My tone? I verbally attacked you with my tone?! I feel like you might be a little overly sensitive here.
Plain dismissal
Yes. I dismiss stupid ideas that have no basis in science but are presented erroneously/disingenuously under its guise.
Your refusal to even answer
No refusal whatsoever! It's just a longer conversation! Please join me on the community I created to discuss it further! Just ask, and I'm most happy to share my perspective/knowledge with you!
You dumb ape.
This dovetails nicely with the ad hominid line.
I don't need your offered psychology
That's good, I loathe the pseudoscience of psychology. I'm not sure what you are talking about (you didn't quote me! It really is helpful to quote the specific statement I made that you are interpreting as "offered psychology"!) because I offered no psychology.
I hoped for a rational debate on the subject matter.
Sorry, debate is beneath me - I don't engage in stupid games. However, rational discourse is one of my favorite things in the world, and that is what I seek with you and others! Let us not waste breath on debate, but instead discuss - together!
Not erroneous conjecture
Again, please quote me so that I may respond meaningfully. I made no erroneous conjecture. I made plain statements of fact.
You make it personal every time
You may have felt that way, but if you read my words again you will see that I never once made it personal nor directed a single criticism towards you! The criticisms were always directed at your statements. You are not your statements! Your statements (that you were merely repeating, having been taught them - incorrectly - as science) were stupid and unscientific. I am most happy to explain why! Having stupid ideas does not make YOU stupid. We ALL have stupid ideas.
You are simply a troll.
Says the person trolling me currently. Lol. I work hard to be earnest, and I encourage others to do the same.
You offered nothing but blind dismal
Dismissal, absolutely. Blind? No, I see it clearly which is why I know it's stupid and unscientific. If you would like to know what I see and why, please join me on the other community and discuss it!
except for providing a fabrication
Again this statement is too general for me to respond to. I have no idea what you are talking about, or what you interpreted as a "fabrication". Had you only quoted me, I could explain my statements meaning to you. Without that quote, I can only respond that I fabricated nothing, and you seem to be misunderstanding me. Specific criticism of specific statements is a much better way to communicate!
where you mock, goad
Is this about the chicken little line? I assure you that was sincere and out of love. I was not mocking nor goading you. Only trying to "reach" you, and failing miserably! Communication is very hard, and requires tremendous effort from all involved!
But you have offered zero rationality
As I've said repeatedly, I am most happy to provide my reasoning! Because it is a longer discussion and will take some time, and because some of your answers/explanations are already written on the community I created for discussions like this - I suggested we explore them further there!
except dumb refusal
Please quote this "dumb refusal" from me. I have no idea what you are talking about, or referring to. I can only conclude that you are either trolling me, or you have misunderstood something I've said. If you quote what you interpreted as "dumb refusal" , then I can explain what I meant! Without it I can only flatly deny, and that isn't so helpful in communication!
An example of "dumb refusal" would be "No, I am not going to provide any explanation or further detail because I am a monkey who only throws shit at you". What I said was, "I AM going to provide you with explanation and further detail. Please join me on the other community for this more lengthy discussion!"
Read yourself you daft retarded cunt. You have done nothing but troll and mock. You started insults. Calling me chicken little, and stupid, and using LOL. But the funny is at least I learned something in school. Where did you learn. Obviously from your asshole. It has shat all over this page. Where you haven't debated. Nowhere. But you have had the gall to suggest you provide rational debate. It's nowhere. Why would anybody, and I mean anybody want to entertain your win thread. Look how you speak. It is ignorant, it is abusive, it is condescending, it is mocking. It hasn't debated unless it has trolled. Take too much time. What are you doing right now specifically by not answering this topic. You're trolling. It is all you have done. While using ad hominid rhetoric. You used it, read yourself, your opening. We can all hope the sky falls on your flattened head. Because it sure as hell is hitting almost everybody else increasingly today.
You haven't spoke about anything other than jack's shit, trolling, baiting, and goading. But it has nothing to do with this topic. Unless it was in dumb refusal, from opening, and throughout. But Magnetic North moves, because of the snow globe wobbling? You said it. Hilariously dumb after also denying that it didn't. Absolute non stop nonsense. Not once have you made any attempt to answer this topic or thread with anything but your pig stupid blind refusal and believe in Jack's shit. Not once.
Now fuck off back to your bullshit lair with all the other flattened heads.
I have perhaps been flippant, and certainly been "matter of fact" - but I have not trolled or mocked once. Could you please provide a quote of me doing so, so that I may understand what you are interpreting that way and make clear my statements true intention? Assuming I am wrong, and I have trolled and/or mocked you - this would also be helpful for me to recognize that, properly apologize to you for it, and to do better in the future!
You started insults.
I work very hard to avoid insults. I directed my criticisms at your statements, not you! You are not your statements! I encourage all to viciously attack the thoughts, but never the thinker!
Calling me chicken little
I did do that. You've got me dead to rights. However, as I said - I said it to convey and out of love. It was not meant to offend. Chicken little is not stupid, they have been duped/whipped into a frenzy by others (in certain tellings of the story anyhow - in others they are the overly fearful one, but I did not know that until just now when I looked it up)
and using LOL
It merely stands for laugh out loud. It was an expression of my emotion, not mockery or insult.
But the funny is at least I learned something in school
It is important to learn, but it is more important that what you learn is correct. You cannot be blamed, and I am NOT blaming you, for repeating correctly what you have been taught. The trouble is, it isn't correct. It's stupid and unscientific fantasy, part of a larger fear porn propaganda presented to students erroneously/disingenuously as science. As I've said, our conversation is a LARGE one - much larger than this thread or OP.
Where did you learn
I am an autodidact. I am the "fool on the hill" and I come to the square to share what I have seen and how I have seen it. I also learned in school, as we are most all required by law (under duress) to do.
Where you haven't debated. Nowhere. But you have had the gall to suggest you provide rational debate. It's nowhere.
That is true. I do not debate. I only engage in rational discourse! Debate is across purposes to effective communication of any kind, and is merely a stupid game for sycophants.
Why would anybody, and I mean anybody want to entertain your win thread.
Only if they earnestly wish to know more about why I say the things I do, and how I know them! You have expressed this desire many times in our conversation, but haven't taken me up on the (repeated) offer yet. I hope you change your mind!
It is ignorant, it is abusive, it is condescending, it is mocking.
Please forgive me, that is not my intention. Perhaps we may try again?
What are you doing right now specifically by not answering this topic
I am merely explaining, again, that "answering this topic" is a large undertaking and will take time! I am also encouraging you to spend that time, and to engage with me earnestly in the appropriate setting/forum.
But Magnetic North moves, because of the snow globe wobbling? You said it.
Now who's trolling? As I said, the minor variances known to exist in the magnetic field of the earth are not understood. The "field" itself is not understood. Its cause/source is not understood. We have much to discuss about it; such as how we know that the explanations we receive in standardized education are incorrect, and what other frameworks and approaches exist to try and understand the phenomena.
Hilariously dumb after also denying that it didn't
I said that true north doesn't change! Magnetic north changes in small ways, for reasons we do not understand.
Now fuck off back to your bullshit lair with all the other flattened heads.
My community is for earnest students and (largely) independent researchers. If you join me there to peruse what content is already available (containing many of the explanations you're seeking, already written out) and to discuss with me - you will see that there are no "flattened heads" there as you suspect. If you do not, you will continue to believe something that isn't true. How could you ever make a fair or accurate assessment of something you refuse to evaluate at all? Give it a shot! It will be well worth your time.
You have proved how dumb you are.
I can live with that. But you have misunderstood me!
Lol. That's kind of funny.
My tone? I verbally attacked you with my tone?! I feel like you might be a little overly sensitive here.
Yes. I dismiss stupid ideas that have no basis in science but are presented erroneously/disingenuously under its guise.
No refusal whatsoever! It's just a longer conversation! Please join me on the community I created to discuss it further! Just ask, and I'm most happy to share my perspective/knowledge with you!
This dovetails nicely with the ad hominid line.
That's good, I loathe the pseudoscience of psychology. I'm not sure what you are talking about (you didn't quote me! It really is helpful to quote the specific statement I made that you are interpreting as "offered psychology"!) because I offered no psychology.
Sorry, debate is beneath me - I don't engage in stupid games. However, rational discourse is one of my favorite things in the world, and that is what I seek with you and others! Let us not waste breath on debate, but instead discuss - together!
Again, please quote me so that I may respond meaningfully. I made no erroneous conjecture. I made plain statements of fact.
You may have felt that way, but if you read my words again you will see that I never once made it personal nor directed a single criticism towards you! The criticisms were always directed at your statements. You are not your statements! Your statements (that you were merely repeating, having been taught them - incorrectly - as science) were stupid and unscientific. I am most happy to explain why! Having stupid ideas does not make YOU stupid. We ALL have stupid ideas.
Says the person trolling me currently. Lol. I work hard to be earnest, and I encourage others to do the same.
Dismissal, absolutely. Blind? No, I see it clearly which is why I know it's stupid and unscientific. If you would like to know what I see and why, please join me on the other community and discuss it!
Again this statement is too general for me to respond to. I have no idea what you are talking about, or what you interpreted as a "fabrication". Had you only quoted me, I could explain my statements meaning to you. Without that quote, I can only respond that I fabricated nothing, and you seem to be misunderstanding me. Specific criticism of specific statements is a much better way to communicate!
Is this about the chicken little line? I assure you that was sincere and out of love. I was not mocking nor goading you. Only trying to "reach" you, and failing miserably! Communication is very hard, and requires tremendous effort from all involved!
As I've said repeatedly, I am most happy to provide my reasoning! Because it is a longer discussion and will take some time, and because some of your answers/explanations are already written on the community I created for discussions like this - I suggested we explore them further there!
Please quote this "dumb refusal" from me. I have no idea what you are talking about, or referring to. I can only conclude that you are either trolling me, or you have misunderstood something I've said. If you quote what you interpreted as "dumb refusal" , then I can explain what I meant! Without it I can only flatly deny, and that isn't so helpful in communication!
An example of "dumb refusal" would be "No, I am not going to provide any explanation or further detail because I am a monkey who only throws shit at you". What I said was, "I AM going to provide you with explanation and further detail. Please join me on the other community for this more lengthy discussion!"
Read yourself you daft retarded cunt. You have done nothing but troll and mock. You started insults. Calling me chicken little, and stupid, and using LOL. But the funny is at least I learned something in school. Where did you learn. Obviously from your asshole. It has shat all over this page. Where you haven't debated. Nowhere. But you have had the gall to suggest you provide rational debate. It's nowhere. Why would anybody, and I mean anybody want to entertain your win thread. Look how you speak. It is ignorant, it is abusive, it is condescending, it is mocking. It hasn't debated unless it has trolled. Take too much time. What are you doing right now specifically by not answering this topic. You're trolling. It is all you have done. While using ad hominid rhetoric. You used it, read yourself, your opening. We can all hope the sky falls on your flattened head. Because it sure as hell is hitting almost everybody else increasingly today.
You haven't spoke about anything other than jack's shit, trolling, baiting, and goading. But it has nothing to do with this topic. Unless it was in dumb refusal, from opening, and throughout. But Magnetic North moves, because of the snow globe wobbling? You said it. Hilariously dumb after also denying that it didn't. Absolute non stop nonsense. Not once have you made any attempt to answer this topic or thread with anything but your pig stupid blind refusal and believe in Jack's shit. Not once.
Now fuck off back to your bullshit lair with all the other flattened heads.
You have proved how dumb you are.
Lol. You're killin' me here bro (or sis).
I have perhaps been flippant, and certainly been "matter of fact" - but I have not trolled or mocked once. Could you please provide a quote of me doing so, so that I may understand what you are interpreting that way and make clear my statements true intention? Assuming I am wrong, and I have trolled and/or mocked you - this would also be helpful for me to recognize that, properly apologize to you for it, and to do better in the future!
I work very hard to avoid insults. I directed my criticisms at your statements, not you! You are not your statements! I encourage all to viciously attack the thoughts, but never the thinker!
I did do that. You've got me dead to rights. However, as I said - I said it to convey and out of love. It was not meant to offend. Chicken little is not stupid, they have been duped/whipped into a frenzy by others (in certain tellings of the story anyhow - in others they are the overly fearful one, but I did not know that until just now when I looked it up)
It merely stands for laugh out loud. It was an expression of my emotion, not mockery or insult.
It is important to learn, but it is more important that what you learn is correct. You cannot be blamed, and I am NOT blaming you, for repeating correctly what you have been taught. The trouble is, it isn't correct. It's stupid and unscientific fantasy, part of a larger fear porn propaganda presented to students erroneously/disingenuously as science. As I've said, our conversation is a LARGE one - much larger than this thread or OP.
I am an autodidact. I am the "fool on the hill" and I come to the square to share what I have seen and how I have seen it. I also learned in school, as we are most all required by law (under duress) to do.
That is true. I do not debate. I only engage in rational discourse! Debate is across purposes to effective communication of any kind, and is merely a stupid game for sycophants.
Only if they earnestly wish to know more about why I say the things I do, and how I know them! You have expressed this desire many times in our conversation, but haven't taken me up on the (repeated) offer yet. I hope you change your mind!
Please forgive me, that is not my intention. Perhaps we may try again?
I am merely explaining, again, that "answering this topic" is a large undertaking and will take time! I am also encouraging you to spend that time, and to engage with me earnestly in the appropriate setting/forum.
Now who's trolling? As I said, the minor variances known to exist in the magnetic field of the earth are not understood. The "field" itself is not understood. Its cause/source is not understood. We have much to discuss about it; such as how we know that the explanations we receive in standardized education are incorrect, and what other frameworks and approaches exist to try and understand the phenomena.
I said that true north doesn't change! Magnetic north changes in small ways, for reasons we do not understand.
My community is for earnest students and (largely) independent researchers. If you join me there to peruse what content is already available (containing many of the explanations you're seeking, already written out) and to discuss with me - you will see that there are no "flattened heads" there as you suspect. If you do not, you will continue to believe something that isn't true. How could you ever make a fair or accurate assessment of something you refuse to evaluate at all? Give it a shot! It will be well worth your time.
I can live with that. But you have misunderstood me!