That you can’t maintain conversational context for even a single post. Even AI Dungeon does better than that.
Perhaps, but i think i’ve just given it more thought than you.
Nah.
Ideas most often do not spring from evidence
No one said otherwise.
nor is evidence required to support them
If you expect anyone to take you seriously or believe you, they do.
Ideas can be and often are compelling in and of themselves.
Nope. The compelling part is when they’re truthful. Truth is innate to being.
Lol. This is not a debate.
Thanks for admitting your ideas are false.
Currently it barely qualifies as a conversation
Yes, that’d be because I’m only mocking you and not pretending otherwise. Your physical inability to stay on topic or prove your claims has LONG been proven. This is just to keep you away from sane people.
your pigheaded adversarial demeanor
Truth is like that, yeah. It doesn’t waver in the face of autistic retards who think that subjectivism exists. I try to reflect truth.
As i said, your belief/assumption that everything you have said is correct is stupid
Good thing I have no such belief or assumption, isn’t it? Burn in hell, you fucking retard. If anything I said was wrong, you would have proven it long ago. But you believe proof doesn’t exist conceptually. You can’t do it.
Pride is a fools fortress and shame’s cloak. Cast it aside if you can.
Cool, no pride here. Project somewhere else, fuckstick.
Then how is it i can and do?
You don’t. Enjoy your mockery.
This is another demonstration of your disagreeing civilly?
No, you’re not human, so you deserve no civility. How many times does this need said?
Lol. You “get” to disagree with anything.
Enjoy your mockery.
You can and should disagree with “truth” when that “truth” is false.
Then it’s not truth. Words have definitions. I refuse to play your saussurean games, relativist.
Why can’t a person just be f*ing wrong anymore?
You are wrong. I am explaining why you are wrong. You are reacting as a shill does in the face of this.
Why is everyone automatically a liar?
Why do you beat your wife? (Honestly, do you trust anything some retard on the Internet says, sight unseen?)
And how is being uncivil to those who could help you in your struggle
You’ve already admitted you don’t believe truth exists. You’re on the other side of the struggle.
If you commit yourself to acting in such a way, you are preventing collaboration.
Yep, I don’t give a shit about collaborating with people who want me exterminated. “You have to let gays and nonwhites and atheists into your movement because they’re totally on your side!” Fuck your civnat bullshit.
Divide and conquer is a simple game and a fundamental tactic of our common enemy.
My common enemy is subjectivity. Everything stems from subjectivism.
Perhaps you should stop helping them?
Perhaps you should stop being a subjectivist.
You can of course demand anything you wish, but you are not entitled to receive anything.
You can demand your ideas be entertained without proof, but you are not entitled to anything but mockery.
You will catch more flies with honey
No, actually, and you’ll catch even more with a pile of shit, but that doesn’t matter to me because I deal in truth.
and demanding/screaming at them will always tend to drive them away.
Good.
many of those people in those groups are not willing participants. They need help
You can dismiss anything you want. But don’t be surprised when your close minded and needlessly adversarial approach prevents you from learning new things and effectively communicating.
Cool. Hasn’t so far. Has prevented me from falling for lies, though.
You haven’t thought this through
Have. Indeed, had to dumb it down to elementary level comprehension.
Proof is not something you can give another (outside of mathematics).
lol, you’re mentally ill.
It is too subjective.
“Truth is subjective,” yes, you’re mentally ill. Just like I said before. You’re beyond salvation.
No speculation, no thought
NOT WHEN THE TOPIC IS NOT A MATTER OF OPINION, YOU FUCKING RELATIVIST.
Citation please. Provide proof.
Right. Like that. It’s not that hard to demand it of others.
Am i getting through to you at all?
No, I don’t engage with proven psychopaths except to mock them and waste their time. You’re a relativist. You’re beyond saving.
You seem caught in a loop
Congrats, you noticed that I’m purposely dragging you into a loop to further mock your inability to comprehend objectivity as a concept. We’ll go around again if you like.
and are advocating for a common troll/shill tactic.
Yeah, trolls and shills always want to know the truth. They always demand evidence for claims. That’s definitely how they behave.
My people are being exterminated from the face of the Earth. I don’t give a single flying fuck about hurting the feelings of a paid shill on a meaningless Internet website. I want you to kill yourself, in real life, for no other reason than thinking that I should give a shit what some genocidal communist whore thinks about me. Censor yourself, then, you fucking milquetoast.
as well as adversarial
Good. It’s called an immune response. I don’t want my white blood cells to welcome the cancer in and show it where all the good organs are.
which only prevents communication and collaboration.
That you can’t maintain conversational context for even a single post
Can you? If so, explain what you meant specifically, if anything, by “No one said a goddamn thing you claimed.” Otherwise, don’t waste your breath.
If you expect anyone to take you seriously or believe you, they do.
I don’t expect nor demand anything, that’s your script. I certainly don’t want them to believe anything. Belief is the enemy of knowledge, and objective study of any kind. I can, of course, provide evidence - but that isn’t as meaningful as you misunderstand it to be. All mythology has evidence.
The compelling part is when they’re truthful
Lol. You can’t be this naive. Why are so many fooled by lies/falsity? Why are so many so wrong so often/consistently (including yourself)? Was it because they were too compelled by truth to notice? Don’t be silly. The truth hurts; it is often not compelling at all and a “bitter pill” besides.
This is just to keep you away from sane people.
No one is reading this but us - this thread has been deleted to boot. Technically only i am reading this; you are ignoring and mocking it to protect your foolish pride :(
The only reason to continue is because you wish to communicate/discuss, or because you are a disingenuous troll who enjoys (and/or is paid for) wasting time.
I hope it is the former, for both our sakes.
I try to reflect truth.
And that is a good and lofty goal. It is stupid to delude yourself into believing you have succeeded, or will always succeed.
You are wrong. I am explaining why you are wrong
No, you claimed i was a liar instead of doing that. Which is also a common shill/troll tactic. Coincidence, i’m sure...
You’ve already admitted you don’t believe truth exists
When? Please cite/quote my statement. You have clearly misunderstood me - which is unsurprising because by your own admission - you are only ignoring and mocking anyway.
Yep, I don’t give a shit about collaborating with people who want me exterminated
How about collaborating with people who don’t want you to be exterminated and would help to fight against it? Your attitude and approach prevent all collaboration and communication with others, especially those that disagree with you in any way. Your echo chamber, of your own making, does you harm.
truth is not petulance
No one said it was. I said demanding things was petulant. If you have truth, it will stand and defend itself by its own merit and virtue. Again your ad hominem, vitriol, and calls to suicide are unnecessary, across purposes, and only harming you. Such tactics are only resorted to when you don’t have truth...
It’s not that hard to demand it of others
No one said it was. I said it was childish and self defeating. Instead, request. As for the specific example i mock demanded citation and proof for - you could never provide it (especially not to a disingenuous party using such demands as a rhetorical device) and such demands only serve to disable communication/collaboration. That is their purpose.
You’re beyond saving.
You may well be as well, but a little earnest discussion shouldn’t hurt to try and remedy that. Don’t avoid it out of cowardice, pride, and/or vanity.
“Truth is subjective,”
No one said that except you, just now. I said proof was subjective.
Yeah, trolls and shills always want to know the truth
There is nothing wrong with wanting to know the truth. Your problem is declaring you already have it, sticking your fingers in your ears, and screaming like a child at everyone who has a differing view.
What makes you a troll is trolling. You can stop anytime you wish - i hope.
They always demand evidence for claims. That’s definitely how they behave.
Yes, that’s right. Demanding citation/evidence as a flimsy pretext to derail, disable, and discredit is a common shill/troll tactic. Do you seriously not recognize that?
I’m not compromising with objective, metaphysical evil.
No one is saying you should. This is a discussion about collaboration, communication, and civility/behavior.
Truth is the wall
We are not discussing truth. You keep conflating / shifting to it, but we are really discussing tactic, approach/behavior, and effective communication.
It is true that you shouldn’t accept claims you, yourself, have not thoroughly validated first. It is not true that demanding such validation is the best way to go about that.
My people are being exterminated from the face of the Earth
All the more reason to foster collaboration and rally allies. Your current approach has the opposite effect. If that is not your intention, you should stop working to help your enemy and do their work (divide) for them.
It’s called an immune response
It’s called mindless belligerence, and it only hinders communication and collaboration.
I’m not collaborating with relativists
To continue your metaphor, you are an auto-immune disease. You are attacking all indiscriminately, and are not communicating effectively enough to even determine who the relativists might be before blindly attacking. For instance, i am not a relativist - but you are too busy mocking, ignoring, attacking, and urging suicide to notice.
From that comment, two quotes stand out..."Another user (who I know is genuine) made the case in modmail that TallestSkil is a passionate and genuine user of this website, and asked he be unbanned on conspiracies despite his tendency to resort to telling other users to kill themselves in arguments."
and "I don't think anyone could make the case convincingly to me that TallestSkil is simply a spammer or troll who hates this website and it's users in general and is only here to troll, and as such needs to be banned outright."
So some user vouched for TallestSkil, and that apparently makes him bulletproof? The moderator is BEYOND convincing? TallestSkil says things like, "It’s cute to see all the autistic cowards come together to have a circle jerk of lies"...how is that not an attack on the users?
Same thing with the shill iknowitsu. Just recently said, "Too bad most the people here have a ridiculously low IQ." Apparently stuff like that is fine.
One can only surmise that they are alts of the mods, admin accounts, or that the mods are complicit.
If he thinks Jews are evil, why is he attacking conspiracy theorists?
Because in classic conpro shill form, everyone who disagrees with him is automatically a “jew”.
Apparently stuff like that is fine.
We can’t very well ban proud/vain delusion and stupidity. I mean, we can but there won’t be many people left here.
I can’t speak to why the mods here support or defend tallestskill. I can understand not tolerating death threats, encouraging of suicide, or general ad hominem of any kind. Helping to train such users to follow those simple rules or not be part of the discussion through banning and/or deletion of such comments is certainly arguable.
As a mod myself (not of this community of course), i personally tolerate such things because i detest censorship and support freedom of speech to a fault. My line is disingenuousness. If you are a bot, or willfully trolling - essentially only then will you be banned/silenced. In any case, if your community has rules (most of them do not - it is not straightforward to populate them in the communities.win format) they should certainly be equally apportioned.
One can only surmise that they are alts of the mods, admin accounts, or that the mods are complicit.
That would be sad. Such things do happen, and would undoubtedly be a tactic to ensure communities like this always remain “limited hangouts” and to stifle/destroy community whenever possible.
That you can’t maintain conversational context for even a single post. Even AI Dungeon does better than that.
Nah.
No one said otherwise.
If you expect anyone to take you seriously or believe you, they do.
Nope. The compelling part is when they’re truthful. Truth is innate to being.
Thanks for admitting your ideas are false.
Yes, that’d be because I’m only mocking you and not pretending otherwise. Your physical inability to stay on topic or prove your claims has LONG been proven. This is just to keep you away from sane people.
Truth is like that, yeah. It doesn’t waver in the face of autistic retards who think that subjectivism exists. I try to reflect truth.
Good thing I have no such belief or assumption, isn’t it? Burn in hell, you fucking retard. If anything I said was wrong, you would have proven it long ago. But you believe proof doesn’t exist conceptually. You can’t do it.
Cool, no pride here. Project somewhere else, fuckstick.
You don’t. Enjoy your mockery.
No, you’re not human, so you deserve no civility. How many times does this need said?
Enjoy your mockery.
Then it’s not truth. Words have definitions. I refuse to play your saussurean games, relativist.
You are wrong. I am explaining why you are wrong. You are reacting as a shill does in the face of this.
Why do you beat your wife? (Honestly, do you trust anything some retard on the Internet says, sight unseen?)
You’ve already admitted you don’t believe truth exists. You’re on the other side of the struggle.
Yep, I don’t give a shit about collaborating with people who want me exterminated. “You have to let gays and nonwhites and atheists into your movement because they’re totally on your side!” Fuck your civnat bullshit.
My common enemy is subjectivity. Everything stems from subjectivism.
Perhaps you should stop being a subjectivist.
You can demand your ideas be entertained without proof, but you are not entitled to anything but mockery.
No, actually, and you’ll catch even more with a pile of shit, but that doesn’t matter to me because I deal in truth.
Good.
And they cannot–and will not–get it until “a military boot crashes into his fat bottom.” Words can’t fix them. They are beyond words.
lol, truth is not petulance.
Cool. Hasn’t so far. Has prevented me from falling for lies, though.
Have. Indeed, had to dumb it down to elementary level comprehension.
lol, you’re mentally ill.
“Truth is subjective,” yes, you’re mentally ill. Just like I said before. You’re beyond salvation.
NOT WHEN THE TOPIC IS NOT A MATTER OF OPINION, YOU FUCKING RELATIVIST.
Right. Like that. It’s not that hard to demand it of others.
No, I don’t engage with proven psychopaths except to mock them and waste their time. You’re a relativist. You’re beyond saving.
Congrats, you noticed that I’m purposely dragging you into a loop to further mock your inability to comprehend objectivity as a concept. We’ll go around again if you like.
Yeah, trolls and shills always want to know the truth. They always demand evidence for claims. That’s definitely how they behave.
Enjoy your genocide, then. I’m not compromising with objective, metaphysical evil.
Truth is the wall. There is nothing beyond.
My people are being exterminated from the face of the Earth. I don’t give a single flying fuck about hurting the feelings of a paid shill on a meaningless Internet website. I want you to kill yourself, in real life, for no other reason than thinking that I should give a shit what some genocidal communist whore thinks about me. Censor yourself, then, you fucking milquetoast.
Good. It’s called an immune response. I don’t want my white blood cells to welcome the cancer in and show it where all the good organs are.
I’m not collaborating with relativists. Ever.
Can you? If so, explain what you meant specifically, if anything, by “No one said a goddamn thing you claimed.” Otherwise, don’t waste your breath.
I don’t expect nor demand anything, that’s your script. I certainly don’t want them to believe anything. Belief is the enemy of knowledge, and objective study of any kind. I can, of course, provide evidence - but that isn’t as meaningful as you misunderstand it to be. All mythology has evidence.
Lol. You can’t be this naive. Why are so many fooled by lies/falsity? Why are so many so wrong so often/consistently (including yourself)? Was it because they were too compelled by truth to notice? Don’t be silly. The truth hurts; it is often not compelling at all and a “bitter pill” besides.
No one is reading this but us - this thread has been deleted to boot. Technically only i am reading this; you are ignoring and mocking it to protect your foolish pride :(
The only reason to continue is because you wish to communicate/discuss, or because you are a disingenuous troll who enjoys (and/or is paid for) wasting time.
I hope it is the former, for both our sakes.
And that is a good and lofty goal. It is stupid to delude yourself into believing you have succeeded, or will always succeed.
No, you claimed i was a liar instead of doing that. Which is also a common shill/troll tactic. Coincidence, i’m sure...
When? Please cite/quote my statement. You have clearly misunderstood me - which is unsurprising because by your own admission - you are only ignoring and mocking anyway.
How about collaborating with people who don’t want you to be exterminated and would help to fight against it? Your attitude and approach prevent all collaboration and communication with others, especially those that disagree with you in any way. Your echo chamber, of your own making, does you harm.
No one said it was. I said demanding things was petulant. If you have truth, it will stand and defend itself by its own merit and virtue. Again your ad hominem, vitriol, and calls to suicide are unnecessary, across purposes, and only harming you. Such tactics are only resorted to when you don’t have truth...
No one said it was. I said it was childish and self defeating. Instead, request. As for the specific example i mock demanded citation and proof for - you could never provide it (especially not to a disingenuous party using such demands as a rhetorical device) and such demands only serve to disable communication/collaboration. That is their purpose.
You may well be as well, but a little earnest discussion shouldn’t hurt to try and remedy that. Don’t avoid it out of cowardice, pride, and/or vanity.
No one said that except you, just now. I said proof was subjective.
There is nothing wrong with wanting to know the truth. Your problem is declaring you already have it, sticking your fingers in your ears, and screaming like a child at everyone who has a differing view.
What makes you a troll is trolling. You can stop anytime you wish - i hope.
Yes, that’s right. Demanding citation/evidence as a flimsy pretext to derail, disable, and discredit is a common shill/troll tactic. Do you seriously not recognize that?
No one is saying you should. This is a discussion about collaboration, communication, and civility/behavior.
We are not discussing truth. You keep conflating / shifting to it, but we are really discussing tactic, approach/behavior, and effective communication.
It is true that you shouldn’t accept claims you, yourself, have not thoroughly validated first. It is not true that demanding such validation is the best way to go about that.
All the more reason to foster collaboration and rally allies. Your current approach has the opposite effect. If that is not your intention, you should stop working to help your enemy and do their work (divide) for them.
It’s called mindless belligerence, and it only hinders communication and collaboration.
To continue your metaphor, you are an auto-immune disease. You are attacking all indiscriminately, and are not communicating effectively enough to even determine who the relativists might be before blindly attacking. For instance, i am not a relativist - but you are too busy mocking, ignoring, attacking, and urging suicide to notice.
Do you think if he were REALLY white and not Jewish, he would be arguing and slandering every white person on here?
If he thinks Jews are evil, why is he attacking conspiracy theorists?
And why is this done with the APPROVAL of the mods?
From that comment, two quotes stand out..."Another user (who I know is genuine) made the case in modmail that TallestSkil is a passionate and genuine user of this website, and asked he be unbanned on conspiracies despite his tendency to resort to telling other users to kill themselves in arguments."
and "I don't think anyone could make the case convincingly to me that TallestSkil is simply a spammer or troll who hates this website and it's users in general and is only here to troll, and as such needs to be banned outright."
So some user vouched for TallestSkil, and that apparently makes him bulletproof? The moderator is BEYOND convincing? TallestSkil says things like, "It’s cute to see all the autistic cowards come together to have a circle jerk of lies"...how is that not an attack on the users?
Same thing with the shill iknowitsu. Just recently said, "Too bad most the people here have a ridiculously low IQ." Apparently stuff like that is fine.
One can only surmise that they are alts of the mods, admin accounts, or that the mods are complicit.
Because in classic conpro shill form, everyone who disagrees with him is automatically a “jew”.
We can’t very well ban proud/vain delusion and stupidity. I mean, we can but there won’t be many people left here.
I can’t speak to why the mods here support or defend tallestskill. I can understand not tolerating death threats, encouraging of suicide, or general ad hominem of any kind. Helping to train such users to follow those simple rules or not be part of the discussion through banning and/or deletion of such comments is certainly arguable.
As a mod myself (not of this community of course), i personally tolerate such things because i detest censorship and support freedom of speech to a fault. My line is disingenuousness. If you are a bot, or willfully trolling - essentially only then will you be banned/silenced. In any case, if your community has rules (most of them do not - it is not straightforward to populate them in the communities.win format) they should certainly be equally apportioned.
That would be sad. Such things do happen, and would undoubtedly be a tactic to ensure communities like this always remain “limited hangouts” and to stifle/destroy community whenever possible.
That's the thing....Tallestskil IS willfully trolling.
He will scan all the threads for any mention of himself, and then immediately pounce. I caught him doing this multiple times now.
That is NOT someone interested in truth or conspiracies.