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Neo1 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'd love to write a main post on black holes this week but it might be discussion-stifling because I tend to go high-effort. That's different from starting a post on a generic topic because I have a lot of opinions coming to the table by suggesting the topic. Plus I can still get called "christiantard trump troll" regardless of its applicability, and that leads to a need for the sidebar rule "respect other views".

We carry that burden wherever we go... Do you really care?

  • We will get insulted 100%.

  • Your high effort will be appreciated by other people, who put high effort. If the low-effort people insult you, do you actually care? Because you shouldn't.

  • You should never fear speaking your own mind. If that's against someone's rules, then you should ask yourself: Would you mute yourself, so other feel comfortable? But one day muting yourself will eat you up...

Two possibilities:

  1. Either you're correct, and you must post your opinion.

or

  1. You're incorrect, but the only way to confirm that is through listening to other's opinions...

So how can being mute help in any case?


I'd love to suggest conspiracy topics weekly for "round table" but I'd hope that it's because there's critical mass to get an actual forward-moving discussion. Weekly topics of varying quality would lead to risks of monopolization (as above), of general disinterest leading to attrition, and of dilution (sliding and echo chamber).

Not really. You're asking for the popular vote. How can the popular vote be against the community?

I previously lost all "weekly round tables" discussions because other news were current, while mine were old. I never blamed the community when my topic wasn't discussed. Rather I realized that there's a time for it, and it's after the most recent topics that developed currently have been discussed.

We should speak more and more on many topics. The enemy wants us silent, and that's another reason why we should speak louder and louder!


"This is also a situation where I'd consider moderating if the community would have me, because there isn't much burden there and I wouldn't promise anything other than objectivity."

Anyone here up to a vote? We need a moderator and u/SwampRangers offers his help. We have been without posts that unite our thinking for very long... We need a moderator urgently! Please cast your vote! It's ok if it is for yourself even.


I have a few communities, but didn't create one for conspiracies specifically because of this one. My taking the names c/FlatEarth, c/Nazi, and c/Holocaust has not resulted in much. Right now the new c/4thHorsemanNews by u/Tetartos_Ippeas is having a great debut for conspiracies and we could cross-pollinate in either direction.

You say you made 3 but you give up on your ego and promote a 4th one - not done by you... Respect for that! Honestly!

I will visit them all, we need to expand! Hope others visit them too!


Looking at it in general, it seems that a combination of renewal of c/Conspiracies along with a continuing boost to c/4thHorsemanNews would be useful if there are enough people and if they don't have axes to grind. Conspiracy theorists recognize that any group of ten or more is always infiltrated by the cabal anyway, so we must work around that. Collaboration is good but I would have no expectation that we would necessarily have instant teaching-learning sessions because there are so many other ways people interact. That's why I limit myself to certain paths, (1) flip answers that I don't have to defend, (2) detailed answers for my own and the lurkers' sakes without any requirement that anyone listen, and (3) requests for commitment to a shared goal (such as "God") so that the goal itself can be held up later as a witness if the discussion goes awry. If someone wants to be argumentative it's not my job or interest to join debate, but I do when I can use a path like one of those. If there are enough people who work like that then maybe "collaboration" becomes community.

You see collaboration and you work for it. I cast my vote for you as moderator of c/Conspiracies!

To me, you have proven that you left your ego behind and you want to accomplish the goal of the community. That does come with challenges from shills that would want to break you, but I know you're better than me, so I cast my vote firmly towards a person that is able to defend his position and leave his ego - you!

You didn't have to prove your worth, but you did it anyway, for the best of this community. I really hope you can help us forward!


I hope we can vote for a moderator from this point on, so we can finalize it in a week. Anyone can cast their own votes. It's fine, if you vote for yourself even.

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Neo1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Doesn't sound like an opinion on the topic, more like an attempt to trigger... just let me make sure I spell it correctly... "Christcuck legions of Jerusalem"... Whatever is that...

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Neo1 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's actually very deep thinking into the mind of different forums' users, I really appreciate that.

If you could desire a specific outcome with your posts, or your ultimate post, what would that be? Disregard all, who read it, just the specific post that you think would have the most truth in it to turn the tables... If that is even possible...

Don't think of what people would like to see... Think of what is the truth, and how can we create this ultimate project as well as we possibly can. The correct people would then be attracted by it. And if you think about it, that's our target audience.

Just consider someone with a lot of saved videos/files/books on conspiracies, someone with skills in editing videos (not perfectly, but I can learn new skills easily in less than a day)... If you could command this person to help you to do the ultimate work that could possibly perfectly help a newcomer into conspiracies, or focus a veteran into the correct direction, what would that be?

No need to rush a reply, just think of what you want to see finalized... I have some things in mind, but my last project required a lot of time, and I did it alone, so it would be faster if we both work on it... (don't want to pressure you, but I have searched for someone to help me slightly, while I can do all the heavy lifting... You have great ideas and insight... I would like to use them to create some kind of a final documentary, or at least a starting one, so we can see what we can do united...)

Think about it... I'm not the best in what I do, but certainly I can save you some time in this ultimate project. Probably you can check your posts in c/Manna and decide what post is the best, if you're happy with those posts. If not, I would be doing that alone, as usual, but it will require more time...

You have great insight! I can do the hard, boring work. Can we make something out of this? I can give you examples of hard-hitting documentaries that are worth to watch by any researcher... If you don't have any ideas, I can suggest some... But I need a strong brain, like yours, to make a moderate project into a hard-hitting one...

If you could spare the time, I would greatly appreciate that!

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Neo1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Care to explain it to me?

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Neo1 2 points ago +2 / -0

Maybe it's not the best idea...

That part may be stopping you from talking about the real issues. I was thinking that same thing when writing this post, but if we didn't wrote what we did, then how do we expect to receive our answers?

It's great that you're humble, but we need ideas! Honestly! Any idea is good, and don't worry if it's not the best idea... It's the best idea that you could think of in a short timespan, and it's better than nothing! Look around the comments - it's the only idea that is discussed. I appreciate you sharing it!!!


I suppose there's a conspiracy hiding how demons use black holes, how deep the black hole goes, how black holes can be used for time travel, how they teach us about the creation of white holes, Star Trek but for real. This week I became a black hole miner.

Now, I will share my thoughts on it, but please don't get discouraged because I don't know everything about everything... I just share my 2 cents.

  • Demons are not in space. Their work is only with humans, so their "black holes" would be on Earth. Think of a vampire - a vampire cannot survive without blood, so is the demon without a weak soul to chew on...

How do I know this? Every major demonic work: Dictionnaire infernal / Book of the law / Necronomic... Shows the demons as etherials, who can transport easily to any destination that has certain conditions, but no black holes.

A black hole is a term used by liars in NASA to explain things that they can't explain. (And keep in mind, I'm only suggesting my point to be refuted by you - if you have a stronger argument - you win!)

  • Has anyone seen a black hole?

  • Does anyone know how devastating a black hole is without never seeing one? It could be a fear tactic, so others are afraid to explore it.

  • Occultism shows that any demon can be summoned in any place and no black hole is necessary. That's one example that can backed up with proofs.

  • Star Trek is fiction that is used to make us believe in aliens. Any cosmical propaganda there is... Same as the X-files... A tv show is not a way to back up claims, when we know they use actors and lies to make this believable. My point is that a show alone cannot verify anything, but a show and a real situation can.


Sorry if I am too pushy on this topic, but these are counter arguments - these you will see in any debate. How are you replying to them is up to you. What really helps are sources, proofs, and any conspiracy-related topic on the subject.

I would like to hear your views on this!


I was also saying the forum needs an active moderator so that important posts can be put in an index that can be accessed from the sidebar or menu and so that the hottest posts can be given a "sticky" code so that they will appear first on the default feed and attract more attention and reflect the forum well.

Indeed. But where is it?

We'd all want someone to take care of our troubles, but it seems like this place has none active moderators... One solutions could be for you to create your own page and moderate it as well as you can, another would be to call for a community that would visit a forum and place certain people, that you trust, as moderators...

If you want to create your own community, I will help with everything that I have. But I suck as a moderator. I can flag things for you, if you want, but I wouldn't want to make the final decisions. If you have an idea for a new commity, you have my full support! Many will benefit from such a place!

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Neo1 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thank you too!

Just to ask you - if you have some ideas to make this place better, or any other forum, what would that be?

What would you like to see more as saveable?

If we were a community that delivers to the users, who visit it - what are the things that you would like to see?

Sorry to focus on you for so long, but your reply is honest and I don't want to miss good input when it can literally change the structure of a forum. I know I'm pushing you a lot, but if you feel like it... you can share information that is very valuable to people, who care about their posts and want to deliver the best content to those, who read it.

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Neo1 3 points ago +3 / -0

but really all I did was a quick search for the old forum’s posts (which axo actually collated, which you can see at the bottom of that reddit page) and a quick scroll through Clem’s old posts

That's more than most people. And literally everyone, who answered the post, so what you did is huge! If someone does something little, but it's the best thing that you can do at the time - then you've done a great service!

If I could only make one suggestion, it might be to try and reinvigorate this place (in terms of members/contributors) would be to “advertise” well made posts in the other, few forums left on this site (namely the donald, kotaku in action, and the qtard board).

If you need help with this, then I offer mine. I don't think I've joined those, but if there's anything you need there, I can offer my limited skills.

Also, tangentially, I’ve noticed that this place has far more posters than commenters. A few guys here just kinda spew the same shit over and over and over while no one bothers to engage with it (because why would you?)

True.

I got the reply from some user that never replied to his posts that he never checks the comments... That's literally reducing to 0 the chance to interract with the community, but somehow he read my comment, so there is still hope for people in here. Probably they got discouraged from the many shills that comment and never post in here...


If you have something in mind, I have free time, I'm able to edit videos to make compilations on many topics, I have a big database on many topics also... I can try to help you, if you have any idea how to reinvigorate this place, or any other. I ask nothing in return.

Please help me, and help the people in conspiracy forums to have a direction! Even if we can't do this, we would've at least tried...

Just please don't leave this just as a comment... Let's do something... Whatever it is. Let's make an effort and see how it pays out.

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Neo1 2 points ago +2 / -0

You lie poorly.

Yes, you do. You are in a conspiracy sub in hopes that something would change. Even if you don't admit that to yourself now - you still do.

I know how aggravating can get when nobody listens to you... Then you just go "fuck it! Have it your way then... Experience the downfall first hand..."...

But then you will remember that you're not like those NPCs and your fate is not as easy as theirs. Your life will be hard, as it is supposed to be. You're put in this place because you can take it, so another one can be on the easy path because they can't take it... Do you understand that?

You serve a very important purpose... But truthfully, without it, who are we then?

You can abandon it for a time, that's allowed - I've done it. But what do we do next? We return to the same place where people seek the truth at the cost of their friends, family, status, etc.


You can convince yourself that you've given up all you want... but you and I know that you didn't. You're way more important than you realize... That's why you can't quit.

It's not a matter of "turning the tide", it's a matter of turning one person against the tide... And you are that one person. You were turned at some point... Why is it so impossible to turn another?

I've been at your place, I know how exhausting is to work your ass off to wake people up, just so they can spit in your face... But I also know how every insult is forgotten when you wake up just one person... And I always wonder - that person could've been me at the time...

You have to fight. You are rare... You are very much needed in the battle ahead.

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Neo1 3 points ago +3 / -0

And what's the conspiratorial value of "black holes"? What is the aim that you want to achieve with that discussion? (Which could be a basic question to anyone raising a topic, and starting a new discussion.)

Do black holes exist? Do we believe NASA lies? Can we actually go through a black hole? What is your actual motive to give this idea about Black holes?


I agree - no moderation in quite some time... Seems like an echo chamber in here... And if we don't fix it, who will?


You might also want to start by compiling (and possibly annotating) the good past discussions you refer to in a master index that can be kept updated (and stickied when we get a mod).

I am an absolute idiot in moderation and really understanding those terms... Can you explain that to an absolute idiot like me? I know what the words mean, but I have no idea what you meant by them...

I can do the work - no problem for me, actually I like doing a lot of work... But if you can explain your words to a person, who was never a moderator, but can compile a lot of information if needed... I would really appreciate that!

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Neo1 1 point ago +2 / -1

That's usually the reason why most people don't even bother - they think too much of themselves and too little of others...

In my experience, everyone was an idiot, and everyone was smart - including you and me. If you go into the megalomaniac abyss, how can you recognize who is worth the trouble and who isn't?

Actually, smart people can debate and defeat anyone. Even an ignorant dumb person. A smart person can demolish the argument of a dumb person until nothing is left, so these were the people I was aiming to attract with this post.

If you just give up when you meet dumb people, then you're not of any practical use in 2025, are you?


I wanted to attract people, who can debate well. That's why the major word was "DISCUSSION"... Who can discuss?

  • A person, who gives up their argument?

  • A person, who doesn't give up their argument?

It's rhetorical to show the obvious successful point. And to contrast that with your actions.

You can insult anyone as "christiantard trump trolls" but have you achieved anything with this?

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Neo1 3 points ago +3 / -0

I don't visit this forum much, but all I know is that he's gone from here...

Probably all the mods too... Or was there 1 mod left?

It's basically an echo chamber now.

Sorry that I couldn't be of any help for your question.

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Neo1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not sure why u think I'm triggered by responding twice to a comment but anywho...

Because you responded twice... Duuhhh...

Normal people don't do that fyi.

Of course it can't be proven just like almost everything in the conspiracy THEORY world...

Now you're just downplaying it. Of course a lot can be proven, but you want to sound coherent.

Swing... And it's a miss...

I tried to explain to u it's much more than it being this particular example of Just a 'children's book" but I guess u missed the Bible part.

Because you never explained it. Explanation is providing details, not just referencing it, which is what you did...

Don't care if others missed the change but some people have noticed and would love to understand how and why.

Nope, you're just absurd and hilarious in your delusion. That's pretty much how a loser speaks.


But you can defend your false claims if you want to. Or you can pretend that you have claims as you're currently doing...

It matters little to me, honestly. :D

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Neo1 -1 points ago +1 / -2

Ok, how would you stimulate something that is only active during deep sleep?

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Neo1 0 points ago +2 / -2

But how exactly is that making any sense?

The pineal gland is activated in deep sleep...

I don't understand how this post makes any sense whatsoever... If you understand it, could you help me out?

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Neo1 1 point ago +1 / -0

*Braun

But yeah, I remember his assistant. Her story sounds plausible, but yet - "15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established." - Deuteronomy 19

Although, throughout all my research her story is what is INDEED planned for the future and she never backed down on it. Confirmed by so many others already...

Not a lot of them mention the blackout and the following zombie apocalypse, but I guess that's between a researcher to another...

I wish researchers in here could expand more on this topic, so they can narrow it down and prepare for the outcome.

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Neo1 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't know why you reply 2 times to a single comment, but I guess you got triggered or something...

If you can't prove it, then leave it in the theory section... Some people swear that they saw Santa Claus... Should we immediately believe them as well?

I would rather believe a mistake in the print, before I jump to "someone is messing up with time... And all they did was this children's book"... :D :D :D

See how stupid this sounds?

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Neo1 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't know why you reply 2 times to a single comment, but I guess you got triggered or something...

If you can't prove it, then leave it in the theory section... Some people swear that they saw Santa Claus... Should we immediately believe them as well?

I would rather believe a mistake in the print, before I jump to "someone is messing up with time... And all they did was this children's book"... :D :D :D

See how stupid this sounds?

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Neo1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Replying to your own comment... :D

Are you muslim? Is that why you act retarded all the time?

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Neo1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Glad to read that.

Hope they nullify themselves in the future. And if they can take some of those fake jews with them - absolute win!


Honestly, I only replied to the title... You wrote that you asked Grok, and I laughed... :D No reason to read any of this nonsense.

Also, about your clear lie:

Claims of a "Christian genocide" (e.g., assertions of over 100,000 Christians killed by Boko Haram) are rejected as simplistic propaganda, with no evidence of systematic religious extermination.

Is negated by the meaning of the word "genocide":

"Genocide is defined as acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group. These acts include killing members of the group, causing serious harm, and imposing conditions intended to bring about the group's physical destruction."

It's ok, English is hard when you do your research asking Grok... :D :D :D

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Neo1 0 points ago +1 / -1

Glad to see so many veterans in here helping with more and more examples of the connections beyond the sigil.

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Neo1 1 point ago +1 / -0

So, it couldn't be a double print of the book?

You just go straight to "someone is using magical powers to mess up with the timeline"?

And the first thing they go for is a children's book?

Just seems absurd.

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Neo1 3 points ago +3 / -0

Lenin is jewish... what do you expect him to say?

So is Karl Marx and Trotski, so literally the people, who created communism.

Is anyone actually surprised by this?

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