I said the same thing in a conversation with someone yesterday. I live in the bluest of all areas, and everyone acts like we just went through a war and are emerging out into the scary world while trying to coexist with the virus. Every day of the past year they spent worrying about getting it, or who would get it, or if it’d come back. They were all in on it. I really wish I could believe the crap they do. All the news and all else is entirely in line with their point of view. It probably feels nice to have been fooled.
My past year’s been a mix of “Are people still doing this shit?” and annoyance. One of the guys I know has started to yell at people wearing a mask on the street. I’m not even against masks or a republican. It’s very clear how this has been handled’s all been a giant sick joke though.
To be clear, I think Covid-19’s real. I also think it’s been 99.99% overblown for the majority of the population, and the methods to deal with it are far worse and will be for far longer than the virus itself.
I know more people like me with bad stories after their vaccination than good ones at this point.
I gave in because it wasn’t a fight I could win, and got my second vaccination shot last week. It might be because it’s interacting with something else I had going on, or just the vaccine, but I’m more than a week out and I am not at all doing well in a way that’s getting worse and I might end up going to the ER.
I might be an outlier case because of other things I had going on, but honestly I deeply regret this. Most people I know felt off for a bit and were fine. I am apparently not one of those people.
Going to have to agree. Part of the reason the Constitution didn’t make provisions for shit like this is because they had assumed based on the temperament of the time that if anyone tried pulling stupid shit like this, people would naturally rise up. The general sedation of people’s just as much of a problem as the lies.
I don’t mean rise up and shoot people, but simply not put up with it when it comes to the lockdowns. Probably was a good idea to quarantine the vulnerable if they were willing, and maybe even to wear masks in some situations like dealing with them or in cramped crowded rooms on occasion, but I can’t think of anything else that wasn’t full on retarded.
I think plenty of the numbers attributed to Covid are influenza, yes. It would be weird if they weren’t considering we didn’t beat the flu and if someone died of almost anything they’d just call Covid on it. I’d be willing to bet half or more of the deaths attributed to Covid aren’t Covid deaths in many of various ways.
No, I think the methods they used to calculate the numbers were largely full of it and they stopped doing them this past year to help lump more of that in with Covid-19 while also prioritizing testing for Covid-19.
I’m fine agreeing to disagree but so far you haven’t made a compelling case against Covid-19 not being real, and you seemingly don’t have to because it’s simpler, easier, and more in line with reality and evidence to say it’s how it’s being treated that’s the problem, not so much the virus with a 99.99% survival rate that mostly targets people in the act of dying.
Most of social media has been fake for a very long time. I’ve worked with some of these companies and they all know it too but like to have their inflated numbers so they do their best to only target things causing them problems or that are very very obviously not real, both in terms of bots and paid content.
It’s almost always been this way from the moment Facebook had ads and any social media site had an audience. You could spend $1mil on TV and movie ads to promote something, or you could pay $20-50k a person a year to create fabricated organic content in all the right places and get everybody to talk about things and like it. It’s been an obvious play from the beginning. And it does work very well. I’ve worked on things like that for things unrelated to politics and the returns were great. Back then you could even get by with a team of two people making multiple accounts and make it seem like you had thousands of people talking about and posting something. The sites love it too because they also can now inflate their numbers. You can do other minor things that add up on top of that too, like tweak the settings to show active users as counted over a longer period, like say anyone that logged on that day vs that hour, to dramatically increase perceived engagement.
It’s all very easy to game and when people realized that they let it happen because it was mutually beneficial.
A lot of those read like you’re lumping a bunch of separate things in together as if they were talking about the same things when they’re not. It’s much simpler to say that Covid has been overblown than it is to say it isn’t real. Your explanation requires lots of extra steps that your links don’t succeed in making.
I agree a lot of the tests probably aren’t that great, but you still have unlimited stories of people, especially in NY, of how they got the virus and how it affected them. Most people are completely fine and many aren’t.
I’m completely open to believing Covid isn’t real, but that’s a giant task to support when you could simply say the lockdowns are bullshit and measures to deal with it are retarded and masks don’t help much in most cases and it isn’t very deadly for almost anybody when 99.99% of people are fine after. I’ve heard it said something like 3-6% have lingering symptoms for months after but I’ve felt that way from the flu before so I don’t know how much stock I’d put in that stat.
I’ve never known people en mass to have that happen to them while getting a positive Covid test before all this. Everyone I’ve known that got Covid had the same kind of story, distinct from the flu.
It’s a big stretch to say Covid-19 isn’t real. Lockdowns were retarded, measures are all overblown, it’s not very deadly for 99.99% of people or more, and it’s been massively over attributed and exploited, but to think that there isn’t a new viral variant out there when people that get it are experiencing unique symptoms to it en mass, and seeing it target skewed demographics from normal flus, is an insurmountable hill to overcome. The answer to the Covid bullshit isn’t to claim Covid isn’t real. There’s too much evidence of it being real. Better to argue that it’s not a big deal, because for most people it is not, verified across the board.
Prove what? I know normal and rational people that got Covid, verified by tests, and lost their sense of taste and smell for months. They’re the kind of people that’d probably be on this site. Wasn’t all that bad for them but it was indeed not like the flus they’ve ever had in many regards.
I also know one lady that claims to have gotten Covid and lost most of her sight and ability to walk and has been half bed ridden for a year that I’m 99% certain is just crazy or making a disability play.
I don’t disagree that many of the deaths, maybe even most, were probably not from Covid.
I’ve known some people that got it and it was unlike any flu they’ve had in some ways. It wasn’t at all bad for them, but there were distinct symptoms they’ve never had when sick before that lingered on at times after, such as the smell and taste thing.
I do think plenty of cases are just the flu though. We could probably cut the number of cases in half and just call it the flu and that’s being generous.
What does that actually mean in context though?
I'm sure there's some new variant of things that is Covid since many of the symptoms and treatment are distinct from the normal flu, like loss of smell and taste and things like that. There's no way it's just a rebranded flu. That said, it's probably not very common, and the flu is thrown in alongside that to make it seem more common than it is.
Considering the flu kills children and Covid targets people already dying in most cases, I'm still more worried about the flu.
Covid's real, but I don't see any way they're not lumping the flu into this alongside it. Statistically it doesn't make sense otherwise. The alternative is that they made up all the flu numbers for years, which they somewhat admitted to last year, which isn't any more comforting if they're the same people counting Covid numbers.
Probably not. You’d already see that happening if it were true.
That’s the only reason they give a shit. They all live in private guarded mansions anyway and mingle with others that do as well, so they don’t care what happens to anyone else.
Our immigration system’s akin to the DMV, but it’s a better alternative to letting random people in whose defining criteria is that they chose to circumvent the law. At best you might get some well meaning folks that are paid slave labor wages under the table. Mexico and other countries are all kinds of fucked up. I’d rather we addressed that then exclusively let in people uninterested, or unable, to pass background checks and go through the proper channels.
I don’t think he’d be as liked if people put the picture of his pregnant victim all around. I’d rather he didn’t die that day but if you see the whole arrest, it’s hard to pin things on the officer. At best manslaughter, potentially by the department for protocols. At the very least it wasn’t racism. He was being nice to Floyd for most of it, who was clearly lying and freaking out and resisting arrest the whole time, which his blacker friends commented on. He clearly wasn’t trying to kill him because they were both pretty calm about the whole thing and he even tried being caring to Floyd during the arrest.
A giant crack head freaked the fuck out and died and he was trying to be nice and got caught in a bad video and they used that to pretend there’s a race war going on.
I think it’s more than that. China didn’t plan all this shit, though they’re trying to take advantage like everyone else. Social media made most people lose their minds, on top of now having the hubris to think that we have instant access to an all knowing god of ‘Science’ which is really just click bait journalists and politicians doing what’s best for them.
The real issue with masks and these barriers isn’t that they’re pushing for them, but that people are doing it like lemmings. Tell everyone to wear a diaper on their face in 1900 and it’s not going to happen. Tell everyone now and they’ll show up wearing two or three.
People that do that shit the most are on social media the most. I check forums like this and hear some podcasts and look into something if I’m interested but I don’t think I’ve ever even read an article or something on Facebook or anything like that.
The outdoor dining they have at places is the most hilarious. You go in a restaurant and sit down and take off your mask and eat, or you sit in a box on the street or in the parking lot and take off your mask and eat. Meanwhile there have been no recorded outbreaks surrounding any restaurant to my knowledge, anywhere.
I voted for Barry both times, and although Romney was also establishment, Barry is a giant fucking liar. He failed and had no choice but to play the race card and we’re living in the aftermath of that. He deeply entrenched the party and corrupted a giant portion of politics. I used to say he wasn’t the worst president ever despite being up there, but given what we’re dealing with now, I’d rank him as the worst.
If I could I’d make military service mandatory and a requirement to vote. It’d solve many problems.
Vaccine’s no joke. I ended up going to the hospital after complications from my second dose. I was backed into a corner and made my choice, but damn is the vaccine seemingly worse than Covid. At least the Moderna one I took.