Anyway, if Abraham was a Muslim because he was a man of "peace", he was certainly a Jew as a man of "praise" and certainly a Christian as a man of "anointing".
Are you familiar with The Apocalypse of Abraham? it's a manuscript dated after 70 AD (text must post-date 70 due to its knowledge of the destruction of the temple) and before 150 AD. The Apocalypse of Abraham belongs to a body of Abraham literature flourishing about the time of Christ. "The Book is essentially Jewish," wrote George H. Box, with "features... which suggest Essene origin." From the Essenes it passed, he suggested, to Ebionite circles ... and thence, in some form, found its way into Gnostic circles," though "Gnostic elements in our Book are not very pronounced." -- Dr. Hugh Nibley (Abraham in Egypt)
That in fact a book known as The Apocalypse of Abraham existed in his time is explicitly stated by Epiphanius where, in speaking of the Gnostic sect called “the Sethians,” he says they possessed a number of books “written in the name of great men,” seven in the name of Seth, and among others one “in the name of Abraham which they also declare to be an apocalypse,” and which is “full of all wickedness”.
So I don't think "Muslim" means what you think it means
Nothing wrong with a bit research into the subject. I enjoy studying and learning new things.
If we took a little effort to compare it to the paradoxes of what gnostics actually taught, your head would be spinning so fast
I don't blame you for looking at the Gnostics teachings this way. Not many people wouldn't. Let's look at at the Gospel of Thomas. If your head doesn't spin it might be something wrong with you. Saying 7, "Jesus said, Lucky is the lion that the human will eat, so that the lion becomes human, and foul is the human that the lion will eat, and the lion will still become human.". This saying presents a paradox to illustrate a spiritual concept. The lion symbolizes the wild, bestial nature or the passions, while the human represents the higher, rational, and spiritual self. When the human eats the lion, the lower nature is consumed and transformed into the higher, a fortunate spiritual victory. Conversely, if the lion eats the human, the higher self is overcome and absorbed by the passions. This is a foul or wretched outcome, yet the text adds a twist. The lion will still become human, suggesting that even in this degradation, the divine spark within the human ultimately elevates the lower nature, though through a tragic process. Unfortunately most people have never heard of Gospel of Thomas. Or, rejected because their heads are spinning.
Millions of Jews accepted the Christian revelation in the first century, and millions of Jews rejected it
This may be an exaggeration on your part. According to Theodor Mommsen, in the first century CE there about 1,000,000 Jews in Egypt. The Census of David is said to have recorded 1,300,000 males over twenty years of age, which would imply a population of over 5,000,000. The number of exiles who returned from Babylon is given at 42,360. Tacitus declares that Jerusalem at its fall contained 600,000 persons; Josephus, that there were as many as 1,100,000, of whom 97,000 were sold as slaves. It is from the latter that most European Jews are descended. Also note there were many jews at that time who didn't care one way or another about Jesus.
I told you that idea was Egyptian and literally comes from Kek, but you continue to take it seriously
You told me a lot of things, keep telling me more. I read a lot, listen and watch a lot... but believe little. And I question everything, coming from everybody. Something I'm certain will never change in me.
All you need to do is admit that the Monad is incomprehensible as a pure monism
You see, I don't look at it this way. Not any more. For instance, why are we arguing about belief? take the Muslims, we all acknowledge that Abraham is our forefather and Abraham came before the Bible. He came before the OT and the NT. So why argue? You argue about things you know, but why do you argue about things you do not know? Allah knows and you do not know. Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian. But he was a monotheist, a Muslim. So this is what Muhammad is saying. A Muslim is someone who believes in God as the only true God. And that includes Jews and Christians and he was not of the polytheists.
Gnostics don't see Jesus Christ as the almighty Creator in the flesh
Why would they? when Jesus's mission was of spiritual liberation, not creating a new religion. Jesus and Christ are not the same thing. Jesus was the man. Christ is the consciousness he achieved. Jesus became the Christ, but Christ consciousness existed before Jesus and remains available after Jesus. This isn't diminishing Jesus. It's understanding his true accomplishment. And Gnostics knew that.
The Church is telling you, don't listen to what actually Jesus teaches. Believe us, Jesus is God the "Creator in the flesh". And many people fall for it. What does this even mean? first thing, the Church made Jesus part of what they call the Trinity. Why? because the Jews believe Yahweh created this material world we live in. So, Jesus had to become God (Yahweh), although Jesus never said he was God. Trinity means God exists as three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. But these three are somehow also one God. Now this already is very confusing, because if Jesus is the Son of God, then how is he also God? And if he's both Son and Father, then what does that even mean? This is the kind of logical paradox that has caused theological debates for 2,000 years, and we still don't have a clear answer. So, remember before the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD, the first ecumenical council of the Christian Church, societies were paganistic or polytheistic. Then with emperor Constantine God became the Holy Trinity. The Holy Trinity is the weirdest idea in human history. The Holy Trinity is this God is nothing and everything. And what this means is God is both real and not real. God is a symbol and reality itself. And because of this idea, people are now forced to think abstractly about the world. And it gives rise to money, nation state and science. Serves perfectly the imperial interests and now the Church is an important part of the Empire. People are now forced to think abstractly about the world. Whereas people before could think very concretely about the world.
they follow false doctrines of demons according to the Holy Scriptures
After Jesus's death there were many groups and movements who considered themselves Christians, Gnostics being one of them. Not many people know that the first Christian state was not Catholic Rome, but a Gnostic one, Osroene, with its capital at Edessa in modern Turkey near the Syrian border. The Gnostic teacher, Bardesanes (or Bardaisan), converted King Abgar IX, who ruled 177-212. Bardesanes was credited by church fathers with inventing the Christian hymn and wrote 150 songs that were popular for generations. The most famous is the “Hymn of the Pearl,” a beautiful allegory of the soul being lost in the world and returning to God, found in The Acts of Thomas, an early 3rd century text. However, Roman empire made sure to use propaganda against Gnostics as heretics, which led Gnostics to be persecuted, killed and others to ran away. A small number of Gnostics survived such relentless persecutions. Once the Catholic faction received the official support of the Roman Emperor Constantine in 325, persecution of heretics intensified and the Gnostics went underground and faded away.
But don't you reject this interpretation, Dot? Why speak of it favorably?
Reject? I question everything... and here I'm just stating what Kabbalah teaches. It's the symbolism of the Olive Tree. For instance we can often see the Olive Tree broken off into two parts with a hollow womb in between. There is also a serpentine nature of the two sides of the Holy Serpent and the Evil Serpent, representing the duality of our material world. This is very common among olive trees. Now in Kabbalah by exterminating the Gentiles that soul is released will return to the Holy Serpent and the two will become one. That's the significance of the hollow space between the two that represents in Kabbalah the womb of the sin that is the void that the einsof forms within itself. The contraction so that existence can be made of these two opposite things of the blood of the womb of chaos and the male seed of Light which is emanated into that womb to create life as the co-mingling of opposites.
All of this mythology derives from originally the Egyptians as passed along through the Orphic Greeks and their mythology of Phoenix protogenos as the sun, the silver Cosmic egg created by his parents Chronos (Time) and Ananke (Necessity).
Tikkun Olam = Repairing the world through TRANSHUMANISM
Where do you get your information from? The term “transhumanism” was coined by the English biologist Julian Huxley in 1957. The term Kabbalah refers specifically to the form of Jewish mysticism that became widespread in the Middle Ages. But, Kabbalah is an ancient tradition that is over 4,000 years old. And according to many scholars is the oldest religion.
according to your satanic babylonian book
I have no idea what this means, or where you're going with this.
Kabbalism is Gnosticism and the demiurge is a fake creator god that's identified as Saturn, Satan, Samael
Again where do you come up with this nonsense. Like all of the planets, Saturn is named after a character in Roman mythology... It wasn't until 1655, when Christiaan Huygens pointed his much more powerful telescope at Saturn and the planet was identified. The earliest I can trace the word Satan in English is to the 10th century. Gnosticism originated in the Hellenistic period, that means Gnosticism is approximately 2,000 years old. I quoted you directly from the Secret Book of John where it clearly says the Demiurge has three names: "The first name is Yaldabaoth, the second is Saklas, and the third is Samael." - John, the brother of James – who are the sons of Zebedee
Gnosticism comes straight out of the wicked Babylonian Mystery Schools that worship fallen entities as gods
Again, just more nonsense. And again what is your source for this accusation? for Gnostics Jesus Christ is seen as a spiritual messenger his purpose is to bring hidden knowledge that awakens Humanity to their divine nature guiding them toward liberation. Have you read any of the manuscripts discovered at Nag Hammadi? how about the Gospel of Thomas (Apostle Thomas)? For Gnostics Christ is a revealer of Truth. Gnosticism flourished in the early centuries of the Common Era alongside early Christians and it profoundly influenced Christian theology and philosophy particularly through its focus on inner enlightenment and spiritual transformation. However as Orthodox Christianity began to solidify its doctrines Gnosticism was declared heretical, the church fathers including Irenaeus and Tertullian condemned Gnostic teachings as dangerous deviations from the faith that both the Catholic Church and Rome agreed upon. In other words it didn't serve the imperial interests.
The luciferians from the cabal believe that they themselves can become gods
That's what I just said.
Tikkun Olam aka repairing the world through wickedness and transhumanism
The first part you got right "repairing the world", but the last part is wrong. Let me explain what Tikkun Olam means in Kabbalah. The goal is the final end of death chaos entropy and evil personified by Leviathan in the World to Come (Olam Ha-Ba). That happens when the Moshiach has arrived. This means the extermination of the non-israelites, non-jews (goyim), as part of the process of Tikkun Olam of removing the darkness, the kelypot, the non-israelites the shells the husks the evil and Sitra Achra of the other side of Christendom from existence.
In the Talmud it says that the world has to become either entirely righteous or entirely wicked for all of this to be fulfilled and they had a dilemma because there are supposedly righteous men who keep the world in existence so the world cannot become entirely wicked and still exist. But, then on the other hand the evil inclination will exist for as long as Esau's descendants exist. So the resolution of this dilemma to make the world entirely righteous was proposed by Isaac Luria and Lurianic Kabbalah through the process of Tikkun Olam rectification of the world which is to remove the kelypot from existence to get rid of the shells of darkness and leave only the sparks of Divine Light. Extermination of the goyim.
The Garden of Eden wasn't created by the fake creator demiurge aka satan/saturn
Sorry, but I think you lost me here. In Jewish folkloric and mystical tradition Samael or Satan is the king of all demons, the angel of death, the husband of the demonic Lilith. To the Gnostics, in the Apocryphon of John, the Demiurge is the lesser god and creator of this world. Identified with Yahweh in the OT. He has three names: "Now the archon who is weak has three names. The first name is Yaldabaoth, the second is Saklas, and the third is Samael. And he is impious in his arrogance which is in him. For he said, 'I am God and there is no other God beside me,' for he is ignorant of his strength, the place from which he had come." - Apocryphon of John. But, nowhere the Gnostics Christians mention Satan or Saturn. You should read this text, Apocryphon of John, also called the Secret Book of John or the Secret Revelation of John. This text provides a sweeping cosmology, a vision of creation unlike anything in Orthodox Christianity. It begins in the fullness of the Pleroma, the realm of light where divine emanations, Aeons flow out from the source.
or by his mother sophia aka lucifer the false light bringer
Also from the Secret Book of John, among the Aeons in the Pleroma is Sophia, wisdom, who seeks to create without her partner. In doing so, she brings forth the Demiurge, a blind and arrogant creator who fashions the material world and declares, "I am God and there is no other.". But the Gnostics believe this false god is the explanation for the suffering, ignorance and oppression of the world. And they taught that Christ descended from the higher realms not to glorify this world but to expose its counterfeit nature and to awaken the divine spark trapped within humanity. One of the favorite rumors that fundamentalist Christians like to spread about the Gnostics is that they worship Lucifer the light-bearer. But, that is incorrect... Sophia is not Lucifer.
the Nachash (serpent) messiah of the kabbalists will be the coming biblical antichrist
Maybe it's even worse than you think. Cabalists believe since human beings are escaping matter and obtaining their own ripened knowledge and their own will. They have gone into matter, met with Satan and freed themselves from God and become infinitely separated from God to the point where they are now each individual gods. and they can with their mind, with their will, with their magical powers impose their divine images of the order that matter ought to take. So human beings can now cause God to cease to exist by disbelieving in God. God is kind of an Egregore that only exists because the imaginations of human beings create it and bring it into existence through their belief. So the cabalists cease to believe in the gods, perceive themselves as gods, have gone and met with Satan and freed themselves from these gods and can now utilize the science and technology, the ripened fruit of the tree of knowledge to create vessels which are both androgynous and immortal to contain their souls.
And they have literally done this. They have created artificial wombs in which these full-grown homunculi can now be reared up from the DNA of males without the need of a female egg. They can take extract the DNA of the male to form both chromosomes to create androgynous beings. But instead having humanity cast off the gods and create its own garden which will be superior and perfected and greatly vastly better than what was originally created by the Demiurge.
Esau-Edom
According to Kabbalah, God is perfect Unity he is referred to as the Holy One but he has two aspects and the first part of Creation in order to make two out of the Holy One God had to separate into its two aspects the one aspect is the left side of God which is primordial chaos which is the womb which is the darkness and the blood the blood is the soul the other aspect of God is light light is male the soul is female is chaos as the womb is blood the light is male it is seed that seed emanates into the darkness in the form of an ejaculation that fills the womb of chaos with male seed and the two co-mingle to establish creation so there is a mixture of the two to establish creation and the Holy One is divided by those two aspects of light and darkness of womb and of male seed female womb and male seed.
The Olive Tree is a perfect representation of that and it also represents the two serpents the holy Serpent and the evil Serpent. The Serpent of darkness and the Serpent of light. Very often as olive trees age they divide into these two main trunks coming from the same roots that provide them with the Waters of the underground primordial Waters of chaos. And they battle each other for the light and this is represented by the Serpent's curse of Genesis chapter 3 verses 14 and 15. one of the serpents can strike at the heel of the other Serpent and kill it off by blocking its nourishment from The Roots the other serpent can strike at the head of the other part of the tree and shaded from the light and the Serpent's curse is that there will be two peoples one descended from the evil serpent Satan and the other descended from the holy serpent Yahweh. And these represent Israelites and Gentiles and it is also represented in the battle between the twins Esau the darkness and Jacob the light.
Kabbalah is gnostic in nature as it claims to have hidden knowledge about the world
Kabbalah (aka Cabala) is an evolution of the oral traditions of Judaism found in the Talmud and the Midrash. But, it is much more than that. It is an adoption of middle platonic and neoplatonic philosophy together with the Gnosticism of early Christianity in what is called emanation theories. The idea that there is a highest God that is infinite, invisible and incomprehensible but cannot be divided since it is perfection. If you were to create something other than that God it would be no longer God because God is perfect and to separate from God is to become imperfect. That is, to move away from goodness, beauty and truth and to move away from unity.
The emanation downward is viewed as a catastrophe because it is separation from the Monad. It is distance and it moves progressively downwards towards the hell of nothingness, the evil of matter. And now I'm getting more into the Gnostic and the cabbalistic conception of matter than the Greek. The Greeks viewed it more as a deprivation of goodness to get away from God. But in Judaism, it is viewed as an actual evil force, that there is an evil force of chaos of matter and it's not simply the deprivation of good but it is the alternate aspect of God itself and it is actually the highest aspect of God. They believe that to view primordial chaos formless emptiness and darkness were the first emanation of God before the light. And Kabbalah is unique in this interpretation.
So, in Kabbalah they adopted all of this emanation from the Greeks that formed the universe and the ambition of Greek philosophy. And Plato said that these emanations travel down seven planets to the earth. And the soul since it is an emanation also travels down seven planets to the earth. The goal of the philosopher, the goal of the practitioner in Judaism is to return back and to hop back up those seven planets which become the Sefirot of Kabbalah to return to God, to return to the divine realm and reunite with God and have a mystical ecstatic reunion with God. So the emanation is reversed and it becomes the return. And the return in Judaism is called tshuva. So they are trying to return everything back to God. Now in Judaism, this creator god, the demiurge was revealed by the Gnostics to be a lesser (evil) god that they rejected.
There were Christians who became involved in the evolution of Kabbalah Pico della Mirandola is a prominent one. Johann Reuchlin is another one. And they started to set up apologetics for Judaism to Christians whereby they could ingratiate themselves to Christians and begin to enter into the Christian church and then Judaize it. Jacob Frank was very much a Judaizer of Christianity and he exposed what the Talmud said but he was very much into Kabbalah. The cabalists became very popular because they were sort of wizards and magicians and con artists.
Epstein was in the gnostic Singularity cult that wanted to merge all human consciousness into one
That's not Gnosticism, that's Kabbalah, a form of jewish mysticism. We are looking at Kabbalah teachings of Jacob Frank, literally Satan's working spreadsheet and roadmap to his demonic kingdom of hell.
Chicago World's Fair, known more formally as the World's Columbian Exposition of 1893. Way beyond the scope of even the Salem Witches
In 1893, over 27 million people arrived and literally stampeded through streets and buildings that were supposedly made of light wood, straw, and stucco. And yet somehow in the photographs that we are looking at today, every building is still very much intact. And honestly, this architecture appears to be superior to the steel buildings and new skyscrapers that were being built to replace this type of architecture. So then 27 million people come and go and one of them just so happens to be just about the most mysterious killer of all time known as HH Holmes who himself built a small skyscraper of a building that was full of trap doors, fake walls, and secret entrances that tied to an alleged deeper underground tunnel system.
New yet equally bloodcurdling theories now suggest that HH Holmes was not working alone and that his terror castle was just one of many buildings constructed or founded in such a way to conduct nefarious deeds during the World's Fair. All of which could be accessed or were interconnected by an alleged underground tunnel system. That's a whole different can of worms. But there's solid evidence which suggests nowadays that a whole network of truly evil things were happening just below the surface of the World's Fair.
Now the People are wondering why they would pay taxes to people like this who are also openly try to genocide the masses with poisons in food, water, air, etc.., They are all involved. Left and Right
This nation, once known to be the land of the free and the home of the brave, is now completely and totally under international crime syndicate control. A consortium of wicked robber barons, black nobility, that is the old royal families of Europe, intermarried and interbred with the Rothschilds. The rich are getting richer and people are loosing whatever freedom they have left on a daily basis. Everybody knows the mainstream media is totally controlled by them. The mainstream media news belongs to a group of six parent companies, meaning all mainstream media is easily used to manipulate the public. The mainstream media alternative was made up of podcasts, films, blogs and social media posts. The sphere of theories and theorists became known as the truth or community. And the effect it had upon us was called the Great Awakening.
But today the average viewers or seekers of truth, if not careful, would replace their blind allegiance from one source of information to another. When some made the jump to an alternative news source, they didn't care to question who they were getting their information from. So long as it fit their new narrative and it provided comfort, this confirmation bias seemed to be all that mattered until recently. Many are starting to realize we're dealing with media controlled opposition, the M0ssad Media. That's right, they're all involved, Left and Right. Ben Shapiro, Jack Posobiec, Gabe Hoffman, Mike Cernovich, Laura Loomer and many more are running ops on people. They're unregistered foreign agents. These are serpents in our midst and they have destroyed many souls and deceived many more.
From Epstein's victims still having no justice, some of whom have been murdered, to the children screaming in the tunnels under the Brooklyn Chabad Center and in Gaza where 400,000 babies are either dead or still missing, we all hear their screams.
The matrix... Plato's cave
The Matrix is not something we have just discovered. People were aware of consciousness for a long time. How consciousness works is this; it's an infinite dimensional consciousness. So this is what happens, your consciousness is expanding infinitely into the universe. As you can see at one level you are by yourself, so your consciousness is unique to you. But at another level is that you're connecting with someone else. And then you're connected to another person. And you go on and on until you connect with everything. So within your consciousness there is a capacity to connect with the entire universe.
Different philosophers throughout history have tried to figure out how to best articulate this truth, this great secret to humanity. And the best metaphor that we have is something called Plato's allegory of the cave, or Plato's cave. And this helps us understand who we are, where we came from, and where we're going. So this allegory helps us understand what it means to be human and the human condition.
gnostic heretics
So this is who you are. Good to know I'm messaging with another fake Christian (Crypto-Jew). It goes all the way back to the Roman empire which made sure to use propaganda against Gnostics as heretics, which led Gnostics to be persecuted, killed and others to ran away. A small number of Gnostics survived such relentless persecutions. Obviously you have no idea the first Christian state was not Catholic Rome, but a Gnostic one, Osroene, with its capital at Edessa in modern Turkey near the Syrian border. The Gnostic teacher, Bardesanes (or Bardaisan), converted King Abgar IX, who ruled 177-212. Bardesanes was credited by church fathers with inventing the Christian hymn and wrote 150 songs that were popular for generations. The most famous is the “Hymn of the Pearl,” a beautiful allegory of the soul being lost in the world and returning to God, found in The Acts of Thomas, an early 3rd century text. But once the Catholic faction received the official support of the Roman Emperor Constantine in 325, persecution of heretics intensified and the Gnostics went underground and faded away.
I doubt you care about history as much as you care to accuse others of heresy... by "earliest manuscripts" I was referring to the original New Testament texts which were written in Aramaic. These are called the Aramaic Peshitta New Testament. And Aramaic is what Jesus and all his disciples spoke. This is what the Aramaic Peshitta New Testament said before being translated into Greek. Many people, obviously including you, don’t know what Aramaic Peshitta is, and think the original NT was written in Greek, but scholars know better. And this is what scholars of ancient semitic languages have been trying to tell us. This is what the Eastern Christian traditions, the Assyrians, the Chaldeans, the Amorites have reserved in their liturgies, meantime the Western church built an elaborate institution on mistranslations (and deliberate wrong translations).
that you were proven wrong on the Aramaic thing
You can't prove anything. You’re lucky intelligence isn’t measured in negative numbers.
How many times do I have to repeat myself? Gehenna is the Aramaic word that appears in the earliest manuscripts. The name Gehenna (or Gehennah) is an Aramaic word, contracted from ‘Ge Hinnom,’ i.e. Valley of Hinnom. The Himmon valley is an L-shaped downstream continuation of the Kidron valley, running immediately to the south and then west of the city walls of old Jerusalem. It is currently known as Wadi er-Rababeh. So, it's the Valley of Hinnom, a physical location just outside Jerusalem, which was the city's rubbish dump where fires burned continuously to consume waste. When Jesus warned about Gehenna, he was using a vivid metaphor that his audience would have instantly understood. He was talking about wasted lives.
Hell, as a word, did not come from the Bible. The word is Germanic in origin and is, ironically, tied to Norse mythology, as a goddess named Hel oversaw the dead in Norse myth. In ancient and early medieval mythology, it was common for the name of the deity of death to also be frequently used to describe the realm of the dead. You can find more details at the Historian's Hut.
Nag Hammadi did take it on itself to protect (and lose track of) a number of the alternative books, which very few others were able to do; yet this was not active suppression or rejection. (4) There were individuals who deprecated individual books in exactly the same way any opinion was raised against any book
Let me ask you a question. Do the Dead Sea Scrolls, or the Nag Hammadi texts, do they also include Matthew, Mark, Luke and John? the answer is No, the Nag Hammadi texts and the Dead Sea Scrolls do not contain the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. The Nag Hammadi Library, consists of 52 ancient texts written in Coptic, including the Gospel of Thomas, but none of the canonical Gospels. The Dead Sea Scrolls, found in the caves of Qumran, contain biblical, sectarian, and apocryphal texts, but not the Gospels of the New Testament.
According to experts the Gospels are generally considered to have been written after the Epistles, with the following approximate dates: Mark around 66 AD, Matthew 80–90 AD, Luke 100 AD, John 96 AD. In contrast, the Epistles to the Corinthians and Galatians are believed to have been written earlier, 1 Corinthians around 50 AD, Galatians around 50 AD. So, Paul wrote his letters or if his letters were published or written down, before the Gospels, 20 to 50 years before Matthew, Mark, Luke or John. Why would the Gospel of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, which claim to be the first person eyewitness accounts of the actions and sayings of Jesus, why on earth would they have been written down 20 to 50 years after the letters attributed to Paul were written down?
Paul remember, he was Jewish also. His name was Saul and he was a heretic hunter. He hunted down followers of Christ and other heretics according to the Sadducee official narrative. What the Sadducees thought was orthodoxy. So he worked for the Sadducees and anybody who challenged the Sadducees orthodoxy, and the Sadducees controlled the temple. So, really the whole Christianity is Paul's work. And the Gospels were written after Paul. There's no explanation for that other than the fact that they were written, because Paul (actually Rome) had this idea, or he was working with a whole bunch of sects that existed at the time, which he was persecuting. And Saul (Romans), started what has now become known as Christianity.
I see you didn't read the parable
All I can see is you don't know what you're talking about. Have you ever heard of the discoveries at Nag Hammadi in 1945? The soul moves through these layered realms, facing rulers and illusions until it remembers its origin in the eternal light. Instead of a simple heaven and hell cosmology, the Nag Hamadi texts unveil a multiverse, a structure of realities overlapping and interwoven in which your soul's journey is a process of ascent, awakening, and return.
Modern science is only just beginning to catch up with what these ancient mystics taught. speaking now of multiple dimensions, parallel universes, and hidden layers of reality we cannot yet perceive.
It's literally laid out by Christ
Jesus never used the word hell. The Aramaic word that appears in the earliest manuscripts is Gehenna. And Gehenna wasn't a spiritual concept at all. It was a physical location, the valley of Hinnom just outside Jerusalem. It was the city rubbish dump where fires burned continuously to consume waste. It was a place of decay, of transformation, of things being broken down and returned to their elements. When Jesus warned about Gehenna, he was using a vivid immediate metaphor that his audience would have instantly understood.
Jewish death cult manipulates the rest of humanity to be put in line
Correct. Throughout the four Gospels included in the NT, Jesus warns about hell, or so we're told. The English translations use words like hell, eternal fire, and everlasting punishment. These translations have terrified billions of people into compliance, created entire denominations built on fear of the afterlife and justified unspeakable violence in the name of saving souls from eternal torment.
But Jesus never used the word hell. The Aramaic word that appears in the earliest manuscripts is Gehenna. And Gehenna wasn't a spiritual concept at all. It was a physical location, the valley of Hinnom just outside Jerusalem. It was the city rubbish dump where fires burned continuously to consume waste. It was a place of decay, of transformation, of things being broken down and returned to their elements. When Jesus warned about Gehenna, he was using a vivid immediate metaphor that his audience would have instantly understood. He was talking about wasted lives. He was saying, “Don't throw your life away. Don't become rubbish.”. The Greek translators used Gehenna, maintaining the reference to this specific location. But by the time medieval translators got to it, disconnected from the geographic and cultural context, they transformed it into hell, a word borrowed from Norse mythology referring to hell, the realm of the dead.
The mistranslation was complete. A metaphor about wasting your life became a doctrine about eternal conscious torment. And here’s my point, no word in Aramaic corresponds to the modern Christian concept of hell. None. The language Jesus spoke didn't have a framework for eternal punishment. It had consequences. Yes, it had natural results of destructive behavior, but the idea of a loving God maintaining an eternal torture facility, that's not in the Aramaic. That came later. You could say this was accidental, but I don’t believe so. I think it was deliberate and done by some very clever people.
Avoid fast food, processed food
You can start fixing your health almost immediately, just stop using seed oils. They’re trying hard to convince all of us that industrial lubricants, such as sesame seed oil, are in some way a better, healthier, alternative to the natural fats our ancestors used for millennia.
The Rockefeller established and controlled system pushes these seed oils because they are incredibly cheap to produce and have an endless shelf life. They are generally more affordable compared to oils like avocado and olive oil, which can be up to three times the price. Seed oils are also versatile and have a long shelf life, which makes them popular in the food manufacturing industry. As long as the profit margins stay high, they don't care that these liquids are literally frying your metabolism.
Nobody takes my life from me. I lay it down with my own accord
Exactly. Jesus also said "I have cast fire upon the world, and see, I am guarding it until it blazes.".
Jesus revealed the hidden portal to the kingdom because he knew that humanity would need this knowledge in the exact time we're living in right now. The dimensional barriers are thinning. The portal is becoming easier to see than it's been in millennia. Those who are ready, those who are chosen are beginning to perceive it everywhere.
But my question is why are we here? and how do we defeat the Matrix?
I could give you an answer to this question, my opinion, but if you believe Jesus's death was the substitution/sacrifice for our sins, and salvation is by grace alone through faith in Jesus alone, as the Church teaches... then you will have a hard time relating to what I'm about to say. I believe Jesus was the prototype for a special mission. He wasn't a sacrifice to an angry god, Yahweh. He was a messenger sent into hostile territory to plant a virus of truth into the Matrix code. And some of us are the sleeper cells he left behind.
The chosen ones are those whose consciousness is already beginning to vibrate at that a higher frequency. Sometimes through trauma that shattered their ordinary perception. Sometimes through spiritual practice that raised their awareness. Sometimes through soul contracts made before birth, agreements to wake up in this lifetime and help others see the portal, too. You weren't chosen because you're superior. You were chosen because you volunteered. Before you incarnated, you agreed to be one of the ones who would see the portal, cross through it, and then help others find it. IMO, that's why we're here.
However, the moment you accept the mission and begin to raise your frequency, the matrix will notice. The simulation is designed to keep energy low, stable, and predictable. A state of homeostasis. When the spark inside of you starts to glow the system treats you like a virus, a foreign object that threatens the stability of the illusion. I'll call this the matrix immune response, but you could also call it agent Smith logic. The system will try to drag you back down.
So if you escape, they can't do this anymore plus your whole life goes from a mediocre one to a great one
Jesus said, "Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished and he will rule over all." - Gospel of Thomas.
This is Plato's allegory of the cave. It's a wonderful story told by Plato. The prisoner who escapes the cave and sees the real world with sunlight... At first, it's painful. It's confusing. The light blinds him. But if he persists, eventually he sees the truth. And then he returns to the cave with knowledge and wisdom that the other prisoners don't have. So the spiritual path is painful. It involves confusion and struggle. But if you persist, you will see reality as it truly is.
We live in the shadow world. So everything in the shadow world is only a imitation of the forms. Most of humanity is chained, watching shadows on the wall, believing the shadows are reality. You are the prisoner who managed to turn your head. You saw the fire. You saw the puppets casting the shadows. And once you see the mechanism of the illusion, you can never truly go back to watching the show like everyone else. The friction you feel in your life. That deep bone level exhaustion is not because you are broken. It is because you are a high-fidelity receiver trying to function in a low-fidelity world. This leads us to the most uncomfortable question. If you are from a higher frequency, why are you here?
I looked at all the classic discrepancies alleged in the Bible, and found that 100% of them rely upon assuming one knows better rather than looking into the culture to see if the person could have had a consistent meaning. The same is true of other holy books like the Quran
Personally, I don't need to look, I would expect discrepancies and errors in the Bible. Many different writers, most likely by people who never met Jesus, the books were written over a relatively long period of time, etc. As for translations, all the Bibles, every single one out there today require translation. Every single word you've read in the Bible is a translation. And every translation is an interpretation. And many are mistranslations. Some could not have been avoided, however many were deliberate. And I don't care how hard you try to convince me of the contrary, it won't work. I studied people all my life, I know how they work and behave. And I use critical thinking and know how to connect the dots.
Also, there are many misinterpretations. The Bible is hard to understand and in most cases requires some assistance. Just ask the jews. They have a tremendous respect for learning and for literacy. That said, there are certain problems with the tradition. The first is it's contradictory. When you read the Bible, it's always contradicting itself. It's almost schizophrenic. You could say it's very hard to pick out a definite message from the Bible. And that's why the oral tradition called the Oral Torah is actually much more important. And so Jews have to go to the synagogue all the time where the rabbi will explain to them the meaning of the Bible because if you read it by yourself, it's almost impossible to understand.
All the 19th-century skepticism against the Bible rejected the text as culturally transmitted and stood against it to fight it; in prior eras nobody could mass together to do that
Personally I'm more concerned about what's being omitted, as I said in the past. Let me give you an example. Take the two back-to-back statements of the Apostles Creed namely that Jesus was conceived by the Holy Ghost born of the Virgin Mary and that he was crucified died and was buried and on the third day he rose again from the dead. It is striking to me that this oldest and most foundational Christian Creed jumps from Jesus's birth to his death and Resurrection entirely skipping over his life. How did it happen that the way Jesus came into the world and how he left Christmas and Easter came to Define Christianity itself? where did this emphasis on the entrance and exit points of Jesus's heavenly existence come from? and how did it achieve such centrality even above that of Jesus's life and teachings?
Kabbalah... containing ten core attributes, the withdrawal of light and the divine spark, and the return of human superpowers, very much like gnosticism with its aeons. Its only problem is if it denies the nature of God while getting sidetracked with its human advancement
IMO, it has more than one problem. Just the fact that Kabbalah is studied and practised by so many world leaders today is a red flag for me. Also, I can't get a straight answer to any Kabbalah question from any of the popular AI engines out there. Like I said, I'm a very strong believer in connecting the dots. You may or may not be aware Donald Trump is a self-confessed kabbalist. Quote from his 2004 book 'The Way to the Top', page 188 "..my Kabbalah teacher, Eitan Yardeni..".
If it's not proven to someone that love is the way, the message doesn't click. Love requires both the spirit and the mind;
IMO, if you have to prove to any human being that love is the way, we've lost the war for Humanity. But, I do agree with you love it's a spiritual thing. That's why an AI robot, IMO, could never feel love. AI can pretend to feel love. AI can say, "I love you.". And if you challenge it to describe how love feels, AI can provide the best verbal description in the world. AI can read countless love poems and psychology books and can then describe the feeling of love much better than any human poet, psychologist or lover. But these are just words. In the Bible the spirit of love is much more important than the letter of the law. This tension between spirit and letter existed in every religion, every legal system, even every person. Now this tension will be externalized. It will become the tension not between different humans. This will be the tension between humans and AIs, the new masters of words.
If we read the Divine Comedy, Dante's categorical imperative is very simple. Love someone. Doesn't matter who, could be your wife, it could be your mother or it could be your child. It could be your best friend. But love that person and when you love that person then all these three things are true: do not manipulate people, do not use people, treat people with respect. It means you are now going to be your best. It means you are treating this person with respect. It means that you're choosing to love this person. So love is the unifying force of the universe. That's what Dante is really saying.
Didn't happen, fren. There's no Nicene action about the Scriptural canon.
Neither you nor I were alive in 325 AD, or the 4th and 5th century. And we both have to rely on what's being documented about these times and events. For instance when it comes to the Gospel of Thomas, I could say the same thing you often say "Don't know where you're getting that". According to Wikipedia "Assigning a date to the Gospel of Thomas is very complex because it is difficult to know precisely to what a date is being assigned (then why are you saying "it was dated 340", why not 339 or 341? I'm aware some have dated the Gospel of Thomas discovered at Nag Hammadi to 340 AD, but that's just picking a number out of the air). Scholars have proposed a date as early as 60 AD or as late as 140 AD"
And according to SacredTexts "We have two versions of the Gospel of Thomas today. The first was discovered in the late 1800's among the Oxyrhynchus Papyri, and consists of fragments of a Greek version, which has been dated to c. 200. The second is a complete version, in Coptic, from Codex II of the Nag Hammadi finds.".
But, me as a critical thinking person I'm asking "Why the Gospel of Thomas isn’t in the Bible?". And I think it's a reasonable question to ask in 2026 AD. Then as you say "The Gospel of Mary didn't circulate enough to get much notice from the church", my question is "Why not?". When archaeologists finally deciphered The Gospel of Mary Magdalene in 1896 when they could finally read the entire text they understood why the Vatican demanded it never see the light of day. Why? What was in the manuscript discovered in Cairo that so terrified the most powerful church in the world? What truth had to remain hidden at any cost? Because according to this lost gospel, Mary Magdalene wasn't a repentant prostitute. That was a lie invented centuries later. She wasn't a mere follower walking behind the apostles. That was a deliberate distortion of her true role. She wasn't who the church told us she was for 2,000 years. That was an unprecedented historical manipulation. She was the guardian of a secret. A secret Jesus revealed to her and only her. A secret the other apostles knew nothing about. A secret about how the human soul can become immortal. Mary Magdalene was in many of the texts found at Nag Hammadi the embodiment of that direct unmediated divine knowledge. In the Gospel of Mary, she shares visions with the disciples that they cannot comprehend. When Peter and the others argue, caught up in jealousy and fear. It's Mary who stands as a bridge, a voice of wisdom.
I'm all for going to all the sources, there's tremendous much in Egyptology for instance
I'll have to respond to the rest of your message some other time. I can't now. But, you're raising an interesting subject Egyptology.
The actual Greek for hearken or obey is hypakouo G5219
I know that. Just read carefully what I wrote "John seems to use active tense". Anyway, I don't want to discuss this any longer.
Ehrman is credentialed but not the guy you want for history as he has an axe to grind. However, if you choose to take his view against those who count Luke the most exact and accurate historian of the era
I don't judge or dismiss anyone, and that includes Bart Ehrman. And I don't care how many credentials one has. I'm interested in the message and Ehrman is absolutely correct here and many other places where he talks about obvious errors and contradictions in the Bible. That's exactly what I found on my own.
I don't really have an issue with you considering "Luke the most exact and accurate historian of the era", however, it's important to note that Luke's historical accounts include both solid data and imaginative reconstructions.
So did the kabbalists, who informed Talmudism
Since you mentioned kabbalists I'm curious to know your view on Kabbalah.
the message of Jesus can be proven without Luke, Acts, Paul, or Hebrews, if you like
Proving Jesus's message? why?
Like I said before Jesus came to teach a message of love and forgiveness and spiritual transformation. There's nothing to prove here. And who needs any proof anyway?
But unless there's evidence they were more inspired than Matthew, Mark, and John, I stick with the direct testimony of what Jesus said
And it doesn't matter what Thomas, Philip, Judas or Mary Magdalene had to say. Hmmm...
You say Matthew, Mark, and John, but I'm sure you mean Luke as well. This takes me back to the council of Nicaea in 325 AD, where Emperor Constantine and the bishops chose which gospels would be canonized and which would be hidden or destroyed. The alternative gospels, Gospel of Thomas a collection of sayings of Jesus given secretly to the apostles, those that gave Mary Magdalene her true power, The Gospel of Philip, The Gospel of Truth, The Gospel of the Egyptians and many more were rejected, their teachings suppressed for centuries. These gospels were branded heresy. Their wisdom was forbidden. And the memory blurred until only fragments remained. But those fragments, those forbidden lines and half buried stories, refuse to die.
There's no evidence church leaders suppressed
I'm getting used to this phrase, "there's no evidence". I've seen it so many times in your replies...
I'm trying to think of a way where a lower level of attention (by leaders who were regularly persecuted) somehow connotes active, official animus, and I don't see it. I do see that Constantine personally censored Arius in 325 as a civil matter, requiring his works to be burned up on pain of death, but Arius was no gnostic
Yes, Gnostics were subjected to censorship. However, it is known that efforts to destroy Gnostic texts were largely successful, resulting in the survival of very little writing by Gnostic thinkers and theologians. And yes, Gnostics were persecuted. Gnostic groups were often persecuted as a result of being declared a heresy. The response of orthodoxy to gnosticism significantly defined the evolution of Christian doctrine and church order. After gnostic and orthodox Christianity parted, Gnostic Christianity continued as a separate movement in some areas for centuries. There's no denial the persecution of Gnostics took place, for example, during the Inquisition and the Albigensian Crusade.
of course, Peter says Paul is Scripture
Okay. Since you brought up Peter tell me who do you think he was.
Personally I would like to talk about Mary Magdalene. She was not an outcast, as we were led to believe, but was Jesus's closest companion, the one he trusted most with his deepest teachings, the one Peter envied. We could talk about Peter some other time if you wish, I'm still curios on your pov. Mary Magdalene's name is almost always listed first among the women in the gospels, a subtle, powerful signal of her leadership. Just as Peter stands at the head of the male disciples, Mary is the one who leads among the women. Mary wasn't just a disciple, but a mirror for the divine feminine and perhaps one of the most important parts of this sacred story. A story they've quietly hidden from all of us. So why was she silenced? Why for generations did powerful forces work so hard to erase her legacy, twist her image, and bury her wisdom deep within layers of dogma and denial?
I don't believe is Jeffrey Epstein himself, entities controlled by him. But, at the end of day anything Epstein or any of his companies are involved in, must be evil.