I suspect they may just be “young”, but certainly could be a bot/shill.
If you disagree with them about anything, you are “a shill” and should “drink bleach” :(
A lot of poor suckers fall for the “everyone who doesn’t agree with me is a rabbi/jidf/shill/etc.” routine. It is a sad tactic to ensure an echo chamber, and designed to prevent learning or discussion of any kind.
Yes I’ve noticed this also and it saddens me, the guy runs out of arguments very quickly and it quickly just turns into nonsense and name calling, you can already see him doing it in this thread lol.
He loves doing the classic divide and conquer technique, splitting up what you said into individual sentences and then responding to each. That in tandem with his abrasive mis-quoting is an effective “shilling” tactic to get you to reply. It’s sad that some don’t see through it, but Im not surprised. He’s eloquent when / where he needs to be to cover his ass and manipulate others.
That’s literally not what divide and conquer is, you fucking flat earth imbecile. If you don’t want every sentence of your post replied to, stop having every sentence be wrong.
Fun fact: when I provide a citation for what I say and the faggot paid shill who replies doesn’t, I don’t have to say anything else. That’s not how arguments work. I am under no obligation to say anything else.
Explain why you think people who refuse to prove their own claims deserve a platform.
Neat, another coward. Go on, fuckstick. Prove wrong a single thing I’ve said. Explain to me why you don’t want shills removed from the community. No one said a goddamn thing you claimed. You’re just incapable of reading what’s actually written.
I don't hide behind vapid insult and tell everyone I disagree with to kill themselves. My thoughts can stand by their own merits, and I merely avoid trolls like you - not run away.
Prove wrong a single thing I’ve said
What would be the point? You'd just ignore it to feel better about yourself. Your behavior is both shameful and sad.
Why would you seriously consider what a "fuckwit" had to say anyway? Especially if it contradicted your infallible ego. Lol.
Of course you have said things that are wrong. To assume otherwise is incredibly proud, stupid, and foolish.
Explain to me why you <em>don’t</em> want shills removed from the community
This is a bit complicated. Of course I want shills gone, but there are 2 things I don't think you've fully considered
Many shills are unwitting / "useful idiots" / misguided. They need help, not censure or verbal abuse.
The disingenuous (often paid) shills are a real menace both in reality and "cyberspace". Learning how to deal with them here is akin to learning how to deal with them there as well. Trolls/shills feed on conflict, and wither without it. Shills can be good/valuable practice, although certainly tiresome.
No one said a goddamn thing you claimed
The OP did. Did you post in the wrong place accidentally?
You’re just incapable of reading what’s actually written
Always accuse the opponent of what you are doing eh? Classic shill move. I read and earnestly respond. I don't discard and vapidly insult reflexively like you often do.
Great. Why are you talking about things no one here does? Are you physically capable of disproving anything I say?
My thoughts can stand by their own merits
Not when they have no evidence, they can’t.
and I merely avoid trolls like you - not run away.
Translation: “I am so afraid of you that I refuse to reply to you because I’m terrified that you will prove me wrong, so if I don’t mention you in any way I can get away with lying about you and you won’t notice.”
What would be the point?
Thanks for admitting that nothing you have ever said has been correct.
You'd just ignore it
No one cares about me. I don’t matter. You’re so fucking narcissistic that you can’t comprehend that no one else is as vapid as you are.
It’s not about me, you autistic piece of shit. It’s about truth itself, for the sake of everyone else, and having a *cited and sourced record of objective reality. If you don’t care about that, get the fuck off this website. We’re not here to post lies or opinions or fantasies. We’re here to uncover genuine conspiracies with real proof.
to feel better about yourself. Your behavior is both shameful and sad.
Project somewhere sense; it’s not working on me.
Why would you seriously consider
No one cares about me. I don’t matter. You’re so fucking narcissistic that you can’t comprehend that no one else is as vapid as you are.
It’s not about me or what I consider. You’re so much of a brain dead communist that you think everyone engages in relativism like you do. Unlike you, I am capable of entertaining an idea that I do not personally like, never mind an idea which is objectively false.
Especially if it contradicted your infallible ego.
I have no ego. I’m worthless. I don’t matter. You’re so fucking narcissistic that you can’t comprehend that no one else is as vapid as you are.
You have absolutely nothing to back up any of your claims, which is why you continue to attack me personally instead of simply humiliating me (boy, wouldn’t I look silly since I have such a big ego) by actually posting cited and sourced proof of your claims. Whoops.
Of course you have said things that are wrong.
Name one, you subhuman coward.
To assume otherwise is incredibly proud, stupid, and foolish.
Neat. So you have no examples?
there are two things
Holy shit, I agree completely. You’re absolutely right on both counts, which is why I have trouble with your complaints regarding point two. Demanding proof/evidence is our website’s immune system. How we deal with genuine shills is by demanding proof/evidence of the claims they make. When they refuse to provide proof/evidence, that’s it. We’ve caught them. After that, there’s no discussion except that of our own, because the proof-refuser has nothing more of any value to add to us. We can’t just let it slide. We can entertain the ideas presented by the shill, perhaps simply because we’d be interested in seeing where those ideas take us (to learn what they’re going to attack us with next), but we cannot simply allow ourselves to accept claims or statements when the faggot who posted them has no evidence for them. Ever. Zero tolerance. Otherwise we no longer stand for truth and can no longer parse genuine conspiracies from hoaxes (malicious or benevolent).
The OP did
Okay, yes, my mistake in the sentence. I should have said, “No one actually said a thing you claimed.” The ambiguity was in “claim of statement” vs. “actual statement.” My fault.
Why are you talking about things no one here does?
What are you talking about?
Not when they have no evidence, they can’t.
Ideas can stand on their own without evidence. And ideas that are supported by evidence are often wrong/worthless. Evidence is easy.
So you have no examples?
You misunderstand. It is you who should have the examples, not me. It is purely your foolish vanity that prevents it. Deludedly believing you are always right is stupid and vain/proud.
Project somewhere
Cool it there freud. I thought you were against the “communists” and their nonsense...
I have no ego.
Then act like it.
I’m worthless. I don’t matter
I disagree.
I am capable of entertaining an idea that I do not personally like
Not without vapid insult and calls to suicide you can’t :(
Holy shit, I agree completely
Excellent. Though your major difficulty is in disagreeing civilly, i’ll consider this a step in the right direction.
Demanding proof/evidence is our website’s immune system
I understand why you think this, but it’s wrong. We can request such proof/evidence, and arbitrate that any refusal to provide such is a reason to discard/ignore/prevent consideration, but making petulant demands is for children.
All claims, including facts which are merely one type of claim, regardless of source are our responsibility to verify thoroughly before accepting. It is the burden of all students. We can ask for help in this, but we can’t demand nor expect it. Furthermore, it is a process and skillset that we refine by doing ourselves.
In a formal debate (a silly game; base pageantry) the burden of proof falls on the claimant. In real life, it falls on us.
How we deal with genuine shills is by demanding proof/evidence of the claims they make
Citation please. Do you see my point? Demanding evidence and citation is a common troll/shill technique - not one that is employed by earnest students.
We can’t just let it slide
Again, i understand the reasoning and logic behind such criteria. If that is your arbitrary line, so be it. The process of validation is subjective, and we all must make such determinations for ourselves. However, there are many reasons a person may reasonably not be forthcoming with evidence, for one - petulant demand. Another is that commonly it is a flimsy rhetorical technique trolls use to waste time. Bothering to actually explain further to a disingenuous party is an even bigger waste of time.
but we cannot simply allow ourselves to accept claims or statements when the faggot who posted them has no evidence for them
In general, i agree. Furthermore we cannot allow ourselves to accept claims/statements/facts merely because they have evidence that supports them. More rigorous validation is required, and - as i said - evidence is easy.
Otherwise we no longer stand for truth and can no longer parse genuine conspiracies from hoaxes (malicious or benevolent).
I avoid the word truth most of the time. Though the pursuit of truth is the ideal, i am generally more than happy to accept/obtain validated fact in lieu of it.
As for parsing genuine conspiracies from hoaxes - that is a much larger discussion.
“No one actually said a thing you claimed.”
I still have no idea what you are talking about. The OP made this post to say that you were a shill, and i responded to it. If i said something that the OP didn’t or others in the thread didn’t that is a good thing because i am adding to the conversation... right? Perhaps you could quote a specific statement that you take issue with, and we could discuss that specifically?
Literally no. Congratulations on admitting you’re insane.
And ideas that are supported by evidence are often wrong/worthless.
Wrong.
Evidence is easy.
No.
You misunderstand.
No.
It is you who should have the examples, not me.
Thank you for admitting that everything you said is a lie. Presented without evidence = dismissed without evidence. They’re your claims. You have to prove them or they’re going to be ignored.
It is purely your foolish vanity that prevents it.
Said the psychopath who refuses to prove his own claims.
Deludedly believing you are always right is stupid and vain/proud.
Good thing no one here is doing that, right? Fuck off, illiterate.
Cool it there freud. I thought you were against the “communists” and their nonsense...
“You’re a communist because you called outmybehavior in which communists engage!”
Goddamn, you’re shit at your job.
Then act like it.
I do. Get the fuck over it, you retarded sack of communist shit. You still cannot reply to the topic of discussion and abjectly refuse to do so. You’re a psychopathic paid shill and a moral relativist. You have nothing but your emotions. Burn in hell.
I disagree.
You don’t get to disagree. It’s not a matter of agreement. You have no voice in the matter.
Not without vapid insult and calls to suicide you can’t :(
Can. Already explained. You didn’t read. Get fucked.
your major difficulty is in disagreeing civilly
Truth isn’t a matter of agreement.
You don’t get to disagree with truth.
My people are being exterminated from the face of the Earth, so you deserve no civility when you post lies.
I understand why you think this, but it’s wrong. We can request such proof/evidence, and arbitrate that any refusal to provide such is a reason to discard/ignore/prevent consideration
Right, so… demand. Words have definitions.
but making petulant demands is for children.
Cool, we’re demanding you post evidence or that you kill yourself. Get over it, you fucking child. You don’t get to endlessly post lies and claim that your fee fees told you it’s okay because it’s true because you said so.
All claims, including facts which are merely one type of claim, regardless of source are our responsibility to verify thoroughly before accepting.
No shit.
We can ask for help in this, but we can’t demand nor expect it.
Then don’t “demand” or “expect” your lies to
go unquestioned
remain up
result in you NOT being told to commit suicide for being a communist, a paid shill, and a moral relativist, since there is no possibility of discussion with a member of these groups, a priori
Furthermore, it is a process and skillset that we refine by doing ourselves.
And I’m somehow not doing it myself by continuing to bog you, a communist paid shill moral relativist, down in self-incrimination?
In a formal debate the burden of proof falls on the claimant
Thanks for admitting you have no proof of your claims and they are dismissed.
In real life, it falls on us.
Thanks for admitting that you have no proof and that your claims are dismissed.
It’s really.
Really.
Simple to comprehend.
You say thing, you prove thing. If you no can prove, you no say. If other say thing with no proof, demand other proof. If no proof come, dismiss other thing.
If these standards are too stringent for you, find somewhere else to spam your lies. Like reddit. They love what you say there.
Not really. I’m not a mind reader. If you can’t explain what the heck it is you’re saying, i can’t possibly be expected to understand you.
Congratulations on admitting you’re insane
Perhaps, but i think i’ve just given it more thought than you. Ideas most often do not spring from evidence, nor is evidence required to support them. Ideas can be and often are compelling in and of themselves.
You have to prove them or they’re going to be ignored
Lol. This is not a debate. Currently it barely qualifies as a conversation due to your pigheaded adversarial demeanor. As i said, your belief/assumption that everything you have said is correct is stupid, vain, and proud. Pride is a fools fortress and shame’s cloak. Cast it aside if you can.
You don’t get to disagree
Then how is it i can and do?
Can
followed by
Get fucked
This is another demonstration of your disagreeing civilly?
Truth isn’t a matter of agreement.
Agreed.
You don’t get to disagree with truth.
Lol. You “get” to disagree with anything. Most (virtually all) people who claim to have inerrant truth are both wrong and religious zealots. You can and should disagree with “truth” when that “truth” is false.
My people are being exterminated from the face of the Earth, so you deserve no civility when you post lies.
Why can’t a person just be f*ing wrong anymore? Why is everyone automatically a liar? And how is being uncivil to those who could help you in your struggle, or are on your side in that struggle, going to help? If you commit yourself to acting in such a way, you are preventing collaboration. Divide and conquer is a simple game and a fundamental tactic of our common enemy. Perhaps you should stop helping them?
Words have definitions
Yes, they do. You can of course demand anything you wish, but you are not entitled to receive anything. You will catch more flies with honey, and demanding/screaming at them will always tend to drive them away.
since there is no possibility of discussion with a member of these groups
In some ways i agree with you. However, just like the shills - many of those people in those groups are not willing participants. They need help, not banishment. The disingenuous that push such philosophies/ideologies as attack are, as you say - not worth discussing with.
And I’m somehow not doing it myself by continuing to bog you
Correct. (repeatedly) Making petulant demands is not research/validation and will not help you foster, build, or refine those skills.
You may, and perhaps should, ask for help in validation - but demanding it is foolish and a common troll/shill tactic.
they are dismissed
You can dismiss anything you want. But don’t be surprised when your close minded and needlessly adversarial approach prevents you from learning new things and effectively communicating.
You say thing, you prove thing
You haven’t thought this through. Proof is not something you can give another (outside of mathematics). It is too subjective. You must do it for yourself, though you can request help!
If you no can prove, you no say
Lol. No speculation, no thought - “just the facts mam”?
If no proof come, dismiss other thing
Citation please. Provide proof.
Am i getting through to you at all? You seem caught in a loop, and are advocating for a common troll/shill tactic.
If these standards are too stringent for you
They are self defeating and closed minded to me, but you are welcome to them! In general the “put up or shut up” approach is a sound one, but you are both taking it too far and being uncivil as well as adversarial which only prevents communication and collaboration.
That you can’t maintain conversational context for even a single post. Even AI Dungeon does better than that.
Perhaps, but i think i’ve just given it more thought than you.
Nah.
Ideas most often do not spring from evidence
No one said otherwise.
nor is evidence required to support them
If you expect anyone to take you seriously or believe you, they do.
Ideas can be and often are compelling in and of themselves.
Nope. The compelling part is when they’re truthful. Truth is innate to being.
Lol. This is not a debate.
Thanks for admitting your ideas are false.
Currently it barely qualifies as a conversation
Yes, that’d be because I’m only mocking you and not pretending otherwise. Your physical inability to stay on topic or prove your claims has LONG been proven. This is just to keep you away from sane people.
your pigheaded adversarial demeanor
Truth is like that, yeah. It doesn’t waver in the face of autistic retards who think that subjectivism exists. I try to reflect truth.
As i said, your belief/assumption that everything you have said is correct is stupid
Good thing I have no such belief or assumption, isn’t it? Burn in hell, you fucking retard. If anything I said was wrong, you would have proven it long ago. But you believe proof doesn’t exist conceptually. You can’t do it.
Pride is a fools fortress and shame’s cloak. Cast it aside if you can.
Cool, no pride here. Project somewhere else, fuckstick.
Then how is it i can and do?
You don’t. Enjoy your mockery.
This is another demonstration of your disagreeing civilly?
No, you’re not human, so you deserve no civility. How many times does this need said?
Lol. You “get” to disagree with anything.
Enjoy your mockery.
You can and should disagree with “truth” when that “truth” is false.
Then it’s not truth. Words have definitions. I refuse to play your saussurean games, relativist.
Why can’t a person just be f*ing wrong anymore?
You are wrong. I am explaining why you are wrong. You are reacting as a shill does in the face of this.
Why is everyone automatically a liar?
Why do you beat your wife? (Honestly, do you trust anything some retard on the Internet says, sight unseen?)
And how is being uncivil to those who could help you in your struggle
You’ve already admitted you don’t believe truth exists. You’re on the other side of the struggle.
If you commit yourself to acting in such a way, you are preventing collaboration.
Yep, I don’t give a shit about collaborating with people who want me exterminated. “You have to let gays and nonwhites and atheists into your movement because they’re totally on your side!” Fuck your civnat bullshit.
Divide and conquer is a simple game and a fundamental tactic of our common enemy.
My common enemy is subjectivity. Everything stems from subjectivism.
Perhaps you should stop helping them?
Perhaps you should stop being a subjectivist.
You can of course demand anything you wish, but you are not entitled to receive anything.
You can demand your ideas be entertained without proof, but you are not entitled to anything but mockery.
You will catch more flies with honey
No, actually, and you’ll catch even more with a pile of shit, but that doesn’t matter to me because I deal in truth.
and demanding/screaming at them will always tend to drive them away.
Good.
many of those people in those groups are not willing participants. They need help
You can dismiss anything you want. But don’t be surprised when your close minded and needlessly adversarial approach prevents you from learning new things and effectively communicating.
Cool. Hasn’t so far. Has prevented me from falling for lies, though.
You haven’t thought this through
Have. Indeed, had to dumb it down to elementary level comprehension.
Proof is not something you can give another (outside of mathematics).
lol, you’re mentally ill.
It is too subjective.
“Truth is subjective,” yes, you’re mentally ill. Just like I said before. You’re beyond salvation.
No speculation, no thought
NOT WHEN THE TOPIC IS NOT A MATTER OF OPINION, YOU FUCKING RELATIVIST.
Citation please. Provide proof.
Right. Like that. It’s not that hard to demand it of others.
Am i getting through to you at all?
No, I don’t engage with proven psychopaths except to mock them and waste their time. You’re a relativist. You’re beyond saving.
You seem caught in a loop
Congrats, you noticed that I’m purposely dragging you into a loop to further mock your inability to comprehend objectivity as a concept. We’ll go around again if you like.
and are advocating for a common troll/shill tactic.
Yeah, trolls and shills always want to know the truth. They always demand evidence for claims. That’s definitely how they behave.
My people are being exterminated from the face of the Earth. I don’t give a single flying fuck about hurting the feelings of a paid shill on a meaningless Internet website. I want you to kill yourself, in real life, for no other reason than thinking that I should give a shit what some genocidal communist whore thinks about me. Censor yourself, then, you fucking milquetoast.
as well as adversarial
Good. It’s called an immune response. I don’t want my white blood cells to welcome the cancer in and show it where all the good organs are.
which only prevents communication and collaboration.
Meh, While the persona behind the account may be abrasive I have no issue with it.
Laughable when posting the pro economic shit, but plenty of the comments written I end up voting in agreement.
There are plenty worse, I am against people spreading cancellation, misinformation, bullshit and fear mongering, I do not think this one falls into that category.
just when you declare to be against communism, leaving the only choice a fiat based exchange system, all run by the criminal khazarian, so its all fuckered.
OY VEY HE'S A SHILL BECAUSE HE DOESN’T ACCEPT THE FLAT EARTH HOAX
You’re so goddamn bad at your job, holy shit.
Check out the latest activity from this user to see how some people handle anonymous comments. 100% personal attacks.
Said the retard whose only interaction with me is calling me a troll without any evidence.
Usually attacking posts by claiming "disinfo" or directly insulting without any logical proof.
So I don’t fall under 1.
Writing unusual amount of comments under a single post to create the illusion of many opinions that don't agree with it.
So I don’t fall under 2.
Attacking anyone who disagrees with them with petty insults or easily disprovable claims.
So I don’t fall under 3.
Hey, thanks for clarifying, you stupid fucking piece of shit! And if you had a single point of evidence against me, you’d simply post it (or prove flat earth is real) instead of this whining autism!
Yeah it’s obvious to most except the super low IQ, he ruined Conpro and you can see him starting to fuck up a heap of other communities.
Aww, look at the little coward who can’t prove me wrong and is too afraid of me to reply directly.
Trolls gonna troll :(
I suspect they may just be “young”, but certainly could be a bot/shill.
If you disagree with them about anything, you are “a shill” and should “drink bleach” :(
A lot of poor suckers fall for the “everyone who doesn’t agree with me is a rabbi/jidf/shill/etc.” routine. It is a sad tactic to ensure an echo chamber, and designed to prevent learning or discussion of any kind.
Hopefully it’s just a phase.
Yes I’ve noticed this also and it saddens me, the guy runs out of arguments very quickly and it quickly just turns into nonsense and name calling, you can already see him doing it in this thread lol.
He loves doing the classic divide and conquer technique, splitting up what you said into individual sentences and then responding to each. That in tandem with his abrasive mis-quoting is an effective “shilling” tactic to get you to reply. It’s sad that some don’t see through it, but Im not surprised. He’s eloquent when / where he needs to be to cover his ass and manipulate others.
It’s cute to see all the autistic cowards come together to have a circle jerk of lies.
You’re here and replying. You’ve proven it yourself. Scream some more about how everything I say keeps being right. It’s not going to change anything.
That’s literally not what divide and conquer is, you fucking flat earth imbecile. If you don’t want every sentence of your post replied to, stop having every sentence be wrong.
No.
What’s funny is that you still can’t prove a goddamn thing you say, either when I quote it directly or mock you by quoting it directly anyway.
Fun fact: when I provide a citation for what I say and the faggot paid shill who replies doesn’t, I don’t have to say anything else. That’s not how arguments work. I am under no obligation to say anything else.
Explain why you think people who refuse to prove their own claims deserve a platform.
Neat, another coward. Go on, fuckstick. Prove wrong a single thing I’ve said. Explain to me why you don’t want shills removed from the community. No one said a goddamn thing you claimed. You’re just incapable of reading what’s actually written.
Lol, you mean like you? A fellow coward?
I don't hide behind vapid insult and tell everyone I disagree with to kill themselves. My thoughts can stand by their own merits, and I merely avoid trolls like you - not run away.
What would be the point? You'd just ignore it to feel better about yourself. Your behavior is both shameful and sad.
Why would you seriously consider what a "fuckwit" had to say anyway? Especially if it contradicted your infallible ego. Lol.
Of course you have said things that are wrong. To assume otherwise is incredibly proud, stupid, and foolish.
This is a bit complicated. Of course I want shills gone, but there are 2 things I don't think you've fully considered
The OP did. Did you post in the wrong place accidentally?
Always accuse the opponent of what you are doing eh? Classic shill move. I read and earnestly respond. I don't discard and vapidly insult reflexively like you often do.
Great argument.
Great. Why are you talking about things no one here does? Are you physically capable of disproving anything I say?
Not when they have no evidence, they can’t.
Translation: “I am so afraid of you that I refuse to reply to you because I’m terrified that you will prove me wrong, so if I don’t mention you in any way I can get away with lying about you and you won’t notice.”
Thanks for admitting that nothing you have ever said has been correct.
Project somewhere sense; it’s not working on me.
Name one, you subhuman coward.
Neat. So you have no examples?
Holy shit, I agree completely. You’re absolutely right on both counts, which is why I have trouble with your complaints regarding point two. Demanding proof/evidence is our website’s immune system. How we deal with genuine shills is by demanding proof/evidence of the claims they make. When they refuse to provide proof/evidence, that’s it. We’ve caught them. After that, there’s no discussion except that of our own, because the proof-refuser has nothing more of any value to add to us. We can’t just let it slide. We can entertain the ideas presented by the shill, perhaps simply because we’d be interested in seeing where those ideas take us (to learn what they’re going to attack us with next), but we cannot simply allow ourselves to accept claims or statements when the faggot who posted them has no evidence for them. Ever. Zero tolerance. Otherwise we no longer stand for truth and can no longer parse genuine conspiracies from hoaxes (malicious or benevolent).
Okay, yes, my mistake in the sentence. I should have said, “No one actually said a thing you claimed.” The ambiguity was in “claim of statement” vs. “actual statement.” My fault.
Lol.
What are you talking about?
Ideas can stand on their own without evidence. And ideas that are supported by evidence are often wrong/worthless. Evidence is easy.
You misunderstand. It is you who should have the examples, not me. It is purely your foolish vanity that prevents it. Deludedly believing you are always right is stupid and vain/proud.
Cool it there freud. I thought you were against the “communists” and their nonsense...
Then act like it.
I disagree.
Not without vapid insult and calls to suicide you can’t :(
Excellent. Though your major difficulty is in disagreeing civilly, i’ll consider this a step in the right direction.
I understand why you think this, but it’s wrong. We can request such proof/evidence, and arbitrate that any refusal to provide such is a reason to discard/ignore/prevent consideration, but making petulant demands is for children.
All claims, including facts which are merely one type of claim, regardless of source are our responsibility to verify thoroughly before accepting. It is the burden of all students. We can ask for help in this, but we can’t demand nor expect it. Furthermore, it is a process and skillset that we refine by doing ourselves.
In a formal debate (a silly game; base pageantry) the burden of proof falls on the claimant. In real life, it falls on us.
Citation please. Do you see my point? Demanding evidence and citation is a common troll/shill technique - not one that is employed by earnest students.
Again, i understand the reasoning and logic behind such criteria. If that is your arbitrary line, so be it. The process of validation is subjective, and we all must make such determinations for ourselves. However, there are many reasons a person may reasonably not be forthcoming with evidence, for one - petulant demand. Another is that commonly it is a flimsy rhetorical technique trolls use to waste time. Bothering to actually explain further to a disingenuous party is an even bigger waste of time.
In general, i agree. Furthermore we cannot allow ourselves to accept claims/statements/facts merely because they have evidence that supports them. More rigorous validation is required, and - as i said - evidence is easy.
I avoid the word truth most of the time. Though the pursuit of truth is the ideal, i am generally more than happy to accept/obtain validated fact in lieu of it.
As for parsing genuine conspiracies from hoaxes - that is a much larger discussion.
I still have no idea what you are talking about. The OP made this post to say that you were a shill, and i responded to it. If i said something that the OP didn’t or others in the thread didn’t that is a good thing because i am adding to the conversation... right? Perhaps you could quote a specific statement that you take issue with, and we could discuss that specifically?
Amazing.
Literally no. Congratulations on admitting you’re insane.
Wrong.
No.
No.
Thank you for admitting that everything you said is a lie. Presented without evidence = dismissed without evidence. They’re your claims. You have to prove them or they’re going to be ignored.
Said the psychopath who refuses to prove his own claims.
Good thing no one here is doing that, right? Fuck off, illiterate.
“You’re a communist because you called out my behavior in which communists engage!”
Goddamn, you’re shit at your job.
I do. Get the fuck over it, you retarded sack of communist shit. You still cannot reply to the topic of discussion and abjectly refuse to do so. You’re a psychopathic paid shill and a moral relativist. You have nothing but your emotions. Burn in hell.
You don’t get to disagree. It’s not a matter of agreement. You have no voice in the matter.
Can. Already explained. You didn’t read. Get fucked.
Right, so… demand. Words have definitions.
Cool, we’re demanding you post evidence or that you kill yourself. Get over it, you fucking child. You don’t get to endlessly post lies and claim that your fee fees told you it’s okay because it’s true because you said so.
No shit.
Then don’t “demand” or “expect” your lies to
And I’m somehow not doing it myself by continuing to bog you, a communist paid shill moral relativist, down in self-incrimination?
Thanks for admitting you have no proof of your claims and they are dismissed.
Thanks for admitting that you have no proof and that your claims are dismissed.
It’s really.
Really.
Simple to comprehend.
You say thing, you prove thing. If you no can prove, you no say. If other say thing with no proof, demand other proof. If no proof come, dismiss other thing.
If these standards are too stringent for you, find somewhere else to spam your lies. Like reddit. They love what you say there.
Not really. I’m not a mind reader. If you can’t explain what the heck it is you’re saying, i can’t possibly be expected to understand you.
Perhaps, but i think i’ve just given it more thought than you. Ideas most often do not spring from evidence, nor is evidence required to support them. Ideas can be and often are compelling in and of themselves.
Lol. This is not a debate. Currently it barely qualifies as a conversation due to your pigheaded adversarial demeanor. As i said, your belief/assumption that everything you have said is correct is stupid, vain, and proud. Pride is a fools fortress and shame’s cloak. Cast it aside if you can.
Then how is it i can and do?
followed by
This is another demonstration of your disagreeing civilly?
Agreed.
Lol. You “get” to disagree with anything. Most (virtually all) people who claim to have inerrant truth are both wrong and religious zealots. You can and should disagree with “truth” when that “truth” is false.
Why can’t a person just be f*ing wrong anymore? Why is everyone automatically a liar? And how is being uncivil to those who could help you in your struggle, or are on your side in that struggle, going to help? If you commit yourself to acting in such a way, you are preventing collaboration. Divide and conquer is a simple game and a fundamental tactic of our common enemy. Perhaps you should stop helping them?
Yes, they do. You can of course demand anything you wish, but you are not entitled to receive anything. You will catch more flies with honey, and demanding/screaming at them will always tend to drive them away.
In some ways i agree with you. However, just like the shills - many of those people in those groups are not willing participants. They need help, not banishment. The disingenuous that push such philosophies/ideologies as attack are, as you say - not worth discussing with.
Correct. (repeatedly) Making petulant demands is not research/validation and will not help you foster, build, or refine those skills.
You may, and perhaps should, ask for help in validation - but demanding it is foolish and a common troll/shill tactic.
You can dismiss anything you want. But don’t be surprised when your close minded and needlessly adversarial approach prevents you from learning new things and effectively communicating.
You haven’t thought this through. Proof is not something you can give another (outside of mathematics). It is too subjective. You must do it for yourself, though you can request help!
Lol. No speculation, no thought - “just the facts mam”?
Citation please. Provide proof.
Am i getting through to you at all? You seem caught in a loop, and are advocating for a common troll/shill tactic.
They are self defeating and closed minded to me, but you are welcome to them! In general the “put up or shut up” approach is a sound one, but you are both taking it too far and being uncivil as well as adversarial which only prevents communication and collaboration.
That you can’t maintain conversational context for even a single post. Even AI Dungeon does better than that.
Nah.
No one said otherwise.
If you expect anyone to take you seriously or believe you, they do.
Nope. The compelling part is when they’re truthful. Truth is innate to being.
Thanks for admitting your ideas are false.
Yes, that’d be because I’m only mocking you and not pretending otherwise. Your physical inability to stay on topic or prove your claims has LONG been proven. This is just to keep you away from sane people.
Truth is like that, yeah. It doesn’t waver in the face of autistic retards who think that subjectivism exists. I try to reflect truth.
Good thing I have no such belief or assumption, isn’t it? Burn in hell, you fucking retard. If anything I said was wrong, you would have proven it long ago. But you believe proof doesn’t exist conceptually. You can’t do it.
Cool, no pride here. Project somewhere else, fuckstick.
You don’t. Enjoy your mockery.
No, you’re not human, so you deserve no civility. How many times does this need said?
Enjoy your mockery.
Then it’s not truth. Words have definitions. I refuse to play your saussurean games, relativist.
You are wrong. I am explaining why you are wrong. You are reacting as a shill does in the face of this.
Why do you beat your wife? (Honestly, do you trust anything some retard on the Internet says, sight unseen?)
You’ve already admitted you don’t believe truth exists. You’re on the other side of the struggle.
Yep, I don’t give a shit about collaborating with people who want me exterminated. “You have to let gays and nonwhites and atheists into your movement because they’re totally on your side!” Fuck your civnat bullshit.
My common enemy is subjectivity. Everything stems from subjectivism.
Perhaps you should stop being a subjectivist.
You can demand your ideas be entertained without proof, but you are not entitled to anything but mockery.
No, actually, and you’ll catch even more with a pile of shit, but that doesn’t matter to me because I deal in truth.
Good.
And they cannot–and will not–get it until “a military boot crashes into his fat bottom.” Words can’t fix them. They are beyond words.
lol, truth is not petulance.
Cool. Hasn’t so far. Has prevented me from falling for lies, though.
Have. Indeed, had to dumb it down to elementary level comprehension.
lol, you’re mentally ill.
“Truth is subjective,” yes, you’re mentally ill. Just like I said before. You’re beyond salvation.
NOT WHEN THE TOPIC IS NOT A MATTER OF OPINION, YOU FUCKING RELATIVIST.
Right. Like that. It’s not that hard to demand it of others.
No, I don’t engage with proven psychopaths except to mock them and waste their time. You’re a relativist. You’re beyond saving.
Congrats, you noticed that I’m purposely dragging you into a loop to further mock your inability to comprehend objectivity as a concept. We’ll go around again if you like.
Yeah, trolls and shills always want to know the truth. They always demand evidence for claims. That’s definitely how they behave.
Enjoy your genocide, then. I’m not compromising with objective, metaphysical evil.
Truth is the wall. There is nothing beyond.
My people are being exterminated from the face of the Earth. I don’t give a single flying fuck about hurting the feelings of a paid shill on a meaningless Internet website. I want you to kill yourself, in real life, for no other reason than thinking that I should give a shit what some genocidal communist whore thinks about me. Censor yourself, then, you fucking milquetoast.
Good. It’s called an immune response. I don’t want my white blood cells to welcome the cancer in and show it where all the good organs are.
I’m not collaborating with relativists. Ever.
Meh, While the persona behind the account may be abrasive I have no issue with it.
Laughable when posting the pro economic shit, but plenty of the comments written I end up voting in agreement.
There are plenty worse, I am against people spreading cancellation, misinformation, bullshit and fear mongering, I do not think this one falls into that category.
What economic shit?
just when you declare to be against communism, leaving the only choice a fiat based exchange system, all run by the criminal khazarian, so its all fuckered.
nothing specific comes to mind, carry on.
Not necessarily
At least Bitcoin is capped at maximum quantity. Whereas USD is printed infinitely.
Sounds like a false dichotomy, and also like absolutely nothing that I have suggested.
Fuck off, tranny worshipper.
Drink bleach. You’ve already been proven wrong, paid shill.
Laws of physics laugh at you.
I was a ground zero individual in the COVID hoax research.
Dude, no one cares what an admitted paid shill thinks.
Good, off yourself.
Yep I agree and wish mods would BAN any self harm threats / kill yourself type comments.
They do. Stop posting things that only government paid shills have ever said and expecting to be treated like a human being.
Dude. Shut the fuck up.
Eat shit and die, coward. No one gives a fuck what you have to say.
Exactly you fucking goy shill.
Yep, you look like an AI.
You’re so goddamn bad at your job, holy shit.
Said the retard whose only interaction with me is calling me a troll without any evidence.
So I don’t fall under 1.
So I don’t fall under 2.
So I don’t fall under 3.
Hey, thanks for clarifying, you stupid fucking piece of shit! And if you had a single point of evidence against me, you’d simply post it (or prove flat earth is real) instead of this whining autism!
Lol. Feels like voat.