Yes, I've never hidden it. The Swamp Rangers org never had any intent to take over the forum. You missed my irony. No lies.
Yes, when you proposed modship I did for a day or two suggest I could do it until you remembered your past with me and bailed on me and I stopped promoting myself. The rest of this month it's been cleanup after you. But I accept your thanks for all the lying attacks I've been through.
Yes, the land Judea (Iudaea) was named after the Judahites. The Judahites had explicitly absorbed Levi and Benjamin, and implicitly absorbed some other tribes like Asher and Simeon. The "lost tribes", if they continued to exist, migrated from Assyria and might be anywhere. So the Judahites continue the Israelite polity today because the lost tribes didn't knowingly do so.
If you wish to say the lost tribes mostly informed the whites, that theory is pretty good for this forum. That's not relevant to my point.
Since Jesus was Ioudaios and Judahite, he was one with the people who eventually got called Ju. There is no other people in the land after the 7th century BC that "fought for power" from within the same collective; the Samaritans were from another race. Only the kingdom of Judah reconstituted around 620 BC continued the name of Judahite, and only they (with those who were born or naturalized to them) contribute to today's Jewish people.
Of course there are other Israelites, Hebrews, and Semites out there, but we don't get to contradict the Bible saying that Jesus was Ioudaios, and we don't get to contradict history saying Ioudaios became Jew.
As someone who agrees with not letting the Swamp Rangers organization take over, someone exposing the truth while being constantly attacked, I totally affirm this post. You're welcome. Since you ask, I will continue to defend this place from attack.
I think the Architect represents an intermediate being that has tabs on everything but does not have ultimate control of anything. The king on the asteroid who wouldn't get up, in The Little Prince by Saint-Exupery, is the type.
u/guywholikesDjtof2024, OP narrative is modifed from The Urantia Book, it's a total nother vortex to get into, they've spent decades reinterpreting the whole Bible so that they feel insulated, and they meet truth with just-noticeable twists. Not easy to interact with so I often don't.
Theistic evolutionists can shoehorn their way into the creeds. What they cannot do is say as Hitler said, "This planet will once again follow its orbit through space devoid of humanity." That's what contradicts the universal creed of the Second Coming. Usually theistic evolutionists don't do that, and even Tipler's Big Crunch is intended to be consistent with some thoughts of the Second Coming.
If theistic evolutionists want to handwave away both most of Genesis 1-11 and "by one man came death", even though Jesus says Adam was historical, they have a double shoehorn because they have to fit a bunch of alternate reading in and they have to deny aspects of evolution as well. They affirm humanity has meaning and received a spark of divinity, which is not intended by evolution at all and adds to its improbability, and they also must theorize that prior primates did not count as sapient and so some creatures are below others in the same interfertility group. Obviously today we call that racism, and I don't think Adam was racist against any primates he was related to.
So, while I'm not silent about by objections and criticisms, I'm not going to say old-earth contradicts the creeds, it just has to be very cagy about its interpretations. But future dooming does contradict the creeds.
They're not satanic, they're to direct discussion about satan. No prayers have been offered there, maybe you'd like to say a covering prayer.
Another side note, I don't have a problem with cavemen or Neanderthals being children of Adam. It's probable that many prediluvians lived in caves, and Neanderthals are interfertile with Homo sapiens and are basically just badly nourished humans with distinctive skulls. There is a measurable DNA barcode difference between Homo and Pan or any monkey.
There is also evidence that Roosevelt sent employees to request advice from House, who was in retirement. That really sealed the deal for me on the flow of American history being an attempt to narrate Philip Dru.
Jesus was Ioudaios (Greek), which is the same as Judaeus (Latin), which was elided to Ju (900s French). If you wish to posit some other people that have no ancestry from the sons of Judah, you'll need to demonstrate the history. I've asked and there is no evidence forthcoming.
I've repeatedly said I have no presence on Reddit. People make up what they want to believe. I have been a moderator on other small sites.
I don't have alts here and I don't dilute topics the community wants. I've posted a reasonable number of posts on topics I think the community wants, like anyone. But we don't have a focus here, so antinatalism, Hitlerism, anti-Judaism, Christianity, theistic evolution, meta, and whatever other topics get posted are chosen by the participants without reference to whether they should or should not connect to a central topic. I'm mystified as to what you think I'm "diluting", except for your quest for a mod that agrees with you, which I've never stood in the way of.
Your idea of who is "infesting" the forum differs from ideas of others. The way to find unity is through consensus-building, otherwise nobody will get modded and we're at the mercy of whatever present mod becomes active next. If you want to move forward I suggest you stop the meta and attacking and go back to your initial proposal of unifying things that contributors can do now without moderation.
Add: I see I spoke a bit hastily because obviously I use the right of doppelganger (u/SwampRangersAlt) and forgot to mention that in the above. I added the word "here" above, because I don't use alts on c/Conspiracies as I do for doppelganger purposes on forums like c/FlatEarth. In other statements of my right to use doppelgangers I've made this qualification, so I apologize for not stating it at first here.
Christianity Community has weekly prayers (formerly daily) and we pray with those who post individual prayers too. We've often taken action to help each other, though that is harder to do as anons. We read Christian books together and engage Bible studies whenever someone has a continuing study to present, and we share music (that too is less often than the past).
I'm sad to hear you felt hated, I thought discussions like this were pretty genial. You were not disciplined for any content, and videos showing that some Jews hate Christians are permitted, but I've pointed out that many people see "lies" in the Talmud without recognizing how its context works or what is taken as the accurate quotation of jokes or nonauthoritative statements. We can debate the truth of your characterizations in any forum, if you think it didn't work in that one.
But what about the black slaves?
And the children of Israel journeyed ... and a mixed multitude went up also with them (Ex. 12:37-38).
I told you that you don't have a separate group of Edomites that remained Edomites and suddenly got the name "Jew" later. You had Edomites that became (a minor) part of the Judahites by conversion and assimilation, and you had the remaining Idumaeans who disappeared from history after the war of 66-73. After losing the Temple there were only Judahites left. Some Judahites were Amoraim (the writers of the Talmud) and some were Christians. This difference was not ethnic but sectarian just like any other prior sects in Judaism. They were all Judahites and used the same mishna. The Christians didn't write down the mishna and adapted their oral traditions into the written decisions of the councils (starting with Peter at Jerusalem, which is judged very mishnaically with reference to the Laws of Noah); the Amoraim did write down their version of the mishna and their commentary and debates on it (the Talmud). The same Judahite Amoraim were called Judaeus in Latin and were the same ones shortened to Ju in 900s France. There was no Edomite people between 73 and 900 to suddenly emerge in France, there were just the Amoraim, who traced their lineage to the Judahites that lived before 70.
So the continuous polity that has called itself Judean and Ju all this time is the same people, even if they once had an influx of Edomites that did not change their base polity, commitment to Torah, or naturalization rules. The Jews don't get to say America is a black nation just because we've had a much longer influx of blacks than the Judeans did of Edomites, do they?
Stephen Wise is inventing words as there was no "Hebrewism" or "Ebraismos" in 538 BC and if we were to retroactively name it that name would be invalid because Edomites were Hebrews (sons of Eber) also. What they called it was elder tradition, Mosaic law, and in Greek Ioudiasmos or Judaism. It would be accurate to give it the retroactive name Yahwism. Further, he doesn't speak of an event that changed one to another but a millennium-long process of one expression becoming another (until the adoption of the Talmud after 500 AD). Well, during this millennium as he knows, the expression of Yahwism also yielded the Way, Messianism, Christianity. Both branched and became separate geographically and culturally. So in Jesus's day both he and all the Judeans (Judahites) kept the same dynamic Yahwism and argued over its direction. None of the Judeans continued to identify as Edomite; like Herod the Great, their children were recognized as birth Jews with naturalized Edomite heritage, and the objection that they were not Jews at all was popularly rejected. There was no Edomite people or nation identified as such that kept Yahwism or what Wise calls "Hebrewism".
The people who returned from Babylon were not Edomite but Judahite, including specifically Zerubbabel of the Davidic line. They followed the same religion, rebuilding a temple in the same place, and Nehemiah and Ezra established the elder tradition based on the same Torah and open Writings and Prophets as before. If there had been a separate "Hebrewism" at this time parallel to the elder tradition, there would have to have been a separate people who held it, but they don't exist. Also, my fren, you're just wrong to say there were rabbis or Talmud in 538 BC; there were no rabbis until the first century AD, and there was no Talmud until after 500 AD, although the generic word "talmud" for study was used (but not to mean a core of oral tradition, which instead came to be called mishna by Jesus's day). Anyone of standing could contribute to elder tradition, and Jesus learned from the example of Rabbis Hillel and Shammai in particular, who were noted for their hundreds of internal disagreements; there was no one tradition, there was a pattern of recognizing all deliverers of tradition and judging them, and that's what Jesus did as well, placing his judgments sometimes in agreement with and sometimes in disagreement with tradition (Matt. 23:3).
There is no evidence of two separate people called "Israelites" and "Judahites" (seeing as all Judahites are sons of Israel), who had two different religions and identities in the same land for 600 years, who never intermixed, who both had pedigrees from Judah meaning there was no way to distinguish them ethnically and yet who in this hypothesis were perfectly distinguished. No, one evidence is that there was a separate people already, Samaritans, over that period who was clearly distinguished from Judahites, and who did keep separate from intermarriage, and where we do have plenty of evidence of separation of culture despite similar tradition; none of that exists for this theory of Hebrewists and Judaists. Further, among the Judahites, we have a continuous testimony of teachers carrying on the same polity even though it typically resolved itself into two parties of elder tradition (the Zugoth), led by the Nasi and the Abbethdin who operated together to lead the one Sanhedrin. These two parties could be considered conservative and liberal, culminating in Hillel and Shammai and arising as the Pharisee and Sadducee (lead) parties. This division also exists and has nothing to do with a separate people from the Judeans that would still be called "Israelites". The Sadducees died with the temple and the Pharisees participated in the split of Rabbinical Jews and Christians, some Pharisees (Joseph, Nicodemus, Gamaliel, Paul) siding with the Christians and some (Johanan ben Zakkai) siding with the nascent rabbinical movement. It is facile to take a rabbinical statement about a millennium-long transition and to treat it as speaking of two separate peoples all that time instead of a single chain of tradition among a single people (without reference to same chain informing the Messianic branch).
TLDR 1: You are perpetuating a narrative that has no basis in historical facts and that posits a distinction within a people for 600 years that does not exist. Your theory was already tried here again this month and found wanting.
If you were to speak of the Edomite influence in Judaism, that exists just as it would also in Christianity, because the Edomite influx informed both. There is no separate Edomite people that suddenly got called "Ju" in 900s France, as if the continuous people that were called Judaeus in Latin for the millenium before that, the Talmudists who had Judahite genealogy, didn't deserve that title.
Now I didn't say you don't get to call out the likes of Epstein for calling himself Jewish. By all means expose all satanists and cabalists with no need to reference ethnicity. So there's no need to read me as saying that. What I did say is that we don't have the right to say that the whole group who identifies as Jews and Judahites today, who still often have genealogies going back to Judah and Levi, don't have the right to the name "Jews". If we say that, we affirm that outsiders get to decide names rather than insiders, and that would give the Jews logical rights to say we're not Americans but unnaturalized immigrants are the true Americans. Every people-group gets rights to self-determination and to decide who is one of them by immigration processes. Your argument amounts to saying the Judahites were too stupid to manage their own immigration process to maintain their identity, and we get to say from outside who the "true" and "false" Judahites were because their immigration decisions on the ground, when they knew the requirements of circumcision, count for nothing. It sounds like a very Jewish and subversive argument, frankly.
TLDR 2: I write because I have data and I earnestly want to know if my data is wrong. This theory has reared itself on Scored repeatedly, always without evidence, and so my honest quest for evidence remains. A discontinuity of people is not evinced by one millennial rabbinical view of process. Instead, the history shows one people of Judah who have been influenced and intermarried successively with Egyptians, Babylonians, Edomites, and Khazarians, and others, but who maintained their unity and polity the whole time. If an influx of immigrants gives outsiders the right to declare a polity to have broken, then the American polity would be no more; but as long as Americans uphold the same Constitution they remain the original America. The same is true of Judahites upholding the same Torah.
I'm not seeking to push anyone away from Christianity and nationalism, but I do give evidence against evolutionary perversions of the same. Everyone can draw their own personal boundaries around Christianity and define those boundaries even though they are not in offices that build "gates" to be kept on behalf of communities.
What I mean though (see above) is that it's logically impossible for Christians to doom so far as to believe that humanity might perish, as Hitler considered possible. Nothing to do with dinosaurs. All Christianity assumes that Jesus will redeem humanity and the earth into an eternal state, the second coming is in everyone's creed. If someone countenances the extinction idea they are indicating they are not creedally Christian at all. And they are not nationalist if they believe their nation will ultimately fall and become extinct. See the difference between what I said and what you may have heard?
Hi Kaarous, did you have some smoking-gun indicators in the first posts to indicate it was indeed the same person, or were you working merely from instinct (which as mod is totally your right)? Paleo gave us the idea that the account laid low the first day before revealing itself today. It seems that if we have smoking guns admin acts as soon as they process the notification.
I save DDOS for those with experience. My call is to build community based on standards of civility (accepted by white people and all people of good will) that are generally agreed by the 2021 PDW community that formed c/Christianity. You don't like those standards for Christian communities, you are free to propose whiter standards, but banging your head against a Christian community isn't the best use of your time.
Add: You're free to appeal individual cases if the charges had been bogus: you could appeal to the board en banc, the community, the platform community, or the admins.
The ephebophile is suspended, looks like my report and then yours did the trick.
I don't "trust the plan", I "trust and verify", and point out the plan's flaws. Bitcoin looks fine to me, it's not cashless like CBDC is, it's a store of value like barter and precious metals, which are not regarded as "cashless"; but I point out Bitcoin has issues too. If Trump's plan fails it will be too late to buy Bitcoin. You seem to be throwing several strands of spaghetti to see if they stick. They're nowhere near done yet.
Add: You don't need to archive me, I don't delete my comments. I mark edits with "add" or with strikethroughs.
I just said it's understandable that alt accusations must fly in a forum of conspiracist anons, no offense, the truth will out.
gatekeep white nationalism
Um, what I say (not necessarily what u/guywholikesDjtof2024 says) is that whites have every right to nationalism like any other people, and that those who larp as stupid white nationalists, such as the account OP ridicules, are harming the cause of white nationalism that they pretend to advance, by making its proponents look like idiots. If you want to promote white nationalism per se (whites having self-determination rights over their nations and immigration and naturalization), please feel free, you might even do it with occasional reference to the NSDAP, but not with reference to their motives which were, as stated in OP, about the possibility of all peoples ceasing to exist in time. Christians admit no such possibility, and neither ultimately can white nationalists. (The second voluble white nationalist account here, whom I named, constantly dooms and says it's already over, but falls prey to this same observation of being a lampoon of the true white nationalist.)
gatekeep an entire religion behind something irrelevant like geology
If it's irrelevant, there's no need to argue it. You regard my views as gatekeeping because I speak them plainly, while your views are "seems" and "maybe" (which I permit you) but you then turn to attack mine. The point of "prove me wrong" does align with those who think it irrelevant by showing that no evolutionist can prove young earth wrong. If we pursue Jesus as Lord, it won't matter because we won't care much about details and he will guide us into all truth in time.
So the evidence says to me that Darwinism does not "historically slightly align more than" historical, scientific creationism. The curse changed the nature of animals so that they hunt; Isaiah says the curse will be lifted and they will cease to hunt again. No species ever died of eating good plants.
Then since u/Paleo (who I'm still waiting on to address evidence against the ephebophile) wants to ensure u/JosephGoebbel5 is not moderating any communities via alts, I presume you would be willing to give your smoking-gun evidence of JG5 alts to him privately? Or you already have and you can quote the admin's stated response to you about it?
Dionysius miscalculated.
OP knows that I've proven Christ was born on 6 Oct at 3 a.m., 4 "BC" or Julian year -3, i.e. 3 years before Dionysius thought he was.