So for sake of argument, even if the ground speed was half the true air speed (I don't believe it would even come close to making that much of a difference), this would make the ground speed 1,100mph. This would be 2.5 miles every minute, and 222.6 feet per second of earth curve; the plane would have to decend this much to not fly off into space.
For another example, take a commercial Jet going 600 mph ground speed. They usually go slower than this, but they are capable of these speeds. That would mean the jet goes 60 miles every 6 minutes. The jet would have to decend 2400 feet every 6 minutes; and they typically fly around 35,000 ft altitude. Does this sound plausible?
Given a spy plane flying at 70,000 feet follows a larger circumference of a circle, than the earth's circumference at sea level. But considering how large the earth's circumference allegedly is (24,901 miles), this would not be a real significant difference.
I think I see the difference in understanding might be coming from. In my point of view, these planes don't need to descend because the gravity is uniformly distributed from the center of the earth and thus is relative to its altitude. To basically fly off the earth (ie not descend 2400 ft in your example) in my point means that they need to continue to climb relative to the surface. Since this is not happening, in my view, means that marinating altitude is already factoring in the curvature.
Well I appreciate the honest answer instead of all the angry emotional morons that typically respond to FE posts. My goal in this post was to draw a picture of how dramtically the earth curves, and exponentially more so the faster and farther you travel (obviously). I've pointed out this question to 2 Navy pilots, and 1 commercial pilot in real life. One navy pilot was completely stumped, the other 2 pilots gave the same answer as you but I could tell they were unsettled with their answer. I know little of aerodynamics, but when I asked if following this earth curve at 2200mph, does gravity allow you to ignore any maneuvering or aerodynamic effect or decending 873.7 feet per second? They all just looked disturbed.
Another question they could not answer, and is some of the most rock solid evidence we live on a fixed plane, the gyroscopes planes use cannot function on a rotating Orbiting sphere. A gyroscope holds its orientation in space regardless of gravity, inertia or any other motion. So if you flew from CA to Australia, the gyroscope should say you are nearly upside-down. Not to mention earth's rotation and orbit effecting it. They need these gyroscopes to orient the plane over a flat and level runway. This concept has woken up countless pilots, and many have been fired or grounded for pointing it out. One gyroscope manufacturer claimed the gyro is corrected through GPS, but this would not account for earth spin or orbit. And many pilots find that their gyro keeps working even when GPS stops functioning. It is a purely mechanical device. This pilot explains the concept:
Analogy is turning left in a car. You slightly turn the wheel and car starts turning. Unless you turn the wheel back to the right you'll continue turning. Thus even if there were a curvature to compensate for it would only require one minute adjustment but a constant recalibration. So it really comes back to examining the distance traveled and whether it indicates spherical geometry imo
You can feel the car turning though. Every regular plane trip goes through this process: taxi (level to ground), takeoff (at incline), level (except for turbulence, which you definitely feel), descent (at decline), landing (level). If your theory were true, then the higher altitude you fly at, the longer the trip would be.
We don't measure the "drop" as being separate from the millage. If we measure 400 miles, it's 400 miles. The problem here is simple. This is controlled opposition. you can recognize it as such, because it is self evident, and easily disproved. These are things we are 'allowed' to debated as they will bring you to the 'correct' conclusion, or make you look foolish.
Since you can't actually see the whole earth all at once, you must focus on what you can see, and sense. Ask Questions like: Does it make sense for the equator to be spinning faster than the speed of sound? Or, are the stars different in the winter as apposed to the summer? And, why don't we have images of the far side of the moon? And why were the moon landing photos faked?
This is a really fun topic, ahem, do you interrupt your mom talking about all of the johns she fucked on any given week to impress upon her how important it is for her to believe the...ahem...Earth is flat?
Probably not, right? Well, you probably shouldn't interrupt the flow of this board for the very same reasons.
We wanna talk about how these mothers are fucking us.
Just like the vax, the more you people push this shit, the less legitimate and desireable it looks, and let me tell you, you're already starting WAAAAAAY below baseline. Just saying.
You are either seeking to know the truth, or not. NO vaccine is fully safe, effective or necessary. We live on a flat stationary plane, in a dome, which accounts for our water cycle and phenomenon such as rainbows and sun dogs. Just saying.
Ok and just to reiterate (and given there are several variables involved I think are insignificant to the example) a spy plane moving 2200 mph has to 'drop' 9.9 miles per minute, and 873.7 feet per second in order to maintain a level altitude over the curve of the earth. Your statement makes this insane trajectory plausible?
I know this suggestion doesn't sound very scientific but just watch some videos of spy planes flying at these immense speeds. Are they really dropping 873.7 feet per second to keep up with earth's curvature. Or are they simply flying over a fixed and flat earth? I mean really try to imagine how insane that trajectory is.
9.8 meters per second per second. 9.8m the first second, 19.6m the second, 29.4 the third... After an hour-long trek riding in a hot air balloon, the wicker basket should be falling towards the earth at 35km/s.
First of all the plane has 'lift' so it is not falling due to gravity, and it's in atmosphere so it's not like we are talking about a satellite in orbit. So I don't see how that applies at all.
Second the plane traveling 2200mph, has to drop 595.7 miles in one hour to follow earth's curve. This is far beyond any terminal velocity even of a very aerodynamic object. But again, it's not falling due to lift. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, does no one see how ridiculous it is for a plane to drop 9.9 miles per minute? By all appearances it's flying straight and level, not following some dramatic earth curve trajectory.
I was demonstrating that if you take only a portion of the mathematics and ignore the rest, you get strange results. It's exactly the same principle as what you are doing.
I mean all you basically said is gravity makes it work like magic. I am describing the geometric path the plane has to follow if earth is a sphere as we are told. I'm saying it's impossible because if you were following a trajectory that dips 837 feet per second, there is no way you could perceive it as a straight and level path. If you can set aside globe programming we have had from birth, no one perceives this earth curvature when flying at any speed, and how could you not if it's as dramatic as I outlined?
if you were following a trajectory that dips 837 feet per second, there is no way you could perceive it as a straight and level path
Depending on your frame of reference. If you continuously preserve "down" to mean towards the center of the earth, then there is no 837' drop, because you're frame of reference compensates.
If your frame of reference is far from earth looking onward, then gravity doesn't pull the plane your perspective's "down" the entire time, but instead the angle of incidence of the force of gravity shifts continually, maintaining a direction inward toward the center of the earth.
You oversimplify and then say "impossible" instead of thinking it through.
I guess draw a diagram of the plane's initial and final locations, and draw the vectors where you think gravity and lift are directed at each location. Should be apparent, but I guess for some it isn't.
Alright, I appreciate you addressing it seriously. And I get what you are saying that as gravity shifts as you go around the curve it makes this 'drop' unapparent for lack of a better word. I just don't agree that gravity could hide any hint of flying an arc that dramatic (due to the speed).
Incase you were interested in addressing another FE proof for shits and giggles. Here is a video explaining how their gyroscopes work, and how they cannot possibly function on a rotating/Orbiting sphere. Essentially if you flew from USA to Australia your gyro which is meant to orient you to a level runway, would show that you are upside down. Airplane Gyros hold their rigidity in space regardless of gravity, inertia, rotation or any other motion. This issue has turned countless pilots into FE's and many have been fired or grounded over the issue.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/hRBuIFBed0tq/
Sorry this is 3 days late.
Squared formulas just dont work our of context. If you take a curve squared you would wind up with a curly cue shape as it gets exponentially tighter squared. Same with gravity.
I share you view that this place is not at all what we are told. And I have found that if you run down any conspiracy theory they all have enough to back them up. This place is crazy.
All that aside planes are not falling at 600 miles an hour. They would be following the curve. flat flight. Flat flight is measured by where you are, not a mile away. How high do they say you have to be to see the curve? Way the heck up there. IF that is true it seems to me that it would not be noticeable to maintain level flight.
Again I do not believe we have been told the truth about anything.
I Appreciate the open mind bud. Seeing the censorship surrounding FE, and the programmed outrage towards discussing it only re-enforces my confidence in it.
Humor me for a second and let's say flat earth is true, and everyone found out...
-Biblical cosmology would be correct.
-Our creator would be undeniable.
-Big bang, evolution, relativity and atheism would go in the toilet.
-MSM, Globalist cabal, academia, rothchild banking would all collapse.
-normies would be forced to confront their programming.
Though I am Christian, I was convinced of flat earth through weeks of sleepless research, and only later realized its biblical truth.
Oh sweet, you know what's up. I got my brother in on it too, and he freaked out on me a bit when I first brought it up.
I remember the first time I really accepted FE as the truth after researching, I was staring out the window on a plane, and I started laughing like the Joaquin Phoenix Joker. Everyone looked at me weird.
Hey do me a favor and go to a search engine and type 'biblical cosmology' and tell me what images show up. Is it a sphere earth, or a fixed plane earth with a firmament over it?
Why can everyone south of the equator see the exact same stars rotating in the same direction around the same fixed central point in the sky due south of them if they’re supposedly all looking in different directions?
Why are the distances between degrees of latitude uniform and don’t grow exponentially away from the equator?
Why does everyone on Earth get the same result for the Eratosthenes experiment, when people nearer the equator should get a much smaller circumference for the Earth than those nearer the poles?
Come to think of it, was Eratosthenes part of the “round Earth” conspiracy?
Surviving records show that the ancient Egyptians and Mesopotamians based their astronomical forecasts on calculations assuming the Earth is a globe. Did this conspiracy begin at the dawn of civilization, or are all ancient artifacts nothing but Victorian forgeries? If so, why has this never been detected by modern carbon-dating techniques?
Why do arc lengths of given angles of longitude decrease rather than increase south of the equator?
Why does the sun not rise in the northeast and set in the northwest, year round, for everyone on Earth?
Why DOES the sun set, when the law of perspective states that the angular size of the sun’s altitude, like everything else, can’t become negative?
Why does the sun’s angular size not change throughout the day or year, since it is “moving toward and away from us” and is “closer than we’re told”?
Seriously, did you fall asleep during geometry class, or are you just completely demented?
If you believe in zeteticism, why do you keep relying on magical and unprovable solutions, which can’t be shown to exist with your own eyes and clearly don’t exist at all? Apparently, zeteticism is just code for “make any old bullshit up and pretend it’s true.”
If all photographs of a round Earth are a hoax, why not simply create photographs of a flat Earth?
A property of mass is that it has gravitational force regardless of size. If the Earth did not have a gravitational field, wouldn’t that imply that the Earth doesn’t physically exist?
Where is the Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station located if the south “pole” is the whole circumference of the Earth?
Wouldn’t creating such elaborate fakes and conspiracies cost an equal–if not greater–amount of money than the science they are supposedly covering up?
The idea of the Earth as a sphere has existed at least since the time of the ancient Greeks, long before NASA. What were their financial motives?
What financial motives could NASA have, since their budget is still cut every year?
How could the sun be a spotlight if it is a sphere? On the flat Earth, the light projection would have to be a semicircle.
Why does the North Star goes to the horizon?
Why do constellations appear to be different in the Southern and Northern hemispheres?
Why is the Coriolis effect stronger near both poles, instead of stronger in the north and weaker in the south?
If the circumferential south pole is preventing the oceans from pouring over the edge of the flat Earth, why didn’t the oceans disappear during the incredible amount of time it would have taken for that ice to form?
If the oceans would–if they could–pour off the edge of the flat Earth, where, then, would they go? Does this mean that whatever keeps the oceans on the surface of the flat Earth only operates in a downward direction on the uppermost surface and is absent on the underneath?
Why are satellites visible from Earth with a pair of binoculars and even the naked eye?
How could a flat body maintain an atmosphere?
Why are other celestial bodies spheres but the Earth is not? How, and why, was the Earth created differently?
Fuck, can you pick your top 2 or 3 points from that exhaustive list for me to address for your low testosterone overly emotional mind? I really hope you didn't copy and paste all of that from somewhere.
Ground speed vs air speed
So for sake of argument, even if the ground speed was half the true air speed (I don't believe it would even come close to making that much of a difference), this would make the ground speed 1,100mph. This would be 2.5 miles every minute, and 222.6 feet per second of earth curve; the plane would have to decend this much to not fly off into space.
For another example, take a commercial Jet going 600 mph ground speed. They usually go slower than this, but they are capable of these speeds. That would mean the jet goes 60 miles every 6 minutes. The jet would have to decend 2400 feet every 6 minutes; and they typically fly around 35,000 ft altitude. Does this sound plausible?
Given a spy plane flying at 70,000 feet follows a larger circumference of a circle, than the earth's circumference at sea level. But considering how large the earth's circumference allegedly is (24,901 miles), this would not be a real significant difference.
I think I see the difference in understanding might be coming from. In my point of view, these planes don't need to descend because the gravity is uniformly distributed from the center of the earth and thus is relative to its altitude. To basically fly off the earth (ie not descend 2400 ft in your example) in my point means that they need to continue to climb relative to the surface. Since this is not happening, in my view, means that marinating altitude is already factoring in the curvature.
Well I appreciate the honest answer instead of all the angry emotional morons that typically respond to FE posts. My goal in this post was to draw a picture of how dramtically the earth curves, and exponentially more so the faster and farther you travel (obviously). I've pointed out this question to 2 Navy pilots, and 1 commercial pilot in real life. One navy pilot was completely stumped, the other 2 pilots gave the same answer as you but I could tell they were unsettled with their answer. I know little of aerodynamics, but when I asked if following this earth curve at 2200mph, does gravity allow you to ignore any maneuvering or aerodynamic effect or decending 873.7 feet per second? They all just looked disturbed.
Another question they could not answer, and is some of the most rock solid evidence we live on a fixed plane, the gyroscopes planes use cannot function on a rotating Orbiting sphere. A gyroscope holds its orientation in space regardless of gravity, inertia or any other motion. So if you flew from CA to Australia, the gyroscope should say you are nearly upside-down. Not to mention earth's rotation and orbit effecting it. They need these gyroscopes to orient the plane over a flat and level runway. This concept has woken up countless pilots, and many have been fired or grounded for pointing it out. One gyroscope manufacturer claimed the gyro is corrected through GPS, but this would not account for earth spin or orbit. And many pilots find that their gyro keeps working even when GPS stops functioning. It is a purely mechanical device. This pilot explains the concept:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/hRBuIFBed0tq/
Analogy is turning left in a car. You slightly turn the wheel and car starts turning. Unless you turn the wheel back to the right you'll continue turning. Thus even if there were a curvature to compensate for it would only require one minute adjustment but a constant recalibration. So it really comes back to examining the distance traveled and whether it indicates spherical geometry imo
You can feel the car turning though. Every regular plane trip goes through this process: taxi (level to ground), takeoff (at incline), level (except for turbulence, which you definitely feel), descent (at decline), landing (level). If your theory were true, then the higher altitude you fly at, the longer the trip would be.
*Descend... If you really wanted to promote your flat earth theories, you'd choose an argument that isn't so laughably ludicrous.
People always go after spelling or grammar when they are to retarded to participate in a debate.
There's not a debate found in random collections of characters.
We don't measure the "drop" as being separate from the millage. If we measure 400 miles, it's 400 miles. The problem here is simple. This is controlled opposition. you can recognize it as such, because it is self evident, and easily disproved. These are things we are 'allowed' to debated as they will bring you to the 'correct' conclusion, or make you look foolish.
Since you can't actually see the whole earth all at once, you must focus on what you can see, and sense. Ask Questions like: Does it make sense for the equator to be spinning faster than the speed of sound? Or, are the stars different in the winter as apposed to the summer? And, why don't we have images of the far side of the moon? And why were the moon landing photos faked?
This is a really fun topic, ahem, do you interrupt your mom talking about all of the johns she fucked on any given week to impress upon her how important it is for her to believe the...ahem...Earth is flat?
Probably not, right? Well, you probably shouldn't interrupt the flow of this board for the very same reasons.
We wanna talk about how these mothers are fucking us.
Just like the vax, the more you people push this shit, the less legitimate and desireable it looks, and let me tell you, you're already starting WAAAAAAY below baseline. Just saying.
You are either seeking to know the truth, or not. NO vaccine is fully safe, effective or necessary. We live on a flat stationary plane, in a dome, which accounts for our water cycle and phenomenon such as rainbows and sun dogs. Just saying.
I have personally seen the moon through a friend's telescope and it was spherical.
We do not live on the moon.
Air is a fluid, and gravity is always oriented to the strongest source.
Ok and just to reiterate (and given there are several variables involved I think are insignificant to the example) a spy plane moving 2200 mph has to 'drop' 9.9 miles per minute, and 873.7 feet per second in order to maintain a level altitude over the curve of the earth. Your statement makes this insane trajectory plausible?
I know this suggestion doesn't sound very scientific but just watch some videos of spy planes flying at these immense speeds. Are they really dropping 873.7 feet per second to keep up with earth's curvature. Or are they simply flying over a fixed and flat earth? I mean really try to imagine how insane that trajectory is.
Simply ask yourself what is the speed of gravity?
9.8 meters per second per second. 9.8m the first second, 19.6m the second, 29.4 the third... After an hour-long trek riding in a hot air balloon, the wicker basket should be falling towards the earth at 35km/s.
But it doesn't.
First of all the plane has 'lift' so it is not falling due to gravity, and it's in atmosphere so it's not like we are talking about a satellite in orbit. So I don't see how that applies at all.
Second the plane traveling 2200mph, has to drop 595.7 miles in one hour to follow earth's curve. This is far beyond any terminal velocity even of a very aerodynamic object. But again, it's not falling due to lift. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, does no one see how ridiculous it is for a plane to drop 9.9 miles per minute? By all appearances it's flying straight and level, not following some dramatic earth curve trajectory.
I was demonstrating that if you take only a portion of the mathematics and ignore the rest, you get strange results. It's exactly the same principle as what you are doing.
I mean all you basically said is gravity makes it work like magic. I am describing the geometric path the plane has to follow if earth is a sphere as we are told. I'm saying it's impossible because if you were following a trajectory that dips 837 feet per second, there is no way you could perceive it as a straight and level path. If you can set aside globe programming we have had from birth, no one perceives this earth curvature when flying at any speed, and how could you not if it's as dramatic as I outlined?
Depending on your frame of reference. If you continuously preserve "down" to mean towards the center of the earth, then there is no 837' drop, because you're frame of reference compensates.
If your frame of reference is far from earth looking onward, then gravity doesn't pull the plane your perspective's "down" the entire time, but instead the angle of incidence of the force of gravity shifts continually, maintaining a direction inward toward the center of the earth.
You oversimplify and then say "impossible" instead of thinking it through.
I guess draw a diagram of the plane's initial and final locations, and draw the vectors where you think gravity and lift are directed at each location. Should be apparent, but I guess for some it isn't.
Alright, I appreciate you addressing it seriously. And I get what you are saying that as gravity shifts as you go around the curve it makes this 'drop' unapparent for lack of a better word. I just don't agree that gravity could hide any hint of flying an arc that dramatic (due to the speed).
Incase you were interested in addressing another FE proof for shits and giggles. Here is a video explaining how their gyroscopes work, and how they cannot possibly function on a rotating/Orbiting sphere. Essentially if you flew from USA to Australia your gyro which is meant to orient you to a level runway, would show that you are upside down. Airplane Gyros hold their rigidity in space regardless of gravity, inertia, rotation or any other motion. This issue has turned countless pilots into FE's and many have been fired or grounded over the issue. https://www.bitchute.com/video/hRBuIFBed0tq/
Sorry this is 3 days late. Squared formulas just dont work our of context. If you take a curve squared you would wind up with a curly cue shape as it gets exponentially tighter squared. Same with gravity. I share you view that this place is not at all what we are told. And I have found that if you run down any conspiracy theory they all have enough to back them up. This place is crazy. All that aside planes are not falling at 600 miles an hour. They would be following the curve. flat flight. Flat flight is measured by where you are, not a mile away. How high do they say you have to be to see the curve? Way the heck up there. IF that is true it seems to me that it would not be noticeable to maintain level flight. Again I do not believe we have been told the truth about anything.
Go the fuck away, well poisoner.
Great argument retard
I Appreciate the open mind bud. Seeing the censorship surrounding FE, and the programmed outrage towards discussing it only re-enforces my confidence in it.
Humor me for a second and let's say flat earth is true, and everyone found out... -Biblical cosmology would be correct. -Our creator would be undeniable. -Big bang, evolution, relativity and atheism would go in the toilet. -MSM, Globalist cabal, academia, rothchild banking would all collapse. -normies would be forced to confront their programming.
Though I am Christian, I was convinced of flat earth through weeks of sleepless research, and only later realized its biblical truth.
Oh sweet, you know what's up. I got my brother in on it too, and he freaked out on me a bit when I first brought it up.
I remember the first time I really accepted FE as the truth after researching, I was staring out the window on a plane, and I started laughing like the Joaquin Phoenix Joker. Everyone looked at me weird.
At least you did. That says a lot about following the path to the truth!
Objective falsehood.
Hey do me a favor and go to a search engine and type 'biblical cosmology' and tell me what images show up. Is it a sphere earth, or a fixed plane earth with a firmament over it?
It’s a sphere, yeah. Burn in hell, shill.
Why are you even here. Fuck off, shill.
Thanks for admitting the Earth isn’t flat.
GO THE FUCK AWAY, WELL POISONER.
Fuck, can you pick your top 2 or 3 points from that exhaustive list for me to address for your low testosterone overly emotional mind? I really hope you didn't copy and paste all of that from somewhere.
Thanks for admitting that the Earth isn’t flat.
Thanks for admitting that you are physically incapable of answering even a single question about your own claimed ideology.
Thanks for admitting that you’re too stupid to understand a topic that you yourself arose.
Thanks for admitting that you’re a paid shill.
Off yourself.
Oh great, the low T, crybaby is running his cock sucker again.