It is some European radiation monitoring service. Find Khmelitsky town in Ukraine and click on dot to see data from screenshot.
What's interesting. Radiation level rised a little, from 0.09 to 0.15 uSv/h at May 11-12 night. It stayed on that level up to that enormous blast at May 12-13 night, then dropped and when secondary explosions stopped and dust settled it rised again.
Level is nothig to worry about at all, Many European towns have higher levels as a norm, 0.15 uSv/h is perfectly safe.
However it could be speculated that something radioactive was brought to Khmelnitsky warehouse at the May 11-12 night and was blown at May 12-13 night. Dust from the blast temporary shielded sensor for some time and when it settled along with radioactive contaminants, sensor again catch level even slightly higher than previously that could be the sign that radioactive materials dispersed over area after the blast.
It is a pure speculation, and changes from 0.09 to 0.15 uSv/h could be from many other reasons, but coincidence is not always mean that there is no casuation.
If speculate further, that British shells with depleted uranium was brought to Khmelnitsky warehouse and next day it was blown up.
It uses some strange units - CPM, may be "Counts Per Minute", looks weird for me, because different radiation sensors have different CPM value per uSv/h or uR/h for different radiation sources. It heavily depends on the sensitivity and size of the geiger tube or scintillation sensor and used to calculate measured radiation level from number of particle detection pulses per minute. Looks like radiation level in CPM is something adjusted to CPM of some standard sesnsor.
Searched a little, some sources state that 1uSv/h is 120 CPM with Cs137 source standard, some state that it is 108 CPM with Co60 source standard.
So anything higher ~60 CPM (0.5uSv/h) should be cause of concern, anything higher than ~360CPM ( 3uSv/h like during plane flight) is a reason to move out.
The thing is that if you had average background at 0.09 for a long time and then it suddenly become 0.15 and stay so, this could mean that something happened, despite background is still pretty normal.
Background could vary depending on space weather, but that variations are not permanent and rarely last longer than day. Also, variations in cosmic rays activity influence background radiation levels in wide area, not only in single town.
Again, this change is small and safe, but coincidence of such changes with weapons warehouse blasts attracted my attention.
These blasts were nuclear weapons detonations. For anyone that believes they would "already know" if that were so, please stop reading now.
I refer persons who like to talk about nuclear stuff to two of my other comments and one post. In a long comment to a post from last night, I analyze these nuclear blasts:
I say "we found out", but readers should take the time to skim the comments on that one, particularly the pushback, to understand and evaluate the expertise and insight of the company we find ourselves among on this forum.
Nuclear weapons detonations gives completely another curve in radiation level change.
Radiation level does not rise day before nuclear detonation, and fall at the moment of detonation, it rises seriously at exact moment of detonation and then decline, fast initially, when short-living isotopes decay, slowly later, leaving some noticeably rised background.
Pavlograd and Ternopol sensors show nothing suspicious at all, only Khmelnitsky sensor data looks suspicious. You could check that by yourself.
Is this from one of those NATO-installed nuclear recording stations that totally report legitimate information and definitely won’t be used in a false flag?
No. It is from old European radiology monitoring network installed years after Chernobyl disaster.
It definitely could be used in a false flag, so everything coming from that source should be taken with a grain of salt.
It is just an easily accessible radiation monitoring service, where I found something interesting, that is too small to be a reason for any false flag, because 0.15uSv/h is nothing, it is less than average background in a lot of places on the Earth not connected with anything nuclear at all, but that change from one safe level to another perfectly safe level is interesting. Also, those who interested could track changes to see if level will fall in next days or will stay at that level for a long time.
Stop shouting they're nukes. Nukes have a distinct blast wave, the shock wave travels outwards in a cloud. Not simply up. They also have a distinctly white explosion. Brilliant white.
It is not uncommon to get radiation readings on most explosions. Where it will immediately spike and then return to normal levels.
Search YouTube on all nuke tests to confirm. Stop being tards over the mushroom cloud. It happens in many explosions. The explosion, flame, like fire goes upwards, apart from in its immediate inferno, blast radius, producing the mushroom. Especially if it targets an accelerator like fuel or explosives. Even oil rigs, have a mushroom. You seen that?
Nukes create a shock wave extending the impact radius into a cloud spreading out from the blast. Also the explosion is bright like the sun. White. On the bigger tests.
I didn't. Nuke explosions have no habit to produce radiation rise day before blast and drop right after the blast. :) Also they produce much larger levels in proximity to the blast than that tiny 0.06 uSv/h change, that will be definitely noticed by residents, because geiger counters are relatively popular home appliances in exUSSR after Chernobyl disaster.
I was down voted in the other topic claiming they were nukes. I entered this topic and it's similar. Although apology for stating it is highly unlikely it was a nuke, and not specifically speculating on radiation readings.
The readings aren't particularly accurate, they are reading what exactly, looking for signatures of precisely what compounds?
Perhaps it is created by industry? Or involved in certain production of?
In any case the source was exploded.
In reality there needs to be graphs showing readings from conflict, and prior, over extensive periods. Otherwise we're speculating on the materials stored.
I really didn't think ammo produced this because it's incased. So it would have to be production, or let's suggest detonation, or an exhaust?
Nobody, except stuff who service it. But if it works OK and shows real current background, than it is an interesting phenomena.
The readings aren't particularly accurate, they are reading what exactly, looking for signatures of precisely what compounds?
No, they usually vary during days and seasons, but usually, if you had background level at one average for a long time and suddenly that average changed, it is a sign of either sensor malfunction, either sensor contamination (somebody put a vintage vase from uranium glass near, or trashed old smoke detector near), either change in background level.
Also, towns around have no such change at all, so it is not solar/space radiation change - you could choose "Area radius" on the top of that window and add other nearby towns graphs to the plot.
Will see, if background will continue to stay at the new level, then with high probability some incident with lightly radioactive materials happened.
Perhaps it is created by industry? Or involved in certain production of?
May be. Or with same probability it could be delivery and extermination of that DU shells in warehouse.
I really didn't think ammo produced this because it's incased.
Not necessary. If it is some old things, then case will become radioactive too from the inner core. The ton of old DU shells will have same effect as ton of uranium ore. If you bring a ton of uranium ore into the town, then background in the area around the storage will slightly rise.
So it would have to be production, or let's suggest detonation, or an exhaust?
In any case that looks like something radioactive appeared day before, then was destroyed. It can't be nuclear explosion or some serious accident with powerful nuclear material, and represent no any health danger.
I am debating that you're showing me a graph, and it hasn't showed me enough information.
I need to be able to see over a much longer period to be able to speculate. On current conflict and prior for months.
Ascertaining if there was abnormal activity, away from other local industry. It is quite possible many of the units there have been converted for war. It had quite a big industrial sector.
Then again it might have been incinerator day. They might have fired up the trash compactors.
I find this topic pointless. Incased shells don't give that reading. Not into the atmosphere.
So it is industrial, or weapons testing, or an exhaust.
You're trying to add a narrative I disagree with. You're speculating it was munitions. Except they're incased and they don't show these readings unless perhaps they're detonated in testing, production however can cause readings, so can various vents and exhausts. But how abnormal is it? Your graph hasn't established any other patterns to disapprove or validate your narrative.
I need to be able to see over a much longer period to be able to speculate. On current conflict and prior for months.
I think they have that info, may be behind paywall.
My assumption is that natural variations are caused by changes in space weather, so nearby towns will show same change at the same time if change is natural. They does not.
Also, daily variations are daily, so they don't last longer than day. Also, it is much more probable that you will see sharp rise from average with following staying at that level in case of accident. And if you suggest that there was previous accidents and they are regular, then background level in that area before the accident will not be equal to towns nearby. Backround easily could rise sharply due to accident, but it can't fall in the same manner, it is a long process. And background level jumps from previous consequent accidents will accumulate, so you have no chance to see exactly same level in that are as in nearby towns.
So, week of data with sharp rise in the middle is more than enough to make some conclusions if sensor is function normally and data is not manipulated.
Incased shells don't give that reading. Not into the atmosphere.
Easy test for you for ~$1. Buy a 2% thoriated tungsten welding electrode or ask for a short remainder of such if you have a welder among friends. Thorium undergo alpha-decay, but it decays into other elements that have noticeable gamma emissions. So it will have very low gamma radiation, adding something like 0.05-0.1 uSv/h to your background in close proximity. Then put it in steel box. Wait a year. You will find that box will become slightly radioactive too, may be 0.02uSv/h over background. Longer exposure will give higher radioactivity of casing. You know, all that high energy alpha, beta and gamma do nasty things with innocent elements sometimes making radioactive isotopes from them.
As for "into atmosphere" big amount of slighlty radioactive material will emit much more gamma-quants around, so you will register them on relatively large distances. If you have a coal powerplant around - ride to it with geiger counter. Coal ash is slightly radioactive, and working coal powerplant have higher radiation level than working nuclear power plant due to heaps of coal ash nearby. You will register higher radiation levels few miles from ash storages of power plant. And it is not in atmosphere, because in that case you will have higher background at much longer distances. It is heaps of ash have a lot of decays and some of their gamma-quants have a higher chance to reach your detector.
You're speculating it was munitions.
I clearly stated that it is my speculation. What's the problem? Any speculation is good enough if it fits observations. Your speculation about some new manufacturing process that started in Khmelnitsky exactly day before explosion that needs radioactive materials in so big amounts that they are detectable from a distance (?) is not different at all and rises much more questions.
But how abnormal is it?
Sudden rising of background after few days of low background and staying at rised level for few days is abnormal. Usually it is a clear pattern of some accident with radioactive material.
Again, I told you that I'm not exclude sensor malfunction or local contamination, next few days will show if that is a case. If it was an accident that level will stay for a long time. If it was a malfunction or local contamination you will see abnormal sharp drop in background level.
Or that information is just manipulated for whatever reason.
IDK. If you will measure body temperature for a week and suddenly in the middle it will rise from 36.6°C to 38.2°C - will you need a full history of body temperature for years before or it will be enough for you to make some assumptions without full-scale statistics research?
The shape of curve change is suspicious, not amount of change or its absolute value.
I disagree. If munitions are in constant storage that reading will be high. Yes? Unless a base uses shielding, but those munitions will be transporting anyway. Can you provide readings from areas hosting bases with nukes or storing shells that supposedly produce radiation? It's the only way to confirm your theory. You could do this in Russia, or Europe, Asia, perhaps? Near an active nuclear base using transports. As an example we'd see this reading in Svastapol? Not quite but maybe. When it outfits the Fleet.
No that graph hasn't showed much going back 1 month prior. As I said months, prior to conflict and during conflict. I am speculating parts of the industrial sector got turned into war facilities. They go through periods of inactivity. If it is industry. You've done the same on citing munition transport.
We are trying to establish a few things. If industry causes it. If it is those munitions. If it is detonation. If it is an exhaust.
Another theory you haven't used is if there was a prior attack on the city, prior to the main explosions, the x2 hits in question. This often happens, an attack prior, testing air defenses.
Otherwise who knows. I am sticking with, encased shells don't provide that reading.
How to get it - https://remap.jrc.ec.europa.eu/Simple.aspx
On the map find Khmelnitsky, click on hexagon, wait, on the left panel Khmelnitsky item will appear, click on it, window with chart will appear.
Source: https://remap.jrc.ec.europa.eu/Advanced.aspx
It is some European radiation monitoring service. Find Khmelitsky town in Ukraine and click on dot to see data from screenshot.
What's interesting. Radiation level rised a little, from 0.09 to 0.15 uSv/h at May 11-12 night. It stayed on that level up to that enormous blast at May 12-13 night, then dropped and when secondary explosions stopped and dust settled it rised again.
Level is nothig to worry about at all, Many European towns have higher levels as a norm, 0.15 uSv/h is perfectly safe.
However it could be speculated that something radioactive was brought to Khmelnitsky warehouse at the May 11-12 night and was blown at May 12-13 night. Dust from the blast temporary shielded sensor for some time and when it settled along with radioactive contaminants, sensor again catch level even slightly higher than previously that could be the sign that radioactive materials dispersed over area after the blast.
It is a pure speculation, and changes from 0.09 to 0.15 uSv/h could be from many other reasons, but coincidence is not always mean that there is no casuation.
If speculate further, that British shells with depleted uranium was brought to Khmelnitsky warehouse and next day it was blown up.
Well in that case the triple and quadruple digit readings in the US should be a cause for concern.
https://www.gmcmap.com
It uses some strange units - CPM, may be "Counts Per Minute", looks weird for me, because different radiation sensors have different CPM value per uSv/h or uR/h for different radiation sources. It heavily depends on the sensitivity and size of the geiger tube or scintillation sensor and used to calculate measured radiation level from number of particle detection pulses per minute. Looks like radiation level in CPM is something adjusted to CPM of some standard sesnsor.
Searched a little, some sources state that 1uSv/h is 120 CPM with Cs137 source standard, some state that it is 108 CPM with Co60 source standard.
So anything higher ~60 CPM (0.5uSv/h) should be cause of concern, anything higher than ~360CPM ( 3uSv/h like during plane flight) is a reason to move out.
0.09-0.15 is what I consider normal background in my region, and I take daily readings that I am willing to share if/when needed.
The thing is that if you had average background at 0.09 for a long time and then it suddenly become 0.15 and stay so, this could mean that something happened, despite background is still pretty normal.
Background could vary depending on space weather, but that variations are not permanent and rarely last longer than day. Also, variations in cosmic rays activity influence background radiation levels in wide area, not only in single town.
Again, this change is small and safe, but coincidence of such changes with weapons warehouse blasts attracted my attention.
In case you were interested:
http://ibb.co/Pg00tmb
The margins of error are high due to short runtimes, the equipment does become confident during longer runs.
Running average helps a lot to lower error margins.
These blasts were nuclear weapons detonations. For anyone that believes they would "already know" if that were so, please stop reading now.
I refer persons who like to talk about nuclear stuff to two of my other comments and one post. In a long comment to a post from last night, I analyze these nuclear blasts:
Bidens tax dollars up in flames in Ukraine
I add some analysis regarding depleted uranium in a comment to this post today:
Fear Mongering: Radioactive Panic from Russian Missiles impact on munitions
In my post from 8 days ago, we found that the strike in Pavlohrad was also a nuclear strike:
Did the Ukraine War just go nuclear? Yes and no. I will explain as I tell you about the strike at Pavlohrad on April 30
I say "we found out", but readers should take the time to skim the comments on that one, particularly the pushback, to understand and evaluate the expertise and insight of the company we find ourselves among on this forum.
Nuclear weapons detonations gives completely another curve in radiation level change.
Radiation level does not rise day before nuclear detonation, and fall at the moment of detonation, it rises seriously at exact moment of detonation and then decline, fast initially, when short-living isotopes decay, slowly later, leaving some noticeably rised background.
Pavlograd and Ternopol sensors show nothing suspicious at all, only Khmelnitsky sensor data looks suspicious. You could check that by yourself.
Please, just keep it up. Everyone wants to see. More and more and more of your analysis.
Is this from one of those NATO-installed nuclear recording stations that totally report legitimate information and definitely won’t be used in a false flag?
No. It is from old European radiology monitoring network installed years after Chernobyl disaster.
It definitely could be used in a false flag, so everything coming from that source should be taken with a grain of salt.
It is just an easily accessible radiation monitoring service, where I found something interesting, that is too small to be a reason for any false flag, because 0.15uSv/h is nothing, it is less than average background in a lot of places on the Earth not connected with anything nuclear at all, but that change from one safe level to another perfectly safe level is interesting. Also, those who interested could track changes to see if level will fall in next days or will stay at that level for a long time.
Stop shouting they're nukes. Nukes have a distinct blast wave, the shock wave travels outwards in a cloud. Not simply up. They also have a distinctly white explosion. Brilliant white.
It is not uncommon to get radiation readings on most explosions. Where it will immediately spike and then return to normal levels.
Search YouTube on all nuke tests to confirm. Stop being tards over the mushroom cloud. It happens in many explosions. The explosion, flame, like fire goes upwards, apart from in its immediate inferno, blast radius, producing the mushroom. Especially if it targets an accelerator like fuel or explosives. Even oil rigs, have a mushroom. You seen that?
Nukes create a shock wave extending the impact radius into a cloud spreading out from the blast. Also the explosion is bright like the sun. White. On the bigger tests.
I didn't. Nuke explosions have no habit to produce radiation rise day before blast and drop right after the blast. :) Also they produce much larger levels in proximity to the blast than that tiny 0.06 uSv/h change, that will be definitely noticed by residents, because geiger counters are relatively popular home appliances in exUSSR after Chernobyl disaster.
Did you read my comment with details?
Or you just missed with answer to that comment - https://conspiracies.win/p/16b6IK81EE/x/c/4TtrbPUF30b ?
Who knows what caused the readings?
I was down voted in the other topic claiming they were nukes. I entered this topic and it's similar. Although apology for stating it is highly unlikely it was a nuke, and not specifically speculating on radiation readings.
The readings aren't particularly accurate, they are reading what exactly, looking for signatures of precisely what compounds?
Perhaps it is created by industry? Or involved in certain production of?
In any case the source was exploded.
In reality there needs to be graphs showing readings from conflict, and prior, over extensive periods. Otherwise we're speculating on the materials stored.
I really didn't think ammo produced this because it's incased. So it would have to be production, or let's suggest detonation, or an exhaust?
Nobody, except stuff who service it. But if it works OK and shows real current background, than it is an interesting phenomena.
No, they usually vary during days and seasons, but usually, if you had background level at one average for a long time and suddenly that average changed, it is a sign of either sensor malfunction, either sensor contamination (somebody put a vintage vase from uranium glass near, or trashed old smoke detector near), either change in background level.
Also, towns around have no such change at all, so it is not solar/space radiation change - you could choose "Area radius" on the top of that window and add other nearby towns graphs to the plot.
Will see, if background will continue to stay at the new level, then with high probability some incident with lightly radioactive materials happened.
May be. Or with same probability it could be delivery and extermination of that DU shells in warehouse.
Not necessary. If it is some old things, then case will become radioactive too from the inner core. The ton of old DU shells will have same effect as ton of uranium ore. If you bring a ton of uranium ore into the town, then background in the area around the storage will slightly rise.
In any case that looks like something radioactive appeared day before, then was destroyed. It can't be nuclear explosion or some serious accident with powerful nuclear material, and represent no any health danger.
I am debating that you're showing me a graph, and it hasn't showed me enough information.
I need to be able to see over a much longer period to be able to speculate. On current conflict and prior for months.
Ascertaining if there was abnormal activity, away from other local industry. It is quite possible many of the units there have been converted for war. It had quite a big industrial sector.
Then again it might have been incinerator day. They might have fired up the trash compactors.
I find this topic pointless. Incased shells don't give that reading. Not into the atmosphere.
So it is industrial, or weapons testing, or an exhaust.
You're trying to add a narrative I disagree with. You're speculating it was munitions. Except they're incased and they don't show these readings unless perhaps they're detonated in testing, production however can cause readings, so can various vents and exhausts. But how abnormal is it? Your graph hasn't established any other patterns to disapprove or validate your narrative.
I think they have that info, may be behind paywall.
My assumption is that natural variations are caused by changes in space weather, so nearby towns will show same change at the same time if change is natural. They does not. Also, daily variations are daily, so they don't last longer than day. Also, it is much more probable that you will see sharp rise from average with following staying at that level in case of accident. And if you suggest that there was previous accidents and they are regular, then background level in that area before the accident will not be equal to towns nearby. Backround easily could rise sharply due to accident, but it can't fall in the same manner, it is a long process. And background level jumps from previous consequent accidents will accumulate, so you have no chance to see exactly same level in that are as in nearby towns.
So, week of data with sharp rise in the middle is more than enough to make some conclusions if sensor is function normally and data is not manipulated.
Easy test for you for ~$1. Buy a 2% thoriated tungsten welding electrode or ask for a short remainder of such if you have a welder among friends. Thorium undergo alpha-decay, but it decays into other elements that have noticeable gamma emissions. So it will have very low gamma radiation, adding something like 0.05-0.1 uSv/h to your background in close proximity. Then put it in steel box. Wait a year. You will find that box will become slightly radioactive too, may be 0.02uSv/h over background. Longer exposure will give higher radioactivity of casing. You know, all that high energy alpha, beta and gamma do nasty things with innocent elements sometimes making radioactive isotopes from them.
As for "into atmosphere" big amount of slighlty radioactive material will emit much more gamma-quants around, so you will register them on relatively large distances. If you have a coal powerplant around - ride to it with geiger counter. Coal ash is slightly radioactive, and working coal powerplant have higher radiation level than working nuclear power plant due to heaps of coal ash nearby. You will register higher radiation levels few miles from ash storages of power plant. And it is not in atmosphere, because in that case you will have higher background at much longer distances. It is heaps of ash have a lot of decays and some of their gamma-quants have a higher chance to reach your detector.
I clearly stated that it is my speculation. What's the problem? Any speculation is good enough if it fits observations. Your speculation about some new manufacturing process that started in Khmelnitsky exactly day before explosion that needs radioactive materials in so big amounts that they are detectable from a distance (?) is not different at all and rises much more questions.
Sudden rising of background after few days of low background and staying at rised level for few days is abnormal. Usually it is a clear pattern of some accident with radioactive material.
Again, I told you that I'm not exclude sensor malfunction or local contamination, next few days will show if that is a case. If it was an accident that level will stay for a long time. If it was a malfunction or local contamination you will see abnormal sharp drop in background level.
Or that information is just manipulated for whatever reason.
IDK. If you will measure body temperature for a week and suddenly in the middle it will rise from 36.6°C to 38.2°C - will you need a full history of body temperature for years before or it will be enough for you to make some assumptions without full-scale statistics research?
The shape of curve change is suspicious, not amount of change or its absolute value.
I disagree. If munitions are in constant storage that reading will be high. Yes? Unless a base uses shielding, but those munitions will be transporting anyway. Can you provide readings from areas hosting bases with nukes or storing shells that supposedly produce radiation? It's the only way to confirm your theory. You could do this in Russia, or Europe, Asia, perhaps? Near an active nuclear base using transports. As an example we'd see this reading in Svastapol? Not quite but maybe. When it outfits the Fleet.
No that graph hasn't showed much going back 1 month prior. As I said months, prior to conflict and during conflict. I am speculating parts of the industrial sector got turned into war facilities. They go through periods of inactivity. If it is industry. You've done the same on citing munition transport.
We are trying to establish a few things. If industry causes it. If it is those munitions. If it is detonation. If it is an exhaust.
Another theory you haven't used is if there was a prior attack on the city, prior to the main explosions, the x2 hits in question. This often happens, an attack prior, testing air defenses.
Otherwise who knows. I am sticking with, encased shells don't provide that reading.
And if you need longer period, I found it from same source for you: https://redata.jrc.ec.europa.eu/chart/timeseries/daily/UA33429 From 15 Apr to 15 May. Long enough for you?
How to get it - https://remap.jrc.ec.europa.eu/Simple.aspx On the map find Khmelnitsky, click on hexagon, wait, on the left panel Khmelnitsky item will appear, click on it, window with chart will appear.