I consider myself a fairly average conspiracy researcher. I delved into the most open conspiracies, such as 9/11, JFK, Nixon, etc, and come to much the same conclusions as many of you have.
Being new to to all of this (just finished two years on .win) and also being 19, I also see things from a different perspective. Namely, I am a free speech absolutist*. Asterisk intended.
A free speech absolutist* believes that all speech, even that he disagrees with or is offended by, be allowed to persist, unless it is of an illegal nature (rape, pedophilia, death threats, doxxing, etc). A normal free speech absolutist, without the asterisk, believes that all of that should also be allowed.
But that is anarchy. Anarchy has its purpose, but its purpose is not the internet. The Internet functions best under a set of agreed but laissez faire guidelines. One of these guidelines dictates what content on the internet is illegal. Is private information necessarily illegal to exist on the internet? No. But selling that private information is illegal, both in real life and on the internet. We all have been told the potential problems that could surface from having your private information sold online to the highest bidder.
Identity theft is dangerous and understandably illegal, that much is certain. But what of other things on the internet? Surely porn isn't illegal, is it? Well, it is illegal under US law to knowingly distribute pornographic material to minors or leave it in a place where it can be accessed by minors. And yet we have a tool to do that in the palm of our hand or on our desk. Are they illegal by that reason? No! But their use, and the websites they can access, must be regulated to ensure that our children are not corrupted by pornographic images. And porn is certainly dangerous; why else would [they] want to put it into schools?
So what about flat earth? It's not a thoroughly dangerous topic to anyone; indeed, it's the CIA's favorite tool to distract and divide conspiracy researchers. However, some could argue that its proponents are invading this sub. Ok. And? Teach them to study other things. Teach them to love God and worship God. If you pile into every single flat earth post, you give them undue attention. Rather, if you feel like giving a well-thought out rebuttal to their theory, do so, but give them another topic to look into instead that makes more sense, like Hollow Earth or Expanding Earth.
There is no need to ban Flat Earth discussion. It is meaningless and Orwellian. Censorship should have no place in a community driven to its own website by censorship. Have you forgotten so quickly where this place used to be?
You unfortunately missed the free speech internet! If you could see the conspiracies people were talking about online in ‘93 you would understand why the old timers are always against the janitors ruining everything. When the internet got dumbed down so the masses could join it was basically over. The modern internet sucks balls in comparison. And you can see that clearly by what happened on Reddit and what will eventually happen here too. You’re better off just going to the library and asking for some rare books to read. Good luck to you kid.
Well that's why I want this motion to fail. We can't just keep dumbing everything down so more people can join. We need forums of elite free thinkers to find all of this stuff and condense it into things that laypeople can sorta process. If we dumb everything down we play right into their hands.
Well that’s exactly the problem; we’ve achieved idiocracy! The real internet is in the process of being rolled up and put back in the drawer. What is left will be the domain of the circle jerkers, the emotionally starved brats, the normies, and, worst of all, the super jannies. My personal opinion is that, these days, the internet should just be used to organize people you know in real life. Get together in a room, have some beers, and talk about what’s really going on. People online these days can’t even stomach seeing shit they don’t already agree with. It’s over.
Hey, I voted “Nay”.
most intelligent statement made yet on the issue.
And how ironic is it that I have never had the life experience you guys have all had that led you to this? I was basically force-fed by Grandma, so I don't understand most of it, but I can think.
It’s not censorship when the speech is meant to disrupt, and nothing else.
So many bad takes and poor understanding of the concept of free speech.
Free speech isn't for the speech you agree with.
"So many bad takes and poor understanding of the concept of free speech."
Physician, heal thy self !!
FE is not speech.
In the same way that playing loud death metal in the middle of a debate, is not speech.
Just like spam is not speech.
It sure is. The question is why dont you like it?
Why cant you disprove it?
It is done easy enough - so why the caterwauling and pearl clutching from those that seem to think it is both at the same time a fringe, kooky idiot theory - and also - dangerous enough to violate the founding principles of this place?
Makes no sense, and when things like this make no sense - it is about control. Which makes you... not the good guy.
Arguing in favor of engaging with FE? Suspect.
“Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”
M. Twain
Deflection of point - Much more sus.
Tell me, how much censorship is required before you feel safe?
Or you can become smarter and be able to discuss ideas you dont like/agree with?
Again, you arent behaving like a good guy here. Why not go to reddit? Is it that it is someone else telling people what they can say, when in reality it should be YOU telling people what to think!!! Right? Be better my friend.
Then don't argue with those you think are fools :)
I agree.
you say this like its fact, but its illogical to discuss the veracity of Flat Earth by making such an unfounded claim about the CIA
how is expanding earth any different than flat earth? and why would a wild unprovable theory like hollow earth or expanding earth make more sense than a simple logical proof that shows the sun is local. you know?
why not just discuss the veracity of the evidence.
i dont think any conspiracy theorist that doesn't understand the earth is not a globe is worth taking seriously.
believing in the ridiculously easy to research and disprove heliocentric model, means you're still programmed and you cant apply reason and logic.
You do it. Over on FE research.
No. I'll do it here. This place is far more Godless.
Are you a cuck for christ?
Aha, I have found the crux of your failure of understanding.
Their salaries are predicated upon them doing nothing but spamming the same lies every single day.
They’re not real users. There’s nothing they can be taught. They’re not here for discussion. They have a script, they stick to the script, and when they’re disproven they post the same lies again the next day, from the same script. A German veteran of World War I had something to say about these people, back in the day.
Removing proven lies is not censorship. They have their own containment board, just like the Qult does. Qult spam isn’t allowed here, either. No one is complaining about that. It’s a fed psy-op, just like flat earth. As soon as the flatties are banned, they’ll shut up forever, get new accounts, and spam some new hoax. Then we’ll ban that one, too. By doing this, we will eventually distill the board down to only true conspiracies, simply by viewing the actions of those paid to post lies! It’s great. But it can’t happen without getting rid of paid shilling and proven hoaxes.
muh psyop!! reeeeeeeeeee. i bet you go to bed with a NASA night light
I can’t wait for you fucks to be permanently banned.
As soon as the flatties are banned, they’ll shut up forever, get new accounts, and spam some new hoax. Then we’ll ban that one, too. By doing this, we will eventually distill the board down to only true conspiracies, simply by viewing the actions of those paid to post lies! It’s great. But it can’t happen without getting rid of paid shilling and proven hoaxes.
Great decision lmao, you just outlined how you could be played like a puppet with stings.
We have enough bureaucracy in every fucking detail of our lives. Let the conspiracy forum be an anarchy.
Literally outlined the opposite, yeah.
Nah.
Nah, truth is more important than freedom.
Looks like you came out of the closet as a lefty fag
Uh… no.
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Ben Franklin
NOTE: OP is a Qultist who made a flat earth post on gayawaking which got instantly removed
Are we really gunna let the retards at GAy make more sense than us?
Yes, I am on GAW do you have a problem with that? Read my posts. I am no shill. Censorship is wrong but I have learned to not annoy the mods too much; I didn't realize that a post merely mentioning flat earth as a thoroughly debunked thing was against their rules.
What, no response champ?
So why is it ok for it to be against their rules but not ours?
Flat Earth is Operation Mockingbird. Hence my downvotes from the fed shills
What the fuck ever you nasa loving cocksucker. You are the one who believes all the scifi a bunch of freemasons tell you.
People who believe in FE do not have merit as human beings.
Therefore they have no rights.
The only thing they deserve at this point is ridicule followed by ostracism.
I don't even need to ask. I can already tell you would support the Nazis with every ounce of your being.
You’re an idiot. Support the Nazis?
Stop projecting your own feelings onto others.
Fuck nazis and all the white supremacist fed larpers here.
Fuck you, as well.
If you support FE in any shape or form you are suspect.
I don't support FE at all. It is absurd and scientifically impossible. But i also don't support censorship, especially of ideas.
That’s not what’s being suggested.
I think you’re a fed.
You don’t support flat earth, you just support the aggressive psyop that pushes it here.
Go. Fuck. Yourself. Suspect af.
Get a life, kid. The only psyop here is thinking that FE is so dangerous it has to be censored from a free speech community.
That is precisely what is being suggested, and you are on record supporting it.