Tikkun Olam = Repairing the world through TRANSHUMANISM
Where do you get your information from? The term “transhumanism” was coined by the English biologist Julian Huxley in 1957. The term Kabbalah refers specifically to the form of Jewish mysticism that became widespread in the Middle Ages. But, Kabbalah is an ancient tradition that is over 4,000 years old. And according to many scholars is the oldest religion.
according to your satanic babylonian book
I have no idea what this means, or where you're going with this.
Kabbalism is Gnosticism and the demiurge is a fake creator god that's identified as Saturn, Satan, Samael
Again where do you come up with this nonsense. Like all of the planets, Saturn is named after a character in Roman mythology... It wasn't until 1655, when Christiaan Huygens pointed his much more powerful telescope at Saturn and the planet was identified. The earliest I can trace the word Satan in English is to the 10th century. Gnosticism originated in the Hellenistic period, that means Gnosticism is approximately 2,000 years old. I quoted you directly from the Secret Book of John where it clearly says the Demiurge has three names: "The first name is Yaldabaoth, the second is Saklas, and the third is Samael." - John, the brother of James – who are the sons of Zebedee
Gnosticism comes straight out of the wicked Babylonian Mystery Schools that worship fallen entities as gods
Again, just more nonsense. And again what is your source for this accusation? for Gnostics Jesus Christ is seen as a spiritual messenger his purpose is to bring hidden knowledge that awakens Humanity to their divine nature guiding them toward liberation. Have you read any of the manuscripts discovered at Nag Hammadi? how about the Gospel of Thomas (Apostle Thomas)? For Gnostics Christ is a revealer of Truth. Gnosticism flourished in the early centuries of the Common Era alongside early Christians and it profoundly influenced Christian theology and philosophy particularly through its focus on inner enlightenment and spiritual transformation. However as Orthodox Christianity began to solidify its doctrines Gnosticism was declared heretical, the church fathers including Irenaeus and Tertullian condemned Gnostic teachings as dangerous deviations from the faith that both the Catholic Church and Rome agreed upon. In other words it didn't serve the imperial interests.
Gnostics don't see Jesus Christ as the almighty Creator in the flesh
Why would they? when Jesus's mission was of spiritual liberation, not creating a new religion. Jesus and Christ are not the same thing. Jesus was the man. Christ is the consciousness he achieved. Jesus became the Christ, but Christ consciousness existed before Jesus and remains available after Jesus. This isn't diminishing Jesus. It's understanding his true accomplishment. And Gnostics knew that.
The Church is telling you, don't listen to what actually Jesus teaches. Believe us, Jesus is God the "Creator in the flesh". And many people fall for it. What does this even mean? first thing, the Church made Jesus part of what they call the Trinity. Why? because the Jews believe Yahweh created this material world we live in. So, Jesus had to become God (Yahweh), although Jesus never said he was God. Trinity means God exists as three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. But these three are somehow also one God. Now this already is very confusing, because if Jesus is the Son of God, then how is he also God? And if he's both Son and Father, then what does that even mean? This is the kind of logical paradox that has caused theological debates for 2,000 years, and we still don't have a clear answer. So, remember before the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD, the first ecumenical council of the Christian Church, societies were paganistic or polytheistic. Then with emperor Constantine God became the Holy Trinity. The Holy Trinity is the weirdest idea in human history. The Holy Trinity is this God is nothing and everything. And what this means is God is both real and not real. God is a symbol and reality itself. And because of this idea, people are now forced to think abstractly about the world. And it gives rise to money, nation state and science. Serves perfectly the imperial interests and now the Church is an important part of the Empire. People are now forced to think abstractly about the world. Whereas people before could think very concretely about the world.
they follow false doctrines of demons according to the Holy Scriptures
After Jesus's death there were many groups and movements who considered themselves Christians, Gnostics being one of them. Not many people know that the first Christian state was not Catholic Rome, but a Gnostic one, Osroene, with its capital at Edessa in modern Turkey near the Syrian border. The Gnostic teacher, Bardesanes (or Bardaisan), converted King Abgar IX, who ruled 177-212. Bardesanes was credited by church fathers with inventing the Christian hymn and wrote 150 songs that were popular for generations. The most famous is the “Hymn of the Pearl,” a beautiful allegory of the soul being lost in the world and returning to God, found in The Acts of Thomas, an early 3rd century text. However, Roman empire made sure to use propaganda against Gnostics as heretics, which led Gnostics to be persecuted, killed and others to ran away. A small number of Gnostics survived such relentless persecutions. Once the Catholic faction received the official support of the Roman Emperor Constantine in 325, persecution of heretics intensified and the Gnostics went underground and faded away.
This is the kind of logical paradox that has caused theological debates for 2,000 years, and we still don't have a clear answer.
If we took a little effort to compare it to the paradoxes of what gnostics actually taught, your head would be spinning so fast you'd beg for the simplicity of diverse unity.
I accept that the church (I) must back out some significant language that we've encrusted onto the Scripture. I've done that. If you want to say Jesus never said he was God and is never called "Creator in the flesh", fine. That doesn't change who he is and who he said he is, which can be stated without any such language. I believe I linked you my article written as a concession to antitrinitarians, but I don't recall you commenting.
Do you believe the maxim of the law that the testimony of two or three is one? Because the Jews all knew this, and knew the concept of corporate unity, and their problem was not with those points. Millions of Jews accepted the Christian revelation in the first century, and millions of Jews rejected it on the grounds of fear that Jesus's apostles would upend their comfy synagogue lifestyles of sin. Jesus was not tried as an idolator but as a rabblerouser ("inciter").
The Holy Trinity is the weirdest idea in human history.
Coming from a gnostic who believes that a Monad emanated fifteen male-female dyads, the last female of which birthed an evil demiurge without marital support but also without sin, that's projection. I told you that idea was Egyptian and literally comes from Kek, but you continue to take it seriously.
All you need to do is admit that the Monad is incomprehensible as a pure monism and recognize that the point of the first emanation, Logos, is to reveal something equal in every way to the Monad except where they are poles on one spectrum. If you accept that much, you believe in unity and diversity as well as, or better than, many trinitarians who don't know what they believe.
If we took a little effort to compare it to the paradoxes of what gnostics actually taught, your head would be spinning so fast
I don't blame you for looking at the Gnostics teachings this way. Not many people wouldn't. Let's look at at the Gospel of Thomas. If your head doesn't spin it might be something wrong with you. Saying 7, "Jesus said, Lucky is the lion that the human will eat, so that the lion becomes human, and foul is the human that the lion will eat, and the lion will still become human.". This saying presents a paradox to illustrate a spiritual concept. The lion symbolizes the wild, bestial nature or the passions, while the human represents the higher, rational, and spiritual self. When the human eats the lion, the lower nature is consumed and transformed into the higher, a fortunate spiritual victory. Conversely, if the lion eats the human, the higher self is overcome and absorbed by the passions. This is a foul or wretched outcome, yet the text adds a twist. The lion will still become human, suggesting that even in this degradation, the divine spark within the human ultimately elevates the lower nature, though through a tragic process. Unfortunately most people have never heard of Gospel of Thomas. Or, rejected because their heads are spinning.
Millions of Jews accepted the Christian revelation in the first century, and millions of Jews rejected it
This may be an exaggeration on your part. According to Theodor Mommsen, in the first century CE there about 1,000,000 Jews in Egypt. The Census of David is said to have recorded 1,300,000 males over twenty years of age, which would imply a population of over 5,000,000. The number of exiles who returned from Babylon is given at 42,360. Tacitus declares that Jerusalem at its fall contained 600,000 persons; Josephus, that there were as many as 1,100,000, of whom 97,000 were sold as slaves. It is from the latter that most European Jews are descended. Also note there were many jews at that time who didn't care one way or another about Jesus.
I told you that idea was Egyptian and literally comes from Kek, but you continue to take it seriously
You told me a lot of things, keep telling me more. I read a lot, listen and watch a lot... but believe little. And I question everything, coming from everybody. Something I'm certain will never change in me.
All you need to do is admit that the Monad is incomprehensible as a pure monism
You see, I don't look at it this way. Not any more. For instance, why are we arguing about belief? take the Muslims, we all acknowledge that Abraham is our forefather and Abraham came before the Bible. He came before the OT and the NT. So why argue? You argue about things you know, but why do you argue about things you do not know? Allah knows and you do not know. Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian. But he was a monotheist, a Muslim. So this is what Muhammad is saying. A Muslim is someone who believes in God as the only true God. And that includes Jews and Christians and he was not of the polytheists.
Where do you get your information from? The term “transhumanism” was coined by the English biologist Julian Huxley in 1957. The term Kabbalah refers specifically to the form of Jewish mysticism that became widespread in the Middle Ages. But, Kabbalah is an ancient tradition that is over 4,000 years old. And according to many scholars is the oldest religion.
I have no idea what this means, or where you're going with this.
Again where do you come up with this nonsense. Like all of the planets, Saturn is named after a character in Roman mythology... It wasn't until 1655, when Christiaan Huygens pointed his much more powerful telescope at Saturn and the planet was identified. The earliest I can trace the word Satan in English is to the 10th century. Gnosticism originated in the Hellenistic period, that means Gnosticism is approximately 2,000 years old. I quoted you directly from the Secret Book of John where it clearly says the Demiurge has three names: "The first name is Yaldabaoth, the second is Saklas, and the third is Samael." - John, the brother of James – who are the sons of Zebedee
Again, just more nonsense. And again what is your source for this accusation? for Gnostics Jesus Christ is seen as a spiritual messenger his purpose is to bring hidden knowledge that awakens Humanity to their divine nature guiding them toward liberation. Have you read any of the manuscripts discovered at Nag Hammadi? how about the Gospel of Thomas (Apostle Thomas)? For Gnostics Christ is a revealer of Truth. Gnosticism flourished in the early centuries of the Common Era alongside early Christians and it profoundly influenced Christian theology and philosophy particularly through its focus on inner enlightenment and spiritual transformation. However as Orthodox Christianity began to solidify its doctrines Gnosticism was declared heretical, the church fathers including Irenaeus and Tertullian condemned Gnostic teachings as dangerous deviations from the faith that both the Catholic Church and Rome agreed upon. In other words it didn't serve the imperial interests.
Gnostics don't see Jesus Christ as the almighty Creator in the flesh, they follow false doctrines of demons according to the Holy Scriptures.
Why would they? when Jesus's mission was of spiritual liberation, not creating a new religion. Jesus and Christ are not the same thing. Jesus was the man. Christ is the consciousness he achieved. Jesus became the Christ, but Christ consciousness existed before Jesus and remains available after Jesus. This isn't diminishing Jesus. It's understanding his true accomplishment. And Gnostics knew that.
The Church is telling you, don't listen to what actually Jesus teaches. Believe us, Jesus is God the "Creator in the flesh". And many people fall for it. What does this even mean? first thing, the Church made Jesus part of what they call the Trinity. Why? because the Jews believe Yahweh created this material world we live in. So, Jesus had to become God (Yahweh), although Jesus never said he was God. Trinity means God exists as three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. But these three are somehow also one God. Now this already is very confusing, because if Jesus is the Son of God, then how is he also God? And if he's both Son and Father, then what does that even mean? This is the kind of logical paradox that has caused theological debates for 2,000 years, and we still don't have a clear answer. So, remember before the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD, the first ecumenical council of the Christian Church, societies were paganistic or polytheistic. Then with emperor Constantine God became the Holy Trinity. The Holy Trinity is the weirdest idea in human history. The Holy Trinity is this God is nothing and everything. And what this means is God is both real and not real. God is a symbol and reality itself. And because of this idea, people are now forced to think abstractly about the world. And it gives rise to money, nation state and science. Serves perfectly the imperial interests and now the Church is an important part of the Empire. People are now forced to think abstractly about the world. Whereas people before could think very concretely about the world.
After Jesus's death there were many groups and movements who considered themselves Christians, Gnostics being one of them. Not many people know that the first Christian state was not Catholic Rome, but a Gnostic one, Osroene, with its capital at Edessa in modern Turkey near the Syrian border. The Gnostic teacher, Bardesanes (or Bardaisan), converted King Abgar IX, who ruled 177-212. Bardesanes was credited by church fathers with inventing the Christian hymn and wrote 150 songs that were popular for generations. The most famous is the “Hymn of the Pearl,” a beautiful allegory of the soul being lost in the world and returning to God, found in The Acts of Thomas, an early 3rd century text. However, Roman empire made sure to use propaganda against Gnostics as heretics, which led Gnostics to be persecuted, killed and others to ran away. A small number of Gnostics survived such relentless persecutions. Once the Catholic faction received the official support of the Roman Emperor Constantine in 325, persecution of heretics intensified and the Gnostics went underground and faded away.
If we took a little effort to compare it to the paradoxes of what gnostics actually taught, your head would be spinning so fast you'd beg for the simplicity of diverse unity.
I accept that the church (I) must back out some significant language that we've encrusted onto the Scripture. I've done that. If you want to say Jesus never said he was God and is never called "Creator in the flesh", fine. That doesn't change who he is and who he said he is, which can be stated without any such language. I believe I linked you my article written as a concession to antitrinitarians, but I don't recall you commenting.
Do you believe the maxim of the law that the testimony of two or three is one? Because the Jews all knew this, and knew the concept of corporate unity, and their problem was not with those points. Millions of Jews accepted the Christian revelation in the first century, and millions of Jews rejected it on the grounds of fear that Jesus's apostles would upend their comfy synagogue lifestyles of sin. Jesus was not tried as an idolator but as a rabblerouser ("inciter").
Coming from a gnostic who believes that a Monad emanated fifteen male-female dyads, the last female of which birthed an evil demiurge without marital support but also without sin, that's projection. I told you that idea was Egyptian and literally comes from Kek, but you continue to take it seriously.
All you need to do is admit that the Monad is incomprehensible as a pure monism and recognize that the point of the first emanation, Logos, is to reveal something equal in every way to the Monad except where they are poles on one spectrum. If you accept that much, you believe in unity and diversity as well as, or better than, many trinitarians who don't know what they believe.
I don't blame you for looking at the Gnostics teachings this way. Not many people wouldn't. Let's look at at the Gospel of Thomas. If your head doesn't spin it might be something wrong with you. Saying 7, "Jesus said, Lucky is the lion that the human will eat, so that the lion becomes human, and foul is the human that the lion will eat, and the lion will still become human.". This saying presents a paradox to illustrate a spiritual concept. The lion symbolizes the wild, bestial nature or the passions, while the human represents the higher, rational, and spiritual self. When the human eats the lion, the lower nature is consumed and transformed into the higher, a fortunate spiritual victory. Conversely, if the lion eats the human, the higher self is overcome and absorbed by the passions. This is a foul or wretched outcome, yet the text adds a twist. The lion will still become human, suggesting that even in this degradation, the divine spark within the human ultimately elevates the lower nature, though through a tragic process. Unfortunately most people have never heard of Gospel of Thomas. Or, rejected because their heads are spinning.
This may be an exaggeration on your part. According to Theodor Mommsen, in the first century CE there about 1,000,000 Jews in Egypt. The Census of David is said to have recorded 1,300,000 males over twenty years of age, which would imply a population of over 5,000,000. The number of exiles who returned from Babylon is given at 42,360. Tacitus declares that Jerusalem at its fall contained 600,000 persons; Josephus, that there were as many as 1,100,000, of whom 97,000 were sold as slaves. It is from the latter that most European Jews are descended. Also note there were many jews at that time who didn't care one way or another about Jesus.
You told me a lot of things, keep telling me more. I read a lot, listen and watch a lot... but believe little. And I question everything, coming from everybody. Something I'm certain will never change in me.
You see, I don't look at it this way. Not any more. For instance, why are we arguing about belief? take the Muslims, we all acknowledge that Abraham is our forefather and Abraham came before the Bible. He came before the OT and the NT. So why argue? You argue about things you know, but why do you argue about things you do not know? Allah knows and you do not know. Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian. But he was a monotheist, a Muslim. So this is what Muhammad is saying. A Muslim is someone who believes in God as the only true God. And that includes Jews and Christians and he was not of the polytheists.