What is their actual audience, supposedly? Like, we know it's a funny nose guy doing what they do, maybe for a payoff somewhere, but aren't companies supposed to at least pretend they want to have customers?
True, but I was talking about PR cover. To some extent, also reasoning - DDG has legit competitors (Yandex and Brave Search), so just nuking the company and sending its users to less-controlled sites seems like poor strategy.
Lycos was already a rebranded Bing/Google before that.
Three companies have actual spiders and any dB worth something: google, microsoft (bing), baidu and Yandex.
Everybody else is a rebrand, reshuffle, even the small ones who have recently started running their own small indexes mixed into the main google/bing/yandex results they rebrand.
This is a scale /money issue.
Basically IT Fortune Top 5 in the world would have money and scale to compete in this place, but Google practically owns the search space.
This has been the state of affairs for 10+ years or so.
It's getting to the point where only one censorship on a known subject could still be a good option LOL! WHat they lack can be found on Yandex at least.
startpage.com to my knowledge simply queries google.
Their main advantage years ago is it was a way to have anonymized queries without being profiled by Google.
Unfortunately Startpage.com was sold off a few years ago to "System1' an ad company business with a shady history and now it's probably no better than Google's data-mining
So apparently swisscows is basically bing plus privacy protections and minus the porn. Not sure on the other two. I do remember some peeps had beefs about presearch but I dont' remember the details.
What is their actual audience, supposedly? Like, we know it's a funny nose guy doing what they do, maybe for a payoff somewhere, but aren't companies supposed to at least pretend they want to have customers?
ESG score from blackrock. Blackrock has basically unlimited supply of tax money. Main investor in every company.
They don't need our money, they get it anyway.
True, but I was talking about PR cover. To some extent, also reasoning - DDG has legit competitors (Yandex and Brave Search), so just nuking the company and sending its users to less-controlled sites seems like poor strategy.
They don't mention that in their ads on radio (not sure if they do TV ads). Pretty much mention security and privacy and nothing else.
So people that want that get it. Yes it's more private than Google. Otherwise it's exactly the same.
Target advertising
I really wanted to like Brave but their crawl is so limited..
Not tax money, money printed at the fed that was used to illegally buy their bonds during the COVID market downturn
I might run that alongside Newpipe. Thank you.
https://newpipe.net
ublock Origin still does
Brave still does
Youtube-enchancer extension still does
There've been red flags for DDG for a couple of years
Lycos was already a rebranded Bing/Google before that.
Three companies have actual spiders and any dB worth something: google, microsoft (bing), baidu and Yandex.
Everybody else is a rebrand, reshuffle, even the small ones who have recently started running their own small indexes mixed into the main google/bing/yandex results they rebrand.
This is a scale /money issue.
Basically IT Fortune Top 5 in the world would have money and scale to compete in this place, but Google practically owns the search space.
This has been the state of affairs for 10+ years or so.
“Resluts”. Pretty much.
It might be related to ESG score. It's a pretty extreme turn around alright.
so what's the latest search engine that doesn't censor?
using metasearch engine searx.me but it just aggregates the censored search engines.
https://www.ecosia.org/ has been my favorite since DDG went wrong.
its an innocent/honest operation until some suit-fucks write a check.
for now and forever, in perpetuity.
qwant.com is untainted... for now. imho.
u w0t?
It's getting to the point where only one censorship on a known subject could still be a good option LOL! WHat they lack can be found on Yandex at least.
Startpage.com
Alwyas been better than the duck.
startpage.com to my knowledge simply queries google.
Their main advantage years ago is it was a way to have anonymized queries without being profiled by Google.
Unfortunately Startpage.com was sold off a few years ago to "System1' an ad company business with a shady history and now it's probably no better than Google's data-mining
https://web.archive.org/web/20191113094509/https://blog.privacytools.io/delisting-startpage/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Startpage.com#Merger_and_recent_history
Thanx for the info, seems like there are not really good solutions right now.
Swisscows?
Apparently that uses mostly Bing algorithms but with more privacy and no porn. IDK if it's good but it might be less bad?
Where does DDG's CEO go to church, again? Chances are that it was a honeypot all along.
So apparently swisscows is basically bing plus privacy protections and minus the porn. Not sure on the other two. I do remember some peeps had beefs about presearch but I dont' remember the details.
DDG is Bill Gates (Microsoft)-- always has been
Fuck it I am just gonna start asking Jeeves again
Firefox deal is coming up for renewal.
Lynx
There have been cases where I've found things suppressed by Google using DuckDuckGo searches, but not for a some time now.
Such a shame