So I was discussing general conspiracy theories with someone and the subject of flat Earth came up. I'm not very knowledgeable on this so I didn't do a great job explaining why someone would think the Earth is flat.
Can anyone give me the main reason why flat Earthers believe what they believe? I gather it's an elite/resources thing to restrict the plebs from some amazing hidden area that is off limits. Something to do with Antarctica?
What are the top 5 reasons people can justify this claim with that haven't already been debunked? I tried to have a look myself but there is a whole lot of crazy out there on this subject.
There is no curvature. Any retard with a frozen lake and a lazer pointer can prove it. Everyone is so brainwashed by school and hollywood that can see the obvious right in front of them. Virtually every culture in history realized we are on a motionless plane with a rotating sky until galileo and nasa. Look up some emergency landings, always way off course, unless you look at the gleesons map, aka the UN logo. Earth does not curve 8” per mile squared and anyone can easily verify that but they dont.
oh, fuck here we go. The fuck wits and their unscientific, non-repeatable laser test ignoring ground effects and air density. Please tell us your grade level of education.
Check the globe believer and how he starts by insulting.
No
exglobers are stupid. No, retarded. Wait, beyond both of those... how about totally fucked 1/2 witted morons?
No, you live in a flat plane fantasy that cannot be supported by any peer-reviewed paper, discussion, experiment or empirical evidence. Not one piece. Nadda, ziltch.
Yeah, ok dip shit. You live in a YouTube-created bull shit conspiracy that does not exist.
Correct. At least you got something right.
My own eyes are playing tricks on me? Who knew?
Seriously, come back with something that is actually evidence and I will believe you fuck wits. Until then, go read some planetary science, physics or cosmology books, by scholars that are one fuck of a lot smarter than you.
Ha ha ha ha, what a fucking liberal fuck wit.
Ooo boy, I can hardly wait. When it gets published by a peer-reviewed process, let me know. Until then, kick rocks.
Why would I when you think everything is fake? To which I say, if nothing is real, kill yourself now.
Whatever. You think what you want, I really don't give a fuck.
You are a fuck wit. 'Earth rise' was taken from the space capsule high above the moon while in orbit. The size of the moon (or of Earth from the Moon) on a photo is determined by one thing only — the focal length of the lens, or rather, the ratio of focal length compared to the film size. This ratio determines the field of view.
Go read some books, moron.
Flat earth is an interesting one, because they do bring up some valid points and certain aspects of flat earth just can't be proven or disproven because to do so would need to travel into space and acrully see for yourself. According to the powers that be We have done this but we've also been lied to about damn near everthing so who even knows. Plus the moon landing being fake as fuck does lend credibility to some theories. My biggest deal with it all is that there are no models that have been agreed on. If your gonna say space is fake, I'll listen but come with compelling evidence. The flat earth community has no good models of how a flat earth would work and also don't have an explanations for things like comets or asteroids or eclipses.
Space travel doesn't exist. You are already disqualified from intelligent and/or scientific discussion, because you didn't figure this out on your own.
come on bra, its a hard hurdle to get past
True. Sorry.
From what I remember it's mainly
That's all I remember and there's prob more
why flat Earthers believe what they believe? ... wild imaginations
'just try to imagine' .. their best line
and its not censored, 'they' actually push this to be true ... so i mark it as a lie
Are you looking for someone to prove flat earth? Or looking for really weird earth stuff? I am not a flat earther by any stretch. But this place is messed up no doubt. I'd sooner argue this is a magical realm or a simulation than any earth shape.
Yeah. Proof of flat Earth. Well, what they think is proof anyway. The best arguments, evidence etc.
Those who made that claim is flat earth society, known controlled opposition, just like the globebusters. You are not going to get the truth in the top google search result, or from anyone promoting flat earth in the main steam media.
I cant help with flat earth, but here are a couple of thing that dont add up.
Ancient structure alignments. Continental drift alone should throw things off, much less hurtling through space. Maybe our assumed alignments are wrong but there are an awful lot of coincidences.
Rainbows. Each water particle refracts the light splitting them into each color of the visible light spectrum. Cool, but how does that reassemble into a gigantic cohesive rainbow? Shouldn't it be a bizillion multicolored sprinkles? How is it visible for miles at every location?
The Sun and Moon exactly 400 times smaller and 400 times closer for an exact size match. Plus the exact orbit to overlap. (and so much more)
Clouds maybe? Billions of gallons of water capable of dropping inches of rain over square miles of land. 8.8 pounds per gallon. How is that possible? Water weighs more than air. Dont know if anyone has weighed water vapor? Shouldn't the water move from high density to low density instead of grouping up in clouds in any case?
Speaking of density, boats float because they displace more weight in water than they weigh. We have between 1-2 square meters of skin. 1550 square inches per meter. At sea level air weighs 14.7 PSI. 14*1500 (to keep it round) 21,000. I dont know about you but I weight less than that. And thats just surface pressure exerted, not cubed. Lets look at it a different way to test it. Scuba diving, The deeper you go the more pressure exerted on you. The more you should float. Your displacing more weight. When you go deeper do you have to fight to go down? No you fight to not sink.
These are my observations and mental masturbations so I could be completely missing factors.
There are none, the earth is fucking round, just like every other celestial body for the same reason bubbles are not square or flat.
they actually believe the whooooole sky is a projection! the moon isn't REALLY round, and the other planets aren't round, the are just discs, and we are looking at them from the "top"
yes..they believe this
I am a Bible believing Christian, so I would say the sky is what we call heaven. There are at least three heavens.
As far as I have observed, the moon is a disc, I only seen one side of it. Could still be a ball, although who knows. The moon gives off its own light, as it is a light source. No rock I ever seen reflects light as brightly as the moon does, and the moon been very bright the last few years, common to see it out during daytime now.
Planets is what we call wandering stars, they are there to help us keep track of time. Try find a telescope and look to see what they look like for yourself.
Try reading a book about the heavens not written 2000 years ago.
tard
No idea what anyone would count as proof for anything. On top of my head I can say:
The sun always turns to the right, in a clockwise direction. No matter where you are on earth, or no matter what season of the year.
Venus can be seen in the middle of the night. During winter in the northern hemisphere.
Northstar remains stationary (in the same position) throughout the night.
Footage from amateur high altitude balloons show a level surface.
Water always finds its level, then remain level.
No empirical and objective proof that we live on anything other then a level and stationary surface exist.
Yeah, cause we're on a ball spinning away at night and towards at morning. Fuck, did you even pay attention at school?
WRONG!! You only see it at twilight and mornings, geesh.
Uh, yeah OK
Because it's directly above the north pole. So what?
No they fucking do NOT - 100% false
Water on a ball follows the curved surface because gravity pulls from all sides of the ball equally towards the middle. Just like ice on a frozen planet, or the shimmering colors of soap on a bubble.
You could not be more wrong. Absolutly low IQ stuff dude. Go research and learn facts, not some fuck wit on YouTube.
you're an inbred, shut up
just because our planet is fucked up because of the people in charge, doesnt mean it's flat or some other shape. lol
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a gyroscope proves Earth isn't spinning, or moving constantly even, and a water level tool proves all water on earth is level, which it couldn't be on a ball, globe or speroid. You are now a flurfer. You're welcome.
Could you describe your best guess of what Earth looks like?
Of course I can. Do you know how to ask a question normally and not like a jew?
Do you know how to answer a question without sounding like a cunt?
I do. You didn't answer my question. Guess who the cunt is?
I don't know why you're so triggered at the wording of my question. I know enough that there are different theories amongst those that don't believe the established belief of Earth as a spherical planet, space, stars etc. The average person would laugh directly in your face talking about this stuff. I'm trying to learn and that's how you answer...So yeah, you're still the cunt here fella.
Now, if you'd care to elaborate, I'm still interested in your thoughts.
Because you phrase it as to question my ability, instead of asking me to. Can you do this? As opposed to. Would you please? One is questioning if I am able to, while the other is requesting something respectfully. I hope that helps you understand.
That is only an established belief of the atheism religious cult. Most normal people don't believe they are spinning upside down on a ball.
No, they would not. I've spoken to thousands of people in person. You are basing your beliefs of jew tv, and other religious atheist cultists, which are a tiny minority of the world's population.
You should work on seeing you for what you are. You are insulting me, not trying to learn from me.
I am not. I am a wonderful, considerate and kind human being.
Wow...
Elevators can't work on globe earth.
QED
Hopefully.
Rogers Centre from 6ft above Lake Ontario 30.84 miles away
Round earth dude will give you all kinds of gobbledygook how that's a mirage.
Still at it eh Old man? Found anyone with an education above grade 7 to support you? Nope, didn't think so.
Folks, this fuck wit is so moronically stupid he can look at every planet and star, see that they are all round yet for some reason thinks Zoltar the magic space invader made his planet flat and his sun really small. lol.
Mr round earth, my friend. What a dipshit to come out and insult with such flame and whimper. Fuck off savman. Show a NASA pic fanboy.
No.
Listen folks to this ....
I rattle with this fuckwit a couple months ago, ask him for a picture of the earth that doesn't come from NASA. Simple resolution.
Sooo, mr bonehead sends me,...wait on it....a China pic!!! Yup, a lot of education running rampant in that empty head.
Fuck off again?
"this fuckwit"
Hey no fair, you're using my euphemisms.
You are now, know forever by all, as Fuckwit.
Long story short... it's all a thought experiment. A critical thinking game. Something to train and sharpen yourself for whatever reason you please and you can take it as far as you'd like, but you'll sooner or later you'll reach a point where you will ask why am I doing this? Just stay open and flow with the information, whether true or not, and test what you learn in order to unlock your true potential. I'm sure you'll all find that spirit(soul) is limitless, but the symbolism in which we use to convey this to others is not. And symbolism is anything and everything you can write, see, taste, smell, perceive, think, or do. Do not take my response as fact, go and test for yourself, however way you can, and build upon what you find to be true and then even test that. I guess one could call what I typed the wheel of samsara. I'll step off and leave it here. Have fun and enjoy the ride. :)
It seems nobody on this post really gave any solid answers or provided any resources for you.
Also, I'm not even sure if you are actually interested even.
Truth is it is flat. Whether or not you want to learn this truth is up to you. Can send you resources to get you on your way.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLimb_UpOKm97RBTHJ_ehaz2W-wNOnTkrl
That playlist is of flat earth facts, short video clips to get the gist of why people believe the earth is "flat".
Let me know how it sits with you..
they dont truly believe it. they are trolls that see how far they can push it before people get mad/call them out. if people get really mad at them? they actually get off on it BIG TIME. they are mentally not well.
if they get called out by facts? they dont have anything to come back with. and the stfu right then and there. its a game to them. they want to see how much they can get away with
I had assumed most of them were trolls but I can't help but feel they've scooped up some, less intelligent individuals along the way. Some of them go to pretty elaborate lengths with their experiments etc.
a) resist selling what one cannot own; resist wanting to own what others suggest they can sell. Why? Because as form (life) within flow (inception toward death); one cannot own anything; only use everything temporarily.
b) whatever others suggest; tempts one to want or not want to believe it. Question if consent to either want or not want any suggestion represents the ignorance of need? What if want represents the temptation to ignore need for form within flow?
The temptation to want or not want to consent to any suggestion (-isms); which in return causes the conflict of reason aka want versus not want. The few use suggestion (-isms) to cause division (reason) among the many; which allows them to control both sides of every conflict. After establishing the conflicts of reason; they suggest contradictions to both sides within to keep them reasoning against each other; which is called "talmudic reasoning".
As form within flow; ALL is offered to each ONEs perception (as needed inspiration). Ignoring this allows others to suggest wanted information, which those who consent to it then uphold as beliefs.
Nature does not withhold anything; it offers everything. Those who consent to others as the source of information; thereby give those others the power to hide the suggested information from those who ignore perceived inspiration.
From French élite "selection, choice". If the many ignore being the ONEs with the free will of choice; then the few become their "chosen ones", and the few suggest "elite" as constant reconfirmation about the ignorance towards free will of choice. So whenever one uses "elite"; one telegraphs to all with eyes to see that "I'm ignorant and let the few choose for me". It's a simple; rhetorical tool to keep tabs on state of domestication.
Does nature offer false information? If not...why does one try to debunk suggested information in ignorance of what nature offers (perceived inspiration)?