Honestly I don't think they (the demiurge) "needs" our energy for anything. I think they are just straight up choosing to be evil for evils sake. They like it. They are already infinitely powerful, having access infinite intelligence. But we are infinitely powerful as well. They (the demiurge) can't kill us, so the only way for them deal with any "threat" , anything that would make it act in a more positive direction, would be to contain that which would make you more positive. The only way to contain something infinitely powerful (you and I) is for it (us) to willingly choose to be contained.
Thus the reincarnation trap.
Now the trick is for us to fully "realize" that we are infinitely powerful. How one should go about doing that, I don't know. I've heard "ego death" but thats basically the death of your unique personality, which seems like a bullshit "solution" to me.
in order to ascend you need to destroy all of this unique personality you've built up through the infinite reincarnations you've done!!1!!!111!!
If reality were truly a school for learning like some think / say, then the memory wipe upon birth makes literally 0 sense.
The only harmony I can think of between the school of learning and the prison planet theories is that it really is a prison planet, but the point of it is to escape the trap and not trust anyone, including the spirit guides, upon their word or even action.
I still think that allowing this evil to exist is in itself, evil. Tolerance of evil is evil, you know?
I really just want a nice long vacation right now.
Cold, dark, lost. Imagine hypothermia, freezing, getting colder and colder, seeing the light fade, flickering into nothing but just cold darkness. You would escape back to the light, warmth, your life, the memories of those you cherish.
Then as if by some divine comedy, you're still stuck in a purgatory, it is full of those memories replayed, shaping around you, but they're never the same, just another nightmare of what was lost. Because when you wake back up you're haunted by your mind and it is in some other hell.
Seriously the mind remains functioning after death. Didn't they just zap a mammoth's brain and get the activity of it never forgot.
There's always another side too any of it.
Horrible watching that light go out. The loosh. There and bam. Trapped. You see that brief light with those motor functions, functioning like a chicken without a head, and then it stops dead cold. Except that brain is still ticking, trapped unaware, last thoughts and dreams, as the eyes go black as coals permentantly staring into blank space, while the blood clots cold.
We've created entire fairytales surrounding it. The energy persists. It can never die. Until we experience those memories, that loss, they still persist, but does it still find a way across time and space manifesting in the whispering wind?
So heres my issue with the gnostic theory.. it makes sense in many ways especially now. But.. why dont the proponents of it just kill themselves right now so they can end all this bullshit and fly around in their custom space heaven or whatever?
Question flow to form (inception); form within flow (life); form to flow (death) from the perspective of being the sinus curve (temporary form) within the base line (ongoing flow)?
How would one opt out; while being within (form within flow). How does the processed opt out of being processed? What would you evaluate higher...reincarnation after death or self sustenance of life?
being persuaded to come back
a) can one perceive this persuading choice above ones own free will of choice or was it suggested by the choice of others aka "in the name of" (in nomine)?
b) if choice represents the response to balance; then choice represents the center of balance; which is required for balancing. Any other position within balance would imply imbalance; hence corrupting choice. Where does the "persuading" other choice come into such a system? How can choice at the center of balance have another's choice above it?
having to repay negative karmic debts
If flow causes momentum as the balance for the responding choice of form within; then all formed existence exists within a balance based system; which implies that every imbalance is temporarily shaped within balance; hence in ignorance of balance.
Who is one gonna repay for the imbalance caused while ignoring balance? Doesn't causing imbalance imply having to exist within the consequences thereof?
Furthermore; KARMA; (Sanskrit) - "action, work" implies flow (action) to form (reaction) aka flow/form as the internal power of EN'ERGY, noun [Greek; work.] - "internal or inherent power".
The parasitic few utilize sleight of hands (notices of liability); not for afterlife karmic alleviation, but as on the fly re-balance; while simultaneously using suggestion of imbalance towards the ignorant many.
a soul contract
The soul; spirit (Latin spiro - "to breathe") contract represents the natural bond of balance (perceivable offer) to choice (response to perceived). Adaptation represents ONEs sole contract within ALL.
our personality
Per (by) + Sonos (sound) + -ality (choice (consent) to choice (suggestion) contract law; in ignorance of balance (offer) to choice (response) natural law).
Ones consent to the suggested -ality is what corrupts ones comprehension of a) being by (per) sound (sonos) aka person and b) being within (in) sound (sanus) aka insane.
"our" represents the claim upon that which is offered (flow) to those within (form) aka the choice to ignore need (response-ability) for want (temptation). This is also what tempts the parasitic few to exploit ignorance by suggestion of more temptations.
Hilarious meme. However, upon escaping Plato's cave, you are supposed to see, according to the allegory as explained by Plato, is that you see the "logos".
The only true knowledge is the logos, the existence of forms. The Theory of Forms or Theory of Ideas is Plato's argument that non-physical forms represent the most accurate reality. Those forms are the reality that we only dimly perceptive as shadows on the wall of a cave.
Bible prophecy is coming true, (e.g. rebirth of Israel, coming rebirth of globalist one world government), and prayers are being answered, people being healed, personal prophecies being fulfilled etc. This is enough for me to believe.
Thank you. I didn't mean to be one of those "please Google this for me" people but you know how half the results are "debunked conspiracy theory only crazy people believe" (so tiring)
Yeah, it's getting harder and harder. Google hides everything and duck duck can't find what you're looking for. They're also filling up the first page with "fact check" articles just like Google.
That part about the demiurge looking like an aborted fetus reminded me of Voldemort in one of the earlier movies, after he was kicked out of the professor's body but hadn't reached full potential -soft disclosure? Also Newearth touched on these entities in a video once https://youtu.be/m_Qthy_p0nc
Reading the parasite pill now, it's so good. Somehow missed that on old Voat
i already know of it, and have knowledge many things we cannot even comprehend, exist beyond these realms. just the THOUGHT of that, even having it once, shows that i cannot be taken and chained. I will be a free spirit
Demi (half) + Urge (want) implies the full need/want balance for the responding free will of choice. Demiurge represents an allegory for temptation (want over need).
you're here forever
"forever" represents the ONEness (energy) of ALL (flow/form).
"here" represents the momentum of flow for the form within.
"you are" represents being temporary form within the momentum of ongoing flow.
Infinite cannot be experienced by finite existence within; finite (form) needs to grow self within the infinite offer (flow).
Honestly I don't think they (the demiurge) "needs" our energy for anything. I think they are just straight up choosing to be evil for evils sake. They like it. They are already infinitely powerful, having access infinite intelligence. But we are infinitely powerful as well. They (the demiurge) can't kill us, so the only way for them deal with any "threat" , anything that would make it act in a more positive direction, would be to contain that which would make you more positive. The only way to contain something infinitely powerful (you and I) is for it (us) to willingly choose to be contained.
Thus the reincarnation trap.
Now the trick is for us to fully "realize" that we are infinitely powerful. How one should go about doing that, I don't know. I've heard "ego death" but thats basically the death of your unique personality, which seems like a bullshit "solution" to me.
I just don't buy that.
If reality were truly a school for learning like some think / say, then the memory wipe upon birth makes literally 0 sense.
The only harmony I can think of between the school of learning and the prison planet theories is that it really is a prison planet, but the point of it is to escape the trap and not trust anyone, including the spirit guides, upon their word or even action.
I still think that allowing this evil to exist is in itself, evil. Tolerance of evil is evil, you know?
I really just want a nice long vacation right now.
theres an account in this video of a woman who basically tells the light beings to get fucked, and gets sent to somewhere like that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmXlMUJFTlc
The light shit is bullshit. Santa fantasies.
Cold, dark, lost. Imagine hypothermia, freezing, getting colder and colder, seeing the light fade, flickering into nothing but just cold darkness. You would escape back to the light, warmth, your life, the memories of those you cherish.
Then as if by some divine comedy, you're still stuck in a purgatory, it is full of those memories replayed, shaping around you, but they're never the same, just another nightmare of what was lost. Because when you wake back up you're haunted by your mind and it is in some other hell.
Seriously the mind remains functioning after death. Didn't they just zap a mammoth's brain and get the activity of it never forgot.
There's always another side too any of it.
Horrible watching that light go out. The loosh. There and bam. Trapped. You see that brief light with those motor functions, functioning like a chicken without a head, and then it stops dead cold. Except that brain is still ticking, trapped unaware, last thoughts and dreams, as the eyes go black as coals permentantly staring into blank space, while the blood clots cold.
We've created entire fairytales surrounding it. The energy persists. It can never die. Until we experience those memories, that loss, they still persist, but does it still find a way across time and space manifesting in the whispering wind?
Whoops strayed into a bad topic.
Sounds like you’ve never looked into near death experiences.
So heres my issue with the gnostic theory.. it makes sense in many ways especially now. But.. why dont the proponents of it just kill themselves right now so they can end all this bullshit and fly around in their custom space heaven or whatever?
Havent seen anyone touch on that plot hole.
Question flow to form (inception); form within flow (life); form to flow (death) from the perspective of being the sinus curve (temporary form) within the base line (ongoing flow)?
How would one opt out; while being within (form within flow). How does the processed opt out of being processed? What would you evaluate higher...reincarnation after death or self sustenance of life?
a) can one perceive this persuading choice above ones own free will of choice or was it suggested by the choice of others aka "in the name of" (in nomine)?
b) if choice represents the response to balance; then choice represents the center of balance; which is required for balancing. Any other position within balance would imply imbalance; hence corrupting choice. Where does the "persuading" other choice come into such a system? How can choice at the center of balance have another's choice above it?
If flow causes momentum as the balance for the responding choice of form within; then all formed existence exists within a balance based system; which implies that every imbalance is temporarily shaped within balance; hence in ignorance of balance.
Who is one gonna repay for the imbalance caused while ignoring balance? Doesn't causing imbalance imply having to exist within the consequences thereof?
Furthermore; KARMA; (Sanskrit) - "action, work" implies flow (action) to form (reaction) aka flow/form as the internal power of EN'ERGY, noun [Greek; work.] - "internal or inherent power".
The parasitic few utilize sleight of hands (notices of liability); not for afterlife karmic alleviation, but as on the fly re-balance; while simultaneously using suggestion of imbalance towards the ignorant many.
The soul; spirit (Latin spiro - "to breathe") contract represents the natural bond of balance (perceivable offer) to choice (response to perceived). Adaptation represents ONEs sole contract within ALL.
Per (by) + Sonos (sound) + -ality (choice (consent) to choice (suggestion) contract law; in ignorance of balance (offer) to choice (response) natural law).
Ones consent to the suggested -ality is what corrupts ones comprehension of a) being by (per) sound (sonos) aka person and b) being within (in) sound (sanus) aka insane.
"our" represents the claim upon that which is offered (flow) to those within (form) aka the choice to ignore need (response-ability) for want (temptation). This is also what tempts the parasitic few to exploit ignorance by suggestion of more temptations.
Or, you can eat a dick, Freemason.
Hilarious meme. However, upon escaping Plato's cave, you are supposed to see, according to the allegory as explained by Plato, is that you see the "logos".
The only true knowledge is the logos, the existence of forms. The Theory of Forms or Theory of Ideas is Plato's argument that non-physical forms represent the most accurate reality. Those forms are the reality that we only dimly perceptive as shadows on the wall of a cave.
I honestly have never thought about it that way, but it does make a certain kind of sense if you do.
Weird. I've been thinking a lot about this lately, it seems like others have too.
This is one strange coincidence.
Reddit is all but dead but r/escapingprisonplanet has blown up in the last year, if you're interested in this topic.
Might check it out, thanks!
"It is appointed once to man to die and then to face judgment...", Hebrews 9:27.
The only way out of judgment and death is to put your faith in Jesus Christ, that he died for your sins and then rose again.
This demiurge stuff is just more teachings from demons.
Bible prophecy is coming true, (e.g. rebirth of Israel, coming rebirth of globalist one world government), and prayers are being answered, people being healed, personal prophecies being fulfilled etc. This is enough for me to believe.
I've seen "demiurge" pop up the last week, is there a good place I can read a primer on it and get caught up to speed?
Thank you. I didn't mean to be one of those "please Google this for me" people but you know how half the results are "debunked conspiracy theory only crazy people believe" (so tiring)
I hate people who when you ask them for info on shit like this say that. It can be hard to just Google some of the wild shit we read here.
Yeah, it's getting harder and harder. Google hides everything and duck duck can't find what you're looking for. They're also filling up the first page with "fact check" articles just like Google.
That part about the demiurge looking like an aborted fetus reminded me of Voldemort in one of the earlier movies, after he was kicked out of the professor's body but hadn't reached full potential -soft disclosure? Also Newearth touched on these entities in a video once https://youtu.be/m_Qthy_p0nc
Reading the parasite pill now, it's so good. Somehow missed that on old Voat
oh shit I never linked the parasite pill to the demiurge, interesting.
also
fuck now I really need a vacation
Right. Doesn't help that theres not enough time in the day to do everything you want to. If I didn't have to slave away every day it'd be fine.
i already know of it, and have knowledge many things we cannot even comprehend, exist beyond these realms. just the THOUGHT of that, even having it once, shows that i cannot be taken and chained. I will be a free spirit
er'body want to leave this shithole world forever but ain't nobody want to go to the mountains, meditate for years and fast to death
Demi (half) + Urge (want) implies the full need/want balance for the responding free will of choice. Demiurge represents an allegory for temptation (want over need).
"forever" represents the ONEness (energy) of ALL (flow/form).
"here" represents the momentum of flow for the form within.
"you are" represents being temporary form within the momentum of ongoing flow.
Infinite cannot be experienced by finite existence within; finite (form) needs to grow self within the infinite offer (flow).