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Does Russia does this stuff? I think most of the west does this with various foods. Maybe China and other authoritarian countries, as well. (twitter.com)
posted 2 years ago by Lippy68 2 years ago by Lippy68 +17 / -0
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– CrazyRussian 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

We have no quotas on production. Small farmers usually sell raw milk to processing factories, also could sell raw milk and diary to people locally. Large companies have their own processing of raw milk. Processed and packed milk then goes to distributors - groceries and supermarket networks. All milk above demand from distributors processed ito diary products - cheese, yogurts, cream, butter, really we have a lot more diary products I don't know how to name in English - кефир, простокваша, варенец, творог, сметана, ряженка and so on. I tried dictionaries, but translation usually unsatisfactory, mainly all ends with cheese/yogurt. So try to translate by yourself, but f.e. "kefir" is no way "yogurt" and "tvorog" is in no way "cheese" - different process, bacteria culture, taste and nutrients.

Also there is dried milk and condensed milk (сгущёнка) that is long-lasting products and part of state food reserve and also military food reserves that should be continuously restocked, since that products are long-lasting (up to 10 years), but are not eternal.

So, if milk market is full, excess milk here just processed into other products.

Of course there is a problems here and there, with buyout prices on raw milk, processing plants and large agricultural holdings trying to pay minimum to independent farmers, with attempts of monopolisation and takeover of holdings over independent farmers, strict quality control from state department with all that corruption, and so on, but we don't have any quotas on any agricultural production. May be famines of the past and times of deficit on USSR fall make throwing out good food kind of inapropriate behaviour or taboo for us. Even cases of destroying contraband, but decent quality food by customs (after the "countersanctions" of 2014 that limited some food import from Europe) rised a waves of indignation and such practice was either hid either terminated.

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– conspiracymane 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I'm glad that you mentioned 'Kefir', as that is what I was going to suggest when you stated that, ''you didn't know how to translate". We have a 100+ year old Kefir starter out of Russia, that our family labels as ''LIQUID GOLD!" (Sorry if that is a run on sentence)

Oh and BTW - We ONLY make it with RAW milk!

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– CrazyRussian 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Yes, you need raw milk to make most home-made diary. Pasterised milk or restored from dried milk usually sold in supermarkets will not work in most cases.

You hardly will be able to make even tvorog from processed milk with long shelf life. Tvorog translated as cottage cheese or dutch cheese, but it is somewhat different - instead of some special bacterial culture or animal ferment you put a piece of fresh sourdough rye bread into raw cow milk as a starter, it curdle into beads in day or two at home temperature, then you filter that curd with fabric and it is ready. Slightly sour milk is fine for making tvorog too, so it is a common way to use surplus milk that start to sour.

Home kefir starter culture is transferred from generation to generation in families here too. Interesting, that different lines of starter have different taste. Industrial kefir culture is standard so mass-produced kefir you usually buy in supermarket or grocery will be more or less same, but homemade or farmers kefir will have range of flavours.

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– conspiracymane 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Ty for the info. They say the mother\starter we HAVE Has hundreds if not thousands of healthy but undiscovered bacterias.

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– AuntieSamItis 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Not sure where they got $7 per litre from. A gallon definitely is not $25 in Canada.

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– WeedleTLiar 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Might be for higher quality?

I think 2% is a little north of $5 per litre, and butter is $7 a pound.

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– AuntieSamItis 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

You need to buy your milk somewhere different. I'm in BC and I buy from a herd share so I pay a lot for raw milk. But you should easily find milk in stores for 2-3$ per litre max.

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– Primate98 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I always laugh when someone criticizes "capitalism". They really have no clue what actually goes on in a "capitalist" society.

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– Ep0ch 3 points 2 years ago +4 / -1

It's a capitalist corporate trend. The EU and America do this frequently. It would be laughable if it was just food. No it's the freaking EV model. It's everything. Yes entire swine flu bird flu outbreaks etc constantly just to cause inflation. Drive the price higher. They do it with dairy products constantly milk cheese butter cream. Grains, produce, meats. Name it. Everything.

Those food corps are all making multi-billions since the prices soared. Like the energy companies and banks backing them.

Until it becomes sabotage and worse. What did Ukraine cause.

That farmer has to milk to dump it. Quotas. Supposed profit. Binary. On/off. Excess, waste. Computer management. A freaking spreadsheet on the stockmarket, a bureaucrat, a Corporate Ceo. The farmer cannot sell his milk anywhere else. Basically corporate owned, a supply line, distributing, no permits outside of it. No licensing. Debt. Regulation. It cannot stop exploiting the conveyor belt cattle. The farm cannot pasture them, they're battery cows, no land space, and further regulation, medicine, land usage, waste, they cannot breed, or sell the meat. It's a dairy farm, regulated, until it is franchised into debt for the assumed profit, taxes, it makes, getting subsidies, until it is owned by the supply lines, forced into distribution and regulation. No sooner do they cause a disease where it culls those cattle regardless simply to keep the prices high and create shortages.

At least you've got a litre of milk on the table. At a price that has increased by a third. Hey guys it was Ukraine's fault. It caused the shortages? Food prices are so much higher because Ukraine made your cows

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– Neo1 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

The "quota" is just a way to control production.

How about the US in recent years?

  • https://www.bitchute.com/video/mEip3sePdptO/

  • https://www.bitchute.com/video/UauTYevudbji/

  • https://www.bitchute.com/video/NFzO1Uc3yhWe/

Unfortunately, they are trying to starve everyone...

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– WeedleTLiar 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Not really "regulations" (although the feds forced the destruction of a couple million pounds of potatoes last winter for a cosmetic blight) but quotas.

The Dairy Farmers of Ontario (but not really) set caps on production to keep demand high. They are literally a cartel and, rather than use excess milk for cheese or high quality low quantity products, they just make farmers flush it to keep prices high.

This is the first thing I show to any environmentalist/poverty advocate before I'll listen to any of their shit.

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– ArcaneSlang 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

This video is quite old. Obedient little farmer isn’t he. Wouldn’t want to upset his overlords.

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