Why are you talking about things no one here does?
What are you talking about?
Not when they have no evidence, they can’t.
Ideas can stand on their own without evidence. And ideas that are supported by evidence are often wrong/worthless. Evidence is easy.
So you have no examples?
You misunderstand. It is you who should have the examples, not me. It is purely your foolish vanity that prevents it. Deludedly believing you are always right is stupid and vain/proud.
Project somewhere
Cool it there freud. I thought you were against the “communists” and their nonsense...
I have no ego.
Then act like it.
I’m worthless. I don’t matter
I disagree.
I am capable of entertaining an idea that I do not personally like
Not without vapid insult and calls to suicide you can’t :(
Holy shit, I agree completely
Excellent. Though your major difficulty is in disagreeing civilly, i’ll consider this a step in the right direction.
Demanding proof/evidence is our website’s immune system
I understand why you think this, but it’s wrong. We can request such proof/evidence, and arbitrate that any refusal to provide such is a reason to discard/ignore/prevent consideration, but making petulant demands is for children.
All claims, including facts which are merely one type of claim, regardless of source are our responsibility to verify thoroughly before accepting. It is the burden of all students. We can ask for help in this, but we can’t demand nor expect it. Furthermore, it is a process and skillset that we refine by doing ourselves.
In a formal debate (a silly game; base pageantry) the burden of proof falls on the claimant. In real life, it falls on us.
How we deal with genuine shills is by demanding proof/evidence of the claims they make
Citation please. Do you see my point? Demanding evidence and citation is a common troll/shill technique - not one that is employed by earnest students.
We can’t just let it slide
Again, i understand the reasoning and logic behind such criteria. If that is your arbitrary line, so be it. The process of validation is subjective, and we all must make such determinations for ourselves. However, there are many reasons a person may reasonably not be forthcoming with evidence, for one - petulant demand. Another is that commonly it is a flimsy rhetorical technique trolls use to waste time. Bothering to actually explain further to a disingenuous party is an even bigger waste of time.
but we cannot simply allow ourselves to accept claims or statements when the faggot who posted them has no evidence for them
In general, i agree. Furthermore we cannot allow ourselves to accept claims/statements/facts merely because they have evidence that supports them. More rigorous validation is required, and - as i said - evidence is easy.
Otherwise we no longer stand for truth and can no longer parse genuine conspiracies from hoaxes (malicious or benevolent).
I avoid the word truth most of the time. Though the pursuit of truth is the ideal, i am generally more than happy to accept/obtain validated fact in lieu of it.
As for parsing genuine conspiracies from hoaxes - that is a much larger discussion.
“No one actually said a thing you claimed.”
I still have no idea what you are talking about. The OP made this post to say that you were a shill, and i responded to it. If i said something that the OP didn’t or others in the thread didn’t that is a good thing because i am adding to the conversation... right? Perhaps you could quote a specific statement that you take issue with, and we could discuss that specifically?
Literally no. Congratulations on admitting you’re insane.
And ideas that are supported by evidence are often wrong/worthless.
Wrong.
Evidence is easy.
No.
You misunderstand.
No.
It is you who should have the examples, not me.
Thank you for admitting that everything you said is a lie. Presented without evidence = dismissed without evidence. They’re your claims. You have to prove them or they’re going to be ignored.
It is purely your foolish vanity that prevents it.
Said the psychopath who refuses to prove his own claims.
Deludedly believing you are always right is stupid and vain/proud.
Good thing no one here is doing that, right? Fuck off, illiterate.
Cool it there freud. I thought you were against the “communists” and their nonsense...
“You’re a communist because you called outmybehavior in which communists engage!”
Goddamn, you’re shit at your job.
Then act like it.
I do. Get the fuck over it, you retarded sack of communist shit. You still cannot reply to the topic of discussion and abjectly refuse to do so. You’re a psychopathic paid shill and a moral relativist. You have nothing but your emotions. Burn in hell.
I disagree.
You don’t get to disagree. It’s not a matter of agreement. You have no voice in the matter.
Not without vapid insult and calls to suicide you can’t :(
Can. Already explained. You didn’t read. Get fucked.
your major difficulty is in disagreeing civilly
Truth isn’t a matter of agreement.
You don’t get to disagree with truth.
My people are being exterminated from the face of the Earth, so you deserve no civility when you post lies.
I understand why you think this, but it’s wrong. We can request such proof/evidence, and arbitrate that any refusal to provide such is a reason to discard/ignore/prevent consideration
Right, so… demand. Words have definitions.
but making petulant demands is for children.
Cool, we’re demanding you post evidence or that you kill yourself. Get over it, you fucking child. You don’t get to endlessly post lies and claim that your fee fees told you it’s okay because it’s true because you said so.
All claims, including facts which are merely one type of claim, regardless of source are our responsibility to verify thoroughly before accepting.
No shit.
We can ask for help in this, but we can’t demand nor expect it.
Then don’t “demand” or “expect” your lies to
go unquestioned
remain up
result in you NOT being told to commit suicide for being a communist, a paid shill, and a moral relativist, since there is no possibility of discussion with a member of these groups, a priori
Furthermore, it is a process and skillset that we refine by doing ourselves.
And I’m somehow not doing it myself by continuing to bog you, a communist paid shill moral relativist, down in self-incrimination?
In a formal debate the burden of proof falls on the claimant
Thanks for admitting you have no proof of your claims and they are dismissed.
In real life, it falls on us.
Thanks for admitting that you have no proof and that your claims are dismissed.
It’s really.
Really.
Simple to comprehend.
You say thing, you prove thing. If you no can prove, you no say. If other say thing with no proof, demand other proof. If no proof come, dismiss other thing.
If these standards are too stringent for you, find somewhere else to spam your lies. Like reddit. They love what you say there.
Not really. I’m not a mind reader. If you can’t explain what the heck it is you’re saying, i can’t possibly be expected to understand you.
Congratulations on admitting you’re insane
Perhaps, but i think i’ve just given it more thought than you. Ideas most often do not spring from evidence, nor is evidence required to support them. Ideas can be and often are compelling in and of themselves.
You have to prove them or they’re going to be ignored
Lol. This is not a debate. Currently it barely qualifies as a conversation due to your pigheaded adversarial demeanor. As i said, your belief/assumption that everything you have said is correct is stupid, vain, and proud. Pride is a fools fortress and shame’s cloak. Cast it aside if you can.
You don’t get to disagree
Then how is it i can and do?
Can
followed by
Get fucked
This is another demonstration of your disagreeing civilly?
Truth isn’t a matter of agreement.
Agreed.
You don’t get to disagree with truth.
Lol. You “get” to disagree with anything. Most (virtually all) people who claim to have inerrant truth are both wrong and religious zealots. You can and should disagree with “truth” when that “truth” is false.
My people are being exterminated from the face of the Earth, so you deserve no civility when you post lies.
Why can’t a person just be f*ing wrong anymore? Why is everyone automatically a liar? And how is being uncivil to those who could help you in your struggle, or are on your side in that struggle, going to help? If you commit yourself to acting in such a way, you are preventing collaboration. Divide and conquer is a simple game and a fundamental tactic of our common enemy. Perhaps you should stop helping them?
Words have definitions
Yes, they do. You can of course demand anything you wish, but you are not entitled to receive anything. You will catch more flies with honey, and demanding/screaming at them will always tend to drive them away.
since there is no possibility of discussion with a member of these groups
In some ways i agree with you. However, just like the shills - many of those people in those groups are not willing participants. They need help, not banishment. The disingenuous that push such philosophies/ideologies as attack are, as you say - not worth discussing with.
And I’m somehow not doing it myself by continuing to bog you
Correct. (repeatedly) Making petulant demands is not research/validation and will not help you foster, build, or refine those skills.
You may, and perhaps should, ask for help in validation - but demanding it is foolish and a common troll/shill tactic.
they are dismissed
You can dismiss anything you want. But don’t be surprised when your close minded and needlessly adversarial approach prevents you from learning new things and effectively communicating.
You say thing, you prove thing
You haven’t thought this through. Proof is not something you can give another (outside of mathematics). It is too subjective. You must do it for yourself, though you can request help!
If you no can prove, you no say
Lol. No speculation, no thought - “just the facts mam”?
If no proof come, dismiss other thing
Citation please. Provide proof.
Am i getting through to you at all? You seem caught in a loop, and are advocating for a common troll/shill tactic.
If these standards are too stringent for you
They are self defeating and closed minded to me, but you are welcome to them! In general the “put up or shut up” approach is a sound one, but you are both taking it too far and being uncivil as well as adversarial which only prevents communication and collaboration.
That you can’t maintain conversational context for even a single post. Even AI Dungeon does better than that.
Perhaps, but i think i’ve just given it more thought than you.
Nah.
Ideas most often do not spring from evidence
No one said otherwise.
nor is evidence required to support them
If you expect anyone to take you seriously or believe you, they do.
Ideas can be and often are compelling in and of themselves.
Nope. The compelling part is when they’re truthful. Truth is innate to being.
Lol. This is not a debate.
Thanks for admitting your ideas are false.
Currently it barely qualifies as a conversation
Yes, that’d be because I’m only mocking you and not pretending otherwise. Your physical inability to stay on topic or prove your claims has LONG been proven. This is just to keep you away from sane people.
your pigheaded adversarial demeanor
Truth is like that, yeah. It doesn’t waver in the face of autistic retards who think that subjectivism exists. I try to reflect truth.
As i said, your belief/assumption that everything you have said is correct is stupid
Good thing I have no such belief or assumption, isn’t it? Burn in hell, you fucking retard. If anything I said was wrong, you would have proven it long ago. But you believe proof doesn’t exist conceptually. You can’t do it.
Pride is a fools fortress and shame’s cloak. Cast it aside if you can.
Cool, no pride here. Project somewhere else, fuckstick.
Then how is it i can and do?
You don’t. Enjoy your mockery.
This is another demonstration of your disagreeing civilly?
No, you’re not human, so you deserve no civility. How many times does this need said?
Lol. You “get” to disagree with anything.
Enjoy your mockery.
You can and should disagree with “truth” when that “truth” is false.
Then it’s not truth. Words have definitions. I refuse to play your saussurean games, relativist.
Why can’t a person just be f*ing wrong anymore?
You are wrong. I am explaining why you are wrong. You are reacting as a shill does in the face of this.
Why is everyone automatically a liar?
Why do you beat your wife? (Honestly, do you trust anything some retard on the Internet says, sight unseen?)
And how is being uncivil to those who could help you in your struggle
You’ve already admitted you don’t believe truth exists. You’re on the other side of the struggle.
If you commit yourself to acting in such a way, you are preventing collaboration.
Yep, I don’t give a shit about collaborating with people who want me exterminated. “You have to let gays and nonwhites and atheists into your movement because they’re totally on your side!” Fuck your civnat bullshit.
Divide and conquer is a simple game and a fundamental tactic of our common enemy.
My common enemy is subjectivity. Everything stems from subjectivism.
Perhaps you should stop helping them?
Perhaps you should stop being a subjectivist.
You can of course demand anything you wish, but you are not entitled to receive anything.
You can demand your ideas be entertained without proof, but you are not entitled to anything but mockery.
You will catch more flies with honey
No, actually, and you’ll catch even more with a pile of shit, but that doesn’t matter to me because I deal in truth.
and demanding/screaming at them will always tend to drive them away.
Good.
many of those people in those groups are not willing participants. They need help
You can dismiss anything you want. But don’t be surprised when your close minded and needlessly adversarial approach prevents you from learning new things and effectively communicating.
Cool. Hasn’t so far. Has prevented me from falling for lies, though.
You haven’t thought this through
Have. Indeed, had to dumb it down to elementary level comprehension.
Proof is not something you can give another (outside of mathematics).
lol, you’re mentally ill.
It is too subjective.
“Truth is subjective,” yes, you’re mentally ill. Just like I said before. You’re beyond salvation.
No speculation, no thought
NOT WHEN THE TOPIC IS NOT A MATTER OF OPINION, YOU FUCKING RELATIVIST.
Citation please. Provide proof.
Right. Like that. It’s not that hard to demand it of others.
Am i getting through to you at all?
No, I don’t engage with proven psychopaths except to mock them and waste their time. You’re a relativist. You’re beyond saving.
You seem caught in a loop
Congrats, you noticed that I’m purposely dragging you into a loop to further mock your inability to comprehend objectivity as a concept. We’ll go around again if you like.
and are advocating for a common troll/shill tactic.
Yeah, trolls and shills always want to know the truth. They always demand evidence for claims. That’s definitely how they behave.
My people are being exterminated from the face of the Earth. I don’t give a single flying fuck about hurting the feelings of a paid shill on a meaningless Internet website. I want you to kill yourself, in real life, for no other reason than thinking that I should give a shit what some genocidal communist whore thinks about me. Censor yourself, then, you fucking milquetoast.
as well as adversarial
Good. It’s called an immune response. I don’t want my white blood cells to welcome the cancer in and show it where all the good organs are.
which only prevents communication and collaboration.
That you can’t maintain conversational context for even a single post
Can you? If so, explain what you meant specifically, if anything, by “No one said a goddamn thing you claimed.” Otherwise, don’t waste your breath.
If you expect anyone to take you seriously or believe you, they do.
I don’t expect nor demand anything, that’s your script. I certainly don’t want them to believe anything. Belief is the enemy of knowledge, and objective study of any kind. I can, of course, provide evidence - but that isn’t as meaningful as you misunderstand it to be. All mythology has evidence.
The compelling part is when they’re truthful
Lol. You can’t be this naive. Why are so many fooled by lies/falsity? Why are so many so wrong so often/consistently (including yourself)? Was it because they were too compelled by truth to notice? Don’t be silly. The truth hurts; it is often not compelling at all and a “bitter pill” besides.
This is just to keep you away from sane people.
No one is reading this but us - this thread has been deleted to boot. Technically only i am reading this; you are ignoring and mocking it to protect your foolish pride :(
The only reason to continue is because you wish to communicate/discuss, or because you are a disingenuous troll who enjoys (and/or is paid for) wasting time.
I hope it is the former, for both our sakes.
I try to reflect truth.
And that is a good and lofty goal. It is stupid to delude yourself into believing you have succeeded, or will always succeed.
You are wrong. I am explaining why you are wrong
No, you claimed i was a liar instead of doing that. Which is also a common shill/troll tactic. Coincidence, i’m sure...
You’ve already admitted you don’t believe truth exists
When? Please cite/quote my statement. You have clearly misunderstood me - which is unsurprising because by your own admission - you are only ignoring and mocking anyway.
Yep, I don’t give a shit about collaborating with people who want me exterminated
How about collaborating with people who don’t want you to be exterminated and would help to fight against it? Your attitude and approach prevent all collaboration and communication with others, especially those that disagree with you in any way. Your echo chamber, of your own making, does you harm.
truth is not petulance
No one said it was. I said demanding things was petulant. If you have truth, it will stand and defend itself by its own merit and virtue. Again your ad hominem, vitriol, and calls to suicide are unnecessary, across purposes, and only harming you. Such tactics are only resorted to when you don’t have truth...
It’s not that hard to demand it of others
No one said it was. I said it was childish and self defeating. Instead, request. As for the specific example i mock demanded citation and proof for - you could never provide it (especially not to a disingenuous party using such demands as a rhetorical device) and such demands only serve to disable communication/collaboration. That is their purpose.
You’re beyond saving.
You may well be as well, but a little earnest discussion shouldn’t hurt to try and remedy that. Don’t avoid it out of cowardice, pride, and/or vanity.
“Truth is subjective,”
No one said that except you, just now. I said proof was subjective.
Yeah, trolls and shills always want to know the truth
There is nothing wrong with wanting to know the truth. Your problem is declaring you already have it, sticking your fingers in your ears, and screaming like a child at everyone who has a differing view.
What makes you a troll is trolling. You can stop anytime you wish - i hope.
They always demand evidence for claims. That’s definitely how they behave.
Yes, that’s right. Demanding citation/evidence as a flimsy pretext to derail, disable, and discredit is a common shill/troll tactic. Do you seriously not recognize that?
I’m not compromising with objective, metaphysical evil.
No one is saying you should. This is a discussion about collaboration, communication, and civility/behavior.
Truth is the wall
We are not discussing truth. You keep conflating / shifting to it, but we are really discussing tactic, approach/behavior, and effective communication.
It is true that you shouldn’t accept claims you, yourself, have not thoroughly validated first. It is not true that demanding such validation is the best way to go about that.
My people are being exterminated from the face of the Earth
All the more reason to foster collaboration and rally allies. Your current approach has the opposite effect. If that is not your intention, you should stop working to help your enemy and do their work (divide) for them.
It’s called an immune response
It’s called mindless belligerence, and it only hinders communication and collaboration.
I’m not collaborating with relativists
To continue your metaphor, you are an auto-immune disease. You are attacking all indiscriminately, and are not communicating effectively enough to even determine who the relativists might be before blindly attacking. For instance, i am not a relativist - but you are too busy mocking, ignoring, attacking, and urging suicide to notice.
Lol.
What are you talking about?
Ideas can stand on their own without evidence. And ideas that are supported by evidence are often wrong/worthless. Evidence is easy.
You misunderstand. It is you who should have the examples, not me. It is purely your foolish vanity that prevents it. Deludedly believing you are always right is stupid and vain/proud.
Cool it there freud. I thought you were against the “communists” and their nonsense...
Then act like it.
I disagree.
Not without vapid insult and calls to suicide you can’t :(
Excellent. Though your major difficulty is in disagreeing civilly, i’ll consider this a step in the right direction.
I understand why you think this, but it’s wrong. We can request such proof/evidence, and arbitrate that any refusal to provide such is a reason to discard/ignore/prevent consideration, but making petulant demands is for children.
All claims, including facts which are merely one type of claim, regardless of source are our responsibility to verify thoroughly before accepting. It is the burden of all students. We can ask for help in this, but we can’t demand nor expect it. Furthermore, it is a process and skillset that we refine by doing ourselves.
In a formal debate (a silly game; base pageantry) the burden of proof falls on the claimant. In real life, it falls on us.
Citation please. Do you see my point? Demanding evidence and citation is a common troll/shill technique - not one that is employed by earnest students.
Again, i understand the reasoning and logic behind such criteria. If that is your arbitrary line, so be it. The process of validation is subjective, and we all must make such determinations for ourselves. However, there are many reasons a person may reasonably not be forthcoming with evidence, for one - petulant demand. Another is that commonly it is a flimsy rhetorical technique trolls use to waste time. Bothering to actually explain further to a disingenuous party is an even bigger waste of time.
In general, i agree. Furthermore we cannot allow ourselves to accept claims/statements/facts merely because they have evidence that supports them. More rigorous validation is required, and - as i said - evidence is easy.
I avoid the word truth most of the time. Though the pursuit of truth is the ideal, i am generally more than happy to accept/obtain validated fact in lieu of it.
As for parsing genuine conspiracies from hoaxes - that is a much larger discussion.
I still have no idea what you are talking about. The OP made this post to say that you were a shill, and i responded to it. If i said something that the OP didn’t or others in the thread didn’t that is a good thing because i am adding to the conversation... right? Perhaps you could quote a specific statement that you take issue with, and we could discuss that specifically?
Amazing.
Literally no. Congratulations on admitting you’re insane.
Wrong.
No.
No.
Thank you for admitting that everything you said is a lie. Presented without evidence = dismissed without evidence. They’re your claims. You have to prove them or they’re going to be ignored.
Said the psychopath who refuses to prove his own claims.
Good thing no one here is doing that, right? Fuck off, illiterate.
“You’re a communist because you called out my behavior in which communists engage!”
Goddamn, you’re shit at your job.
I do. Get the fuck over it, you retarded sack of communist shit. You still cannot reply to the topic of discussion and abjectly refuse to do so. You’re a psychopathic paid shill and a moral relativist. You have nothing but your emotions. Burn in hell.
You don’t get to disagree. It’s not a matter of agreement. You have no voice in the matter.
Can. Already explained. You didn’t read. Get fucked.
Right, so… demand. Words have definitions.
Cool, we’re demanding you post evidence or that you kill yourself. Get over it, you fucking child. You don’t get to endlessly post lies and claim that your fee fees told you it’s okay because it’s true because you said so.
No shit.
Then don’t “demand” or “expect” your lies to
And I’m somehow not doing it myself by continuing to bog you, a communist paid shill moral relativist, down in self-incrimination?
Thanks for admitting you have no proof of your claims and they are dismissed.
Thanks for admitting that you have no proof and that your claims are dismissed.
It’s really.
Really.
Simple to comprehend.
You say thing, you prove thing. If you no can prove, you no say. If other say thing with no proof, demand other proof. If no proof come, dismiss other thing.
If these standards are too stringent for you, find somewhere else to spam your lies. Like reddit. They love what you say there.
Not really. I’m not a mind reader. If you can’t explain what the heck it is you’re saying, i can’t possibly be expected to understand you.
Perhaps, but i think i’ve just given it more thought than you. Ideas most often do not spring from evidence, nor is evidence required to support them. Ideas can be and often are compelling in and of themselves.
Lol. This is not a debate. Currently it barely qualifies as a conversation due to your pigheaded adversarial demeanor. As i said, your belief/assumption that everything you have said is correct is stupid, vain, and proud. Pride is a fools fortress and shame’s cloak. Cast it aside if you can.
Then how is it i can and do?
followed by
This is another demonstration of your disagreeing civilly?
Agreed.
Lol. You “get” to disagree with anything. Most (virtually all) people who claim to have inerrant truth are both wrong and religious zealots. You can and should disagree with “truth” when that “truth” is false.
Why can’t a person just be f*ing wrong anymore? Why is everyone automatically a liar? And how is being uncivil to those who could help you in your struggle, or are on your side in that struggle, going to help? If you commit yourself to acting in such a way, you are preventing collaboration. Divide and conquer is a simple game and a fundamental tactic of our common enemy. Perhaps you should stop helping them?
Yes, they do. You can of course demand anything you wish, but you are not entitled to receive anything. You will catch more flies with honey, and demanding/screaming at them will always tend to drive them away.
In some ways i agree with you. However, just like the shills - many of those people in those groups are not willing participants. They need help, not banishment. The disingenuous that push such philosophies/ideologies as attack are, as you say - not worth discussing with.
Correct. (repeatedly) Making petulant demands is not research/validation and will not help you foster, build, or refine those skills.
You may, and perhaps should, ask for help in validation - but demanding it is foolish and a common troll/shill tactic.
You can dismiss anything you want. But don’t be surprised when your close minded and needlessly adversarial approach prevents you from learning new things and effectively communicating.
You haven’t thought this through. Proof is not something you can give another (outside of mathematics). It is too subjective. You must do it for yourself, though you can request help!
Lol. No speculation, no thought - “just the facts mam”?
Citation please. Provide proof.
Am i getting through to you at all? You seem caught in a loop, and are advocating for a common troll/shill tactic.
They are self defeating and closed minded to me, but you are welcome to them! In general the “put up or shut up” approach is a sound one, but you are both taking it too far and being uncivil as well as adversarial which only prevents communication and collaboration.
That you can’t maintain conversational context for even a single post. Even AI Dungeon does better than that.
Nah.
No one said otherwise.
If you expect anyone to take you seriously or believe you, they do.
Nope. The compelling part is when they’re truthful. Truth is innate to being.
Thanks for admitting your ideas are false.
Yes, that’d be because I’m only mocking you and not pretending otherwise. Your physical inability to stay on topic or prove your claims has LONG been proven. This is just to keep you away from sane people.
Truth is like that, yeah. It doesn’t waver in the face of autistic retards who think that subjectivism exists. I try to reflect truth.
Good thing I have no such belief or assumption, isn’t it? Burn in hell, you fucking retard. If anything I said was wrong, you would have proven it long ago. But you believe proof doesn’t exist conceptually. You can’t do it.
Cool, no pride here. Project somewhere else, fuckstick.
You don’t. Enjoy your mockery.
No, you’re not human, so you deserve no civility. How many times does this need said?
Enjoy your mockery.
Then it’s not truth. Words have definitions. I refuse to play your saussurean games, relativist.
You are wrong. I am explaining why you are wrong. You are reacting as a shill does in the face of this.
Why do you beat your wife? (Honestly, do you trust anything some retard on the Internet says, sight unseen?)
You’ve already admitted you don’t believe truth exists. You’re on the other side of the struggle.
Yep, I don’t give a shit about collaborating with people who want me exterminated. “You have to let gays and nonwhites and atheists into your movement because they’re totally on your side!” Fuck your civnat bullshit.
My common enemy is subjectivity. Everything stems from subjectivism.
Perhaps you should stop being a subjectivist.
You can demand your ideas be entertained without proof, but you are not entitled to anything but mockery.
No, actually, and you’ll catch even more with a pile of shit, but that doesn’t matter to me because I deal in truth.
Good.
And they cannot–and will not–get it until “a military boot crashes into his fat bottom.” Words can’t fix them. They are beyond words.
lol, truth is not petulance.
Cool. Hasn’t so far. Has prevented me from falling for lies, though.
Have. Indeed, had to dumb it down to elementary level comprehension.
lol, you’re mentally ill.
“Truth is subjective,” yes, you’re mentally ill. Just like I said before. You’re beyond salvation.
NOT WHEN THE TOPIC IS NOT A MATTER OF OPINION, YOU FUCKING RELATIVIST.
Right. Like that. It’s not that hard to demand it of others.
No, I don’t engage with proven psychopaths except to mock them and waste their time. You’re a relativist. You’re beyond saving.
Congrats, you noticed that I’m purposely dragging you into a loop to further mock your inability to comprehend objectivity as a concept. We’ll go around again if you like.
Yeah, trolls and shills always want to know the truth. They always demand evidence for claims. That’s definitely how they behave.
Enjoy your genocide, then. I’m not compromising with objective, metaphysical evil.
Truth is the wall. There is nothing beyond.
My people are being exterminated from the face of the Earth. I don’t give a single flying fuck about hurting the feelings of a paid shill on a meaningless Internet website. I want you to kill yourself, in real life, for no other reason than thinking that I should give a shit what some genocidal communist whore thinks about me. Censor yourself, then, you fucking milquetoast.
Good. It’s called an immune response. I don’t want my white blood cells to welcome the cancer in and show it where all the good organs are.
I’m not collaborating with relativists. Ever.
Can you? If so, explain what you meant specifically, if anything, by “No one said a goddamn thing you claimed.” Otherwise, don’t waste your breath.
I don’t expect nor demand anything, that’s your script. I certainly don’t want them to believe anything. Belief is the enemy of knowledge, and objective study of any kind. I can, of course, provide evidence - but that isn’t as meaningful as you misunderstand it to be. All mythology has evidence.
Lol. You can’t be this naive. Why are so many fooled by lies/falsity? Why are so many so wrong so often/consistently (including yourself)? Was it because they were too compelled by truth to notice? Don’t be silly. The truth hurts; it is often not compelling at all and a “bitter pill” besides.
No one is reading this but us - this thread has been deleted to boot. Technically only i am reading this; you are ignoring and mocking it to protect your foolish pride :(
The only reason to continue is because you wish to communicate/discuss, or because you are a disingenuous troll who enjoys (and/or is paid for) wasting time.
I hope it is the former, for both our sakes.
And that is a good and lofty goal. It is stupid to delude yourself into believing you have succeeded, or will always succeed.
No, you claimed i was a liar instead of doing that. Which is also a common shill/troll tactic. Coincidence, i’m sure...
When? Please cite/quote my statement. You have clearly misunderstood me - which is unsurprising because by your own admission - you are only ignoring and mocking anyway.
How about collaborating with people who don’t want you to be exterminated and would help to fight against it? Your attitude and approach prevent all collaboration and communication with others, especially those that disagree with you in any way. Your echo chamber, of your own making, does you harm.
No one said it was. I said demanding things was petulant. If you have truth, it will stand and defend itself by its own merit and virtue. Again your ad hominem, vitriol, and calls to suicide are unnecessary, across purposes, and only harming you. Such tactics are only resorted to when you don’t have truth...
No one said it was. I said it was childish and self defeating. Instead, request. As for the specific example i mock demanded citation and proof for - you could never provide it (especially not to a disingenuous party using such demands as a rhetorical device) and such demands only serve to disable communication/collaboration. That is their purpose.
You may well be as well, but a little earnest discussion shouldn’t hurt to try and remedy that. Don’t avoid it out of cowardice, pride, and/or vanity.
No one said that except you, just now. I said proof was subjective.
There is nothing wrong with wanting to know the truth. Your problem is declaring you already have it, sticking your fingers in your ears, and screaming like a child at everyone who has a differing view.
What makes you a troll is trolling. You can stop anytime you wish - i hope.
Yes, that’s right. Demanding citation/evidence as a flimsy pretext to derail, disable, and discredit is a common shill/troll tactic. Do you seriously not recognize that?
No one is saying you should. This is a discussion about collaboration, communication, and civility/behavior.
We are not discussing truth. You keep conflating / shifting to it, but we are really discussing tactic, approach/behavior, and effective communication.
It is true that you shouldn’t accept claims you, yourself, have not thoroughly validated first. It is not true that demanding such validation is the best way to go about that.
All the more reason to foster collaboration and rally allies. Your current approach has the opposite effect. If that is not your intention, you should stop working to help your enemy and do their work (divide) for them.
It’s called mindless belligerence, and it only hinders communication and collaboration.
To continue your metaphor, you are an auto-immune disease. You are attacking all indiscriminately, and are not communicating effectively enough to even determine who the relativists might be before blindly attacking. For instance, i am not a relativist - but you are too busy mocking, ignoring, attacking, and urging suicide to notice.