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posted ago by Coolgenner ago by Coolgenner +60 / -2

I was hoping they would not go this route, but they sent out an email saying vaccinated people do not need masks, and the dirty unvaccinated must wear masks. They expect us to use the honor system, but there is an abuse hotline set up to report people not wearing the yellow star, oops I mean mask If you don’t have the right papers. They insisted they have the right to ask for proof. I guess I should learn how to fake the vaccine card officially now. I’m just grateful I live in Florida and the majority of the folks are over the mask and probably won’t report me, but we’re nationwide company and there’s a lot of mask Nazis out there.

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MiyamotoHolliday 19 points ago +20 / -1

HIPAA says they cant ask for proof. Talk to HR, be sure to use the words "liability" and "potential lawsuits" a lot.

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Athena86 6 points ago +7 / -1

HIPPA isn’t about employers. It’s only for doctors stating they won’t share your medical history with others without your attention.

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MiyamotoHolliday 11 points ago +11 / -0

Im not a doctor, I have to follow HIPPA and I can get in big time trouble if I let PII leak. PII is confidential and the property of the patient. Without a release, without your consent, no one can see it.

If you ask an employee if they have been seen for substance abuse and they say no, you can't then demand proof. When I tell my boss I have a doctors appointment, they never ask what for, because I don't have to willingly give that information.

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MiyamotoHolliday 6 points ago +6 / -0

Replying to myself.

They can ask if you have been vaccinated. They cannot force you to share your PII with them. If anyone who is not certified to look at PII forces you to give them PII, sue them. If someone who is certified forces you to show that... stall, figure out some way to get the PII seen by someone whos not certified without you being the cause, then sue them.

My blue state governmental health agency I work for is not asking for proof for a reason.

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newuserfromreddit -1 points ago +1 / -2

Yeah, they can. They can also generally fire you if you refuse to answer.

Your healthcare employer is not asking for it because they’re a covered entity. If you don’t work in healthcare, you’re not a covered entity.

PII also literally includes things like your date of birth. The upshot of your argument is that an employer violates federal law by requiring an employee to give their birthday lol.

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newuserfromreddit -2 points ago +2 / -4

That’s not even remotely how HIPAA works.

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MiyamotoHolliday 3 points ago +3 / -0

Its a byproduct of all medical records being the private information of the patient. PII can only be shared with the patients consent.

When you ask a candidate if they have mental health issues, and they say no, you cant then demand their psychotherapy notes from them. They can ask, but they cannot demand you show them PII.

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newuserfromreddit -1 points ago +2 / -3

Look up covered entities when you get a chance. Unless you’re working in the health field, HIPAA almost certainly does not apply to your employer.

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MiyamotoHolliday 3 points ago +3 / -0

My blue state governmental health agency I work for is not asking for proof for a reason.

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nc777 13 points ago +13 / -0

Hope no one files false reports on the narc line.

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Coolgenner [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

Me too, smirk

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Coolgenner [S] 11 points ago +11 / -0

There’s a manager in a different division I really hate, so if the complaints are truly anonymous I think I’ll report him over and over just to fuck with the system and him.

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Harambe 11 points ago +11 / -0

It’s 2021, you identify as fully vaccinated. That should be plenty for them. They don’t believe in real science that follows the scientific method. Anything goes.

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Coolgenner [S] 9 points ago +9 / -0

Don’t be a trans phone, I’m trans vaxxed.

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dukey 10 points ago +10 / -0

Just identify as vaccinated

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TrumpCovid 6 points ago +6 / -0

Same at my job, wasn't vocal about my views cause fuck these people, so people just assume I am.

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Coolgenner [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Most of my team got the fauci ouchie, and half of them are based. I guess I’m the least pussy of the bunch. I’ll never get the jab. My ex-boss got the jab AND got the rona on her trip. Proof it doesn’t work anyways, so why risk it.

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Cheesemaker 6 points ago +6 / -0

Same, except my company is asking for proof to remove the mask. Same thing, same result.

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undecidedmask 4 points ago +4 / -0

Sucks. As soon as my state lifted restrictions on masks everyone just forgot about proof of vaccination in order to not wear masks. It's nice.

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Mad_King_Kalak 3 points ago +3 / -0

Hell, post the narc line number here! I'll call and report Steve in accounts receivable.

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ArriveViolently 3 points ago +3 / -0

THIS IS THE WAY.

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krzyzowiec 2 points ago +2 / -0

Just be grateful you aren’t in Europe. They have a whole digital system with signatures and certificates, so no faking vax cards for them.

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Coolgenner [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

Jesus Christ on a stick. The world has gone absolutely bonkers.

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nautica 3 points ago +3 / -0

Probably very easy to fake. I have read, that you need a QR code reader and writer software and a software to make your own public and private 56 bit key. Since your key is not fake, you can encode the fake information and when produce a QR code. And Switzerland is releasing an app, where you can test your selfmade QR code. Isn't that handy?

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krzyzowiec 2 points ago +2 / -0

Not easy to fake. They keep the private key they use to sign it themselves, and there is not just one key, any hospital or testing center has their own key.

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DefaultFreedom 2 points ago +2 / -0

Mask Not Sees.

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Coolgenner [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Clever

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Noone 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yep my company just posted this also. No masks for the vaccinated. Everyone without proof has to wear a mask. Doesn’t matter if you’ve already had Covid. So it’s not about the virus. It’s about forcing the jab. Wear your face diaper and Scarlett Letter!!!

I live in a red state. We’re totally open. No masks in grocery stores, post office or restaurants. Hell I went to the pharmacy last weekend. No masks anywhere in a place where sick people go every day of the year. But it’s also a right to work state. They can pretty much fire you for any reason. I believe others have said they will call the masks PPE and axe you for not wearing required PPE.

My job is basically covering for people on vacation or sick. I do all the jobs in the plant. I’ve covered for you guessed it… people with COVID and one’s that just wanted a week and a half off so said they might have been exposed and just wanted some free vacation while test results came back.

Now I have to update my resume. The guy who never missed a day of work during this. If their pushing this hard on a guy who’s in the over 99% chances of survival bracket I’m not taking shit. They can get fucked. I fear tho since there’s never any repercussions they will eventually make it so we can’t work anywhere.

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hootersmcboobies 2 points ago +2 / -0

I live in Florida

This is literally illegal due to DeSantis's executive order:

https://www.flgov.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/EO-21-81.pdf

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Coolgenner [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes and no, that’s for passports, and denying customers services. Nothing about employment.

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HaiQueue 2 points ago +2 / -0

My small non-profit elected to do the same. Just prior, they rolled out extra vacation time for the vaccinated if they would allow HR to get a photocopy of their vax card and keep it on file -- so they have a pretty good idea as to who is and who isn't.

Unvaccinated people will be required to wear masks at all times and will not be able to use some of the common areas, like the gym. Enforcement of masks was tight where I am and has since escalated. Snitch culture is rampant.

It's kind of incredible -- what was once a relatively decent place to work is now utterly miserable.

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Coolgenner [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

My god, that absolutely sucks. Not dying from the jab is worth skipping their gym. Fuck them.

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swifty123456 1 point ago +2 / -1

get a fake vacine card! simple as fucks

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hootersmcboobies 2 points ago +2 / -0

or don't be a pussy and exercise your human rights to medical privacy.

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Mad_King_Kalak 1 point ago +1 / -0

Flood the narc line so much, that it turns out to be useless, to many leads to follow. Borrow the cell phones of your friends to do so, and do it from home too.

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Vigilo 1 point ago +2 / -1

There’s no honor system where I work. Those that want to not wear a mask have to show proof by showing your vaccine card to HR, Safety or your manager. Screw them. I still wear a mask because I refuse to tell them anything.

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ArriveViolently 1 point ago +1 / -0

I now personally know 3... THREE people who have had a life-altering side effect since getting the vax, and all seem to have happened at the 10-20 day mark post-jab.

The first had a stroke caused by a blood clot in her brain. 68 years old, but with no major medical issues beforehand. She is nonverbal and can't walk now and will probably never recover... she spent 3 weeks in the hospital and rehab and she just stares into nothing. She is slowly recovering, but I don't think she will ever be the same. I see the look in here eyes, and it is of someone who wishes they had died instead. She took Pfizer.

The second was 31 years old and in extremely good health/fitness. He has to travel overseas for work so he took it, and had trouble breathing one night that got worse and worse. He finally went to the ER and they determined he had had a "mild" heart attack. He has never had any medical issues in his life. this guy was a hardcore road bike racer, and now he gets winded walking in his yard. He took J&J.

The third just happened last Friday. A co-workers daughter, who is in her early 20's is currently in ICU after having a massive stroke. I am heartbroken for him, as he tried to tell her not to get the vax, but she did anyway. I haven't heard an update today, but it does not look good. EDIT: I am not sure what she took, but it was her second shot that did it, so it was Pfizer or Moderna.

NO JOB IS WORTH YOUR LIFE.

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Coolgenner [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

One guy on my team was already out a month after his second jab. I’ll never get it.

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johnmic07 1 point ago +1 / -0

There are pdfs online of the card.

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Coolgenner [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I have them and card stock, I just need to figure out how to print it and find someone willing to fill it out. Or go to the pharmacy and pay them not to jab me but give me the card anyways.

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ArriveViolently 3 points ago +3 / -0

I have heard many reports of pharmacies filling out the card first, and then sending you over to get the shot. Maybe do a little recon and if you see this, just walk out after you get the card. Maybe act like you need to grab something from your car.

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johnmic07 1 point ago +1 / -0

Just use any printer and fill out our yourself.

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Coolgenner [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

I bought 3x4 card stock, I need to learn how to feed it into the printer.

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johnmic07 2 points ago +2 / -0

Get 8.5x11 card stock and then cut it down to size.