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“If AI isn’t profitable, why are companies still investing in it” because the end goal at this point is likely not profit and that should make everybody worried (media.scored.co)
posted 1 day ago by Mrexreturns 1 day ago by Mrexreturns +31 / -0
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– Mrexreturns [S] 13 points 1 day ago +13 / -0

A common misconception is that a lot of these elites/oligarches fuck with humanity for profit.

But usually, they do not and they will not care.

It is a RELIGIOUS MISSION, and they will devastate all of humanity and rule over the remains of society as a Gods.

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– Leporidae 3 points 23 hours ago +3 / -0

AI will speed up and complete the research on curing aging and disease. Everyone pouring infinite money into AI know this, regardless of whether they acknowledge it in public. They are most likely not wrong.

As for all the questions about what they'll do with this and what the consequences will be, I'll leave as an exercise for the reader.

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– Mrexreturns [S] 6 points 22 hours ago +6 / -0

The elites won't use it for medical research.

They will use it to clog up search engine algorithms with shit and then use it to create sentient landmines, spycams and bomb collars.

They will use it to record the information of every single human in the world so they could be slaughtered llke cattle when the globalists force collectivized lifestyles on all of humanity.

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– Leporidae 2 points 21 hours ago +2 / -0

That doesn't cure their cancer or Alzheimer's or age-induced incontinence. I don't think the "elites" give much of a fuck about "us" either way. Most people on average don't give much of a fuck about random strangers they'll never interact with. Most people who claim otherwise lie.

But if the elites pin their hope on something saving their lives, and perceive you as getting in the way, then yeah all of a sudden they are going to form strong and very specific opinions.

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– BadManOrange 2 points 12 hours ago +2 / -0

AI uses probability to figure out the most likely answer to a problem based on existing information. That doesn't necessarily mean it will generate something completely new. Many inventions in history were accidental discoveries or countless iterations of trial and error. So, I do question how effective it will be at making new discoveries.

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– Jalapeno_gringo 8 points 1 day ago +8 / -0

Profit is always anticipated. Many companies are not profitable for decades.

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– cyberrigger 6 points 23 hours ago +6 / -0

why

GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES

See Also: Wind farms

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– Michalusmichalus 3 points 21 hours ago +3 / -0

The Burning Mills Farm near me just had a windmill fire last week. I still can't stop laughing.

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– Another_rando 5 points 23 hours ago +5 / -0

AI is profitable

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– cyberrigger 3 points 19 hours ago +3 / -0

AI is so profitable that Microsoft had to take it out of Windows 11 ----- because no one wanted it.

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– Another_rando 1 point 18 hours ago +1 / -0

Doesn't matter. Claude can code a design. Agents do regular work flows. This is just to tip of the iceberg. Trust common sense, AI is not a failing fad

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– cyberrigger 3 points 23 hours ago +3 / -0

So were wind farms ---- on the taxpayer's dime

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– Another_rando 2 points 18 hours ago +2 / -0

Ya, AI is profitable though. People cost more. AI will get cheaper and cheaper

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– cyberrigger 3 points 16 hours ago +3 / -0

Self checkout systems are being removed ---- because they were more profitable.

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– Another_rando 2 points 13 hours ago +2 / -0

They are also not being removed

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– cyberrigger 2 points 13 hours ago +2 / -0

Walmart officially calls end to self-checkouts at store as it plans to remodel 650 locations

https://www.reddit.com/r/Walmartcustomer/comments/1t2h7v2/walmart_officially_calls_end_to_selfcheckouts_at/

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– Another_rando 2 points 13 hours ago +2 / -0

Wow, 650 stores. No more self check and that means AI is not going to take the white collar jobs. Ok

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– cyberrigger 2 points 13 hours ago +2 / -0

Please note that 'self checkout' still uses a human.

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– BadManOrange 2 points 12 hours ago +2 / -0

Probably eventually, but integration of AI in consumer products doesn't necessarily sell new units, it's just a new and eventually expected feature that keeps you competitive. So short of extensive robotic usage or getting to the point of AI being able to make new discoveries (which I'm skeptical of), you mainly have the big owners of the tech making money selling it to everyone and then cost cutting everywhere else.

Then cost cutting leads to job losses and less money flowing through the economy and a collapse unless business find new ways to generate jobs or they increase wages for existing workers and half the work force (ahem) drops out.

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– Another_rando 2 points 11 hours ago +2 / -0

Economic collapse is the means to their UBI goal. They also need people that accept a lower standard of living. "Luckily" (for them) Europe, US and Canada have a plethora of immigration and a generation of servants to deliver their food, valet their cars, etc. Don't need the middle or upper middle to develop things anymore

From here, AI can be used by humans to advance discovery, but remember the discovery is curated so that it's mostly just releasing new forms of weapons, like veganism, and cancer treatments on us. real discovery is not permitted anyway. Like exploring past the 60th south and over the ice wall, AI can do it, but nooooo. And no works on discovering how to balance boyant forces with frequency, or we could all fly with low energy expenditure. Etc etc. ya, this place isn't what we are all told and most of us still believe.

AI is profitable for the short term and the even more for the long term, because it will be wealth gap larger realitive to a poorer population on UBI. Entrepreneurship opportunity is always the way up, and will be easier for non screen addicts, raised by ambitious outside the box thinkers. Everyone else is pretty much fuct

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– bluewhiteandred 4 points 21 hours ago +4 / -0

meh, I think they're just operating like tech companies have in the past: trying to become popular and sacrificing profits temporarily in hopes they win out as the popular one and become profitable in the future - so it's kind of like a game of musical chairs

Twitter (now X) took more than a decade to achieve its first annual profit. Founded in 2006 and going public in 2013, the company struggled with monetization despite massive user growth.

In stark contrast, Meta (formerly Facebook) was profitable almost immediately. Founded in 2004, the company began generating profits just four years later in 2008.

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– free-will-of-choice 3 points 1 day ago +3 / -0

the end goal...is likely not profit

Profit implies "to set forth"...few utilize AI to shape artificial end goals as to distract many from being set forth within nature.

at this point

If nature moves, then "this" can only ever be a sentence aka the sentience of being.

a lot of these elites

Few cast many into a lot (consensus)...choosing to join a lot makes the one casting it elite (selected by choice).

they do not and they will not care.

Because caring implies carrying a self inflicted burden which few trick many into doing to themselves.

it's a religious mission

Mission implies nature sending forth free will of choice...religion implies choosing to bind self to another.

rule over

Only within rule/reg (to move in a straight line) can balance (over/under) bring choice into being.

A gentile choosing to bow down doesn't rise up any jew. Nobody else can overrule ones free will of choice, but free will of choice is so omnipotent that it can hold itself in submission to everyone else.

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– CrazyRussian 3 points 18 hours ago +3 / -0

For a long time this game is not about any profit as in "gain some revenue with real labour creating and selling real things people need". Not even close. It is about stocks gambling, nothing more. All this investments is only about gambling on the stocks market in the hope to sell stocks to vegetables timely, just before the crash, or sell company to some BigCorp for billions, in the exactly same game of BigCorps who will then announce Great Purchase of Very Promising Business, their stocks will jump and very special people will make their money. Then, when everybody will forget, with high probability this business, purchased for billions, will be just silently closed or dissolved in this BigCorp swamp.

Who the hell need to make or create anything real and useful when you have stock exchanges?

If you like, assume "profit" in similar questions about overhyped things is nothing more that personal profit of stock gamblers, and then everything become very clear and simple.

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– Michalusmichalus 3 points 21 hours ago +3 / -0

The work forums say it's an excuse for layoffs so C suits can get the highest bonus they can before they move to the next company to ruin. As an aside US business degrees aren't accepted worldwide anymore specifically because they learn the Toys R Us method as being acceptable.

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– FuckYourBullshit 2 points 18 hours ago +2 / -0

AI is profitable. In the long term. The idea that every product put to market must be there to make money is simply poor people too stupid to understand anything more difficult that buying a stick of gum.

The concept of Loss Leaders has been around for a long time. Even more that if a product is unprofitable for X number of years, so long as the company can weather than, the profit gained after that point will make it more than worth it.

Most products in the initial sale period are just trying to recoup development costs, the difference is that unlike a movie or video gane where we have a general understanding of that initial sale period, software like AI is more complex and that period may be a few years not weeks

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– cyberrigger 1 point 17 hours ago +1 / -0

AI is profitable. In the long term.

AI is profitable. In the short term.

When the hardware gets cheap ---- everyone will have it, nothing to sell you.

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– FuckYourBullshit 1 point 16 hours ago +1 / -0

Then they aren't selling AI to you, they are selling it to other companies to package it in. You aren't buying a back up camera for your car. Companies like Bosch or Panasonic, sell them to the auto manufacturers who put them in their cars and then that gets added as a feature which raises the price.

So people complaining about the cost and value of AI are the exact type of people that don't have any skin in the game and never will because they are not and never were the customer base. The AI companies will sell their models to other businesses who don't want to make it themselves once it's proven to do the things that they want. Right now big companies are doing so but eventually when it gets better, smaller stores will get it for whatever need they think it fills.

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– cyberrigger 2 points 16 hours ago +2 / -0

Then they aren't selling AI to you, they are selling it to other companies to package it in

I use Linux.

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– FuckYourBullshit 2 points 16 hours ago +2 / -0

And I'm sure all the websites, ISP and companies you shop at also use Linux. Because for example, Casinos have been using stuff like Pokerstars and Facefirst to identify banned players and cheaters the moment they step out of their vehicles in the parking lot to alert security so they don't even get in the door. And that's been going on for over twenty years at this point.

The early facial recognition programs will just be updated with AI, and more and more businesses will have them where you walk in and the security camera pulls up information about you and if you steal at one store, then every store will be updated with this information.

And that's only one way they can do it. The idea that you will just be able to not participate is laughable at best. It's like those people who call themselves Free Citizens or some stupid shit thinking they don't have to go to court because they rejected paying taxes.

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– cyberrigger 2 points 16 hours ago +2 / -0

software free ---- you pay people to utilize it ---- just ask the Google Brothers.

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– IGOexiled 2 points 12 hours ago +2 / -0

Because they owe interest on the interest and you gotta make minimum payments or the whole Bernie Madoff comes toppling down.

I wonder how they're going to come clean that they achieved maximum LLM usefulness like 3 years ago and there's nowhere else to go with it other than just swap context embeddings behind the scenes.

Some of it is to collapse industry. They secure RAM contracts and start moving silicon, but..

Inb4 the contracts fall through

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