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Fucking hell (media.conspiracies.win)
posted 242 days ago by dukey 242 days ago by dukey +21 / -3
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– hootersmcboobies 1 point 242 days ago +1 / -0

I wouldn't put it past the US/CIA to make this into a psyop. The strike video does look like the same area in the photos (tree, nearby structures, etc.) But ... where are the photos of the aftermath? Someone took that photo from a distance. If they were killed, who recovered the camera? Why didn't they take more photos of the aftermath then?

I don't think it matters if the official story is true. Even if this is fake, if this is what the Orange Man administration is claiming, it's fucking idiotic. It's so much more likely they kill a bunch of civilians than any militant group, just looking at a surface level.

Go the full Ron Paul route: why the fuck are we bombing anyone in this region extra judicially? Any way you possibly look at this makes things worse for America. The hardcore MAGAs will double down and say that some more war for enemies of Israel is totally a-okey-dokie.

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– Primate98 2 points 242 days ago +2 / -0

I'm a fan of Ron Paul, but a thought occurred to me the other day: in his long career as a truther (of a sort) he has never said something like,

"Hey everyone, you know you simply cannot take at face value what you see in the news and the history books. Stories, photos, and even videos can all be faked, and it gets easier every day. It's not that everything is phony==far from it-- but you should always be allowing for that possibility. You need to be willing to examine it for yourself, or at least be acutely aware that you're taking someone else's word that it's real."

Personally, I conclude that Ron himself does not actually think this way. And I further conclude that that, in itself, is a weakness and a failure of a sort.

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– wtfppl 1 point 241 days ago +1 / -0

I remember RP almost a decade ago saying something along those lines. Said something like; media is owned by a few people and should not be taken as 'the truth'.

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– Primate98 3 points 241 days ago +3 / -0

There's a finer but vital point.

I was just recalling how controversial the whole "grab 'em by the pussy" incident was. Only one person I'm aware of, Jim Stone, suggested it was faked. Given that it came from a member of the Bush family, was recorded by a "hot mic" then saved and only released many years after the fact, not making sense as a phrase in common use or practical application, required only the alteration of one word, and seeing the phenomenal technological progress in A/V fakery since then, it is as close to a "conspiracy" slam dunk as you can get.

Although I'm sure there are a few somewhere, no conspiracy theorist I ever saw accepted that thesis. The story has since then become more bedrock a "fact" than the Moon landings. So what precisely is going on?

It's one thing for Ron Paul to suggest that the media is biased. People may agree or disagree, but at least they get what's being claimed. Trump hits far closer to the mark when he calls something "fake news". No public figures come out and say, "You aren't living in the Matrix with a cable in the back of your head, but your Reality is--in many respects--just as artificial. Here are some examples...."

To be frank, I don't think Ron Paul is actually aware of the things I've just said, but I think Trump is.

Further, as we can see, it has been easier to convince many conspiracy theorists that they are, in fact, living in the Matrix with a cable in the back of their heads.

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– hootersmcboobies 2 points 241 days ago +2 / -0

I think people like Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich and even Mike Gravel were/are all keenly aware of the deception in the media. There are interviews here and there where they skirt around things.

But they are also all senators/congressmen who have to play that very fine line to stay within public discourse and not be seen as wacky. Alex Jones can get away with it because he may or may not be a CIA asset.

...or maybe I'm wrong and they're totally duped too, or unknowingly live in a duality of their own minds. It's tough to say.

I think Trump Derangement Syndrome runs both ways. That "assassination" attempt was staged as hell and Orange Man is so vain he didn't even let people surgically remove a realistic chunk of his ear to make the thing believable ... and yet the MAGA cult believes it.

I just think we've been in a 12 year long WWE/WWF match and Orange Man is going to make all his supporters own nothing and be happy about it. MAGA-retards like Tim Poolboy are praising the current stock crash. Soon they'll be clamoring for a Digital Dollar, but "no this one isn't a CBDC! It's fine and libertarian because it's Private!"

Going back to Ron Paul, at least right now he's totally opposing the absolutely stupid shit that Republicans are doing and not holding party lines. But maybe that doesn't even really mean anything at this point. 🤷‍♂️

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