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HonestTruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

All of them? I have no time to write such a list! You can pick from the top visible ones, talking heads laying down the claims, from there you can render a guess to the directors above. Use your imagination.

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HonestTruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

Imagine, complete darkness then, sudden light.

As your eyes accustom to the change, you recognize that there are literally gajillions of filthy crawling creatures all around you, it is all you can see, upon everything in all directions as far as the eye can see.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

I get it, I think anything is possible with these people executing plans based on whatever they want.

But given the plethora of evidence gathered already regarding the nordstream pipelines we can rest assured the gambit is in play, we are now entering the real stages of the war.

I like to think of it as the continuation of WWII which frankly was never really ended, because the causation for the war lived on and plans and planning continued, nothing really stopped except for a period of inactivity on the front lines. And even that can be argued. Perhaps the front lines just moved.

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HonestTruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

Everything is incremental. The majority of minds cannot comprehend that we are simply implementing long laid plans.

People cannot seem to comprehend the supremacy that the people who have managed to wrestle control desire.

We are in a religious war and we are in the end game, It is highly likely that a vast majority of power wielding individuals align to this type of thinking, I have seen earmarks of it fairly up close, when you get business people into meetings they reveal who they are. They are all cut from this cloth. It is a mental disorder.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think that is a weird way to look at it. I think everything causes consequences, the elections are clearly a consequence of the west actions in ukraine and ukraines actions in those regions for the past 8 years, and likely beyond.

When the real information peculates to the surface it is easy to identify the situation created in the ukraine since the mid 1940's.

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HonestTruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

Agreed, I suppose I meant back in the limelight.

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HonestTruth 3 points ago +3 / -0

hahahah, this is so awesome. You must be some kind of badass there King of Crazy. props to you brother.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hmm, I am pretty sure I seen 'mission accomplished' banners for both of those?

In all seriousness, the removal of the systems in place in the country suffices to me as job complete. I cannot recall any real goals for those locations aside from suppress and destroy anything that would enable them to live as a normal society, that stuff was surely done.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

lol? If you can read the posts from the two accounts and obtain that much similarity, perhaps. But I doubt it, I think I would know.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

I am not sure what you mean.

Syria and Assad was the first global failure of the nato. This is known worldwide and we are watching the effect that had on nato unfold. nato is finished.

Gadaffi and Libya was basically the last success. It come at a huge cost and precipitated many more events some yet to come.

I am not going to give him anything for being against it, it is likely he was playing the other side.

Yes, cowardly eggheads is likely giving them a bit much.

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HonestTruth 4 points ago +4 / -0

Putin has never crossed any lines, nothing declared in the international domain that I am aware of.

The evidence is clear on who is at fault here, we have a really long history of inputs. All coming from one side.

War will not be upto joe, he is just a figurehead, nothing like Putin.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

You get stuck in perfecting the data.

I would not agree with this assessment, I am of the mind that if I can shoot more holes in it than a rusty can, it should have a better foundation prior to chasing it like there is some valid form of analysis available to improve upon.

we are just trying to see the concept to prove that heliocentric model is bullshit.

This is just as absurd as trying to disprove any other hypothetical/theoretical proposition, A model is generally a facsimile or an attempt at one, more likely its just a collection of ideas someone has proposed that others align to.

The entire process of scientific analysis is to begin with ideas and end with known measurable quantities that can be used to justify understanding.

When you have subjective matter you cannot speak definitively, you are left to query and hypothesize.

I never proclaimed to have studied all aspects of either of these 'models', you get really emotional and pick and choose where to insert broad strokes into my conveyance to you. Disparaging.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

Is that not an alignment story? What about vera putina?

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HonestTruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

imaginary lines. I would suggest that Russia has published clear doctrine regarding the use of nuclear weapons. So we can simply refer to that.

Russia is in the superior position and will continue to remain in the top military spot in the entire conflict. I have no doubt of this. The west simply cannot project anything over there at all, just junk.

This is not a troop war, there is no concern for large vast troop movements. So far we have not really seen anything yet, the nature of this conflict belongs to the ranged weapons.

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HonestTruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

Everyone is, but this is all planned well ahead of time.

As I stated, it is hopium he is not a wef plant.

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HonestTruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's like this guy just started to gather information? This is starter level understanding. Everyone should know this.

The warmist response is next: "As you raise CO2 you raise water vapor density" and when that happens, that is where you get global warming, from more water vapor.

But it never happened so they had to put that one down.

Just a constant stream of lies and bullshit under this fear mongering narrative. All the data they should is corrupted and manipulated, basically like early covid practice.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

One cannot deny what is required to remain in power, how many assassination attempts can one avoid anyhow?

Makes sense to me that you have to cater to the right groups to get to the right position before you can even start stepping.

First he warned them giving them chance to leave ahead of time, next he declared a mobilization this will push out a bunch more.

Given the state of the financial system and the recent changes, I would think there is still some hope.

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HonestTruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think it is possible we can see some continued escalation from the west, they seem to be pretty hell bent on self destruction.

nato will continue to be clowned in this affair, once the missile war begins.

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HonestTruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

Russia now has the tools it needs to respond to any military threat to the land.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

We keep getting stuck without debating.

Yes, because the three points I have basically shown little interest in as I find them subjective claims of understanding, I did submit this right away. This is a function of missing data points, no fault of mine nor yours. I am just stating that we need more to dig in, because any subjective analysis is prone to being incorrect and there is no need to be incorrect. We just let it go and wait for it to evolve.

I am interested in observations but they are theoretical understandings as they are perceived by the eye of the beholder. Until we can convert that to a broader understanding it is pie in the sky.

I have heard a few theories on rapid canyon formation and I do not really reject them nor accept them, they are interesting ideas and as more evidence continues to be collected maybe one day we can definitively prove one way or the other.

Same as old structures and how many of them were built, lot's of ideas many not concrete but some apparently so. Fun stuff. By themselves they do not prove aliens were ever here :)

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

So much exchange and you pretty much missed it entirely.

That is a typo, I meant to write definitively. As in the ability to define something without ambiguity.

So to start with the claim of the flat horizon, indeed. Your view will always be flat as you are capturing but a small slice of what exists. This is easily understood using the example of the diminishing tracks. Basically the same concept. If I put you on a tennis ball, you would be able to tell right away. If I place you on a sphere large enough you would have no idea.

Do you find it hard to believe that no scientist, engineer, surveyor, has ever measured curve?

This is silly, there are a vast number of people in all of the listed fields who have proposed a myriad of methods to estimate curvature based on the inputs at hand.

Worth pointing out, there are also a vast number of people in all the listed fields who refute curvature, why not? what is vast? a few hundred? a few thousand? I honestly have no idea, could be 50/50 just because I am a fair person.

is that it must be more complicated and take into account all variables before you will consider than a change in velocity exists.

I am glad we have reached agreement here, measuring velocity without knowing how to correctly calculate the various other forces with respect to all bodies in question is just too much for us with our measly instrumentation, we fall back to estimations and either accept it, or reject it. Indeed not a valid tool to be used to make proclamations based upon.

You lied about researching flat earth.

I never lied, nor did I suggest I was done, none of what you say here has any merit, this is a work in progress. I am drilling for answers to obtain understanding, the first stages is to rely on the experience of others and collect.

When you talk of my lazy scientific approaches, surely you must realize I am but a keyboard analyst in this perspective, I am not building tools and performing experiments, I am much before that stage. I can lean on what has been done to confer my own start point, which is not yet materialized. So far nothing is of interest to me.

You really didn't even try to process the day light shift.

This is correct, because in the simple image provided there are far too many missing variables for it to be explaining anything to me. It is incorrect, it is an oversimplification of a given understanding that is already well measured over the past 1000 years in many areas of the planet.

You don't know the flat earth model.

Fine, forgive my ignorance on the nomenclature used to identify the pattern of the sun and the moon and its crisscross stuff, there is nothing there but hyperbole and broken theory, I have no need to dig to that depth of something I do not agree with.

it and that was not in the list.

We are still trying to ascertain what convincing points can be used to 'believe' in flat earth, to bring it past being a 'belief'. From there those points are then analyzed and the goal is to find something worth digging into.

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HonestTruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

You would have to ask the people that manipulate the markets if you want the end goal. Currently the pound is at its lowest ever.

From this perspective it looks like as everyone has suggested, we are moving to a new system of monetary exchange.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

Still on the reality of subjective vs objective, You need to understand that if you did not know what you are seeing then it is what you accept. For example.

I read a newspaper article talking about something I know lots about. I proceed to expose all the holes in the article, information left out, not explained or just plain wrong. I know this because of my own information on the given topic.

I turn the page and read an article I know nothing about... I have a completely different mindset, this information is new to me and the author is the expert, we are trained to trust and accept information and bam, there it is.

So subjective analysis is when you form a conclusion based on the information you have and it cannot be definitely tested with an experiment that produces measurable results.

In the example of the velocity, you have no idea what forces are at play when it comes to moving massive bodies thru the cosmos, you are maybe able to understand the physics information and ideas we have produced so far, but none of that includes moving planets in the cosmos.

So when it comes to building that formula, please feel free to write what you have here and I will reveal as many blanks as I can think of, nevermind the ones that truly exist that noone has a clue about. Way too much fudge in this analysis the data set is garbage in, garbage out. its like doing astrology for your dog.

lets go back to questioning and testing the absurd heliocentric model, but we will still keep it super simple.

What the heck is this rubbish? Look, you cannot simplify a complex problem and carve out half the analysis and come up with usable results, it just does not work that way.

If you want to talk about the orbit the planet makes in the year cycle there are already tons of immeasurable parameters required out of the gate, this is all just guesswork.

People much more informed than us have been working this shit over for a long time and have all revealed, sorry folks, its just guesswork.

There is no way to use this conclusively to prove anything at all, for example.

Given a point in time, when will we return? Say take a snapshot of the solar system and record the bodies locations, at what point will we return?

When our solar system moves, what is moving? who moves? If you wanted to reference the current astrophysics for the response instead of flat earth, you would find that nobody has your answer.

Flat earth will tell you we are not moving and the whole shit revolves around us. hahah, this, I have big problems with. It makes no rational sense in any of my understandings. If you have this belief, care to give me an idea why?

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