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SmithW1984 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sure. Btw there are great saints of the Church who happen to be black so it's obvious that race can't be a defining factor in Christianity, just like any other division based on biology, intelligence or ethnicity. Literally everyone can become sanctified and participate in divine grace if he or she wills it in their heart and strives towards Christ.

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SmithW1984 2 points ago +2 / -0

I agree with a lot of what you say, including Catholicism. Those people are delusional because they may larp as being based and trad nationalist and anti-semites, but their papacy is completely liberal, progressivist, ecumenist, pro-skittles, condemning antisemitism, pushing socialism and open borders. And that's not just about this Pope or Francis or whoever - this has been going on since Vatican II and I've made many posts about it. There are even books by trad caths that explain how the Vatican was infiltrated and is controlled by the CIA (David Wemhoff).

My problem is that while your personal experience may be this and society is made up of individuals and is not an entity itself, it's still a numbers game. I'm a composer and musician and there's a saying that an orchestra is only as good as the weakest player in it. So even if you have the greatest virtuoso, if he plays in a weak orchestra the overall result will be subpar. The observable reality is that black people didn't fare well throughout history compared to other peoples in many important areas. Looking at statistics today, it's evident there are still a lot of problems with them regardless of the level of society they belong to.

Now it seems that the logical argument is whether these observations are to be attributed to ethnicity and racial differences or to environmental circumstances. It's reasonable to conclude that both factors play a role. The problem is that one side completely rejects the former and sees only circumstance as causing this discrepancy which makes their case much harder to prove.

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SmithW1984 2 points ago +2 / -0

If the question is "can black people achieve at a high level" my lived experience is going to be the strongest evidence for me. A lived experience is reality itself, not numbers on a screen.

The question was do different races have different IQ distribution which is not simply explained by environment and upbringing and then the question became can black people form and sustain civilized societies all by themselves that can match the asian, arab and white examples.

I just don't argue that they can never achieve more, as you seem to. Why would I as a high achiever with African DNA? I couldn't possibly think like that, because I'd be shooting myself in the foot.

That's the problem - you look at this argument as a dialectic and take it personally. I only care for the truth even if it's not flattering to me. Again, from what's observed, it's obvious that individuals can be high achievers.

The same argument can be made for men vs women btw so it doesn't have to be about race if you prefer. Feminism makes the exact same claim as their marxist counterparts espousing CRT. They say women can equal men in every sphere and the only reason they couldn't do that in the past was because the (white) men oppressed them. They refuse to acknowledge there are meaningful differences between the sexes and they're not just biological but ontological. Women generally can't invent, create, build, fight, think logically as well as men. Sure, there are outliers but just like with the black people, the exceptions don't make the rule.

Well why should I listen to that? "My church added something not written in the Bible, so I follow it". I am only obligated to consider what the text actually says. And logically speaking I don't know why Noah's curse would a) be binding like it came from God himself b) expand to beyond what is written

I don't have time for low tier prot arguments. The text was given to you by the Church. What you call "my Church" is the only universal apostolic Church that exists that was established by Christ. What I gave you is the Orthodox exegesis (interpretation) of the passage about the curse of Canaan. If you consider interpretation to be addition, then everyone who reads the Bible adds to it...

And logically speaking I don't know why Noah's curse would a) be binding like it came from God himself

The curse is a prophecy and prophecies come from God, because only He has foreknowledge.

b) expand to beyond what is written

Yes, the consensus is that this prophecy applies to Israel taking over the Canaan. I admit that reading race into it is not within the Orthodox interpretation and can be problematic. But it makes sense that God favors some people over others - namely those who do His bidding and follow His commands. As you said, black people were idolaters for the most part of history so their current state can be red as the result of their moral failings.

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SmithW1984 1 point ago +2 / -1

Isn't you coming to know this also part of the simulation, i.e. an illusion?

Done. That's the defeater for sim theory.

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SmithW1984 2 points ago +3 / -1

Now that's a classic. Make sure to download that somewhere save so that it survives the coming purge.

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SmithW1984 1 point ago +2 / -1

You can't trump lived experience with "muh statistics" and "hey watch this racist youtube video"

Come on, you talk to me about science and objectivity and then say something like this? How are statistics not more cintific and objective than your lived experience? I mean, I know there are black people who are civilized and I didn't claim all black people are stupid and uncivilized because that can be easily refuted. I was talking about the majority and I have entire continents and thousands of years of history to support my case. This definitely trumps anyone's lived experience in trms of scope and objectivity.

If this is what Orthodox are teaching, that's concerning. You're assuming a curse Noah put on Canaan is valid for all black people? That's just kind of insane. I don't see the logic there.

Why is that? Where do you think the curse ended? You rightfully note it's not Ham that is cursed but Canaan. The Orthodox interpretation is that this represents the future corruption of Ham’s line. The curse is foreknowledge and not punishment.

"Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith"

Paul says that to warn Timothy against apocryphal OT stories and gnostic jibber-jabber. This doesn't apply to what's in Genesis.

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SmithW1984 1 point ago +2 / -1

Wow, the more you know!

What a shocker MLK was a jewish puppet posing as a Christian pastor. And notice that he was sexually compromised by Mossad agents like Ghislaine and Epstein I bet.

What's the source of the vid?

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SmithW1984 1 point ago +2 / -1

In fact the outliers do disprove the nazi narrative. Nazis love to push the idea of sub-Saharan Africans being "subhuman" due to "bad genetics", but if their people can in just a generation or two of good habits achieve peak academic performance in white countries, the narrative falls apart.

Dude, I already told you the claim is not made by nazis alone but by renowned biologists and Nobel laureates. In fact I don't care what nazi think because they're delusional. They're not subhuman but races are different. One such difference is general lower IQ which is not just explained by environment but is also genetic.

This idea that we're all created equal and our circumstances are the only thing that matters is exactly why deranged leftists think it's ok to deluge the civilized countries with third world immigrants because eventually they will assimilate and integrate. No, the majority of them won't. There's a good reason why their countries are shitholes and have been so for thousands of years. They are incapable of building and living in a civilized society, just like in the OT the neighboring kingdoms of Israel were incapable of not being degenerate, killing their offspring and worshiping idols.

Since you're a Christian you should have no problems with agreeing that there's ontological difference between the races - the descendants of Ham (black people) were cursed to be subservient to the descendants of Shem (semites) and Japheth (whites, asians). This is the Biblical narrative and it's still considered racist, even though it has nothing to do with darwinism which was adopted by the nazis.

These Africans didn't need to "evolve" through hundreds of thousands of years of "natural selection" in Europe to reach those levels of intellectual achievement.

I'm a Christian and I don't think anyone evolved anywhere.

That's where you're oversimplifying things. This assumes once upon a time God created the "white genome" and then created the "black genome" and "indian genome" with their characteristics locked in place forever. That's not how things work.

No, God created only Adam and Eve as perfect beings and all human genes stem from them. The races were formed long after the fall and after the flood.

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SmithW1984 2 points ago +2 / -0

You present anecdotal evidence and exceptions to the rule but that doesn't prove much.

Statistically it's been established that sub-Saharan people (but also Hindus, Indians and Arabs) have a lower IQ than white people. The regime literally cancelled biology Nobel laureate James Watson for racism because of his findings.

Can you tell just by looking at the forehead? I think it's more about those races having a specific phenotype but the causal factor here is race (the whole), and not characteristics (the parts). So while characteristics like small forehead can still have predictive quality, it's a parts-whole fallacy and it's not the small forehead in particular that causes lower IQ.

It's hilarious watching darwinists atheists squirm about racism when the whole point of Darwin's work and of evo theory's natural selection was to demonstrate the fittest species and races get to the top.

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SmithW1984 3 points ago +3 / -0

Throughout all history people have acknowledged that physical appearance does tell a lot about the character of people. There's a lot of bs sure, but waving it all away by calling it a nazi idea and pseudoscience is equally dumb as going by it a 100%.

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SmithW1984 3 points ago +4 / -1

Are you implying races and certain phenotypes aren't causally related to IQ?

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SmithW1984 4 points ago +5 / -1

It's a fake and gay psy op of course. The EU is ran by the same international elite that runs the US. That world order was set up during WWII and shortly after it the base of operations moved from London to New York (the Bretton Woods system). There could be different factions and disagreements within groups of that elite, but they work it out. For example fabian socialists were historically pro Palestine and pro arab muslim while the Rothschild and the Rockefeller's CFR circles push zionism, especially through dispensationalist denominations and the neocon boomer narratives of the "greatest ally".

The Israel-Palestine conflict is a fake dialectic itself especially when you have rabbis who openly call Islam the broom of Judaism and jews don't shy away from false flags and creating and funding radical islamist organizations like Hamas. This war is not jut about Greater Israel but it's also a means to destabilize the Middle East thus sending a deluge of immigrants to the West and ultimately destroying it.

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SmithW1984 0 points ago +2 / -2

Yeah, sexual abuse and trafficking in the fashion industry sounds crazy - it's such a wholesome enterprise full of good God-fearing people...

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SmithW1984 3 points ago +4 / -1

That's true. But I bet the aluminum in regular vaccines is great for the newborn baby.

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SmithW1984 9 points ago +10 / -1

It's no unexplained. Most of the cases happened shortly after vaccination.

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SmithW1984 0 points ago +3 / -3

I bet it does and that's why it's the most widespread drug in the West. Because tptb want you to be a free thinker and totally not enslaved to the system.

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SmithW1984 2 points ago +2 / -0

And Bitcoin will help overcome it. At least this is what the X post suggests.

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SmithW1984 2 points ago +3 / -1

No, the Fed corporation functions as a National central bank and creates money. The Treasury, a government institution, issues bonds to borrow money. This means that the Treasury only uses money that has already been created by the Fed, either obtained by taxes or when the Fed bought Treasury debt. The Treasury mints coins but that's a miniscule amount of the money volume.

But that's still not where over 90% of the money comes from - which is commercial bank loans and credits. This is the driving process behind money creation and that's why lowering interest rates leads to more loans and increase of money supply aka inflation.

It's amazing that people are so ignorant how the money system works and where money comes from. I mean, how can anyone be critical of the system (or any alternative system like gold and BTC) if they don't even know how it works? I bet you that not a single person on this forum beside me knows this widely available basic information. Why? Because people are lazy and think they know it all and prefer writing bs instead of reading a damn book. It all comes to pride and lack of humility which prevents people from learning from others.

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SmithW1984 0 points ago +2 / -2

Beautiful. Reply again, fiat enjoyer.

Lol I'm not the one who loves fiat. I explained why that's the worst system. You hate fiat alternatives like Bitcoin and want to keep your Fed magic paper.

Hmm; who insulted whom first?

Are you kidding? You're a schizo dude, of course you started it jut like every time.

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