabited by Greeks they build towns and had their lifes there for a long time. Crimean Greeks was totally exterminated by Turks at some point, Turks didn't even develop anything in Crimea, never settled there, never build a single village and used it just as a military base to attack Russia, Bulgaria and other countries around. Then Turks was defeated by Russia, Crimea become part of Russia, so it was inhabited with Russians.
Then was British "Crimean war" against Russia in attempt to colonize Crimea and build naval base. For whatever reason arrogant and stupid Brits thought that they are rulers of all seas. Their asses was heavily kicked in that humiliating for Brits war but British elite still can't forget about Crimea and their stupid idea that they are some sea Empire and have rights for every sea in the world.
Then Germans tried to conquer Crimea, and also failed.
Strange that arrogant idiots in Western elites, after numerous defeats still suppose that they could somehow take Crimea. Even their shennigans with so called "Ukraine" failed miserably. They are welcome if they don't care about lives of their military.
Russians never deny that Russia is empire. But our empire don't need colonies, and never had them. We use different approach. This seems could not be understand by West who could not imagine any apporoach to building empire other then their.
Thanks for conversation. Meanwhile, it's morning here. :)
You'd ask the head of your church.
He told me that this verse is not about persons, but about principles of authority and power that corrupt people. Something close to what I wrote in my first reply in previous discussion.
Not about some angels, fallen or not.
And, meanwhile, angels have blood and flesh, and verse directly states that it is not about flesh and blood, so any angels with gang names are obviously excluded.
Again, don't expect that all people have your background and cultural references. Things that important for you could be completely unimportant for others.
THE FALLEN ANGELS TOOK DAUGHTERS OF MEN AS WIFE'S, AND GAVE BIRTH TO THE NEPHILIM. Aka Giants. Men of reknown. Heroes.
Whatever. Nephilim, Giants, Bigfoot. Not my things, honestly. Entertaining, of course, but completely useless in practical sense.
Still don't see any connections between your narrative and my post. Why don't you make your own post with your theory and have a nice discussion relevant to your beliefs with people who interested in it?
Interesting, will there be numerologists who will calculate something from "ἐξουσία" and will push their story, trying to convince me that this word means Stalink satellites as "math show"?
You write those walls of text to justify Russia's imperialism because you don't care about my opinion.
I found it kind of entertaining to study levels of arrogance and ignorance among some conspiracies.win visitors. If you would have been more thorough, you had checked my comments history. :)
And funny fact - you started with Russian colonialism, but now it is already Russian imperialism. :) Seems you have no any opinion at al. Isn't it entertaining?
I've given you lists, definitions, and explained what message your Bible verse was conveying.
Thank you very much, but I'm not interested in all that metaphysical stuff, really. It does not explain anything at all, it is just secondary guessing around things mentioned in primary source.
AND, you downvoted me
I don't care about that votes/kerma stuff at all, so I didn't downvote anyone here.
you were looking for the angel hierarchy
Don't tell me what I'm looking for and I'll not tell you where to go. I'm not interested in angel hierarchy. I'm Orthodox Cristian, and we are not very into that stuff about angels and around. I know that Western confessions pay a lot of attention to that angel things, there are numerous cultural things connected with angels even in civil life, from cute statues on cimney to the names and all that stuff. For us, angels are just God's messengers and serves without free will. We don't have discussions who is cooler - cherubim or seraphim, what languages they could speak or something like.
YOUR BIBLE VERSE IS LISTING ANGELS.
Why do you think so? Greek words from original text are pretty civil and name things that named long before New Testament, and may be even before Old one. "ἀρχή", "ἐξουσία", "κοσμοκράτωρ" is just Greek words for known things. Why angels would ever have that names? "Boss", "Alien Matter", "Ruler of the World" - are angels some nigger gang, hackers community or what, to have such names made from regular words of foreing language? I thought they had names like "Michael", "Gariel", "Rafael" - with Hebrew origin, kind of abbreviations, really, AFAIK.
I could even imagine where your idea could come - somebody obsessed with that angel hierarchy, names and stuff took Bible and began to search any words that could be posed as angel name in context. Just like numerologists here finding their 666 in anything. Or like Jews who could find swastika everywhere. IDK, may be there was some competition among angelologists - who will find more angels...
For me, New Testament texts are pretty civilian, written by civilians for civilians to bring Jesus words to masses. And hardly Jesus or Apostoles would have used some angels names that sounds like regular words speaking to the ordinary people of different regions who could not had any idea about that angelologist stuff.
I prefer not to play that murky linguistic games. I prefer read sources as they written, literally. If there is ancient word that existed long before source with distinct meaning - that means author had in mind exactly that meaning, not some stretched assumption of some nerdy person. This works perfectly.
You're not trying to use vocabulary properly.
I took an old Greek-Russian dictionary from the shelf, found "ουσία" and read translation. From what I read I found that Greeks use that word to describe physical matter in scientific and philosophical senses.
You mean dictionaries should be used in some different way?
From the other side, you are using pedowikia, which is more than questionable from the very beginning.
Are you reading the links, and not comprehending how they are exactly what you're looking for...
I'm looking information about physical properties of supposed "exotic matter". Do you have its density in kg/m³? Or melting point? Well, I get you are not very into all that scientific things. OK, then how those in power use that "exotic matter"? Do they drink it or chew it? Is it a powder or liquid? Do they aplly it on top their head or just carry in pocket to get authority? How they store it when not in use? Anything? It is much more important questions than anything you linked here combined together.
I'm an engineer, not some theologist or philosopher. I don't really care about ranks of angels or how many of them in that ranks.
So, looks like you didn't bother to read and understand what I wrote.
I don't see in your links anything about "ousia" part of topic. "ousia" means physical substance.
Physical substances have properties. You know - viscosity, density, melting and boiling points, rigidity, gloss, haze and so on. They could be found, contained and studied. That is why I found that linguistic thing very interesting. Not because of "exo" part, not because of stupid pedowikia links, but because it could be direct link to something physical that is present in our world and physically used by elites to keep their power.
But you for whatever reason trying to push your links without any information about this "exotic matter" properties.
I like your finding, really, but this "exomatter" thing is simplier and much more practical. "ousia" is literally a term for physical substance. So it is physically present in our world, so could be found, measured, studied, used and destroyed if my assumptions is correct.
I'm not very into that linguistic things, wich are pretty interesting, but barely practical. Nice entertainment, but... I'm also shure that aliens exist, because of purely scientific reasons, and even speaking from the point of religion, nowhere in Bible is said that Earth with humans was the only God's creation.
So, "exo" part of that thing is not what attracted my attention. It was "ousia" part, physical and practical.
So, you still want me to guess what do you mean? I don't get it, pardon my English.
Where is in your wonderful links something about that "exotic matter" that is provide power over people?
Could you quote something, or explain, where should I see something about "ἐξουσία" in your sources? Not about angels, not about their hierarchy, you obviously in love with, but about that specific "exotic matter", its physical properties, ways of spreading, sources, drains and so on.
You think the wealth funneled by oligarchs to Israel and Europe can be recovered?
It's not about recovering their shit at all. It is about example for others.
Moreover, I thik it will be wise to not return all that stolen money at all, because they will have to put them into circulation just to survive, so that trillions will play role in fiat destruction.
How do you explain Putin appointing Prigozhin, Lavrov, his confidant being Abramovich, outlawing countersemitism, condemning the nazzi applauded in the Canadian parliament, constantly condemning nazzi things and now deciding to run as independent?
Putin is a globalist shill and he is trying to play by their rules, push their agendas and simultaneously stay in power here.
If you don't get, I'm talking about Russia, as historic and social phenomenon, not Putin or whatever. Russia had best and worst rulers, but its overall course had never changed. It was rulers who changed up to Russia needs, not vice versa. Do you remeber what happened with Yeltsin, f.e.? Nobody even recall him today. And all his attempts to destroy us eventually failed. Now we have some very moderate person who is torn between globalists and Russia. And we don't give a fuck about globalists. If Putin will not be able to GTFO his globalist friends and addiction to their laws, next one will be perfectly able.
Could you please explain, how exactly angel hierarchy have anything to do with the topic? And where is anything Greek in it? Do you mean type names or something? Or that some Greek authors wrote something about it?
Is it so hard to be specific?
I'm really ethnic Russian living in Russia.
Suddenly, etnicity spectrum of oligarchs with Russian citizenship changing with time. Those who once thrived on the ruins of USSR have hard times today. Fridman, Abramovich, Mintz - fled from Russia along with numerous bankers and other leeches.
Kind of self-cleansing. Exactly same thing happened in middle of 1930s. Jewish Bolsheviks suddenly found capitalist West much more preferrable. Not everybody succeded, however. Some, most disguisting and harmful was killed like Trotsky even abroad.
But today there is no any force comparable to Germany of 1940s to unleash a total war on us. Look, in mid-30s Russia cleaned itself from Jewish Bolsheviks. in mid-1950s we had advanced industry with every miracle science had at the time in a country without homeless, starvation or financial crisises. And this is with 5 years of heavy war and Georgian tyrant on the top. Looks like this time things will unwind much faster. And unlike for USSR, there is no that stupid tales about "freedom, democracy and capitalism" in the arsenals of our rivals anymore. We got a good lesson in 90s about that crap.
Jewish oligarchs are minor problem today, really. Real problem is a deficit of good engineers and qualified workforce due to insanity of previous decades when every young person want to become manager, financist or lawyer. Or that shit about climate along with other globalist crap that poisoned many among Russian authorities. Traditional Russian lazyness which is a source of amazing inventions and a reason we rarely make succesfull commercial products with them. Illegal migrants. And so on. That is the real problems, not some jews who stole something and run away. But that does not mean that we will not come for them and their wealth and they are safe.
LARPing what exactly? Please clarify.
The only thing I worry about that solar storm is that it is very cloudy here, so I'll miss that celestial show.
We absolutely don't care about how others view us. For us there is just no any need constantly whine "What for?" or "It is not us".
We do things. We partitioned Poland with Germany and have no any remorse for it. We had more than enough reasons to do that and I presented that reasons you was completely unaware about. Deal with it. If you don't like it, it is your problem. And if somebody will continue to poke us, or try to blame us or provoke us, we will definitely do some things again. And without any remorse we will write them into our history, not giving any fuck to "others" and their perverted delusions about our history.
παροσ, f.e. is "before", "ahead".
Interesting, who pays for that stupid narrative that "those disuisting Jews who do shit to us are not really Jews"?
I see exactly same posts with that narrative on many forums, boards or alternate news sites comment sections.
This posts appeared massively more or less not long before Israel started its suicidal Gaza mission.
That Jews, everybody despise, are not Jews, they are "Khazarians", "Babylonians", "Persians", "Chineese", whoever current western politics declared as enemy.
OK, you have some point. Then where is those good "True Jews"? Name one, why don't you do it? Where your "True Jews" live, what religion they practicise, do they account themselves as choosen ones? Crickets.
So, go fuck yourself with that stupid attempts of whitewashing Jews.
There obviously exist those rare Jews who are critical toward the whole mainstream Jewish narratives and concepts, far beyond that Zionist - antiZionist false dichotomy, and I could easily name them - Eduard Khodos, Edmon Topelberg, Bobby Fisher, Noam Chomsky and so on. But they are etnically not any defferent from that "False Jews" you are talking about.
This setup is far from optimal, because of drawbacks with fast wearing of wires and stuff in electrolyte.
IDK, if there was some attempts to develop this device further and get rid of that drawbacks, but modern electronics make this senseless. Why bother with large quantities of expensive copper, when you could do the same thing with few cents of modern electronic components?
I admit that idea of this invention is pretty cool by itself, but I do not agree this invention could be somehow actual today.