Question for Flat Earth Scientists. Why do the days change length?
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There is a link that gives a visual explanation of the path of the sun through the year. Just like on the globe model it travels between the tropics of cancer and Capricorn through the year, only on FE the sun is small and near, and it travels in expanding and contracting circles throughout the year. Side note, the book of Enoch seems to uncannily describe the path of the sun in FE terms. Not all FE people believe their is a domed firmament above us, but I do because it further explains the distribution of daylight across earth.
Also note that daylight and sunlight are two different things. I may see daylight even if the sun is beyond my horizon. The sun seems to have an EMF output that floresces the sky, and affects the light/phases of the moon (the moon is its own light, not a reflector).
We can't see the sun for an unlimited distance across flat earth for 2 main reasons. First, you can't even see across the street if it's foggy enough. Our air is not completely transparent and you may see far but you cannot see forever. 2nd is perspective, as objects go away from us they eventually vanish into a horizon at our eye level, even if we should have line of sight with the object. If a plane flies over your head at a constant 30k feet altitude, it will appear to decend into the horizon even though it is maintaing altitude.
PS, do you think that picture of earth is real?
Thank you for the thing i learned today...well....the thing i learned that i wanted to know, that is.
What exactly does that explain about lengthening days??
I'll use the term hemisphere for simplicity even though I don't believe we are on a sphere. The northern hemisphere being the part inner part of our plane surrounding the north pole, and the southern hemisphere being the outer part of our plane beyond the equator. During the northern hemisphere summer the sun is circling between the equator and the tropic of cancer. This lengthens our days in the northern hemisphere as the sun casts its light on this part of the plane for more hours of the day. As the sun moves between the equator and the tropic of Capricorn, the southern hemisphere will experience more sun/day light and the northern days will shorten.
Honestly you probably won't be able to take a look at any of this unless you first come to find that almost everything organizations like nasa tell us about space is fake. I first found out the moonlandings were complete hoaxes from a Hollywood studio. Then I found the ISS was completely fake. Then I found all satellites and images/video of space was fake including our blue spherical earth. And at that point I realized what we are told about cosmology is all lies. I would investigate these things first before flat earth if I were you, because you can't skip steps when going up the staircase of disbelief, it's just too much of a leap.
Oh you didn't mean seasonal lengthening of days, my bad. You meant days lengthening to 20 hours, 22 hours, 24 hours etc... throughout earth's history.
Well I suppose it's useless asking a flat earther because we don't believe anything mainstream science says about the age or creation of the universe, or the big bang religion. For instance they say our stars shift slowly throughout eons. Yet the Georgia guidestones which were just destroyed had a hole that constantly pointed at Polaris for 50 years. I don't believe this is possible considering the speed/distance we are hurting around the sun, and the sun is hurtling around the milky way, and the milky way is hurtling through the universe. I get they are far away, but this is still ridiculous. Why do you think the ancients depicted constellations exactly the same for thousands of years? I think the length of days changing is most likely another lie.
Well it may be a physical lie...but they certainly do change the clocks to account for it. It messes up electronics when they do it and requires intervention in some cases.
The effects are very real I can say that much. They 'act' like the time changes and they definitely make the adjustment
It could be because the heliocentric accounting of time only approximates the true flat earth accounting of time that we experience in reality. Therefore it needs constant correction. But how can we possibly be sure of what corrections they make and how often? Digital clocks can all be updated via internet automatically, and even the most accurate analog clocks are not perfect.
One of the things I find most fascinating about flat earth is that if true, then our creator set the sun, moon and stars to rotate around our plane at different rates like a big celestial clock. It does not appear to be the messy explosion the big bang suggests.
What do you think of the moon landings?
I definitely feel like they faked the moon landings and most of the space race stuff...I also question the ISS footage - while not necessarily faked.... definitely hiding shit all over the place.
I do agree that there is a common pattern throughout the universe, but I also feel like inside of chaos is a semblance of order and inside of order are slices of chaos when viewed independent to the whole.
These fuck wits live in a circle jerk of idiocy.
It's infuriating. It's circle jerks and the same handful of videos passed around....I am certain it's either a few ardent believers or....just the shills themselves who made the videos.....dubay I could see having his team just sit peddlingshit
Flat earthers are the essence of contradiction. They all claim that we've been "indoctrinated" by NASA yet they can't admit that they are equally indoctrinated by Youtube hacks who make videos that claim something is a 'fact'.
The irony comes from them telling us that the tens of thousands of explorers, scientists and physicists are all wrong, yet some jerk-off in his basement making a flat earth video is somehow believable.
Even if they go to the beach and watch a ship disappear over the horizon they will claim "perspective" yet, they can't understand how perspective actually works.
Eventually, they will send you a video of a guy who made a $100,000 challenge to prove the earth is round, yet hundreds of people claimed the money, but he just ignored them and never paid.
FE'ers are total losers.
Yeah the whole betting act is equally infuriating...they never actually make official offers and don't put up consideration and certainly don't make a legal offer that isn't filled with backout clauses
"they can't admit that they are equally indoctrinated by Youtube hacks who make videos that claim something is a 'fact'"
" Even if they go to the beach and watch a ship disappear over the horizon they will claim "perspective" yet, they can't understand how perspective actually works."
"Eventually, they will send you a video of a guy who made a $100,000 challenge to prove the earth is round, yet hundreds of people claimed the money, but he just ignored them and never paid."
Yet another moron? Geesh, it's like a party of stupid.
Huh?
If the earth was flat I could see China in Canada from a telescope, you absolute flaming retard.
If that's true then how come you can't see across the street sometimes when it's foggy? The atmosphere is not completely transparent even I'm the most ideal conditions, so we can't see through it indefinitely. This is so obvious I can't believe you got done typing that comment without thinking twice. Good job retard
So I can take a telescope and look alllllll the way through the atmosphere on a clear night and see the surface of the moon which is 238000 miles away. But that same telescope can't see China. Because the earth isn't flat you fucking idiot.
It is flat. Seems you are the fucking idiot if you don’t know about the law of perspective or the vanishing point.
Ever taken a plane across the world before?
Yep. Incline, level out (flying across the flat earth), decline.
Another obvious answer to another retarded statement. Objects in the sky, particularly the more directly overhead they are, have less atmosphere to be viewed through, and the density of air decreases with altitude. This is why the sun and moon are brightest when directly overhead, and lessen the closer they get to the horizon because they have far more atmosphere to penetrate. Humans already can't breath at 30,000 feet cause the air is so thin, and you are talking about the moon being 238k miles away as if that distance proves your point. The lower your altitude and the lower to the horizon you look, the more atmospheric density you have to obscure your vision. Globe earth and flat earth both claim this phenomenon to be true.
And yet you can still see the moon, at over 200 thousand miles away, even if it's at the horizon, but not China.
The sun and moon are small and local and just like an airplane they eventually vanish at the horizon (though they can be seen at a far greater distance than a plane). The Firmament also has an effect on their light distribution. Cultures around the world all seemed to have a version of this model, and it was even taught in USA until the cabal brainwashed everyone in the early 1900s. NASAs fake moonlandings and other works sealed the deal. It's all a plot to hide our creator and get people to become atheist and believe the big bang religion and evolution. If people knew the truth of our cosmology and creation, authorities world wide would be discredited overnight, and aethism would be impossible. But if you want to believe NASAs lies and that we live on a sphere spinning at over 1000mph, hurtling around the sun 66,616mph, the sun going around the galaxy at 514,000mph, the milky way hurtling at unimaginable speeds through the universe, yet we can't experience any of that motion and the stars never change; then go ahead and buy it. You don't have to believe flat earth is correct, but at least try to find the lies about our cosmology.
That is the dumbest fucking shit I've ever heard in my life. We've been able to measure the circumference of the earth since 1600 using shadows. But I guess they were alllllll in on the grand conspiracy.
And yes, the stars fucking change you halfwit. Look at charts from a thousand years ago.
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I’m gonna just downvote you anyways because I’m not actually interested in the truth and my self esteem sucks so I come online to talk down to people to feel smart
u/clamchowder probably
Definitely
I can't believe you got done typing that comment without thinking twice.
The answer is: “You’re not ready to hear the answer.”
Thanks for your useless troll post.
Hey, don’t look at me. That’s literally what they say.
That's litterally NOT what they say.
Fuck off, please. I won’t be gaslit by people who have nothing to add.
Lol, apparently you don't even know what gaslit means. Your statement is 100% incorrect from the clickbait article we are discussing. YOU do not understand what the article implies - that being 1.2 milliseconds rotational drift is what they are trying to study why. It has NOTHING to do with a new model, flat, pancake, or anything that stupid. It has to do with fluid dynamics and gravitational pull. Geesh. Arguing with you clowns is like arguing with a toddler.
Metagaslighting now, huh.
I don’t care. I’m not talking about the article.
I literally said this.
You’d be wrong.
They've been getting shorter, but the speed varies at different times.
Orbital mechanics. The Moon is slowly spiraling away from the Earth, slowing its rotation in the process. That’s why we add leap seconds every once in a while.
Yep. These things happen. The E+M+S system can be looked at as a 3-body problem for simplification, but you have to factor everything in when you’re getting atomic scale measurements.
Thanks for admitting I’m right. Fuck off, shill.
Since when does everyone with a degree in astrophysics suddenly become a NASA shill?
Since when do you think you know more than the people who spend countless hours studying, observing, making theories and then using empirical evidence to support or reject them?
Seriously, you spend all your 'research time' on conspiracy websites listening to other fuck wits, can claim to know MORE than the people who dedicate their lives to science?
You are an embarrassment to humanity and all the legitimate scientists who dedicate their lives to furthering our understanding of the cosmos.
All that while you jerk off to conspiracy porn in your mom's basement. Brilliant use of your life, half-wit.
Oh, please do tell us why you think the earth is flat.
Fucking liberals and flat earthers - all the same - 100% hypocrites who know shit.
To play devils advocate here for a second though, I've never met a liberal flat earther.
I never conjoined them did I? I said they are both hypocrites.
Flat earth "scientists"
They change the global clocks as if it does....so all internet clocks depend on it
I believe they use atomic clocks which measure the radioactive decay and then they time the number of atomic particles get emitted over the course of a year etc.
I guess the general assumption is that the atomic decay is very consistent and shouldn't deviate within our general lifespans and not over a year.
So you have a counter which spurts out radioactive decay at XYZ particles per year.
So one year it is XYZ + 10 and they say, ' looks like it's 10 spurts more this year to go around'
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How they measure the point of reference though is a good point....as that too would need to be tied to the exact moment the sun passes a point in space.
So you could have a good point, especially when they try to factor in relativity and quantum operations on that decay and reference point.
Length of days is depended on how fast the sun circles above our heads. Time is relative: for the sun to make one circle above our heads, the day is divided into 24 hours: One hour consist of 60 min, which holds 60 seconds: How long a second is, is based on how long it takes for the sun get back to the same place it is in the sky, one day later.
As the sun moves from the northern hemisphere to the southern hemisphere, the distance traveled for the sun in 24 hours increases, while the speed that the sun is circling above our heads also increases. Lots of variables, meaning counting microseconds (0.000001 seconds) is not going to be that accurate throughout the year.
Jesus also prophesised that our days was going to be shortened.
Revelation 8
12 And the fourth Angel sounded, and the thirde part of the Sunne was smitten, & the third part of the Moone, and the third part of the starres, so as the third part of them was darkened: and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.
After the sounding of the fourth trumpet, our days has been 1/3 times shorter. Probably happened about 4000 years after creation. Not only did they use to live longer than us, their days was also longer.
Open a dictionary and read what "hemisphere" means. You're a fucking twat.
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What a fucking clown you are. There is literally no one with an IQ above 60 that supports your drug fueled hypothesise.
Next time you are on an airplane, remember you are flying over a level surface. Language is what it is, globe deception is a part of the way we speak.
May God bless you in all your doings.
Remember, next time you look in the mirror say "I am an idiot"
Just because? So something which was in sync ...just stops.....why?
A larger solar system of solar systems is how i understand it as well. All revolving in their own systems. Do i believe it? It just sucks that we arent kool enough to know the truth. And i never claimed to know the truth either. All ive seen is motherfuckers trying to convince me one way or another. SHOW ME DEFINITIVE PROOF OR FILE IN THE SAME FILE AS CATTLE MUTILATIONS.
Like a galaxy of galaxies all circulating around one point. Like The Scrambler. You know that Fair ride?
Like this.
https://youtu.be/293amihqfZo
Remember the name of the channel? Id like to check it out if you do, and yeah, who fucking knows. Maybe its ALL bullshit and we are all in a single atom of a mosquitoes cock. Literally just as viable as any other theory and not nearly as hard to believe as some.
Tycho theory. But.
Circular star timelapse around polaris pivot point is pretty convincing for flat and motionless.
Someone must have been able to do timelapse in pre-camera times but once Camera Tech is widespread "they" would have known we'd figure it out....the same way non industrial peoples knew by staring at the sky all night..
There is only one model. All the others are fabricated by uneducated morons like you who can't spell and don't know what the fuck they are talking about.
No, dip shit, they are trying to figure out why the earth is spinning at different rates. The operative word is 'spinning' like a ball.
Did you source a self-proclaimed clairvoyant? Lol. yeah, OK. How much mileage did he get with his theory that everyone with a brain ignored? Idiot.
Ah yeah, our solar system rotates around WITHIN and is part of the milky way galaxy - geesh, you are one dull tool in the shed.
Troll Cluster strikes again
Yep. Liberals and low-IQ flat earthers only have one response because they are too stoopid to formulate an intelligent response.
This is why cancel culture exists. You are too much of a fuck wit to come up with a response, so you just cower in the corner and cry, mommy. You're a joke.
Yeah fuck wit, I did. They don't know why the earth is SPINNING at a different rate. And to be clear, they are arguing about 2.3 milliseconds. If that makes you get a hard-on go for it.