Hi, on the first point - yes, you're correct in genocide being an overarching (and very repetitive) theme.
- So, genocides called for in the Bible are probably too inexhaustive to list but you have the Amalekites where YHWH says, in 1st Samuel 15:2-3 "Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt. 1Sa 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass."
Why order the murder of babies? And of livestock? When Saul kept some sheep and cattle alive to burn in sacrifice to YHWH, YHWH changed his mind towards Saul being King of Israel - because he didn't fulfil the complete and utter genocide of the Amalekites and all their livestock! Is this really the god you accept as your own? Is this really a god you can call all good and all-loving?
Deuteronomy 7 contains the command to genocide many peoples and reiterates the fact that YHWH is the god of Israel only and of no other nation. For example:
Deu 7:1 When the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou; Deu 7:2 And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: Deu 7:3 Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son. Deu 7:4 For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly. Deu 7:5 But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire. Deu 7:6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
See? He chose ONLY Israel to be his very own. And to conquer all other nations. Hence the verse in Isaiah 60:12 which states that the nation that does not serve thee (Israel) shall perish. Yea, those nations shall be utterly wasted. There were multiple genocides past in the bible, and more yet to follow for the sake of the fulfilment of prophecy - which Jesus says he is come to do and that no jot or tittle shall pass until ALL be fulfilled.
For example, Jesus acknowledged that it is he who is referred to in Psalm 110 in Matthew and Mark. Thus:
Mar 12:35 And Jesus answered and said, while he taught in the temple, How say the scribes that Christ is the Son of David? Mar 12:36 For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The LORD said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool. Mar 12:37 David therefore himself calleth him Lord; and whence is he then his son? And the common people heard him gladly.
Psalm 110 says that Jesus will rule of Israels enemies and that they will be made his footstool. The enemies of Israel were Rome - and it was Rome that became the seat of Christianity in what was the Jews theological conquest of the gentiles and parasitisation of the Roman Empire. Remember, it is Jesus being spoken of in Psalm 110 where it says: Psa 110:5 My Lord is at your right side, and when he gets angry he will crush the other kings. Psa 110:6 He will judge the nations and crack their skulls, leaving piles of dead bodies all over the earth.
Jesus will judge the nations (goyim ie the non-Jews), crack our skulls and leave piles of dead bodies all over the earth. Is this guy REALLY your saviour...?
- That is not quite the verse I had in mind, no. It is from Isaiah 49:23
sa 49:23 And kings shall be thy nursing fathers, and their queens thy nursing mothers: they shall bow down to thee with their face toward the earth, and lick up the dust of thy feet; and thou shalt know that I am the LORD: for they shall not be ashamed that wait for me.
Our leaders are to fall at the feet of Israel and lick up the dust of their feet. I mean, they already do so now, but still...
Or in Micah 7:16-17:
Mic 7:16 The nations shall see and be confounded at all their might: they shall lay their hand upon their mouth, their ears shall be deaf. Mic 7:17 They shall lick the dust like a serpent, they shall move out of their holes like worms of the earth: they shall be afraid of the LORD our God, and shall fear because of thee.
Us goy (nations) are likened to worms and will be afraid of their god and shall be in fear because of Israel. Their god is not your god. Them and their god hates you if your not Jewish. Jesus is one of them and is not your saviour.
- Look at what this belief has done to you - making justifications for the unmitigated heinousness of child murder. This can't be you in reality. I hope you might one day be able to read the bible with fresh and objective eyes and see the hatred and evil and deceit that spews from it.
I don't think anyone knows really. They're apparently 'lost'. Some circles claim that Europeans are made up of Israelite tribes and that the Danes, for example, are named for the tribe of Dan.
Other still might suggest that the Ethiopians are definitely in there.
Others still that black people in general but particularly those in America are part of the lost tribes (Black Hebrew Israelites).
They've probably been diluted out of existence through mixing. Perhaps the entire story is mythical. Perhaps there is just jews.
If YHWH is all good and other gods were demolished for 'our' good then how do you explain his continual calls for genocide?
And why does he state that the nation that does not serve israel shall be utterly wasted?
Why does he say that israel will eat the riches of the nations and that we will lick the dust of their feet?
Why does he say to rejoice in the bashing of babies off of rocks?
Finally, where in the entire bible does YHWH ever claim to be the god of any people other than the Israelites? He's not your god in his own view. For reasons already explained, you believe he is your God but nowhere can you point me to YHWH himself saying that he is anyones loving god but the Israelites. Declaring himself a conqueror of nations doesn't count.
That's a challenge for you if you're up for it
Jesus, insofar as he even existed, had no time for you unless you were Jewish. In fact, Jesus saw you as his enemies whom he was to rule over.
He has brought you to the worship of YHWH, Elohim of Israel who has ordained that the goyim will serve Israel or perish. Yeah, those nations shall be utterly wasted (Isaiah 60:12) and it is Jesus who will carry out our destruction (Psalm 110).
Jesus is a trick buddy. Your own gods were abolished by the conquering Jews using the Romans to accomplish it. They burned all your temples, deleted your own gods, burned down all the ancient libraries and FORCED your ancestors into worshipping the Israelite God.
Christianity (and Islam) is THEE conspiracy, for they deceive gentiles into worshipping the God of Israel.
then why aren't those people on their containment board then? Why infiltrate and bombard conspiracies?
It's not Conspiracies AGAINST Christ. It's pointing out that Christ IS the conspiracy - the taking over of Rome and using it to force gentiles into worshipping Yahweh the Elohim of Israel via their Yom Kippur scapegoat myth, Jesus.
Actually, Jews were responsible for the Christianisation of societies via their parasitisation of Rome and consequent forced conversion throughout the empire.
Dechristianisation is the prerequisite condition to throwing off the yolk of the Jews.
You can’t maintain a belief in their concocted messiah, worship the lord god of Israel and accept the Jews as having a special covenant with their god whom you also accept as your own via their Jesus Psy Op whilst simultaneously decrying them.
I mean you CAN, but it’s logically inconsistent and futile
It is not anti-Semitic, it is anti-goyim/anti-gentile and very pro-Jew.
Indeed, the fulfilment of the Bibles prophecies is nothing less than the complete decimation of the goy and for them to worship and serve the Jews as Yahweh’s chosen people.
The god of Abraham is not your god (unless you’re Jewish) and Jesus is not your messiah (unless you’re Jewish).
They both hate your guts and plot and plan your destruction throughout the entire Bible via their special ones, the master race, their Jews.
It’s hardly a strawman when it’s in your Bible is it?
And no, I’ll not be admitting any such thing but rather reiterating that I don’t believe in any of your Jewish myths be it the messiah/Christ or the anti Christ and so will not be following any of the characters in your beloved Jewish texts.
Imagine willingly losing your head for the sake of a fictional Jew who professes to disdain you and whose ultimate goal was to reign over you and lead you towards your ultimate destruction. Total Stockholm syndrome.
Then go on - state explicitly and clearly that in the first person that you acknowledge that the end times prophecies of Revelation state that you, as a Christian, will be beheaded for your witness of Jesus and that you are happy and willing to lose your head for his names sake.
I won't be bowing down to any Jewish messiah. You do realise that there are people, such as I, who exist outside of your false abrahamic trichotomy?
You are ashamed to acknowledge the planned requirement for you to lose your head for Jesus. If you can't just speak openly about it then perhaps you should examine your true feelings about what Christianity requires of you.
no I don't believe in the bible whatsoever so will not be bowing down to any Jewish messiah.
You, on the other hand, will be bowing down to Jesus the Jewish messiah and think it a good thing that you and your fellow sheep will be led to the slaughterhouse to be beheaded for your witness of Jesus
Whichever way you wish to slice it, you acknowledge that your belief in the Bible dictates that you will have your head chopped off but that this is essentially… … a good thing.
The Jews DO recognise Jesus. They ‘reject’ him as their messiah but still uphold the notion that he even existed
It only refers to Israelites on two single occasions.
And what does it refer to in the passage I quoted?
Or indeed in Isaiah 60?
The Future Glory of Israel Isa 60:1 Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee. Isa 60:2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee. Isa 60:3 And the Goyim shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising. Isa 60:4 Lift up thine eyes round about, and see: all they gather themselves together, they come to thee: thy sons shall come from far, and thy daughters shall be nursed at thy side. Isa 60:5 Then thou shalt see, and flow together, and thine heart shall fear, and be enlarged; because the abundance of the sea shall be converted unto thee, the forces of the Goy shall come unto thee. Isa 60:6 The multitude of camels shall cover thee, the dromedaries of Midian and Ephah; all they from Sheba shall come: they shall bring gold and incense; and they shall shew forth the praises of the LORD. Isa 60:7 All the flocks of Kedar shall be gathered together unto thee, the rams of Nebaioth shall minister unto thee: they shall come up with acceptance on mine altar, and I will glorify the house of my glory. Isa 60:8 Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as the doves to their windows? Isa 60:9 Surely the isles shall wait for me, and the ships of Tarshish first, to bring thy sons from far, their silver and their gold with them, unto the name of the LORD thy God, and to the Holy One of Israel, because he hath glorified thee. Isa 60:10 And the sons of strangers shall build up thy walls, and their kings shall minister unto thee: for in my wrath I smote thee, but in my favour have I had mercy on thee. Isa 60:11 Therefore thy gates shall be open continually; they shall not be shut day nor night; that men may bring unto thee the forces of the Goy, and that their kings may be brought. Isa 60:12 For the Goy and kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish; yea, those Goy shall be utterly wasted. Isa 60:13 The glory of Lebanon shall come unto thee, the fir tree, the pine tree, and the box together, to beautify the place of my sanctuary; and I will make the place of my feet glorious. Isa 60:14 The sons also of them that afflicted thee shall come bending unto thee; and all they that despised thee shall bow themselves down at the soles of thy feet; and they shall call thee, The city of the LORD, The Zion of the Holy One of Israel. Isa 60:15 Whereas thou hast been forsaken and hated, so that no man went through thee, I will make thee an eternal excellency, a joy of many generations. Isa 60:16 Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Goy, and shalt suck the breast of kings: and thou shalt know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob. Isa 60:17 For brass I will bring gold, and for iron I will bring silver, and for wood brass, and for stones iron: I will also make thy officers peace, and thine exactors righteousness. Isa 60:18 Violence shall no more be heard in thy land, wasting nor destruction within thy borders; but thou shalt call thy walls Salvation, and thy gates Praise. Isa 60:19 The sun shall be no more thy light by day; neither for brightness shall the moon give light unto thee: but the LORD shall be unto thee an everlasting light, and thy God thy glory. Isa 60:20 Thy sun shall no more go down; neither shall thy moon withdraw itself: for the LORD shall be thine everlasting light, and the days of thy mourning shall be ended. Isa 60:21 Thy people also shall be all righteous: they shall inherit the land for ever, the branch of my planting, the work of my hands, that I may be glorified. Isa 60:22 A little one shall become a thousand, and a small one a strong nation: I the LORD will hasten it in his time.
Mr ex is correct though. Jesus instruction was to become as a child - that is to say, naive and trusting and not to use your critical faculties. You are to be as a sheep and a child, questioning nothing, requiring nothing proven, but to take it all on trust or faith.
This is not good advice. You should absolutely maximise all of your critical faculties in order to be able to spot nonsense and deceit and to discern good advice from bad.