Thinking would require an inner voice. Otherwise they're just reacting.
I'm not convinced people 'with no inner voice' exist. Maybe actual retarded people. It's like the airplane taking off from a treadmill question, people are confused about what's being asked.
Do I hear 'other voices' no, can I think to myself without talking, of course. Everyone does.
I've read enough of those Reddit threads to know they exist. The study was done with prisoners because they were able to find the most in one place. They don't think about how what they do effects others at much higher rates. They also can't think steps ahead.
A long time ago someone asked me "if you put a human brain in a pig and raised it from birth as a pig, would it be capable of human levels of conciousness and reasoning? Or would the mind mould to fit its environment (I.e. human potential is lost and it will remain a pig forever)?
I think people without monologues care raised without learning how to reason so there's no need to develooe a monologue.
I just started reading Dune (despite reading a ton in general) and that tracks with the way the BGs use the term "humans".
That said, seems like a lot of extra work to do when you can just run some MSM articles that prompt the NPCs to bleat about how cool they are for not being able to actually formulate thoughts.
If you have an inner voice, if can be irritating when the topic comes up because suddenly you're narrating in your mind. Reddit threads cull of yes vs no are insane with the number of no's
I dont think so, If you ask a person with a monologue they look at you like your stupid say "yeah, it wont shut up".
Ask someone without they look at you like have two heads and say "umm no?" Cause they cant imagine. The idea is crazy.
My deaf ex said it's pictures in her head and when she dreams they communicate telepathically instead of signing or writing in a notebook/phone. Always thought that was interesting.
Sooooo. They never read the study about inner voices. This is what they think is normal. Notice it cites reddit threads. There have been many.
https://www.iflscience.com/people-with-no-internal-monologue-explain-what-its-like-in-their-head-57739
It cannot be coincidental that someone with no inner monologue has no idea what they're talking about 🤣
Thinking before they speak seems to be impossible too.
Thinking would require an inner voice. Otherwise they're just reacting.
I'm not convinced people 'with no inner voice' exist. Maybe actual retarded people. It's like the airplane taking off from a treadmill question, people are confused about what's being asked.
Do I hear 'other voices' no, can I think to myself without talking, of course. Everyone does.
I've read enough of those Reddit threads to know they exist. The study was done with prisoners because they were able to find the most in one place. They don't think about how what they do effects others at much higher rates. They also can't think steps ahead.
I want to know how they read in their head.
A long time ago someone asked me "if you put a human brain in a pig and raised it from birth as a pig, would it be capable of human levels of conciousness and reasoning? Or would the mind mould to fit its environment (I.e. human potential is lost and it will remain a pig forever)?
I think people without monologues care raised without learning how to reason so there's no need to develooe a monologue.
What if just/iustus/ius/right (inception towards death) generates reactions (life)? What if right implies ones rite of passage?
What if require aka re quaerere implies ones reaction seeking something?
What if ones mind/memory reacts to everything already available?
What if seeking (suggested) tempts one to ignore available (perceivable)?
What convinced you that NO; NOT; NOTHING can exist?
Actual/action implies motion; retardation aka re tardo (delayed response)...what if retardation implies ones delayed response (life) to motion (inception towards death)?
This still blows my mind. NPCs are a danger to real humans and need to be eliminated IMO.
This is the purpose of the Gom Jabbar test.
I just started reading Dune (despite reading a ton in general) and that tracks with the way the BGs use the term "humans".
That said, seems like a lot of extra work to do when you can just run some MSM articles that prompt the NPCs to bleat about how cool they are for not being able to actually formulate thoughts.
Some of us have great instincts, but we were taught to ignore them because it was weird as a child. relearning how to listen is very difficult.
First three dune books are pretty solid.
I have thought that people who say they don't have an inner voice are just misunderstanding the question.
Just seems so weird that they have nothing going on at all.
Even if it's not a "voice" as such how do people even think thoughts?
If you have an inner voice, if can be irritating when the topic comes up because suddenly you're narrating in your mind. Reddit threads cull of yes vs no are insane with the number of no's
I dont think so, If you ask a person with a monologue they look at you like your stupid say "yeah, it wont shut up". Ask someone without they look at you like have two heads and say "umm no?" Cause they cant imagine. The idea is crazy.
My deaf ex said it's pictures in her head and when she dreams they communicate telepathically instead of signing or writing in a notebook/phone. Always thought that was interesting.