thought some might enjoy this interpretation of The Tower of Babel story: Nimrod v. Elohim
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Yes, you got it exactly correct. If that's a thesis you choose to follow up on, I'd say what you should keep always present in mind is that these were real beings doing real things. I suggest that keeping this discipline will help clarify many issues. They weren't supernatural entities in some mystical struggle of cosmic whatever.
Which leads to the issue of symbolism. From my observation, almost everyone gets carried off into nonsense. The huge problem is that analysis of symbolism is very frequently unfalsifiable and--worse--those who analyze it don't even try to falsify their own analysis.
Take the current example and the text quoted from the Book of Jasher. My read of it is something like this: It looks like Nimrod was trying to trying to construct some kind of space travel facility because he and his crew had been marooned on Earth, and we don't fully understand all these strange details because the people that handed down the stories were themselves barely out of the Stone Age and did not understand it themselves, although they knew it was important and tried their best. (BTW, I would claim the story of the Tower would have been about 10,000 years old by the time it was written down.)
A more common analysis is something like, "Man had the hubris to challenge God with a tower that reached to Heaven and towers are penis symbols and God (who is a woman) by smashing the tower symbolically smote the patriarchy, and then symbolically...." Well, you get the picture.
So on the one hand we can look for more intersecting evidence and try better to understand the evidence we already have. On the other hand we can just keep lashing one thing to another, with no hope or even effort at refutation.
So if you're a fan of my kind of approach, let me know and I'll give you a tasty morsel about Nimrod, intersecting with what we have talked about here, that I have never seen anyone talk about.
Please divulge 👍
Your wish is granted!
So one claim I make is that Nimrod and Satan are one and the same. I'm not quite sure that it's stated concisely anywhere, but I think few doubt that Satan was the leader of the Fallen Angels. In the Book of Enoch, when the Fallen Angels were sent down to Earth they landed at Mount Hermon..
On the southwestern slope of Mt. Hermon are the ruins of an ancient megalithic fortress. The name of it? Nimrod Fortress.
Once we tentatively conclude that Satan was a real entity and that this was his residence for a time, another couple of pieces of anomalous evidence seem to slide into place.
This fortress is located at the northern end of the disputed Golan Heights. Israel seized the Golan in 1967 and has since then defied all loud international outcry over the theft. enduring lots of bad publicity, but they just hang on. In all that time, they have not developed it either militarily or economically with projects and settlers. What could be their point? Maybe there's more to Hermon than we know, and someone instructed them to hold on to it at any cost. Who could order such a thing? The guy at the top of the pyramid?
And you've heard that there was a War in Heaven, right? Well maybe some of it took place on Earth because the Nimrod Fortress is very heavily damaged with wreckage of scattered blocks in 3 areas. They claim it was done by some Crusaders, but I don't believe that for a second. Here's a description of the damage from a mainstream source, Characterization of the different masonry styles and their earthquake footprints at Qal’at al-Subayba:
I don't think Tomahawk missiles scatters 30 ton blocks around. Further, it's yet another site that, well, does not seem like humans with their technology of the time could have built:
It seems to me more like the site of a physical clash between two very powerful factions, and not the result of some spiritual struggle between Man and his inner nature or some such thing.
Tyvm for this. I'd love something leading the whole theory from beginning to end, just chewing up the lore and laying it out like a scroll. Or just like projector overlays on to pictures, showing a different perspective.
Or mb just a YouTube video
I can almost guarantee that you're not going to find what you're looking for. The reason I say that is because I've looked at the work of many researchers of these kinds of topics, and find that they either don't take it as far as I have or are heading off in the wrong direction, or both.
I also don't think anything is coming in the near future, because I frequently find pieces of evidence and think, "People way smarter and more knowledgeable than me have been studying these things for centuries or longer. In all that time, how have they never taken note of the importance of what I just found?" I'm still quite shocked at what's been missed that I found laying in plain sight.
I've thought about writing it up myself, but from my experience people are not open to it, and that goes double for people actually researching these topics. They grow attached to their ideas, and speculation is far easier than disciplined research. And what's probably worse, at a deep level, I think almost everyone finds the kind of things I have to say far too threatening to their worldview. Easiest just to reject it.
All that being said, I recommend to you the works of Lloyd Pye, Mauro Biglino, Michael Tellinger (his early work, as he's totally lost the plot lately) and of course, Zecharia Sitchin. Interesting note, though: I'm recommending Sitchin blindly as I've only ever read a couple of paragraphs of his many books. When I came to many, many of the same exact conclusions he did (as I understand them from secondary sources), well, that really sort of says something about the accuracy of the analysis, doesn't it?
Best of luck with your studies!