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Were the Nazis the bad guys?
posted 2 years ago by Eisenhorn 2 years ago by Eisenhorn +6 / -4

Serious question to those who think that Russia's war against Ukraine is justified because of "UKRAINE IS NAZI":

Why do you think that the Nazis were the bad guys?

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– CrazyRussian 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

If Ukraine is nazi, then they are Jewish shabbes goy "nazi".

No any sane person from real modern NS circles will ever follow jewish leaders and jewish narratives.

Ukrainian "nazism" is completely product of Jewish gamemasters. To create LARP state and nation they needed nation heroes. Since all possible Ukrainian (i.e. Russian or Polish at the time) heroes was on the Russian side, and that does not fit into a narrative that "Ukrainians" are "not Russians", Jews happily dig out different collaborationist scam from WWII times, like Bandera or Schuhevich (a Jew, meanwhile). As soon as that scam become national heroes of new LARP nation, all that Third Reich stuff comes along, but obviously without antijewish component.

So it goes. We have a LARP miroring Third Reich symbolic, structure, ideology and so on, with main feature completely castrated.

Real NS followers would have get rid of all that Jewish Ukraine government, MSM, US shills and other jewish stuff in the first place. And hardly would have ever do the shit, jews and their puppets did in Ukraine for the last 30 years. There would have been no any reason for any tensions with Russians in the first place for completely nationalistic reasons and no need for creation LARP nation with only narrative of being "non-Russian".

Meanwhile many real NS from Ukraine, who was heavily hunted by new authorities not long before and especially right after 2014 flee to Russia or Poland at the time. There was even an agreement between Russian and Ukrainian NS in 00s about mutual asylum in case of prosecution. Sounds unbelievable, but it was Ukrainians who eventually had to use it. May be you heard about persecutions of Russian-speaking people on Ukraine, but along with that crap, SBU also hunted for every real NS/WS person they could find to clean the field for LARPers who was already prepared by Jewish gamemasters.

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– Eisenhorn [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

So why is Russia calling them Nazis and using that as a reason for the invasion? Do you agree with Russia's claim?

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– CrazyRussian 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

So why is Russia calling them Nazis and using that as a reason for the invasion?

Because they are calling themselves so. All that parroting of Third Reich naming, rethoric and symbolic. So it is very easy to use that in propaganda.

Do you agree with Russia's claim?

You mean Russia's claim for the land separated as Ukraine state on the break of USSR, or claim that war is because of "nazis"?

If you are not aware, USSR fight against Germany in WWII not because they was national-socialists, but because Germany break agreement and invaded.

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– Eisenhorn [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I mean Russia's claim that they invaded because Ukraine needs to be "denazified".

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– CrazyRussian 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Obviously not.

If that was the case, all Ukraine Jewish government and oligarchs had to be "denazified" in the first place, since this "nazism" is totally Jewish.

Russia invaded to prevent possible invasion of Ukraine into Donbass and joining NATO. The whole situation was set by TPTB to destroy Europe and potentially damage Russia. However, Russian national interests meet with interests of TPTB in whole, so all that mess become so weird, that TPTB now try to find a way out without allowing any side to declare victory. NWO shills from both sides work hard to not allow any definite resolve of that mess.

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– Eisenhorn [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Pretty stupid of Putin to fall into a trap that is so easily seen that even you recognize it.

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– CrazyRussian 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

There was a lot of traps, really. If he will not fall into one, then he falls into another. And don't forget that he is NWO shill. So he choose the trap that could give him personally maximum benefits.

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– Primate98 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Just as a principle to better understand the world, I have adopted the view that, if there is something that "we all know is simple", then it's actually complex, and if there is something that "we all know is complex", then it's actually simple.

So "we all know the original Nazis were bad," and that "Russia hates Nazis," right? Rest assured the real story is complex.

Similarly, we're all supposed to know that, yes, Ukraine has a bunch of militarized Nazis and that the West has supported them, but don't worry about it because the situation is complex. Again, you may trust that the real story is fairly simple.

Always keep in mind that behind all the announcements and geopolitical machination of those who seek to dominate the world lies the idea of deception. Sun Tzu pointed out to us that all warfare was based on it.

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– EnoughOfYourLies 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

nazi were a criminal construct employed to implement the balfour declaration

full on zionists from day one and plenty of them were jews.

So, yes nazi are putrid criminals that honestly have no idea of their own origin, so mostly brain dead simpletons that are just in it for the ability to spread hate and violence.

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– TallestSkil 2 points 2 years ago +3 / -1

Russia's war against Ukraine is justified because of "UKRAINE IS NAZI”:

Does anyone even maintain that narrative anymore?

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– Eisenhorn [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Yes, Russia and the Russkie shills.

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– TallestSkil 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Go back to Reddit.

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– Ok_Pragmatism_7926 0 points 2 years ago +2 / -2

Yes.

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– freedomlogic 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I tend to subscribe to the idea that anyone who practices eugenics is likely evil, at the very least a sociopath.

People often focus on the jews, but hitler killed plenty of people who he felt had nothing to contribute to the gene pool. I wonder how many mentally unstable or mentally challenged people were thrown into the gas chambers. Id wager alot.

Thats assuming we are being told the truth about ww2. I know some people think the whole holocaust was faked. And I certainly doubt the official numbers.

They were killing people left and right over there, do you really think frank annes diary was just madeup?

Anyway, they want to do the same thing here. They already kinda do in canada, where people are only given hospital services if they are deserving of them. ( I know I wasnt. )

I also believe the the ukraine russia war is either a proxy war, or just completely made up. I tend to subscribe to the theory that war is really just a new age form of sacrificing people to the gods.

Gasp i know, its almost like people can have their own opinions.

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– DwydeShrude 1 point 2 years ago +3 / -2

There doesn't have to be a good guy in any conflict.

Whatever you think about nazis, past or present, the Allies dropped two atom bombs on civilian targets and obliterated Dresden with firebombs. If you think those were really "military targets" then pretty much any city in the US could be called a military target.

The US and NATO have been riding WWII victory over the nazis to engage in perpetual war since then and have committed uncountable atrocities for corrupt reasons. We drone strike entire innocent families and no one bats an eye because "we're the good guys!" of course.

Are the nazis bad? They lost, that's really all that matters.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Firstly there's the whole concentration camps for political dissidents thing, and "political dissident" was a very wide net in Nazi Germany.

Barring that, the Nazis were still the aggressors in WWII, attempting to take over europe and russia through military force. That alone makes them the bad guys.

As far as Ukraine goes, I have no idea what to think because there is zero reliable reporting on the whole thing. You either get NATO or Russian propaganda.

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– Don_Keebaughs 1 point 2 years ago +2 / -1

From 1918-1933, Germany experienced the exact same jewish subversion, degeneracy, and corruption that we see today. The Nazis effectively removed jewish control of their government, MSM, and monetary system. This was their real crime and was the actual reason for WW2.

Thus, the jews have tirelessly vilified them with fairytales of atrocities, to prevent the same tactics from being used again.

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– CrazyRussian 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

From 1917-1935, Russia/USSR experienced the exact same jewish subversion, degeneracy, and corruption that we see today. Stalin effectively removed jewish control of his government, MSM, and ideology. This was his real crime and was the actual reason for WW2.

See how things come together?

Two countries who get rid of jews in power and start to develop at enormous rate and even establish cooperation were a deadly threat to the world elites. They had to be stopped and elites found most effective way to do it. However, USSR suddenly held that round, so it was destroyed by other means later.

Meanwhile that thing between Germany and Russia happens again and again. As soon as Germany and Russia finding ways to cooperate, something happens with third party behind the scenes.

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– Mad_King_Kalak 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

Where they bad guys? Yes. Were they worse then the Soviets? Debatable. However, I come down on the side that the Soviets were worse by some measures.

In the end, in Europe at least, I agree with General Patton, who said "we defeated the wrong enemy" right after the war. That's why, he was (probably) assassinated right after he said that.

But Soviet Russia of then, isn't Putin's Russia of today. Neither are the Nazis of then the Ukranians of today.

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– CrazyRussian 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

What's with that Patton guy? I saw that name along with that quote from time to time, so I read some memoirs about and Patton bios from "The Patton Society", and get an impression that he was very average military, who gained popularity showing his ass to his colleagues and made a career due to close relations with Eisenhower (showed him ass too?). Patton never participate in any serious battles (which is somehow posed as his care about his troops) and often had kind of hysterics against his subordinates, but with higher command was very polite. Definitely not a person to listen. Not to harm somebody feelings or destroy a nation hero, but that's weird.

However, I agree with his saying about "defeating wrong enemy". UK should have been defeated, not Germany in WWII. Hitler was fooled to attack USSR, by UK, Instead, better he had to ally with USSR to get rid of British Crown and their inbreed jewish shabbesaristocracy forever. USA had to stay apart, or may be deal with Japan warmongers only. We would have completely different and much better world now, I guess. And may be Jews would have never obtained such power they have now.

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– Mad_King_Kalak 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

Patton was one of the better generals the US had, and colorful personality at that. For example, he famously wore a pearl handled revolver. His popularity today in a large part comes from a 1970 film (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066206/) where he was portrayed by a great actor, helping enhance his reputation, but he was famous enough for the movie to be made in the first place.

In the world's history of great generals, like Napoleon, or Scipio Africanus, etc. he'd be down in the rankings a bit, but definitely an honorable mention. I quite disagree with your assessment of his abilities, but meh, you went out of your way to be somewhat civil, so it's all good.

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– CrazyRussian 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

Looking from the point of view of personality, yes, you are right, he was a colorful person among his brothers in arms. May be I just too used to generals bios with schemes of the battles, and all that boring stuff. From the latter point of view somewone like Bradley looks better f.e.

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– Mad_King_Kalak 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Patton is should be best remembered as one who often took the German's blitzkrieg tactics and used it against them, from North Africa, through Italy, across France, then all the way across the Rhine, starting with an army of unprepared men and ending with skilled veterans. If that doesn't deserve an honorable mention, I don't know what does.

If he was in the US military today, he'd have resigned his commission.

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– Eisenhorn [S] 1 point 2 years ago +2 / -1

All warfare is based. Sun Tzu said that, you know.

You obviously have not read Sun Tzu.

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– Traxx -3 points 2 years ago +1 / -4

Of course they were the bad guys. The others were also bad but you should research "controlled opposition" before jumping with the 1st guy who seemingly opposes the "bad guys". He might be placed there just for that reason.

Thule society. Learn history. Stop writing post that could be easily answered in a 5-min search in bitchute or odysee... Stop wasting everyone's time with your ignorance. Thanks in advance.

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– Critical_Thinker77 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

you get ratio'd in every comment you make, take the hint

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– Traxx -1 points 2 years ago +1 / -2

I get the hint - shills hate being exposed. Now cry me a river, please.

If you don't like facts, what are you even doing in here? :D

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