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posted ago by zeppelincheetah ago by zeppelincheetah +78 / -1

Kyiv Kyiv Kyiv I see it everywhere, where the fuck did this come from? My whole life the spelling was always Kiev. I am in my late 30's and have always had an interest in both geography and history.

My guess is it is so when people google it they automatically get "approved sources" with the new spelling, and anything with the spelling I am more familiar with will be deemed old fashioned. I imagine this is not the first time they've tried something like this. Am I the only one that is driven mad by this sudden new spelling?

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Dorktron4Runner 26 points ago +26 / -0

No, it’s weird. It’s like an alternate reality Kiev.

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scormac1752 24 points ago +24 / -0

Oh, good, I'm not the only one that noticed.

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LesboPregnancyScare 23 points ago +23 / -0

there are jackasses on this site that claim "its always been spelled like that"

But no, you nailed it, normies will search for Kyiv and get newly curated sources rather than historical data on Kiev, lest they actually learn something..... like the CIA deposed of the democratically elected pro-Russia government in 2014 [thanks Obama] and installed a pro-west one instead, turned the country into the oligarchs playground, and staged NATO offensive weapons on Russia's border.

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Honeypot02 3 points ago +3 / -0

I think there’s always been multiple spellings, where the English spelling came from the Russian word, so to draw less historical comments to Ukraine and Russia they want to change its spelling

I get why they want to do it but the timing seems kind of scummy, like if you don’t agree it must be because you support invading sovereign nations

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LesboPregnancyScare 16 points ago +16 / -0

About 10 days ago all western media decided, on a whim of course, to start using Kyiv after decades of using Kiev. That is what I am talking about, not the history behind it.

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Artisan 1 point ago +1 / -0

Exactly. Nice little summary there on Ukraine to get people up to speed. I'm still trying to convince people the situation is more than just Russia is bad. NATO forced Russia into a position where they had no alternative but to invade. The U.S. and NATO refused any type of diplomacy with Russia. Now they are cutting off Russian banks. Yet Russian gas is still flowing to Europe. That tells you everything you need to know.

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no_ez 20 points ago +20 / -0

It’s a trap!

I’ve been onto this for years!

It actually looks like this: Київ

All countries use made up words for other countries. You can witness this yourselves when they call out the country in the country’s name and then hear the US English name during the Olympics opening ceremonies.

ITALIA! (Italy) NIPPON (Japan) DEUTSCHLAND (Germany)

Wanna see something really, really wild? Read an encyclopedia world book from the 60’s.

Muslims = Moslems Islam= Mohommadism

And so on, and so on. Serious 1984 retcon shit.

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KiloRomeo 17 points ago +17 / -0

Control language, control thought

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no_ez 13 points ago +13 / -0

🚨🚨wee woo wee woo🚨🚨

Thought Crime in Progress!

You have to eat bugs for two more weeks! Psychological Beatings Will continue until morality improves!

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ThePowerOfPrayer 2 points ago +2 / -0

And if you know these changes, it helps you find the old sources more easily.

I use https://swisscows.com , https://qwant.com , and https://yandex.com and rarely use Google anymore. I obtain much better search results.

Swiss Cows is great as long as your search terms don't contain swear words.

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no_ez 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thanks! I’ve been using duck duck go for two years now... any thoughts on that one?

I miss altavista and hotbot because i’m an oldfag.

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ThePowerOfPrayer 2 points ago +2 / -0

Duckduckgo seems to rely on Google and Bing results to generate much of its search results, which is why I use those other search engines.

From a privacy standpoint, it seems OK.

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no_ez 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thanks, tpop

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KiloRomeo 7 points ago +8 / -1

Yeah there was a post on this a few weeks ago where this was essentially the consensus then too.

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jc99ta 1 point ago +1 / -0

Very interesting thought

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Ep0ch 16 points ago +18 / -2

Kyiv Ukrainian, Kiev Russian.

I think they chose Kyiv after the former Soviet Block broke up, where it was formerly called chicken, no, I meant Kiev.

I think it became a narrative after the coup where it hit the sources and textbooks changing, perhaps now even drawing ire.

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jc99ta 3 points ago +3 / -0

Isn't it Cyrillic though? Wouldn't it be the same regardless?

Not well versed in this

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Ep0ch 0 points ago +1 / -1

Probably, but it doesn't taste like chicken. All it needs is garlic and butter sauce you damn Slavs. Not a typo.

No idea. But if they also start calling chicken kyvi I gonna have to sue the Chinese.

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Gnometard 2 points ago +6 / -4

Bruh, get out of here with the logic.

Somebody must have posed this question on facebook as a meme or text on a solid colored background, which made someone get sight tingles which means there is something nefarious going on. Trust the boomers, they got us here so their style behavior will definitely set us free

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Ep0ch 3 points ago +4 / -1

But I like the Chicken. I can't spell Kyvi.

No seriously. I gave you the history.

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Smokratez 2 points ago +2 / -0

jews are responsible for this, not boomers

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happy_nationalist 13 points ago +13 / -0

Also, it's pronounced Kee Ev, or Kee Iv not Keeve. Keeve sounds so stupid.

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patriot68 1 point ago +1 / -0

I feel like I'm intentionally being dumbed down every time I hear "Keev." It just grates on my ears.

In the west we like to stupidify Russian pronunciation. Just the other day I learned that Vladimir was properly pronounced Vlad-Yee-meer. Not Vlad-uh-meer.

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Artisan 1 point ago +1 / -0

Darn right!

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HikingPatriot 12 points ago +12 / -0

I've just intentionally continued spelling it Kiev because that's the way it's been my entire life which is longer than yours apparently.

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justicein2020 1 point ago +1 / -0

damm kids renaming countries.

and it's burma!

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HikingPatriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

and Bombay is Bombay

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justicein2020 1 point ago +1 / -0

wtf did that change too?

In 1995 Bombay officially became Mumbai.

damm really? i had no idea at all!

i wonder how many of the places i was forced to learn... no longer exist.
had to do a long ass report on burma once. like half your grade worth.

gone. not a country. well that was useful eductation?

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HikingPatriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

they have renamed a few places in India - something about decolonizing??? IOW, removing names the British gave to cities there when they were under the British monarchy.

Which makes me wonder how long before New England (in the states) gets renamed, or in my state there's Durham, which is also from the British. Raleigh is named after Sir Walter Raleigh, the British soldier that tried to establish a colony in Roanoke.

My guess is that once white people are truly a minority in the US the push will begin to start decolonizing. They already started by tearing down statues, next I guess maybe rename the states and cities.

We have progressed past the point of common sense and are now going backwards.

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wwvax 8 points ago +9 / -1

they changed the spelling and pronunciation after the 2014 coup as part of the derussification of ukraine

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Poiuytrew 6 points ago +8 / -2

The city's name is Київ in Ukranian, Киeв in Russian.

Kyiv and Kiev are just romanizations.

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ThePowerOfPrayer 2 points ago +2 / -0

Not the point of the post.

OP is aware of that. Rather, it's telling they change the spelling as a way to make it harder for smooth brains thinking about waking up from finding conflicting information to the current MSM narrative.

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Thisisnotanexit 6 points ago +6 / -0

I was half convinced i'd lost my mind hahaha

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Scutigera_coleoptrat 4 points ago +4 / -0

Saw this discussion in a group on another site. Here's an interesting backstory: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10543253/Why-Kyiv-instead-Kiev-government-dropped-Soviet-era-name.html

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Conspirologist 3 points ago +3 / -0

Kiev is Russian spelling. Kyiv is Ukrainian spelling.

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forinfren 3 points ago +3 / -0

Exactly. The new spelling - and the media pronouncing it like "Keev" instead of "Key-ev" like before - is the equivalent of declaring your pronouns on social media. It's yet another example of political correctness with no particular logic behind it. Also, we've always been at war with Eastasia, but that's neither here nor there.

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Drcm 1 point ago +1 / -0

Kyiv is recent de-russified spelling. Ukrainians used to spell it Kiev too but are not trying to make a point

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jc99ta 2 points ago +2 / -0

Kiev is what I've always seen. Thought it was some leftist idiocy like ISIL

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Zippitydoodah 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm also in my 30s and I had the exact same thought. It was always Kiev and I've studied geography a lot, too. That's a very good point about it being for search engines. Good eye.

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redkrab 2 points ago +2 / -0

yup same

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GrovPortion2 1 point ago +1 / -0

A fork in the timeline

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Ragnerok 1 point ago +2 / -1

It's not really that weird. If you're from an English speaking country, "Kiev" would be the correct spelling. "Kyiv" however is more close to how the Ukrainians pronounce it, so just consider it an upgrade. It's no different than maybe English speakers refers to the capital of my home country (Denmark) as "Copenhagen", whereas in reality, the name of it is "Kobenhavn", Brussels = Bruxelles etc.

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ThePowerOfPrayer 2 points ago +2 / -0

What would be weird is if Russia invaded Denmark and the MSM, in lockstep, changed the spelling from Copenhagen to Kobenhavn overnight.

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Ragnerok 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well, to me it wouldn't be weird, more kinda respectful. But I understand it from your point of view.

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ThePowerOfPrayer 1 point ago +1 / -0

The gesture of changing the spelling would be respectful to the Danish people, sure, but when every MSM outlet makes the spelling changes the exact same day, that only happens with coordination behind the scenes and usually with ulterior motives.

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IGOexiled 0 points ago +1 / -1

It's not sudden. They switched the packaging on frozen chicken dinners like 15 years ago. Chicken Kiev/Kyiv. Buttery and delicious, and a war omen. Putting "Support the USO" on Mello Yello labels leading up to this past US election was also an omen.

E: wrong

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IGOexiled 0 points ago +1 / -1

I was under the influence of the Mandela Effect. It is still Kiev on chicken dinners. Sorry.

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jubyeonin 0 points ago +1 / -1

I've seen both. Mostly Kyiv on the European side and Kiev everywhere else. The weird thing is how the left is saying it's Keev and changed the Wikipedia article. They did some hardcore vandalization and some of the editors changed it back but some admins came in and said Keev and Keeve are fine.

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Tugboatguy 0 points ago +1 / -1

Maybe it's one of the things that is now different but never changed..... aka...The Mandella Effect

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ThePowerOfPrayer 1 point ago +2 / -1

Why are you using Google to verify a memory hole situation created by Google and the MSM?

We know the official explanation. The entire point of this post is the spelling used by MSM outlets changed overnight, long after Ukraine's independence.

Pro-tip: Ukraine's been independent since 1991.