ATTENTION: Calling all Flat Earther FREAKS!!!
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There wasn't much in this video about flat earth except a tid bit at the end.
The video was interesting, nevertheless. But it failed to focus on one core subject.
This forum is hostile toward flat earth theorists. Count me as someone who finds flat earth theories interesting. I like to listen to the theories and consider both sides of the debate. I am not one to mock flat earth theorists. I am not 100% convinced the planet is a spinning globe. I am not convinced it is flat either. I admit I do not know for sure. The globe theory makes sense to me but it also is something I'm not able to prove on my own. Plus NASA seems very deceptive to me. The moon landings seem very fake to me and I do believe there is lots of hidden knowledge about what these UFO's really are, what satellite technology really is, etc. I kind of find it peculiar and strange we only ever see one side of the moon. Yes there is an explanation for it but it just seems to convenient to me. Also, some of the NEW video footage from NASA looks even more fake to me than the old moon landing footage from the 60's. For example that DART project blowing up an asteroid looked fake as fuck to me. And the video footage of the astronauts with watches floating on their wrists looked like CGI editing
I like flat earth theory because it kind of forces you to relearn things from the ground up without trusting jewish published books or authority. If the world is a round sphere spinning thousands of miles per hour, how can i prove that to myself without relying on someone else's word or some deemed authority.
Maybe there are other subjects we need to relearn from the ground up, such as virology, medicine, nutrition, etc.
Your position on FE is exactly my position. There are too many deceptions and unanswered questions to simply ignore, but I am not fully convinced.
I've been researching FB for over 10 years, and it's certainly not easy to prove. For example, visible lasers over 20 miles certainly prove that the surface appears to be either flat or way larger than the official numbers suggest, but who's to say we are not on a planet that is gigantic, like 10x the size we know, and that we are trapped in some managed zone? How do orbits work? I know there are balloons up there as well, but certainly what I see traveling thousands of miles per hour across the night sky moving across the sky are not speeding balloons.
The things that we are trying to understand are things like "if everything they're telling us is real then why are they faking all the footage from me ISS?", etc. It's not to say that we can't prove the existing model is wrong in at least some ways, but we certainly can't easily prove whatever the correct model is. It's quite possible that FE is in fact a psy-op, but but that the real truth it's hiding is even weirder. If we get pigeonholed into one way of thinking and ignore inconvenient or hard to explain observations, then we will not really understand the system.
We dont need 12 threads about the subject in 3 days.
Just makes the entire forum look like flat earthers.
Ive spent way to much time doing math and programming that there is nothing that can be said to me at this point.
It may even turn out that the world is some kinda flat, or just appears that way because of how space time is wrapping around this dimension. But you couldnt convince these people that there is anymore to this reality than what they can see with their eyes.
What we experience is such a small fraction, but most of the human race is under this false impression that must be all there is.
Just like there is not much that can be said to me I guess.
I watched that video yesterday of the egg drop from space, dude who helped the youtuber was able to write his own software to control his own rocket and he never had any schooling for it. Hes just really good with math.
I wish I had money to do this kinda thing, but I cant even keep a job with the low phosphorous issues plaguing me.
I also love how I am always told flat earth isnt a religious thing, but glowie hasnt been able to link one video where the meaning of flat earth doesnt equate to them lying about god. It always ends up about god.
I stopped believing in god when my mother ended up with aids along time ago. Even at 6 years old I thought it was dumb that he would send you to hell for eternity if you were "bad".
And I honestly think anyone who really believes nuclear weapons are fake has never taken anything more than basic math or science.
Spend some time enlightening your mind, admittedly I should be doing more art or something, but ive at least been learning my math, and if im not learning math im learning some random useless information about something, I just dont consistently spinning my wheels researching the same thing day in and day out. Im trying to increase the neural pathways in my brain and this may even become more important if it turns out covid really is a bioweapon meant to give us Alzheimer's. It may not make a difference in the end, but Id rather not go insane. Im a big person and I worry I could kill a small person easily.
I read someone the other day here saying that math is the ultimate lie.
LMAO math is the only thing that I actually believe in this reality we live in. If the laws of physics didnt work, we wouldnt be here.
You have Hypophosphatemia?
Why is the sun so focused? If light is traveling millions of miles, wouldn't it disperse?
I wouldn't worry about what this forum looks like. Optics? 85% of people would call us racists, white supremacists, nazis, domestic terrorists, homophobes, extremists and other silly labels and names. Not sure if someone ridiculing me for giving flat earth theory fair consideration is going to hurt my feelings at this point.
I was really good at math too. I scored higher than 99% of test takers on those standardized tests we used to take. But if I don't use it then i lose it. I have forgotten many of the formulas and calculations and tricks we used to do in calculus and trigonometry and such. For example, how would you accurately calculate the surface area for a curved surface such as a swimming pool? We used to know how to do those calculations. We meaning me and my geeky friends with scientific calculators who advanced through all the AP (advanced placement) courses competing against each other on every quiz and test. I like math because there was an objective answer. The teacher could grade my english essay with much prejudice. The teacher had to grade 2+2=4 as correct.
First of all - Don't even read any of Definatley_A_Glowies responses that are most definatley meant to de-reail any real conspiracy discussion/topics. He is an FBI stooge with one end in mind and that is to de-rail any REAL conspiracy theories such as stolen elections and perfectly healthy people falling over dead left and right. Let's just get one thing straight - And that is that YES there is fake moon landing footage. How else were we going to beat the soviets to the moon? Yes, we faked it, and then beat them second hand. I have seen the shit footage of the flag blowing in the wind when there is no wind on the moon ect. ect. that does not mean that we haven't landed on the moon since. It's all a propaganda war. If we can land on the moon first, then we can hit them with nukes first, and vise a versa. That does not mean that Definatley_a_glowie isn't here to de-rail EVERY legit conspiracy theory, and that does not mean that, Definatley_A_Glowie doesn't work for some 3 letter agency, and that does NOT mean that we live on the back of some fucking TURTLE!
If some ancient Greek could do it over 2000 years ago, why can't you?
If the video is correct, how high is the Sun above the earth and how fast is it moving? None of the FE'ers can answer that question.
Here is how real scientists figured it out.
https://www.universetoday.com/117843/how-did-we-find-the-distance-to-the-sun/
How can you be certain if you don't know where the sun is?
I have measured the 'speed' of the sun from different places and different times and it is always the same.
Ok, what is the logic and observations that make it impossible for us to be on a globe?
Yeah I watched the Matrix too. However, I have also spent much of my life exploring the world, sailing, flying, climbing. And while I haven't been all the way around the world I have been very far north and south and am a pretty good navigator. On a clear night, with nothing more than a good clock, I can tell you my latitude and longitude, within a degree or so.
All of that navigation skill requires and proves that the earths surface is curved. At the North pole the north star is directly overhead. At the equator the NothStar is on the Horizon. that is how I tell Latitude.
Please explain how I could tell Latitude using the north star if the Earth was flat?
▼ Glowies_love_me 1 point 9 hours ago +1 / -0 I have measured the 'speed' of the sun from different places and different times and it is always the same.
Yes and that is why the FE model is falsified.
The Sun's light is parallel. If the sun was only a few thousand miles away it would be trivial with triangulation to determine its distance. So tell me exactly the Suns distance? You already said you can't and that the Sun might be a reflection, Make up your mind.
It falsifies the FE model.
You need to define 'local light'.
You seem to be confusing laser light and wavelengths with parallel light. Start by defining local light please.
Of course, a video. Why a video? Because you are unable to explain anything yourself.
That's all you can do. Make some nonsensical claims and when you are called out, you post a fucking video.
You probably call it research when you watch videos. Am I right?
I can't prove gravity exists, either.
Let something fall out of your hand. It falls down.
Congratulations. You have experimental verification for gravity.
Now what exactly is preventing you from conducting an experiment to verify the shape of the earth?
You have no idea how science works, do you?
You can observe gravity. Therefore there is gravity.
The next question then is WHAT CAUSES gravity? That's then where the scientific theories come in.
In science you always start with an observation, then you develop a hypothesis and then you verify it through experiments and formulate a conclusion.
In bullshit pseudoscience like flat earth, you start with the conclusion and then try to find things to support it. That's why you fail so badly.
For example, you claim that air gets opaque beyond a certain distance. That claim is not based on any kind of observation or evidence but you need it to be true because otherwise, you have to admit that you don't have an explanation for things not being visible which would be if the earth was flat.
Unfortunately, I already know that you won;t understand what I just explained and will most likely just reply with another video.
True. Gravity is a scientific law, millennia old. It is the phenomenon of falling, nothing more. Now gravitation - that is a very different matter and only a few centuries old.
Spot on. Though what an experiment is, how it works, and what constitutes a valid hypothesis are woefully misunderstood. Scientific illiteracy is ubiquitous.
For example, you think there is an experiment which confirms the hypothesis for how gravitation causes gravity - but there isn’t and never was.
Of course it is. The question you should be asking is why you don’t want it to be true. The air is opaque (technically translucent; ultimately effectively opaque when there is enough of it) for the same reasons the water is. Why cant you see the shark swimming out in the ocean from underwater near the shore? It’s too far away, and the water is opaque (ultimately/effectively). That’s the reason sharks “see” by their skin - they get much better range that way.
There’s nothing inherently wrong with videos (or any media, including text) - but i also prefer discussion and more or less ignore the videos (because they most often just waste time).
Air and water are different substances. Your argument is nonsensical.
That's like saying "Of course, clear glass is opaque. Look at this piece of granite. You cleary cannot look through it".
That’s just it. They couldn’t and didn’t. We were just mistaught that they could/did. The ancient greeks simply guessed.
Knowing there is a firmament and we can't leave is the main thing. I'm not going to argue with faggot Schillsteins about if the earth is flat or round.
It's not a spinning ball and we can't get to space.
NASA is fake and gay and stealing money. It always has been a money laundering scheme for the little hat gang. They are liars and theives. Always have been.
They hate God.
I love God and praise King Jesus.
hurr durr..trumpy trumpety trump.
Every faggot who disagrees with anything has to invoke the political asshattery.
"You don't like this social program? You are an obamafaggot who fucks little boys!!! Go back and suck biden's tiny dicklet!"
go fuck yourself.
It is like Godwin's law, except instead of:
as an online discussion grows longer (regardless of topic or scope), the probability of a comparison to Nazis or Adolf Hitler approaches 1.
It is:
as an online discussion grows longer (regardless of topic or scope), the probability of some jackass invoking the name Trump approaches 1.
You got to pick one here glowie.
Was it a real nuclear weapon hitting the dome. Or just 10,000lbs of tnt that they magically stuffed into a tiny rocket?
@Definatley_A_Glowie I made this post specifically for you! Feeling special yet?? I just found out this guy I'm following on Bitchute is a Flat Earther too!!! XD
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Oh hey u/Glowies_love_me. Don't mind me. I'm just over here with my bag of popcorn, watching the interpersonal spectacle of forum in fighting taking place due to nothing publicly happening on the topics we research.
In particular, I wish to see you address the retort of "college educated fuckboy", I want to see how you interpret that, and what motivations you think are behind such a vulgar and simplistic statement.
Lets all talk about our feelings, and open up on topics of our personal life. Shall we? Freedom from Logic.
Funny thing, thats the exact dumb shit one would expect from a college educated fuckboy.
They used to believe swallows migrated into the ocean in the dark ages.
Rains come from the sky, I know it must have water in it. Not.
Look up the definition of firmament before you use it. It basically means sky. Atmosphere. The vault of heaven. Heavens, above.
I hate dumb Flat Earthers. Hate their stupidity. They are so utterly dumb.
Yes balloons go through the cloud layer, look moisture.
What is so utterly amusing is they use the bible as a source of fact. These people worshipped. Tell me. The Sun. Planets. Elements. Calling them gods. Then a single God, Father, King, became the only God. In the crossover. What occurred. That same God, used acts of nature as divine punishment. Why is this? Until his followers, chosen caused acts of God. You have got to be? It's almost laughable at the obvious autism. Laughable because look at that pattern. Is there more. Idealistically why not.
It would be better for you to investigate the eyewitness accounts of Jesus and his resurrection. Your statement is a knee jerk emotional response. There is no room for emotion in logic. You have been brainwashed into believing that you can create your own truth. Can you admit there are good things and evil things? Are you evil? Most people want to believe they’re mostly good. But, by what standard? Your Truth? If I thought you were evil would you agree and consequently would you stay that way and do nothing or worse more evil?’ You use the the term, “You think you’re smarter than a flat earthier.” Smarter than…. How smart are these flat earth ears and by what standard? It all sounds like a house of cards to me. Whether the earth is flat or not my stance is that like all true creation it has symmetry and balance. Light is a wave and a particle and we have yet to completely understand it. Yet here you are with,….muh smarter than you. So futile.
We have more proof that Jesus existed than any other historical figure. If you are so willing to dismiss these sureties I highly doubt you are capable of any thorough analysis. I know smart people that are the stupidest I have ever had the misfortune of meeting and vice versa. Unfortunately, I’m not convinced you have proved anything beyond commending yourself on how smart you think you are. That’s our difference. I prefer wisdom it suggests I have more to learn and avoid assumptions.
No.
You have Autism.
Look up the definition of a firmament can you do this. It says. Sky. Understand it yet. It's obvious. Did these people know where rain came from.
No they didn't.
They had god's for rain, gods for the moon, sun, planets, and just about everything else they didn't control but others profited off of controlling them. Rain the gods are mad you better or the sky crashes on your head. It turns out they're still at it. Buy an EV or else.
So when a single God replaced their pantheon's, what happened. Read it. He continued to cause acts of nature. But they evolved into being his faithful. Killing all the other gods.
You fucking dumbass. Bow and say your prayers. Don't forget. Otherwise the rain will come.
Does a single God profit more. Ofc. He's the only God. Surely he needs a mortal, human crossover, a son, prophet, pope? I mean a King of Kings. At what point. Yes there's more, conscience, and laws. Order instead of chaos. But it's rather obvious. They had these people on the last pantheon, priests and the devout to their orders. They just got more advanced at it. It caused, tell me. It perhaps is missing in society today. God's judgement. But most have understood it by now. The rest are dutiful to such an easy construct. Why not. It provides morality to its crude limitations.
Your brain is retarded. Full of shitty dogma and monkey level ignorance. There are many like this who are herded. Like a lot of this forum, look at the spastics, God, Flat Earth, etc. We aren't in a snowglobe. There is no land beyond the Icewall. The Earth isn't flat.
There are questions about our place in the cosmos. We haven't even scratched the surface.
You don't have the money to take a trip into Space or Antarctica. That's the real problem. So instead you dutifully believe in some other retribution.
Did you watch the videos from anywhere else. So how in fucks name are you taking for granted one video?
You're on a conspiracy forum and your head is up your asshole. Literally as dumb a person I can ever chat too. Superstitious, ignorant, and a dumb sheep, bleating. You call everybody closed minded, but you're the epitome of it. Because you're that dumb you blame everybody else. As you seek refuge in religion, it provides you with a crutch for your blitheringly dull ignorance.
No other conspiracy, we have a retard.
Not in my view, no.
Humanity requires no help (grand conspiracy or otherwise) to be consistently wrong and stupid, as it historically always is.
That is correct - including today. Wether you believe that water is coming from gods tear ducts or the slits/vaults in the sky letting the heavenly oceans flow down doesn’t change the soundness of the (simple) logic.
You are intended to. The heavily advertised (i.e. funded) flat earth psyop presents them as offensively stupid so that you will never seriously consider/research the valuable subject. In reality, only a very small percentage of humanity is as ostensibly stupid as the common “flat earthers”; that we are intended to believe are both real and common. They are neither.
Exactly as contrived and advertised by the psyop.
Why are fucking retarded?
Rain comes from clouds in the sky it doesn't mean there's an Ocean in the sky. The firmament. They didn't know how rained formed or why.
They invented God's for it. Who when they were angry would release the sky ocean drowning them.
Superstition.
This is why every act of God in the Bible was from nature. Until his believers cause acts of God via arc of the covenant and through his worship.
You spewing a mythical firmament doesn't mean there's a Flat Earth. It makes you dumb. Retarded.
Why are irrationally angry?
Not necessarily (although that is what they thought, and wrote in the bible), but it does mean there is water up there to come down. That was my whole point; that logic is entirely sound - including today.
Perhaps, or perhaps history embellished/corrupted by time and the grapevine.
I’m not so sure. This is a core modern apologist doctrine. Is resurrection natural? How about parting of the seas, virgin birth, or turning water to wine? How about a staff transforming into a serpent? Does that happen naturally?
I am not spewing anything of the sort. The firmament and the flat earth are plainly described in the bible many times - but i agree that does not make either of them true/real.
Do you think I am angry typing? No. Fucking retarded is the level of autism you've just shown. Wahaaa he said fucking retarded. He must be mad. No. You've proved it. You couldn't make any other argument outside of retarded crying angry feelings. Your own. It makes and proves you're retarded. Wahaa so offensive. No. Two words. They mean nothing until you prove them.
No argument to do with the topic. Just your retardism. It certainly wasn't theological, about how religion formed, and the representations it used to cause beliefs.
They had no concept of how rain formed it was from the gods judging them. No concept of it. It was literally less than 200 years ago that they knew where birds went seasonally, migrating. They believed for thousands of years, the birds went into the ocean, migrating in the ocean, and then returned in the spring.
They invented a sky ocean. The firmament. It blessed their crops or it flooded them. Because they worshipped God's judging them. It hasn't changed much. We still have retards today believing in sky oceans. Or Jewish alien space lasers.
You are (ostensibly) reacting emotionally and compelled irrationally to vitriol by that emotion - whatever you want to call it.
What are you babbling about? I sincerely can’t tell. Perhaps if you could control your emotion and use your words instead - communication would be possible...
The biblical view was that it came from slits in the sky, which allowed the oceans above to stream down. There are of course, many other ideas in antiquity. But what they generally have in common, is the logic that because water falls from the sky - there must be water up there to fall down. My point was that that logic is as sound then as it is today.
And if above the sky, there were an ocean - would that make you the retard? In my view, it is belief writ large that is the enemy of knowledge - not the particular belief.
I don’t know about the jewish aliens (or space, writ-large) but lasers coming from the sky are entirely real and there is footage available of them in action if you’re interested.
Are they used to start fires? They certainly could be.
No you are. Look at your post. Full blown psychotic schizo retard. All somebody had to do was call you a retard. You've gone and proved it. Nobody else apart from a retard types that shit to other people. What are they supposed to make of it. They called you a retard. Suddenly you are. Wahaaa. It's not fair, saying to them how it's not nice, and it's unkind. See. You're retarded. The simplest explanation to why you have that kind of autism. You've proved it.
We were discussing the topic. Not undeniably proving why you're retarded.
The topic is why Flat Earthers are retards. Calling on all autists. Read it. It appeals to their feelings. They believe in sky oceans. The sky ocean will rain down on their heads. It has a firmament, and it stores all the water dripping off of flat earth for when it rains down on their heads.
Full blown retard.
Instead of taking stuff apart, how religion formed, what was its basis and what were their beliefs. You swallow absurdity whole. You expect others to take your word for it. Because you're emotional. Retarded.
Where did the sky ocean, rain, come from, according to them. You attempted explaining it, but that's not their quotes. It's your own pathetic explanation into what you've assumed is our Planet's cloud layer.
It has no basis. It was conjecture. Like our origin. A belief. It had no fact. It wasn't established. Conjecture. Metaphor. Vague description into what they imagined. A god causing rain from the sky ocean blessing or cursing them. Not from anything else.
Where did rain come from. They invented gods for it.
Instead of using a simple comparison into their education. You ignored it and retardedly imagine flat earth. Comparison on migrating birds. For thousands of years they believed migrating birds migrated into our ocean. Another was a giant catfish, a god, caused earthquakes. Many Japanese believed this until all of a hundred years ago.
There you are. It's a giant catfish, right? How everybody else is wrong. Because there's a sky ocean gonna flood us.
I am neither emotional, nor compelled to childish vitriol by that emotion. But you evidently are :( It’s very difficult to effectively communicate when you let your emotions control you. Take a breath.
Yes, and one of the things you said while discussing that topic was wrong. It is not wrong/illogical/stupid to assume that because it rains that there must be water up above to fall. It is the complete opposite of that.
According to who? If you mean in the biblical view - the answer is obvious.
So you want to believe. But that want and belief does not make you correct - for the exact same reasons that theirs doesn’t.
Huh? You seem very confused and are certainly not describing anything i actually said. If you disagree - please provide the quotes of my comments that led you to this (incorrect) conclusion/interpretation so i can explain.
So the bible teaches (though that same bible ostensibly promises that it won’t happen again).