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jack4455667788 1 point ago +1 / -0

flattard

I'm not tryin' to tell you how to live your life fren, but people who say "flattard" willingly sound like complete morons. In fact, I am convinced that that is the purpose of such incredibly stupid derogatories (glober/globie very much included). It makes you sound like you belong in kindergarten :(

In any case, I am not a flattard, nor a flat earther! Those people don't really exist. It is a psyop you have fallen for designed to keep you from ever discussing or evaluating the subject in earnest. If you would like to learn about what the subject is really about, you should join us on the community I created to explore it!

shill.

I may be crazy, and I may be wrong, but I am earnest. Why not discuss it with me? What are you afraid of?

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jack4455667788 -1 points ago +2 / -3

Hutchinson is a fraud.

Even if he weren't, he hasn't the slightest clue what he was doing and couldn't replicate it with all the funding in the world and a gun to his head. Nevermind that the footage he has is obviously faked...

Don't do drugs kids, and remember - it can only be science if you take notes (and many other rigors besides). Without the notes it's just f*ing around.

This has been a public service announcement.

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jack4455667788 1 point ago +1 / -0

get the fuck off this site then

You're confused. This is a site for all, and the free exchange of all perspectives! Not merely "yours" or gtfo.

if you've got a closed mind

Far from it! You may want to check out the community I created. Few have a mind open enough to even discuss the subject with others (it's so verboten).

I have come to my conclusions by thorough research! Not bigotry, presumption, or close mindedness. Of course, I have been wrong many times before - so if you have some research to share that might warrant me changing my mind, I am very interested to hear about it!

why dont you get a double dose and sog off.

Double dose of what? And how does one "sog" off? I've never encountered that idiom before.

Don't wish ill of your brothers and sisters, fren.

Also, huge mamas and the papas fan. Please don't disgrace their legacy and music as well with your vicious bigotry.

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jack4455667788 1 point ago +1 / -0

humans are even capable of this kind of stuff

We are still capable of lying and conning our fellow brothers and sisters so that we may steal from them :( We don't seem to have learned why we shouldn't, and don't really want to, yet. Ignorance is the root of all evil.

with all of the crap in our water and the drugs everyone takes.

We are at war, and were born into it :(

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jack4455667788 1 point ago +1 / -0

Don't look at the plot synopsis first! It is too good to be spoiled like that.

I would never disrespect rod that way.

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jack4455667788 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fair enough. But don't be surprised when you remain ignorant!

Your invitation stands in any case, if you change your mind (and I urge you to reconsider)!

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jack4455667788 3 points ago +3 / -0

The flat earther says

I'm not a flat earther. There are no flat earthers; that is a heavily advertised (i.e. heavily funded) psyop. Because you have fallen for it, you will never seriously discuss or evaluate the subject. That is the psyop's purpose.

I am a flat earth researcher; we study the psyop, amongst many other things. You should stop by the community I created specifically for the discussion and exploration of the subject! Earnest flat earth research is nothing like you have been made to think it is. As long as you are earnest, I assure you it will be a rewarding experience (even if you stubbornly refuse to learn anything new, or change your existing views in any way). Give it a shot; share your views and expose them to rational criticism (in the hope of refinement) as we do!

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jack4455667788 0 points ago +1 / -1

Remote viewing is real.

Not in the slightest, no.

Telepathy etc.

Maybe, but there is no evidence for it. The people who claim and demonstrate are entirely frauds.

Havent u ever taken lsd???

Lol. I know this world all too well.

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jack4455667788 1 point ago +1 / -0

Spiritualism was huge during that time period.

Unfortunately humans are just as stupid and gullible today :(

They were traveling magicians/charlatans, and fooled a great many for profit.

Houdini went on a crusade against them during the latter part of his life.

Because they learned nothing, these same mistakes and "studies" were repeated in the 70's. I highly recommend people to watch the documentary on "the amazing randi" to learn more about that.

by pkvi
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jack4455667788 1 point ago +1 / -0

Flat Earth is a fucking retarded psyop

Agreed. It is heavily advertised (i.e. heavily funded) so that you know that!

Earnest flat earth research is nothing like that psyop or the offensively stupid things they loudly advertise to prevent you from ever seriously discussing or evaluating the subject. You are right that it is a psyop, and stupid, but you are wrong about why!

Even writing this I feel kinda disgusted that I am interacting with (probably) a completely, knowingly corrupt, maybe-paid pysop crier, or (less likely) with a complete dupe.

You are meant to feel this way - it is by design, and the purpose of said psyop. As long as you are certain that I am either a glowie/fed/agent of the psyop, or a useful idiot repeating their nonsense - you will never have any reason to seriously discuss or evaluate the important subject.

Your record so far is, in addition to pedaling a retarded psyop

I don't peddle anything, and am careful to avoid manipulation of any kind (marketing, convincing, argument, debate etc.). I invite to discuss and to research together in the collaboratively earnest pursuit of truth, for the benefit of all mankind. I encourage all to do the same, regardless of subject. In fact, I fight against the retarded psyop!

claiming that Earth's constant gravitational field is not "gravity"

Right. The gravitational field (actually today it is the "warping of spacetime", not a field at all) is what is believed to cause the phenomenon of gravity, which is a scientific law millennia old. Gravitation is the scientific theory, and gravity is the scientific law. Understanding the difference and why it is critical that they do not have the same name is fundamental and vital to science (as well as any discussion thereof)

must take on some special meaning

Yes, to many who first hear my nomenclature, the response is very similar to yours! I can only say that there is "method to my madness", and that I deeply love and care about science. It is through its rigorous study that I have come to understand why it is so important to keep laws and theories separate, and to acutely recognize what they are and what they are for.

I sincerely invite and encourage you to join me on the community I created specifically to discuss this subject, and to share your own views as well! Earnest flat earth research is nothing like the heavily advertised psyop you have experienced before.

Click my username, and on the right hand sidebar under "Moderator for..." will be the link. If you don't see it (it doesn't display on small screens/phones), let me know and I'll pm it to you.

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jack4455667788 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sci-fi addiction. It is a major part of their secular religion of scientism.

Many (if not most) don't even recognize that they are religious.

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jack4455667788 1 point ago +1 / -0

NASA et al is essentially a grift.

Huge amounts of taxpayer money goes in, and nothing of value (or justifiable expense) comes out - like these press releases. They are just to ostensibly justify the fantastic amounts of money they embezzle.

There is no deeper meaning :(

If you want to discuss and explore the topic further, as well as share your views, please join me on the community I created specifically to discuss such topics. Click my username, and on the right hand sidebar under "Moderator for..." will be the link. If you can't find it (it doesn't display on small screens/phones) please let me know and I'll send it to you.

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jack4455667788 -1 points ago +1 / -2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx_G2a2hL6U (Sorry for the youtube link :()

"Outer space" writ large is entirely fake and gay. This guy pictured knows that all too well ;)

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jack4455667788 2 points ago +3 / -1

Hope is the last plague in pandora's box.

Luckily she closed the box just in time to keep that one plague within it.

That's why humans have the choice to abandon hope, which is a plague and a delusion.

One of the many reasons they willingly choose the plague of hope is to delude themselves from despair, but there are far better approaches available.

Even if you take out all the perpetrators or they let you free somehow, at the very end I believe you'll come to the other side no longer a human but a dying, traumatized animal begging to be shot.

Believe what you wish, but you are wrong.

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jack4455667788 1 point ago +1 / -0

The objective is to stop educating altogether.

Oh they've already well achieved that one.

The population must be dumbed down so they stop questioning "experts."

Agreed. An informed and capable/willful populous is the scariest thing imaginable to a tyrant.

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jack4455667788 1 point ago +1 / -0

Read yourself you daft retarded cunt

Lol. You're killin' me here bro (or sis).

You have done nothing but troll and mock

I have perhaps been flippant, and certainly been "matter of fact" - but I have not trolled or mocked once. Could you please provide a quote of me doing so, so that I may understand what you are interpreting that way and make clear my statements true intention? Assuming I am wrong, and I have trolled and/or mocked you - this would also be helpful for me to recognize that, properly apologize to you for it, and to do better in the future!

You started insults.

I work very hard to avoid insults. I directed my criticisms at your statements, not you! You are not your statements! I encourage all to viciously attack the thoughts, but never the thinker!

Calling me chicken little

I did do that. You've got me dead to rights. However, as I said - I said it to convey and out of love. It was not meant to offend. Chicken little is not stupid, they have been duped/whipped into a frenzy by others (in certain tellings of the story anyhow - in others they are the overly fearful one, but I did not know that until just now when I looked it up)

and using LOL

It merely stands for laugh out loud. It was an expression of my emotion, not mockery or insult.

But the funny is at least I learned something in school

It is important to learn, but it is more important that what you learn is correct. You cannot be blamed, and I am NOT blaming you, for repeating correctly what you have been taught. The trouble is, it isn't correct. It's stupid and unscientific fantasy, part of a larger fear porn propaganda presented to students erroneously/disingenuously as science. As I've said, our conversation is a LARGE one - much larger than this thread or OP.

Where did you learn

I am an autodidact. I am the "fool on the hill" and I come to the square to share what I have seen and how I have seen it. I also learned in school, as we are most all required by law (under duress) to do.

Where you haven't debated. Nowhere. But you have had the gall to suggest you provide rational debate. It's nowhere.

That is true. I do not debate. I only engage in rational discourse! Debate is across purposes to effective communication of any kind, and is merely a stupid game for sycophants.

Why would anybody, and I mean anybody want to entertain your win thread.

Only if they earnestly wish to know more about why I say the things I do, and how I know them! You have expressed this desire many times in our conversation, but haven't taken me up on the (repeated) offer yet. I hope you change your mind!

It is ignorant, it is abusive, it is condescending, it is mocking.

Please forgive me, that is not my intention. Perhaps we may try again?

What are you doing right now specifically by not answering this topic

I am merely explaining, again, that "answering this topic" is a large undertaking and will take time! I am also encouraging you to spend that time, and to engage with me earnestly in the appropriate setting/forum.

But Magnetic North moves, because of the snow globe wobbling? You said it.

Now who's trolling? As I said, the minor variances known to exist in the magnetic field of the earth are not understood. The "field" itself is not understood. Its cause/source is not understood. We have much to discuss about it; such as how we know that the explanations we receive in standardized education are incorrect, and what other frameworks and approaches exist to try and understand the phenomena.

Hilariously dumb after also denying that it didn't

I said that true north doesn't change! Magnetic north changes in small ways, for reasons we do not understand.

Now fuck off back to your bullshit lair with all the other flattened heads.

My community is for earnest students and (largely) independent researchers. If you join me there to peruse what content is already available (containing many of the explanations you're seeking, already written out) and to discuss with me - you will see that there are no "flattened heads" there as you suspect. If you do not, you will continue to believe something that isn't true. How could you ever make a fair or accurate assessment of something you refuse to evaluate at all? Give it a shot! It will be well worth your time.

You have proved how dumb you are.

I can live with that. But you have misunderstood me!

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jack4455667788 1 point ago +1 / -0

Lol was ad hominid

Lol. That's kind of funny.

So was your tone

My tone? I verbally attacked you with my tone?! I feel like you might be a little overly sensitive here.

Plain dismissal

Yes. I dismiss stupid ideas that have no basis in science but are presented erroneously/disingenuously under its guise.

Your refusal to even answer

No refusal whatsoever! It's just a longer conversation! Please join me on the community I created to discuss it further! Just ask, and I'm most happy to share my perspective/knowledge with you!

You dumb ape.

This dovetails nicely with the ad hominid line.

I don't need your offered psychology

That's good, I loathe the pseudoscience of psychology. I'm not sure what you are talking about (you didn't quote me! It really is helpful to quote the specific statement I made that you are interpreting as "offered psychology"!) because I offered no psychology.

I hoped for a rational debate on the subject matter.

Sorry, debate is beneath me - I don't engage in stupid games. However, rational discourse is one of my favorite things in the world, and that is what I seek with you and others! Let us not waste breath on debate, but instead discuss - together!

Not erroneous conjecture

Again, please quote me so that I may respond meaningfully. I made no erroneous conjecture. I made plain statements of fact.

You make it personal every time

You may have felt that way, but if you read my words again you will see that I never once made it personal nor directed a single criticism towards you! The criticisms were always directed at your statements. You are not your statements! Your statements (that you were merely repeating, having been taught them - incorrectly - as science) were stupid and unscientific. I am most happy to explain why! Having stupid ideas does not make YOU stupid. We ALL have stupid ideas.

You are simply a troll.

Says the person trolling me currently. Lol. I work hard to be earnest, and I encourage others to do the same.

You offered nothing but blind dismal

Dismissal, absolutely. Blind? No, I see it clearly which is why I know it's stupid and unscientific. If you would like to know what I see and why, please join me on the other community and discuss it!

except for providing a fabrication

Again this statement is too general for me to respond to. I have no idea what you are talking about, or what you interpreted as a "fabrication". Had you only quoted me, I could explain my statements meaning to you. Without that quote, I can only respond that I fabricated nothing, and you seem to be misunderstanding me. Specific criticism of specific statements is a much better way to communicate!

where you mock, goad

Is this about the chicken little line? I assure you that was sincere and out of love. I was not mocking nor goading you. Only trying to "reach" you, and failing miserably! Communication is very hard, and requires tremendous effort from all involved!

But you have offered zero rationality

As I've said repeatedly, I am most happy to provide my reasoning! Because it is a longer discussion and will take some time, and because some of your answers/explanations are already written on the community I created for discussions like this - I suggested we explore them further there!

except dumb refusal

Please quote this "dumb refusal" from me. I have no idea what you are talking about, or referring to. I can only conclude that you are either trolling me, or you have misunderstood something I've said. If you quote what you interpreted as "dumb refusal" , then I can explain what I meant! Without it I can only flatly deny, and that isn't so helpful in communication!

An example of "dumb refusal" would be "No, I am not going to provide any explanation or further detail because I am a monkey who only throws shit at you". What I said was, "I AM going to provide you with explanation and further detail. Please join me on the other community for this more lengthy discussion!"

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jack4455667788 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don't respond to mockery

So don't then! I wasn't mocking you, just expressing emotion (laughing out loud). Even if I were mocking you, you should be able to ignore that and respond to the other content!

I don't need my words repeated back to me either

You mean when I quoted you in-line and then commented my specific response to your quote? You thought I was repeating things back to you? You know you have a few "hang ups" regarding communication - has anyone ever told you that?

I do it for intelligibility/clarity. It is a major benefit to communication and the only thing reddit ever gave us that was of benefit. You should try it!

Where you have explained nothing. Nothing

As I said, any explanation you want, check the community I created where many of your explanations can already be found, and if it isn't there - post your questions! I'm typically quite happy to answer any question assuming I have the answers!

Try again,

Yes, you should. And you should try to avoid ad hominem. It is the last resort of the intellectually feeble. Attack the thought! Never the thinker! Did you notice how none of my criticisms were directed at you?

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jack4455667788 0 points ago +1 / -1

True North is moving.

No, magnetic north shifts (in small ways).

It means the pole is shifting

Lol. That is merely an unscientific belief you were taught under the guise of science. It is also stupid.

The Northern lights are being observed much farther South than they ever have been.

Occasionally. And yet I still haven't seen them with my own eyes :( Perhaps one day.

The magnetic field of the earth has lots of variance - no one has the slightest clue why. The sky is not falling chicken little. Don't fall for the fear porn propaganda!

Where the Earth's magnetic field is also weakening

And increasing!

You're denying it due to constantly popping Flat Earth conspiracies.

There are no "flat earth conspiracies". Humanity requires no conspiracy to be stupid and wrong as it historically always is. The pole shift speculation is both unscientific and stupid.

They haven't accounted for much fact, or offer any explanation, towards my opening paragraph.

I have no idea what you are talking about, but if you want to learn more about flat earth research (not the "flat earth" psyop you seem to have experience with) check out the community I created for its exploration! https://communities.win/c/flatearthresearch. Check the posts there for the explanations you seek or make a post asking questions (or engage in any other way you choose, as long as you are earnest!) I'm typically happy to provide answers to questions when I can!

It might not be very accurate, but it is obvious we are being affected by it increasingly.

It's all nonsense built on the fiction of the geodynamo, which is also unscientific and stupid (look up the curie point).

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jack4455667788 2 points ago +3 / -1

There is no such thing as "pole shift". That is unscientific, unsupported, and stupid.

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jack4455667788 -2 points ago +1 / -3

Either you're too young to have seen it, or you're too old to remember it - either way it'll be new to you!

It is a documentary and it was shot in real time ;)

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jack4455667788 2 points ago +2 / -0

i didn't show the address, it's very dark, picture is almost as grainy as a UFO sighting. we'd need a forensics expert to find this house.

The point is, it is not a good idea. Those experts and sophisticated computer systems exist for that purpose. I agree that as long as you are not a target, it won't much matter - but it is still bad practice.

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jack4455667788 2 points ago +2 / -0

I do not recommend posting pictures of your own house (doxing).

I don't know if this is odd for the moon or not. Is it?

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