thought some might enjoy this interpretation of The Tower of Babel story: Nimrod v. Elohim
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Very interesting. Got anymore?
i'll dig around, but i think i've already posted my best
If you look at the main shill attacking you in this thread...all I have to say is that I think we found the Nimrod. :)
I made a post in reddit that attracted some shill attention and even got my user profile shutdown for ~20 minutes. Over half the users in the post's comments have never posted in that sub before. Looks like one of my minders followed me over here.
Lol
I think God made it purposely easy to have a laugh at the bad guys.
It's no different than Phil Leotardo from The Sopranos.
Fuck your fake conversation bullshit.
Shill dipshit.
i'll dig around, but i think i've already posted my best
Have you looked at the Curse of Canaan? I'm like 10 pages deep, and he covers that second screenshot from this post extensively. In fact I read a little further and he states "The importance of Nimrod in any study of the occult cannot be over-emphasized."
Right on! I really enjoyed the part about European aristocracy from 1200s-1700s!
Dude I just flitted ahead to that part...
And even though I saw about it in reading about the book before I started, I never realized that Venice and Phoenicia are so similar...
From the book, "The Canaanites, or Phoenicians, employed their command of various monopolies to gain control of the commerce of the entire Mediterranean area. Having established their bases along the shores of the Mediterranean, they found that the most centrally located headquarters for all of their operations was located on the Adriatic Sea. Here they founded the City of Venice (Phoenicia) in 466 A.D. Because of its unique location, and the dedication of the Canaanites to the pursuit of money and power, it soon became the command post of the commercial world.
My supermarket even sells "Caffe Venezia" coffee. Sounds pretty damn close to Phoenicia.
That book is a serious red pill!!
After reading about the seafaring Phoenicians I can’t help but think about the maritime admiralty law in which our court system here in the US operates. Makes you wonder…
Oh yeah, that's spot on.
Just like Bohemian Grove, likely a home away from home for them (very likely they scoured the West Coast before anyone else). But they have a lot, cause there's lots of islands.
Venice is a city of islands, no wonder they'd settle there.
When I read the book The Magus, I did a deep background read on the places in the book, and I'd wager the Greek islands were similarly controlled by the Phoenicians. Also explains the weirdness of Malta, Mafia in Silicy a lot of things.
Oh, and the antagonist in The Magus (Maurice Conchis) is quite similar to Aristotle Onassis and operates from a cruise ship from which he deploys occultic women to seduce men. All I'm saying is that you would expect that the world's largest shipping "magnate" would be Phoenician, or directly controlled by them, and would have some element of their occult religion.
Oh, and Onassis dated Maria Callas, who might be Marina Abramovic's mother.
Man, in Venice, there is only 500 Jews, and they STILL have an eruv (string around the city for Jews to "work"). Crazy.
Now you make me want to look into the old Atari game Phoenix.
He’s a fed that’s hate larping.
He will post filler shit to draw you in.
Then he’ll rotate to a set of themes.
He’s part of like 5-6 accounts here doing the exact same thing, along the same themes.
How long before you are banned? LOL
Oh, and why don't YOU post stuff if his stuff is so terrible?
We all know why. :)
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The Elohim of the Bible and other works are one and the same as Sitchin's Anunnaki. Yahweh of the Bible is the Anunnaki known as Enlil. Most surprisingly and most key, Nimrod and Satan of the Bible are the same entity, and also the same as the Anunnaki known as Marduk.
The information is essential to any understanding of these works and thus of historical events.
Yes, you got it exactly correct. If that's a thesis you choose to follow up on, I'd say what you should keep always present in mind is that these were real beings doing real things. I suggest that keeping this discipline will help clarify many issues. They weren't supernatural entities in some mystical struggle of cosmic whatever.
Which leads to the issue of symbolism. From my observation, almost everyone gets carried off into nonsense. The huge problem is that analysis of symbolism is very frequently unfalsifiable and--worse--those who analyze it don't even try to falsify their own analysis.
Take the current example and the text quoted from the Book of Jasher. My read of it is something like this: It looks like Nimrod was trying to trying to construct some kind of space travel facility because he and his crew had been marooned on Earth, and we don't fully understand all these strange details because the people that handed down the stories were themselves barely out of the Stone Age and did not understand it themselves, although they knew it was important and tried their best. (BTW, I would claim the story of the Tower would have been about 10,000 years old by the time it was written down.)
A more common analysis is something like, "Man had the hubris to challenge God with a tower that reached to Heaven and towers are penis symbols and God (who is a woman) by smashing the tower symbolically smote the patriarchy, and then symbolically...." Well, you get the picture.
So on the one hand we can look for more intersecting evidence and try better to understand the evidence we already have. On the other hand we can just keep lashing one thing to another, with no hope or even effort at refutation.
So if you're a fan of my kind of approach, let me know and I'll give you a tasty morsel about Nimrod, intersecting with what we have talked about here, that I have never seen anyone talk about.
Please divulge 👍
Your wish is granted!
So one claim I make is that Nimrod and Satan are one and the same. I'm not quite sure that it's stated concisely anywhere, but I think few doubt that Satan was the leader of the Fallen Angels. In the Book of Enoch, when the Fallen Angels were sent down to Earth they landed at Mount Hermon..
On the southwestern slope of Mt. Hermon are the ruins of an ancient megalithic fortress. The name of it? Nimrod Fortress.
Once we tentatively conclude that Satan was a real entity and that this was his residence for a time, another couple of pieces of anomalous evidence seem to slide into place.
This fortress is located at the northern end of the disputed Golan Heights. Israel seized the Golan in 1967 and has since then defied all loud international outcry over the theft. enduring lots of bad publicity, but they just hang on. In all that time, they have not developed it either militarily or economically with projects and settlers. What could be their point? Maybe there's more to Hermon than we know, and someone instructed them to hold on to it at any cost. Who could order such a thing? The guy at the top of the pyramid?
And you've heard that there was a War in Heaven, right? Well maybe some of it took place on Earth because the Nimrod Fortress is very heavily damaged with wreckage of scattered blocks in 3 areas. They claim it was done by some Crusaders, but I don't believe that for a second. Here's a description of the damage from a mainstream source, Characterization of the different masonry styles and their earthquake footprints at Qal’at al-Subayba:
I don't think Tomahawk missiles scatters 30 ton blocks around. Further, it's yet another site that, well, does not seem like humans with their technology of the time could have built:
It seems to me more like the site of a physical clash between two very powerful factions, and not the result of some spiritual struggle between Man and his inner nature or some such thing.
Tyvm for this. I'd love something leading the whole theory from beginning to end, just chewing up the lore and laying it out like a scroll. Or just like projector overlays on to pictures, showing a different perspective.
Or mb just a YouTube video
I can almost guarantee that you're not going to find what you're looking for. The reason I say that is because I've looked at the work of many researchers of these kinds of topics, and find that they either don't take it as far as I have or are heading off in the wrong direction, or both.
I also don't think anything is coming in the near future, because I frequently find pieces of evidence and think, "People way smarter and more knowledgeable than me have been studying these things for centuries or longer. In all that time, how have they never taken note of the importance of what I just found?" I'm still quite shocked at what's been missed that I found laying in plain sight.
I've thought about writing it up myself, but from my experience people are not open to it, and that goes double for people actually researching these topics. They grow attached to their ideas, and speculation is far easier than disciplined research. And what's probably worse, at a deep level, I think almost everyone finds the kind of things I have to say far too threatening to their worldview. Easiest just to reject it.
All that being said, I recommend to you the works of Lloyd Pye, Mauro Biglino, Michael Tellinger (his early work, as he's totally lost the plot lately) and of course, Zecharia Sitchin. Interesting note, though: I'm recommending Sitchin blindly as I've only ever read a couple of paragraphs of his many books. When I came to many, many of the same exact conclusions he did (as I understand them from secondary sources), well, that really sort of says something about the accuracy of the analysis, doesn't it?
Best of luck with your studies!
I'll do what I can to absorb what's available. Time is not by my side, and there are too many threads that I'm interested in pulling. Your abridged version was very enlightening, though, and I would be willing to read more of your contributions if I find them.
Exactly. And they will return.
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NASA is a Hebrew word. Means to lift up with force, arise.
Nimrods tower was a launch tower.
The Sumerian word shem means rocket.
The Sumerians wrote about the launch tower of Babel. The account originated with them, as well as the flood account.
To the Sumerians Noah was Ziusudra.
US Space Force.
The original purpose of NASA is to weaponize space.
Was in their website mission statement back in the early 0's.
King is part of their shill operation, just FYI.
Look at his posting patterns.
Not a genuine person. Supporting other accounts.
At this point everyone in this community is on to you.
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Throw that acronym around a lot.
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See? Anyone can do it too.
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This is a badly translated story if it indeed is what the post suggests. Perhaps. The remnants of the flood reestablished command and were beaten again by their gods. Knowledge lost, ability completely impaired. But God's then were mostly just mortals. Caesar type deities, worshipped. Until a single God, became immortal, or an Almighty, which was otherwise superhuman, and divine.
Why would you make just one tower? If indeed you're attacking the heavens? If you had the entire planet to launch from, you'd build multiple launch sites on the Planet, if you controlled all of it.
Every story is heaped in mythos. But what collapses civilization? In our present, the Internet being cut off, or electricity. We would reset by decades, and decades, descending into anarchy. Until control reestablishes itself. Then it was central command. You ruled the known planet from a city state, it was huge but hardly planetary. Suddenly your command or infrastructure has been damaged, a reset, occurs. What happens to fringe tribes, and surrounding cities, city states, as anarchy occurs, no central command, and the years past by, at war with each other, and without a god king ruler. Sooner are speaking differently and spreading out further against each other. No different to Alexander and his generals.
Or you can read Foundation for the Space Tower collapsing.
No such thing as free energy. Humans consume resources food and water and energy to survive like both animals and plants. Free energy would be spiritual. Possibly occult. Magical. It is fundamentally not electricity. Electricity requires moving parts and these require a plethora of resources to generate power from. So it fundamentally is not free. Let's suggest a car ran on some form of electromagnetism. The car still has to be built.
What was Babel, a paradigm for the collapse of civilization. How, they like to tell tales. Who knows. What they found of supposedly Babel, wasn't that impressive. But if what you describe existed in a past civilization it was quite unlikely Nimrod's. Although isn't Nimrod also Gilgamesh? This side of the flood would have far more evidence.
The paradigm of Babel is a common story, like imagine the lost children, these are a fictitious tribe, after a planetary extinction level event talking of TV, how the fudge would they describe it. If there is more to it, it has been lost over time. Reinvented into religion and assumed by a host of narratives and in those days they had the same authors and playwrights, without of course the TV. God's to them could've been just about anything. Like formerly projected.
However there are anomalies, least of all in the word of mouth translations changing over time. Huge anomalies where there are big questions about what occurred in our past. It has been largely scrubbed and another narrative inserted. The Summerians have quite the tales, like the rest of sanskrit. These extend into the heavens and the universe and talk of a lot stuff there are no comparable descriptions of. No descriptions at all.
But this side of the flood, dubiously there would be far more evidence and far more descriptions. Who knows. Did their gods really want such an epic reset they hammered the survivors again. Summerians caused the flood. They supposedly left the planet or some shit. But you're talking about alien invasion. Specifically in keeping this present species ignorant. Ignorant of them and their construct. But then why haven't they again today? Still ignorant? Or still not a threat?
Nuclear power stations have supposedly been found dating back billions of years ago. https://www.howandwhys.com/ancient-african-civilization-built-earths-first-nuclear-reactor-2-billion-years-ago/ .Except it's probably been debunked as natural geology. Like a lot of anomalies.
Nuclear power stations leave evidence like in that press, above, and it really doesn't tend to disappear after a few thousand years.
Gods...as in a pantheon. You are correct.
There is not a monotheistic God, but a plural of gods and demigods.
Yes, how did they come into fruition?
The Egyptian pharaohs were dieties. Didn't they faster bare worship by naming themselves various virtues becoming temples? Until monotheism replaced competing temples that were otherwise guilds? A solider wasn't a builder, a maiden wasn't a crone. Were Summerians, also dieties? Caesar Emperor but didn't he name himself after Mars. Like Greek mortals were granted status with the gods, birthed by gods, hereculus, achilles, theseus. Etc etc.
So with the Greeks writing our modern bible, a star shone when the king of kings was born, Jesus, having royal blood, according to Herod, trying to kill any competing claim. Replaced by the Holy Roman Emperor. Then the popery.
Meanwhile in Eastern religion you had the God Kings scared Emperors. Angkor Wat, the Golden City. Similar in MesoAmerica. Of course they also worshipped planets, stars, and animals. But were they named after those things, or did they name them?
What was God in this 4chan thread. If it was like the pantheon, it was a place often reached by mortals. Greeks of course wrote our modern Bible.
Summerians named our planets.
In any event. There was also acts of the divine but these were otherwise nature's wrath. Where the gods were angry, because a volcano erupted, or there was an Earthquake, where didn't Japanese have a god causing it, in the form of a giant catfish, they possibly even sacrificed to it. Like Minoans to the bull, minotaur. Of course the Greeks might have called this the Kraken, sent by posiedon. Etc.
Who knows who cares? But I doubt it was that thread's claims.
Although I am still trying to wrap my around evolution, because it's mostly bullshit.
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The story. Not quite, wish it were that simple. There are huge anomalies that simply cannot be explained. Least of all the complete construction behind the pyramids.
In fact there are garbled mentions of space ports, in Summerian, and in sanskrit. How did they write about Enoch and the Pleiades?
Not that simple, but it leaves it open for interpretation. Huge anomalies where history has had much larger lies.
Do I believe that 4chan shit no. After the flood setting up to counter attack the sky gods, then resetting again. No too many survivors. There'd be better records. Instead of the word of mouth that occurred as result of a diluvian reset. Like that film Mad Max is it 3, where the lost children had been told stories, of the time before, and then every generation the tales change slightly over time, becoming forgotten, until put back on paper.
There's also a much simpler explanation proven with the collapse of every civilization, once central command goes, you're left with peak collapse. Look at Angkor Wat, the Golden City, Aztecs, Rome, etc etc. Even today imagine electricity being disrupted, or the Internet switched off. Then it was even in that tale, city states. God's to them were their Emperors and God Kings, or the elements. Dead, and it's Alexander's generals. City state under earthquake, volcano. Again you have your warring generals and fringe tribes, refugees. On a planet uninhabited, after the flood, sooner becomes a bunch of new languages.
Worst today electronic shit lasts how long to the elements? A couple centuries. No power source. Discarded. Now imagine what those lost children would have to say about the time before?
But no I don't think there was a spaceport this side of our history? I don't discount an advanced race in our predulivan past. How advanced hard too say. Except they were more advanced then what evolution claims of that period. Evolution has to come up with origin. But there are glaring anomalies. I believe as a species we're quite invasive. But that doesn't mean they were launching rockets a few thousand years ago at all. The sanskrit has changed over time. Who knows what it means? Nobody does. It was written then, it isn't us today. They can only guess and invent more monkeys.
The conversation is what’s fake.
Fake fake fake astroturfed BULLSHIT.
You’re literally fooling no one and your existence is completely pointless.
Can you speak like a human?
My existence is pointless. No yours is more so. I can debate a point of reason. You're just a dumb cunt. You're not debating a point. Because you're dumb.
You're literally a neanderthal. Lost the ability to speak properly. Where as previous the Internet is our Babel. Please God, turn it off. Hell you'd reset, look, because your some dumb cunt with rocks and sticks, talking in a language only you understand, trying to attack somebody else because they didn't buy a 4chan thread. Better onk at them. Dumbass, monkey. Read that name you wrote. It's also a dumber troll.
I call it a knuckle dragger
You are bad at larping.
You’re trying too hard to seem like a rambling schizo boomer.
It doesn’t come off as authentic. It’s obvious theatre, and low quality at that.
What does that mean? Seriously you're stringing random words together that mean bullshit. It's like talking to a neanderthal. You've monkeyed up the English language completely. It didn't need monkeying by dumb millennials. And all you're doing away from the topic is attacking the user. Because you're dumb, and you don't understand it.
Come off. No, come across. I am not coming off anything. Dumbass. Authentic is the biggest word you've used. It's because you're probably foreign, wearing knock offs. And don't understand it, in the midst of all your bullshit. Because you're not genuine. You don't debate the topic. At what point have you used context. None asshole. Where all you've done is take a great big shit on the English language.
Anywhere else they'd lynch you. Seriously go say that shit to a Russian. They'd string you up, chopping your nuts off, and make you eat them. Chinese would rip your tongue out and shove it up your ass. At what fucking point have we tolerated the likes of you? No seriously, you need to be slapped stupid. You're that fucking dumb, crapping all over my language. You don't make any sense, because you're retarded. Autistic. Go back to your larping whatever that means, and it probably means shoving your tongue up a monkey's ass and eating shit.
No, I am not rude after the third time of your incoherent crap. Where you refuse to add conversation. Refuse to debate this topic. I gave you a chance. All you're doing is taking a crap, everywhere.
Should change their user name to Kamala. Just as good at word salads as Kamala.
I need some of what he's on whether or not he's right.
He’s a shill. This whole post is being astroturfed.
You are a shill. I can see right through you. So much of your time is devoted to calling everyone else a shill. Who are they shilling for? Who might I be shilling for? I'm an average kid with a focus problem so I spend all the time I can learning. How many times until you get banned I wonder? Unless you are a Mod alt. Which would make sense. This place is basically run by pedo demon jew Mods because axolotl wasn't quite dedicated enough to ensure competence and truthfulness.
Read Book of Enoch
There is some pretty terrible reading comprehension going on here.
Glow is a shill, most the dialogue here is amongst his own alts.
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You are out of balance. Take your ADHD meds for fucks sake!