Note: the OP of the thread (and guy who runs the linked website, arete) is known to provide cover for prolific shills/incite inter-community conflicts. His site has been accused of providing browser fingerprints to would be doxxers as well.
Edit: he has also admitted to reading private messages and using their contents to assist a massive shill in continuing his shilling operation.
Oh yeah, and another thing. Elvis banned a proven shill for, among other offenses, sockpuppeting, vote manipulation, astroturfing, and support of pedophilia - he then accepts an undisclosed amount of money from this shill, unbans him, and proceeds to protect him for the next year+, even overturning multiple bans of this user by other, less subverted moderators until they quit in protest.
assist a massive shill in continuing his shilling operation
So should I have just let it slide that right after Insurgent deleted his account because of someone sending him his dox on Scored, two people who I have previously regarded as incredibly suspect (one a known drug addict, the other a Romanian hitting on a 14yo girl) created a whitelisted chatroom, and it just so happens that they were plotting a home invasion, threatening his family and sharing that very same photo that got his home address leaked? All because you hate Insurgent?
You're a massive faggot for defending actual doxers because they targeted the right person in your view.
>hyperfocuses on one point he thinks he can “correct” while ignoring the fact he’s had almost every single moderator quit because he favors literal shills over community members
Someone tried to tell me the benefit of registering to have a weed card was that you could be anon. In a room full of signs about being on camera at all times.
Privacy offline isn't really easily obtainable in this world. People delude themselves to think otherwise.
Because ones consent to suggested "internet" exposes self to others. Doxxing implies exposure of others by self. Why give those who expose self the privilege to expose others?
And this is not even the same site. It's a subdomain hosting a different open source website.
summary of that 1 year old drama:
u/then accuses u/OGrawsaw of being JG5's fed alt (based on a sarcastic message by rawsaw in the chat), says he posesses advanced hacking skills, wants to obtain JG5's home address using packet tracing on timed realtime chat messages of a specific length.
I respond to him by saying JG5's browser errors out when trying to use the chat, so it can't be him (that's all I said, not even which browser he uses, I didn't even have that info)
JG5 complains that I've revealed his browser fingerprint, so I delete the comment
JG5 then uses that deletion as "evidence" against me, claims I'm in cahoots with his enemy's plan to dox him. As for the sensitive "browser fingerprint" - him openly posting archives of that comment clearly indicates otherwise.
Feds will try to disenchant you from now on u/Elvis_Interstellar , due to your Arete existing. Just ban the disenchanters that lie. Graphenium knows you eventually banned Insurgent for 30 days for making too many anti-Bible-thumper memes.
Insurgent is still banned, and Graphenium is singing his old song.
Dont get demoralized. 21% of ConPro are paid shills and all now want to stop Arete.
Wrong, insurgent was (finally) banned because it became painfully obvious that every genuine user on the site wanted him gone, which was largely because I exposed him for the shill he is, despite Elvis’ best efforts to cover for him for 2+ years, including having multiple moderators quit over the issue.
Insurgent was doxxed on that site, Elvis read the PMs of everyone to "find the killer" after Insurgent deleted his account. He then banned the one doing it as well as the "accomplice" he was talking to. It was my browser fingerprint he gave out, to u/down no less who openly stated he wanted to dox me using the Arete chat.
He even attempted a similarly vague threat to doxx me above
I know a way to cheer you up Graphenium.... hang out in a live chat with a persona alt of me online in the chat, or monitoring it. Pick a chat server.
And it is indeed odd how the only time Elvis has revealed reporters identities is if theyre people he personally doesn’t like. Almost as if he shouldn’t be trusted with any kind of sensitive information.
After they warned and banned me, they had to issue him a warning as well just to look like they weren't taking sides. But then he kept doing it anyway. Eventually they gave him a whopping 1 day ban.
Graphenium, YOU ARE STILL LONG TERM BANNED for relentless disenchantment already.
You are a negative force, a liar, and "sus".
I never in history said I would publish ("doxx") anyone, not even JG5. Without publishing or threatening to publish, there is no doxx. Fucking goddamned corrupt mod SFAM1A banned me for THINKING of me one day doxxing JG5 , tried to delete evidence that exonerated me, and his one day ban of me u/then caused me to withhold 8 months of new memes to ConPro in rage, except about 15 testing memes. I can be enraged. I am once again enraged this week. 8 months , NO MEMES.
I eventually just started reposting (funny)(my new) content to ConPro until the glowie feds attacked my couple dozen memes -10 , even my memes fed to ConPro via Arete auto clone : https://archive.ph/CQYeG
My Last 730 funny memes in one huge list archived :
Hah! SO funny! (I make 3 a day, but for a year most go to 7 other sites, ane every meme goes to only ONE selected site, except for testing a site. My memes are EXCLUSIVES to uplift a site.
Due to JG5, ConPro gets ZERO new memes from me until perhaps after Thanksgiving 2023 : https://archive.ph/CQYeG
I might have shared things with Elvis, but Elvis shared NOTHING with me about JG5s web browser info other than it was unstandard , old, and unable to run Elvis JAVASCRIPT CHAT. That's it, but I think Elvis overreacting and self deleting his own comment to me and all on ConPro allowed JG5 to make up false stories about Elvis.
No fingerprint to the browser was shared. I revealed it was most certainly a service to hide JG5s real browser behind a 3rd party web proxy site that remotely runs javascript and pretends to have limited features. That may or may not have alarmed that Fed, JG5.
Normally Feds use a VPN or Tor but use their REAL computer directly and allow Cloudflare Javscript direct access, scored javascript direct access, and even Arete direct access. But a couple Feds might pay to use a web anonymizer proxy.... like JG5 did to feign reason to NOT JOIN CHAT on Arete.
ONE MAIN REASON TO NEVER JOIN ANY CHAT ON ANY SITE IS FULL DOXXING OF YOUR HOME ROUTER IP LOCATION:
FUN FACT #941 : ALL PEOPLE CAN BE FULLY PACKET TRACED SINCE 2021 when reading a specially created packet sent to you, or passively read by you! They find you, for under $300 by Hackers and spies using backbone sieve databrokers like "Cortex Xpanse"!
Though Elvis oddly and mysteriously denied that 100% factual fun fact, he appeased me and made his chat deliver to EACH CHAT USER byte padding and time jitter to secure his chat from glowies.
Elvis has now the worlds only proven SECURE live chat that mostly prevents end to end across tor or across vpn packet tracing.
THIS MEANS ELVIS SPENT HOURS adding protection to stop people with money and talent from doxxing JG5 or others in his live chat. I cannot for merely $300 dollars get JG5 alts home IP address now ON THAT CHAT SERVICE.
Elvis made a mistake deleting his comment and allowing JG5 to make up a false history that even you keep spreading. On voat, a site that NEVER deletes legal posts, the voat.xyz allowed a disgusting corrupt mod named CynaBuns, finally demodded long after I demanded her demod, to delete a nudist group shot photo, above waist, by an edge lord, still present on old voat.co archives. the photo is still on searchvoat site. That ONE SINGLE DELETION allowed JG5 to make up outlandish fantasy stories and lies to this very day!!!!!
JG5 lives for a deletion event , so he can make up stories of its old missing content, like with the Elvis doxxing data myth
Elvis likewise erred by deleting his tame bland comment. It did not doxx Fed JG5 other than reveal JG5 pretends to use an ancient computer device to avoid live chat.
He will NEVER join live chats that are not private at this point, as JG5 knows motivated people like me exist.
Even with IP address of his router at night, I also need to EXPLOIT his router OR a PC in JG5s home using a ZERO DAY, and though I have much background experience, zero days are not common enough to use at any arbitrary week. I would have to get lucky to break into the insides of u/JosephGoebbels5 PC and learn his full identity and location FOR MY OWN PRIVATE NEEDS.
Not for doxxing. I dont plan on doxxing. For my own private needs to learn which TLA ( LEA ) JG5 works for or contacts for. I have done this before with other Feds, including top level glowies ages ago.
But I consider myself a White hat and Grey Hat. A zealot guardian of Free Speech.
I never could convince Elvis on the Fed named Rawsaw ( OGRawSaw remember him? I perhaps took care of him) ... even with direct packet byte stream evidence from me to Elvis. To this very day, Elvis believes the empathy vampire act by the Fed rawsaw so much, that Elvis not only doubts me, Elvis likely slightly fears me. Elvis was deep conned. I harmed things by spooking Elvis more with the rawsaw events, but literal Feds were grooming invasion+robbery+assault on Arete private chat against Insurgent that month.
I see no way to snap Elvis out of his engrained delusions on rawsaw, and Elvis claims rawsaw was being SARCASTIC when admitting he was a glowie alt of JG5 team, and all these copious links on Feds will not sober Elvis up : https://archive.ph/FGTLE
I know a way to cheer you up Graphenium.... hang out in a live chat with a persona alt of me online in the chat, or monitoring it. Pick a chat server.
TL/DR: Elvis never once shared info to me or anyone about details of anyone's web browser version. This is a Fed disenchantment lie. ALL THE FEDS and LEFTIES are enraged at Arete.network this month
Reading private PMs is done by EVERY site mod in history. It did not assist Insurgent, it made Insurgent disappear for weeks in sadness that glowies possibly wanted to murder him and stage it as a home invasion robbery.
Elvis shared REDACTED giant chat log on ConPro of one Glowie grooming a non-Glowie to commit a serious crime against Insurgent. Possibly FBI site-tainting "busy work" to get court orders later.
Muslims want me DEAD for my off-site meme antics.
ADL wants ANTIFA hired goons to burn down my house at night.
I know how dangerous these enemies of Free Speech are.
You downvoted my detailed comment. You are an enemy of Free Speech. I never once downvoted anyone or anything ever on this site. u/ C can confirm.
There's a disclaimer right at the top saying that posts removed prior to archival (such as by filters) cannot be displayed in the feed, as there is no way for the tool to discover them in the first place. Enter in the direct link instead.
The filter removes it instantly. They could have been discovered through the mod log, but TD hides those
Having said that, I've since figured out that there might be a way to retrieve their content. For some reason your profile page on the legacy website makes everything available for removed posts, meaning I could potentially scrape it if Cloudflare doesn't stop me.
There are 10 side benefits to this Free Speech archiver , one of them is a 50% to 75% immediate drop in "over censoring" and likewise related rapid growth from a happier core user base. That is just one of 10 benefits.
This meme deletion proves either not enough good mods on Patriots or proves too many Centrist mods on Patriots.
TheDonald strangely actually often deletes great new funny exclusive memes I make for TheDonald , but some get +1900 upvotes if the mods dont delete my funny conservative memes.
Nice, unrestricted access to jewlarp.
Note: the OP of the thread (and guy who runs the linked website, arete) is known to provide cover for prolific shills/incite inter-community conflicts. His site has been accused of providing browser fingerprints to would be doxxers as well.
Edit: he has also admitted to reading private messages and using their contents to assist a massive shill in continuing his shilling operation.
Oh yeah, and another thing. Elvis banned a proven shill for, among other offenses, sockpuppeting, vote manipulation, astroturfing, and support of pedophilia - he then accepts an undisclosed amount of money from this shill, unbans him, and proceeds to protect him for the next year+, even overturning multiple bans of this user by other, less subverted moderators until they quit in protest.
Just a word of warning
So should I have just let it slide that right after Insurgent deleted his account because of someone sending him his dox on Scored, two people who I have previously regarded as incredibly suspect (one a known drug addict, the other a Romanian hitting on a 14yo girl) created a whitelisted chatroom, and it just so happens that they were plotting a home invasion, threatening his family and sharing that very same photo that got his home address leaked? All because you hate Insurgent?
You're a massive faggot for defending actual doxers because they targeted the right person in your view.
>hyperfocuses on one point he thinks he can “correct” while ignoring the fact he’s had almost every single moderator quit because he favors literal shills over community members
Lmao, so i'm a fagsurgent now as well? And you wonder why you were banned.
Keep lying about mods quitting. With the one exception of RSF whose telegram was attacked by trolls, nothing to do with insurgent whatsoever.
Ahh, I was banned for calling you a name a month after I was banned huh? Not only do you protect shill operations you also have precognition.
AMAZING!
Keep avoiding the question though, it makes you and your data harvesting sites look really trustworthy.
Which question? Your loaded questions about me "protecting a literal shill"?
It's the internet. There's no such thing as 'private'.
Someone tried to tell me the benefit of registering to have a weed card was that you could be anon. In a room full of signs about being on camera at all times.
Privacy offline isn't really easily obtainable in this world. People delude themselves to think otherwise.
Then why is "no doxxing" a rule?
Because ones consent to suggested "internet" exposes self to others. Doxxing implies exposure of others by self. Why give those who expose self the privilege to expose others?
If it's voluntarily uploaded to the internet, it's fair game. But it's still a rule not to be shared.
Theater, just like everything else.
Same reason there a "no murders" rule
Just because you can doesn't mean you should
Nice edit. However, you have been caught lying once again.
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1q5p9qry2r6hqdz3dzqmf3wkwls3mzg2sfpfu7qn
The amount donated to Arete's bitcoin address was only around $70 at the time, nor was it undisclosed. He publicly said it.
As for those bans: I have undone those because all were lacking proper justification.
ZC banned him for violent posts on a new account (rule 3)
I'm not sure what Blerg's reason was, but later he got along with him pretty well. I did find this however:
He didn't know whether it was him or Basedhomesteader (who was ban evading).
Hmm so you over ruled your moderators in order to allow a shill to keep shilling? Odd
Someone I trust far more than you on the matter stated that Blerg explicitly told them he quit because of you constantly protecting fagsurgent
rent free
You mean that one time a year ago when I said JG5's browser doesn't support chat when u/then tried to falsely portray OGrawsaw as an alt based on a sarcastic comment in the chat. Not much of a fingerprint.
And this is not even the same site. It's a subdomain hosting a different open source website.
summary of that 1 year old drama:
u/then accuses u/OGrawsaw of being JG5's fed alt (based on a sarcastic message by rawsaw in the chat), says he posesses advanced hacking skills, wants to obtain JG5's home address using packet tracing on timed realtime chat messages of a specific length.
I respond to him by saying JG5's browser errors out when trying to use the chat, so it can't be him (that's all I said, not even which browser he uses, I didn't even have that info)
JG5 complains that I've revealed his browser fingerprint, so I delete the comment
JG5 then uses that deletion as "evidence" against me, claims I'm in cahoots with his enemy's plan to dox him. As for the sensitive "browser fingerprint" - him openly posting archives of that comment clearly indicates otherwise.
Controlled by the same admin who sides with one of the most prolific spammers and trolls on there and coincidentally was the same person you provided the fingerprint info to. At no time did you try to stop his doxxing attempts.
Regardless, you’re not a trustworthy administrator for private data.
You also refuse to explain why you sided with the site’s most prolific shill over 4 of your moderators.
What a smear!
Feds will try to disenchant you from now on u/Elvis_Interstellar , due to your Arete existing. Just ban the disenchanters that lie. Graphenium knows you eventually banned Insurgent for 30 days for making too many anti-Bible-thumper memes.
Insurgent is still banned, and Graphenium is singing his old song.
Dont get demoralized. 21% of ConPro are paid shills and all now want to stop Arete.
Wrong, insurgent was (finally) banned because it became painfully obvious that every genuine user on the site wanted him gone, which was largely because I exposed him for the shill he is, despite Elvis’ best efforts to cover for him for 2+ years, including having multiple moderators quit over the issue.
Insurgent was doxxed on that site, Elvis read the PMs of everyone to "find the killer" after Insurgent deleted his account. He then banned the one doing it as well as the "accomplice" he was talking to. It was my browser fingerprint he gave out, to u/down no less who openly stated he wanted to dox me using the Arete chat.
See my post on it
He even attempted a similarly vague threat to doxx me above
And it is indeed odd how the only time Elvis has revealed reporters identities is if theyre people he personally doesn’t like. Almost as if he shouldn’t be trusted with any kind of sensitive information.
https://files.catbox.moe/jaxbrc.png
After they warned and banned me, they had to issue him a warning as well just to look like they weren't taking sides. But then he kept doing it anyway. Eventually they gave him a whopping 1 day ban.
Graphenium, YOU ARE STILL LONG TERM BANNED for relentless disenchantment already.
You are a negative force, a liar, and "sus".
I never in history said I would publish ("doxx") anyone, not even JG5. Without publishing or threatening to publish, there is no doxx. Fucking goddamned corrupt mod SFAM1A banned me for THINKING of me one day doxxing JG5 , tried to delete evidence that exonerated me, and his one day ban of me u/then caused me to withhold 8 months of new memes to ConPro in rage, except about 15 testing memes. I can be enraged. I am once again enraged this week. 8 months , NO MEMES.
I eventually just started reposting (funny)(my new) content to ConPro until the glowie feds attacked my couple dozen memes -10 , even my memes fed to ConPro via Arete auto clone : https://archive.ph/CQYeG
My Last 730 funny memes in one huge list archived :
https://scored.co/search?query=(humor&community=ourgreateststrength
85% of those I made!
Hah! SO funny! (I make 3 a day, but for a year most go to 7 other sites, ane every meme goes to only ONE selected site, except for testing a site. My memes are EXCLUSIVES to uplift a site.
Due to JG5, ConPro gets ZERO new memes from me until perhaps after Thanksgiving 2023 : https://archive.ph/CQYeG
I might have shared things with Elvis, but Elvis shared NOTHING with me about JG5s web browser info other than it was unstandard , old, and unable to run Elvis JAVASCRIPT CHAT. That's it, but I think Elvis overreacting and self deleting his own comment to me and all on ConPro allowed JG5 to make up false stories about Elvis.
No fingerprint to the browser was shared. I revealed it was most certainly a service to hide JG5s real browser behind a 3rd party web proxy site that remotely runs javascript and pretends to have limited features. That may or may not have alarmed that Fed, JG5.
Normally Feds use a VPN or Tor but use their REAL computer directly and allow Cloudflare Javscript direct access, scored javascript direct access, and even Arete direct access. But a couple Feds might pay to use a web anonymizer proxy.... like JG5 did to feign reason to NOT JOIN CHAT on Arete.
ONE MAIN REASON TO NEVER JOIN ANY CHAT ON ANY SITE IS FULL DOXXING OF YOUR HOME ROUTER IP LOCATION:
FUN FACT #941 : ALL PEOPLE CAN BE FULLY PACKET TRACED SINCE 2021 when reading a specially created packet sent to you, or passively read by you! They find you, for under $300 by Hackers and spies using backbone sieve databrokers like "Cortex Xpanse"!
https://communities.win/c/ConsumeProduct/p/140cNc07L3
https://archive.ph/WHHp0#selection-1669.0-1669.249
Though Elvis oddly and mysteriously denied that 100% factual fun fact, he appeased me and made his chat deliver to EACH CHAT USER byte padding and time jitter to secure his chat from glowies.
Elvis has now the worlds only proven SECURE live chat that mostly prevents end to end across tor or across vpn packet tracing.
THIS MEANS ELVIS SPENT HOURS adding protection to stop people with money and talent from doxxing JG5 or others in his live chat. I cannot for merely $300 dollars get JG5 alts home IP address now ON THAT CHAT SERVICE.
Elvis made a mistake deleting his comment and allowing JG5 to make up a false history that even you keep spreading. On voat, a site that NEVER deletes legal posts, the voat.xyz allowed a disgusting corrupt mod named CynaBuns, finally demodded long after I demanded her demod, to delete a nudist group shot photo, above waist, by an edge lord, still present on old voat.co archives. the photo is still on searchvoat site. That ONE SINGLE DELETION allowed JG5 to make up outlandish fantasy stories and lies to this very day!!!!!
JG5 lives for a deletion event , so he can make up stories of its old missing content, like with the Elvis doxxing data myth
Elvis likewise erred by deleting his tame bland comment. It did not doxx Fed JG5 other than reveal JG5 pretends to use an ancient computer device to avoid live chat.
He will NEVER join live chats that are not private at this point, as JG5 knows motivated people like me exist.
Even with IP address of his router at night, I also need to EXPLOIT his router OR a PC in JG5s home using a ZERO DAY, and though I have much background experience, zero days are not common enough to use at any arbitrary week. I would have to get lucky to break into the insides of u/JosephGoebbels5 PC and learn his full identity and location FOR MY OWN PRIVATE NEEDS.
Not for doxxing. I dont plan on doxxing. For my own private needs to learn which TLA ( LEA ) JG5 works for or contacts for. I have done this before with other Feds, including top level glowies ages ago.
But I consider myself a White hat and Grey Hat. A zealot guardian of Free Speech.
I never could convince Elvis on the Fed named Rawsaw ( OGRawSaw remember him? I perhaps took care of him) ... even with direct packet byte stream evidence from me to Elvis. To this very day, Elvis believes the empathy vampire act by the Fed rawsaw so much, that Elvis not only doubts me, Elvis likely slightly fears me. Elvis was deep conned. I harmed things by spooking Elvis more with the rawsaw events, but literal Feds were grooming invasion+robbery+assault on Arete private chat against Insurgent that month.
I see no way to snap Elvis out of his engrained delusions on rawsaw, and Elvis claims rawsaw was being SARCASTIC when admitting he was a glowie alt of JG5 team, and all these copious links on Feds will not sober Elvis up :
https://archive.ph/FGTLE
See? FEDS FEDS FEDS
u/Elvis_Interstellar seems to have banned you for a good reason Graphenium.
I know a way to cheer you up Graphenium.... hang out in a live chat with a persona alt of me online in the chat, or monitoring it. Pick a chat server.
TL/DR: Elvis never once shared info to me or anyone about details of anyone's web browser version. This is a Fed disenchantment lie. ALL THE FEDS and LEFTIES are enraged at Arete.network this month
https://files.catbox.moe/jaxbrc.png
Stay away from the doxxing spammer. He uses it to gain personally identifiable info.
Confirm or Deny: he read people’s private messages to assist the most prolific shill on the site in continuing to shill?
Half-confirm your biased motive.
Reading private PMs is done by EVERY site mod in history. It did not assist Insurgent, it made Insurgent disappear for weeks in sadness that glowies possibly wanted to murder him and stage it as a home invasion robbery.
Elvis shared REDACTED giant chat log on ConPro of one Glowie grooming a non-Glowie to commit a serious crime against Insurgent. Possibly FBI site-tainting "busy work" to get court orders later.
I know how dangerous these enemies of Free Speech are.
You downvoted my detailed comment. You are an enemy of Free Speech. I never once downvoted anyone or anything ever on this site. u/ C can confirm.
Now possible: https://communities.win/c/ConsumeProduct/p/16bj5FiUT3/x/c
There's a disclaimer right at the top saying that posts removed prior to archival (such as by filters) cannot be displayed in the feed, as there is no way for the tool to discover them in the first place. Enter in the direct link instead.
The filter removes it instantly. They could have been discovered through the mod log, but TD hides those
Having said that, I've since figured out that there might be a way to retrieve their content. For some reason your profile page on the legacy website makes everything available for removed posts, meaning I could potentially scrape it if Cloudflare doesn't stop me.
https://patriots.win/u/nothingberg?type=post&sort=new
This works only on standalone domains.
CONGRATULATIONS on the AMAZING work of this cool light-load archiver by Elvis
yesterdays announcement thread :
https://communities.win/c/ConsumeProduct/p/16biw2ajoY/
https://scored.co/c/ConsumeProduct/p/16biw2ajoY/
One example: https://archive.ph/lbx3i
There are 10 side benefits to this Free Speech archiver , one of them is a 50% to 75% immediate drop in "over censoring" and likewise related rapid growth from a happier core user base. That is just one of 10 benefits.
GREAT JOB!
Everyone should bookmark https://unscored.arete.network/
You can enter YOUR NAME to reveal what posts or comments got DELETED manually by mods!
Wow!
TheDonald deleted my funny good new conservative meme! UnScored caught them:
https://unscored.arete.network/c/TheDonald/p/16bivsNReD/
See?
That same hilarious meme I made got 75 upvotes and ZERO downvotes on sites like voat a day ago :
https://archive.ph/Zbh13
This meme deletion proves either not enough good mods on Patriots or proves too many Centrist mods on Patriots.
TheDonald strangely actually often deletes great new funny exclusive memes I make for TheDonald , but some get +1900 upvotes if the mods dont delete my funny conservative memes.
Hurray!
💟❤💙♥💓💕💖💗💘💜💝💞❤💛💙💌💚😍 THANKS, Unscored! 💜💝
Everyone should bookmark
https://unscored.arete.network/
dude this thread is hilarious lmao