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ewxilk 3 points ago +3 / -0

It actually illustrates quite well how power over the masses works. All you have to do is focus laser sharp attention of the masses on a single thing and the rest of the issues will simply fade away. They'll still kind of be there, but they won't make any difference in actual decision making of the average normie.

I don't know how this manipulation technique is called, but they did the same with covid, they did the same with war thing... they do this constantly. It's like a constantly moving and shifting spotlight that puts everything else in the dark.

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ewxilk 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yep, it is heartbreaking... if you look at the face value of it. The conspiracy here is that some say Dave Dave actually is Michael Jackson. The idea is that Jackson faked his death and this character is just a joke on the public - kind of like a mockery or something.

Well, I don't know is this Dave Dave thing true or not, but the idea itself is quite fascinating. Also, this might not be the first time they've done it. Just look at this Jack Steven character! Hell, even the news ticker right under that interview and the fact that hosts pretend to not notice anything strange seems like a mockery!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt2ba3R51aI

If anything, It really does seem like a duper's delight. He even says "I feel like a part of me died." How much more obvious can it get?

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ewxilk 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yep, absolutely! It's just a gatekeeping going on here...

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ewxilk 1 point ago +1 / -0

Haha, yes, I just didn't want to use excessively strong words in the title, so I chose that one.

Regarding Jackson, yes, his case passed my mind as well. It is entirely possible that he was one of those who didn't want to cooperate. Smear campaign to cancel him started right at the time when he started to say something along the lines of entirely industry being corrupt or similar... All in all, I haven't looked into all that too much, but there are so many questions and so little answers... His looks and his behaviour, for one thing... How they tried to convict him, but didn't manage to do that. Also, do you know about the whole Dave Dave thing?

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ewxilk 1 point ago +1 / -0

You might be onto something. People are oblivious to the fact that most of them are hopelessly addicted to their phones and social media. Phone checking is so normalized these days, most people don't realize that, no, checking your phone every five minutes and always keeping it within reach is not normal any way you try to justify it.

Also, it's quite refreshing to understand that only some 10 years ago most of that was not a thing. Yes, yes, only 10 or so years ago was when people started to get smartphones en masse and even then it was not immediately they all got addicted. So, basically there is a very strong correlation between mass smartphone (as well as social media) use and society going literally insane.

That said, I don't think any of that is being coincidental. This is not some grand progress or natural change. This is being done deliberately in order to achieve certain goals.

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ewxilk 1 point ago +1 / -0

You should have some ideas yourself by now.

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ewxilk 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don't play this game. Not because I'm afraid or anything, but because I'm not entirely sure myself. Are they involved? Absolutely. Are they the paramount TPTB? No, right at this point I don't really think so.

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ewxilk 2 points ago +2 / -0

Aw, come on! Are you suggesting that TPTB doesn't exist and politics on TV are real?

Of course they do exist and asking "who are they?" is so mainstream normie I can't even...

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ewxilk 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well, I'll just say that I was once a believer as well. Until I started to critically examine the facts and research the topic. Also, my opinion did not change overnight. It was a slow change over some considerable time span.

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ewxilk 4 points ago +4 / -0

Normies also believe that something was not quite right with 9/11. They just differ with conspiracy theorists in details, but all in all, 9/11 is almost mainstream now.

Covid scam is also almost mainstream. Many just don't want to accept it, but number of true and honest believers in official story is very miniscule now.

Something being (halfway) accepted by mainstream does not necessarily mean that it is not true. Devil is in the details, as the saying goes, and simply being contrarian just for the sake of it, is certainly not the right way to go about it.

By the way, are you impying that we did land on the moon? Minimal logic skills and few hours of research is all you need to understand that we did not. However, that does not exclude the possibility of it being kind of a double psyop. Like, we did not go to the moon, but that fact going mainstream right at this point in history could be deliberate as well. Perhaps, as a distraction or used for generating general distrust of local governments. After all they can't build their NWO without dismantling Old Order first.

It's similar with Epstein/Diddy as well. The fact that they are guilty as fuck does not exclude possibility that it is being used as a distraction. Both things can be true at the same time and one does not exclude the other.

Something being true or false does not mean that TPTB won't use it for their benefit when the right opportunity arises. Also, you might want to check out this thing called Revelation of the Method, which basically means that TPTB does some fuckery and then openly tells the public about it thus solidifying success of that psyop even further.

(By we I mean humanity in general. I'm not American.)

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ewxilk 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes, I agree. It is not a case of simply removing some bad politians and installing some good ones. It is the system and its incentives we're up against.

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ewxilk 2 points ago +2 / -0

I agree, it's too vague, but it is at least some common ground with the normies. Kind of a conversation starter if you like. It's completely socially acceptable to say that there are corrupt politians who take bribes and steal. Once that is established, there may be some ways to advance discussion further into something more substantial.

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ewxilk 4 points ago +4 / -0

Plain old corruption, perhaps? This is as normie as it gets.

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ewxilk 3 points ago +3 / -0

An interesting video. It's basically an AI simulating a video game. Not just playing it, but also generating all the graphics etc. The bit on reward function got me thinking what kind of reward functions are built into other AIs.

For example, ChatGPT may have a reward function tuned in a way that left wing propaganda has a higher reward than right wing one. It's basically like an artificial bias. You don't need to tell AI exactly what to say and what to not say. You just tune it's reward function in a way that it will by itself determine leaning of particular statement and will naturally tend to choose those that have higher reward points. To be used as a propaganda tool an AI does not need to be top-down controlled. All it needs is in-built programmable bias and it will do the rest by itself.

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ewxilk 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sometimes it feels like our whole reality is fake. History as well. Like it all is just some kind of AI generated bullshit. That would explain all name and date coincidences and all the rest of the bullshit happening.

Other possibility is that they're just fucking with us. I just checked out Reddit and seems like they're pretty much back at left/right paradigm and most of them think elections are real (on some level they probably are, but definitely not in the way media presents it). Then again, Reddit is full of bots and shills so all of that may not mean much anyway...

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ewxilk 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yep, I can imagine cultural borrowing being only on superficial level, while deeper levels remain significantly different from the original meaning. That book seems interesting. I might look into it. Thanks.

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ewxilk 2 points ago +2 / -0

...it is stunning that you are not aware that Russia is a largest European country...

Haha, of course I know that Russia is a European country. I just assumed for some reason that you meant Western Europe. Like France, Germany and such...

...was completely prohibited by Alexander I...

Didn't know such details about Russian masonry. Interesting stuff. I've heard of Griboedov, but haven't read him...

...he was nominant for Nobel prize, but got nothing...

Interesting detail. You might be right about him not being in the club.

I don't know if it is available in English...

No need for English. I read them in Russian ;) I'm from post-soviet country :) Anyway, yes, I've read Methuselah's Lamp. That was some while ago, but I remember liking it. It's probably not the best of his, but a good one nevertheless.

Almost all of his books are highly relevant to actual real world happenings. Take iPhuck 10, for example. Or SNUFF, for that matter... which almost seems like some kind of prophesy or something...

I like his more spiritual texts as well. Like Yellow Arrow and the Fuji novel.

All in all I'm too a constant reader of his stuff :)

WEF, UN, WHO, etc clowns...

Yes, I do not really believe that Tedros or Klaus are actually deciding anything. Most probably those are just figureheads, who do what they're told... just like everyone else... In short, it's a question of levels. Is the publicly visible layer (with all the presidents, heads of various agencies etc) the very top level or is there some level(s) above it? I think it's the latter.

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ewxilk 1 point ago +1 / -0

Probably. Actually my consolation while reading those classics is that probably back then masonry wasn't so bad as it is today and also the possibility that the really nasty shit starts only on higher levels. So, many of those authors might have been well meaning and honest. They just didn't know the whole picture and didn't foresee how it'll all turn out.

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ewxilk 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes, could be you're right. Fake writers is a whole another subject. For example, was Harry Potter really written by Rowling? I have my doubts. Also, the way it got popular doesn't quite seem organic. Most probably it was made popular, not became it.

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ewxilk 1 point ago +1 / -0

I see freemasons as a purely European phenomena.

Here you go: "Alexander Pushkin was Initiated in 1821 at Lodge Ovid, in Kischinev, Russia." That said, I agree with you that freemasonry is mostly a European thing. Was Pushkin a jew, mayhap?...

So they create and made that masonry popular among elites and get what they want.

You could be right. To think about it, I do know of the term "judeo-masonry", but haven't given it much thought previously...

Of course not. It is a direct depiction of brain contents of elite and their leaders of that time.

Which kind of brings us back to the original question: how much of our cultural codes have been manufactured and how much have occured naturally? Also, is being part of the elite a prerequisite to becoming famous? Can anyone at all become famous without being approved and vetted by the elite beforehand? Or is it just a one big club and if you're not part of it, you won't even get close to being famous or well known no matter how talented you are?

Even occasionally looking at commercial ads, you will find some of them are really great and obviously created by a talented person.

This reminded me of Pelevin's novel Generation P, haha. It has a lot of creative ad examples as well as ruminations on the structure of our society, consumerism, fake politics and more. A really recommended read, if you haven't read it already.

Pretty good method to hide real shit in the clear sight.

I've read somewhere that on some level masonic lodges really are just a bored gentlemen's clubs. That lower level masonic initiates are not getting any secrets revealed and nasty shit starts only at the higher levels. So you could be right about the perfect coverup. On the lower levels you have naive initiates, public masonic museums, some charity here and there, stuff like that... while the actual shit is happening away from the public eye hidden in plain sight.

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ewxilk 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ivan Hoe? Hmmm... Not only freemason, but also Russian shill. :)

Haha, good catch!

I see no problems do them in Golf clubs or even private fitness.

Well, yeah, probably, but wouldn't you agree that it is kind of strange that so much of our classics are written by members of one single particular bored gentlemen's club? So it just happened that so many talented classic authors coincidentally were freemasons without any reason whatsoever? Also, purely coincidentally those works and characters became globally recognized cultural icons such as Dracula, Holmes etc... Is it all just a coincidence? As I mentioned in my OP, even if we discount all mason related conspiracy theories, it is still strange as hell...

At least Mark Twain is good and interesting for me and I think deserve title of classic regardless of masonic membership.

Yes, sure. One does not exclude the other. Even if it was coordinated and guided deliberately, it does not mean that there was no real talent behind it... I guess, it all boils down to the question, whether classics were created and made popular artificially or did it all happen without any delibarate guidance and were driven by popularity and talent alone?

As for Hollywood, I think it is much more Jewish thing than masonic.

Could be... I meant it as an example that book reading back then was just as much, if not more, influential as watching Hollywood and Netflix movies are today.

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ewxilk 3 points ago +3 / -0

I think some of the events are. There is no way they didn't know and didn't anticipate shitshow that would start with the whole female boxing situation. Was Italian boxer (who gave up after 40 seconds) also in on it? Probably not... but the overall situation was definitely scripted.

Also, I'm quite sure that large part of winner positions are known beforehand. Probably not all, but at least some of them definitely are.

All in all as u/turtlebam says, it's the bigger picture that matters. Opening and closing ceremonies, agenda pushing, propaganda, outrageous security protocols (which probably won't go anywhere after the games are over) etc, etc...

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ewxilk 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes, I know about those. Of course it wasn't a coincidence. The question is though why those articles are appearing all of a sudden on mainstream media? What is the real purpose of those disclosures? Also, will any real action follow? Or nothing will happen at all?

My guess would be on Revelation of the Method. They are telling the masses what they did and masses will do nothing about it. That's the actual goal. It's like telling us "Look what we did and look how you'll do nothing about it!" If no real action follows it'll only make them stronger and masses will become even more apathetic and resigned.

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ewxilk 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think they probably are deliberately releasing this info bit by bit. They can't hide it forever after all. So they're releasing info in small managed doses to get masses acquainted with what they are doing to them.

It's the same old frog being boiled gradually tactic. If it's successful, in a few years time everyone will know that chemtrails are a thing and no significant resistance will follow because everyone will be already used to it.

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