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Fucking hell (media.conspiracies.win)
posted 243 days ago by dukey 243 days ago by dukey +21 / -3
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– deleted 7 points 243 days ago +8 / -1
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– muhqtardtho 7 points 243 days ago +7 / -0

The fact anybody believes anything posted at face value says enough about the population.

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– Jalapeno_gringo 2 points 243 days ago +2 / -0

Everyone is lying when it comes to the middle east

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– Primate98 5 points 243 days ago +5 / -0

Another angle for the very deep divers, also xD-chess-adjacent: was the whole thing phony? IOW, was it a psyop on those we're usually psyopped by? If so, it would indicate the Yemeni military also cooperated, and all this would have to take place silently at the highest levels.

Everyone can decide what they wish to believe by examining all the evidence for signs of a hoax, but you should also check out this story from The Western Journal (which is in the mainstream of alternative media, if that makes any sense):

Trump Posts Video: 'Houthis' Gather for 'Instructions,' Seconds Later There's Just a Crater Where They Stood (4/5/2025)

The thing is, it appears that the author--either consciously or unconsciously--is not quite buying that this whole story is legit. Words and phrases indicating that are scattered liberally throughout, and it's quite obvious when your radar is on for them:

  • "purports"
  • "implying"
  • "noted"
  • "apparently"
  • "not been independently verified"
  • "lack of a date"
  • "similarly missing"
  • "No location for it was mentioned, either."

So what would be the chess angle? Zillions of people, including many MAGA types, are absolutely convinced that Iran is the big nuclear boogeyman and the Houthis are their terrorist puppets. They're beaten over the mind relentlessly with this. The big dumb US military also feels bad about getting their asses kicked in the Red Sea for reasons beyond their comprehension.

If Trump doesn't say and do something about this, They will give him the old "soft on crime" and "exposing the nation to danger" lines in just the manner Goering told us. So Trump "does something".

It was a judo move, basically: just add too much of what your opponent is trying to do. The countermoves are not attractive. They can defend those that they daily condemn as terrorists. They can plead for pacifism and dialogue. They can recommend that the US pull out of the Red Sea and the entire Middle East. IOW, They can curbstomp Their entire program. They most assuredly will not give us the truth and call it out as fake.

I predict "They" will now just let this all go until everyone forgets what happened and--most vitally--stops trying to figure out why.

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– hootersmcboobies 1 point 243 days ago +1 / -0

I wouldn't put it past the US/CIA to make this into a psyop. The strike video does look like the same area in the photos (tree, nearby structures, etc.) But ... where are the photos of the aftermath? Someone took that photo from a distance. If they were killed, who recovered the camera? Why didn't they take more photos of the aftermath then?

I don't think it matters if the official story is true. Even if this is fake, if this is what the Orange Man administration is claiming, it's fucking idiotic. It's so much more likely they kill a bunch of civilians than any militant group, just looking at a surface level.

Go the full Ron Paul route: why the fuck are we bombing anyone in this region extra judicially? Any way you possibly look at this makes things worse for America. The hardcore MAGAs will double down and say that some more war for enemies of Israel is totally a-okey-dokie.

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– Primate98 2 points 242 days ago +2 / -0

I'm a fan of Ron Paul, but a thought occurred to me the other day: in his long career as a truther (of a sort) he has never said something like,

"Hey everyone, you know you simply cannot take at face value what you see in the news and the history books. Stories, photos, and even videos can all be faked, and it gets easier every day. It's not that everything is phony==far from it-- but you should always be allowing for that possibility. You need to be willing to examine it for yourself, or at least be acutely aware that you're taking someone else's word that it's real."

Personally, I conclude that Ron himself does not actually think this way. And I further conclude that that, in itself, is a weakness and a failure of a sort.

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– wtfppl 1 point 242 days ago +1 / -0

I remember RP almost a decade ago saying something along those lines. Said something like; media is owned by a few people and should not be taken as 'the truth'.

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– Primate98 3 points 242 days ago +3 / -0

There's a finer but vital point.

I was just recalling how controversial the whole "grab 'em by the pussy" incident was. Only one person I'm aware of, Jim Stone, suggested it was faked. Given that it came from a member of the Bush family, was recorded by a "hot mic" then saved and only released many years after the fact, not making sense as a phrase in common use or practical application, required only the alteration of one word, and seeing the phenomenal technological progress in A/V fakery since then, it is as close to a "conspiracy" slam dunk as you can get.

Although I'm sure there are a few somewhere, no conspiracy theorist I ever saw accepted that thesis. The story has since then become more bedrock a "fact" than the Moon landings. So what precisely is going on?

It's one thing for Ron Paul to suggest that the media is biased. People may agree or disagree, but at least they get what's being claimed. Trump hits far closer to the mark when he calls something "fake news". No public figures come out and say, "You aren't living in the Matrix with a cable in the back of your head, but your Reality is--in many respects--just as artificial. Here are some examples...."

To be frank, I don't think Ron Paul is actually aware of the things I've just said, but I think Trump is.

Further, as we can see, it has been easier to convince many conspiracy theorists that they are, in fact, living in the Matrix with a cable in the back of their heads.

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– hootersmcboobies 2 points 242 days ago +2 / -0

I think people like Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich and even Mike Gravel were/are all keenly aware of the deception in the media. There are interviews here and there where they skirt around things.

But they are also all senators/congressmen who have to play that very fine line to stay within public discourse and not be seen as wacky. Alex Jones can get away with it because he may or may not be a CIA asset.

...or maybe I'm wrong and they're totally duped too, or unknowingly live in a duality of their own minds. It's tough to say.

I think Trump Derangement Syndrome runs both ways. That "assassination" attempt was staged as hell and Orange Man is so vain he didn't even let people surgically remove a realistic chunk of his ear to make the thing believable ... and yet the MAGA cult believes it.

I just think we've been in a 12 year long WWE/WWF match and Orange Man is going to make all his supporters own nothing and be happy about it. MAGA-retards like Tim Poolboy are praising the current stock crash. Soon they'll be clamoring for a Digital Dollar, but "no this one isn't a CBDC! It's fine and libertarian because it's Private!"

Going back to Ron Paul, at least right now he's totally opposing the absolutely stupid shit that Republicans are doing and not holding party lines. But maybe that doesn't even really mean anything at this point. 🤷‍♂️

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– Primate98 3 points 242 days ago +3 / -0

I have found that what actually goes on in the vast majority of people's minds--they way they actually work--is more subtle than that they are duped on various issues.

That is, "duped" implies that there is some information hidden from them, and that if they were made aware of that information, the true situation would become clear. That does not seem to be how it works in almost any situation.

To go back to the original post and incident, the question is how many people, when hearing about it, asked themselves whether it was real or fake? That's basically a rhetorical question and you can come up with any answer that pleases you.

If I was to answer the question and give evidence that even one single person besides myself evaluated it on that basis, I could not produce a single shred. Whether or not anyone agrees that it was fake is not the point, it is whether the question even formed in their mind.

Taking the purported incident in Yemen, I would assume that anyone who had a strong reaction to it also believes that to some extent Trump is a liar. So why didn't they ask themselves whether Trump was lying about this? Because they saw in what was presented to them that which they wanted to see and reacted to it in the way their subconscious dictated. That's how it really works, apparently.

So as I summarize the whole situation, I would characterize it not as people being duped, but as living within a level of consciousness where they create their own reality, rather than always seeking the truth. Of course, seeking the truth means you often find out how wrong you were, and that's the last thing people want.

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– wtfppl 1 point 236 days ago +1 / -0

Have you watched "Prison-Planet" interviews with '(D)-Georgia House Representative, Cynthia McKinney' expose the AIPAC and who is behind them?

She did this more than a decade ago, so lots of people have likely not seen it. See if I can locate it for you...

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– Thisisnotanexit 3 points 243 days ago +4 / -1

I saw the video, pretty crazy. Wonder if they'll blow me up too or if I need to wait for the beheading 🤔

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– TurnToGodNow 1 point 234 days ago +1 / -0

The beast presents itself as a lamb but speaks like a dragon. You can probably find more warmth and compassion in some nomadic tribe in Yemen than America in it's most liberal "progressive" cities.

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– deleted 1 point 242 days ago +2 / -1
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– MysteriousFedKnight 1 point 241 days ago +1 / -0

You get ships all around a fucking oversea country but people planning to defend their sovereignity are the enemy, amiright?

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– deleted 1 point 241 days ago +1 / -0
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– MysteriousFedKnight 1 point 241 days ago +1 / -0

It's their country. If they don't want to trade with you, or let you pass, get a fucking clue. No one owe freepass to anybody else, fucking imperialist dictator bitch. Fuck you. You just decided innocent people have to die for your comfort. Hope a rocket strikes your children tomorrow.

'oh my god this free country is denying us passage that would be convienient, kill them all' no, die yourself. With all your retarded family. The sooner the better. I hope you get cancer along with everyone related to you. Freedom hater.

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– deleted 1 point 241 days ago +1 / -0
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– MysteriousFedKnight 1 point 241 days ago +1 / -0

So you are willing to destroy other people because it's justified by your comfort. Yes, you are not going to like either, but you must be destroyed yourself. You are a danger to freedom, i hope you simply die painfully. Easy. People who ignore other people rights should have no rights. No brainer.

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– deleted 1 point 241 days ago +1 / -0
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– MysteriousFedKnight 1 point 212 days ago +1 / -0

They have the right to use violence to defend their territory which it is. Nice rethorics

They don't agree to gaza treatment, they know the usa ships are allied of israel, why would they let them through. That would be traitorous.

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– MagnumLife -1 points 242 days ago +1 / -2

Don't care. Less foreign militant ragheads = good.

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– WeedleTLiar 8 points 243 days ago +9 / -1

Why are there Americans in Yemen?

I thought Trump was supposed to be "America First"? WTF does Yemen have to do with America?

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– Jalapeno_gringo 5 points 243 days ago +5 / -0

I think the point of his comment is that we get or send very little through the Suez canal. Let Europe deal with Europe's problems. We always get drug into their drama and we need to get them off the US tit

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– Jalapeno_gringo 2 points 243 days ago +2 / -0

I have no issue with that, I just don't believe the United States should be leading the charge

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– Jalapeno_gringo 2 points 243 days ago +2 / -0

No argument there

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– Jalapeno_gringo 1 point 243 days ago +1 / -0

That region only respects "the strong horse"

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– TurnToGodNow 1 point 234 days ago +1 / -0

You folks greenlit the decimation of their country by backing the Saudis and of course saying nothing to stop it. Don't act like this happened in a vacuum and these people randomly want to stop global trade.

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– TurnToGodNow 1 point 234 days ago +1 / -0

So by "us" you mean the Israeli entity that controls congress or the Saudis who help prop up the petro dollar? Because other than those two countries "we" have nothing to do with Yemen.

This "us" you are talking about is the biggest terror sponsor in the region, and at home. They literally did 9/11 to justify the "war on terror" itself. Yet you serve them.

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– TurnToGodNow 1 point 234 days ago +1 / -0

Wait, didn't the US first help the Saudis decimate and starve their country?

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