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CrazyRussian 2 points ago +2 / -0

And if you need longer period, I found it from same source for you: https://redata.jrc.ec.europa.eu/chart/timeseries/daily/UA33429 From 15 Apr to 15 May. Long enough for you?

How to get it - https://remap.jrc.ec.europa.eu/Simple.aspx On the map find Khmelnitsky, click on hexagon, wait, on the left panel Khmelnitsky item will appear, click on it, window with chart will appear.

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CrazyRussian 2 points ago +2 / -0

I need to be able to see over a much longer period to be able to speculate. On current conflict and prior for months.

I think they have that info, may be behind paywall.

My assumption is that natural variations are caused by changes in space weather, so nearby towns will show same change at the same time if change is natural. They does not. Also, daily variations are daily, so they don't last longer than day. Also, it is much more probable that you will see sharp rise from average with following staying at that level in case of accident. And if you suggest that there was previous accidents and they are regular, then background level in that area before the accident will not be equal to towns nearby. Backround easily could rise sharply due to accident, but it can't fall in the same manner, it is a long process. And background level jumps from previous consequent accidents will accumulate, so you have no chance to see exactly same level in that are as in nearby towns.

So, week of data with sharp rise in the middle is more than enough to make some conclusions if sensor is function normally and data is not manipulated.

Incased shells don't give that reading. Not into the atmosphere.

Easy test for you for ~$1. Buy a 2% thoriated tungsten welding electrode or ask for a short remainder of such if you have a welder among friends. Thorium undergo alpha-decay, but it decays into other elements that have noticeable gamma emissions. So it will have very low gamma radiation, adding something like 0.05-0.1 uSv/h to your background in close proximity. Then put it in steel box. Wait a year. You will find that box will become slightly radioactive too, may be 0.02uSv/h over background. Longer exposure will give higher radioactivity of casing. You know, all that high energy alpha, beta and gamma do nasty things with innocent elements sometimes making radioactive isotopes from them.

As for "into atmosphere" big amount of slighlty radioactive material will emit much more gamma-quants around, so you will register them on relatively large distances. If you have a coal powerplant around - ride to it with geiger counter. Coal ash is slightly radioactive, and working coal powerplant have higher radiation level than working nuclear power plant due to heaps of coal ash nearby. You will register higher radiation levels few miles from ash storages of power plant. And it is not in atmosphere, because in that case you will have higher background at much longer distances. It is heaps of ash have a lot of decays and some of their gamma-quants have a higher chance to reach your detector.

You're speculating it was munitions.

I clearly stated that it is my speculation. What's the problem? Any speculation is good enough if it fits observations. Your speculation about some new manufacturing process that started in Khmelnitsky exactly day before explosion that needs radioactive materials in so big amounts that they are detectable from a distance (?) is not different at all and rises much more questions.

But how abnormal is it?

Sudden rising of background after few days of low background and staying at rised level for few days is abnormal. Usually it is a clear pattern of some accident with radioactive material.

Again, I told you that I'm not exclude sensor malfunction or local contamination, next few days will show if that is a case. If it was an accident that level will stay for a long time. If it was a malfunction or local contamination you will see abnormal sharp drop in background level.

Or that information is just manipulated for whatever reason.

IDK. If you will measure body temperature for a week and suddenly in the middle it will rise from 36.6°C to 38.2°C - will you need a full history of body temperature for years before or it will be enough for you to make some assumptions without full-scale statistics research?

The shape of curve change is suspicious, not amount of change or its absolute value.

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CrazyRussian 2 points ago +2 / -0

Who knows what caused the readings?

Nobody, except stuff who service it. But if it works OK and shows real current background, than it is an interesting phenomena.

The readings aren't particularly accurate, they are reading what exactly, looking for signatures of precisely what compounds?

No, they usually vary during days and seasons, but usually, if you had background level at one average for a long time and suddenly that average changed, it is a sign of either sensor malfunction, either sensor contamination (somebody put a vintage vase from uranium glass near, or trashed old smoke detector near), either change in background level.

Also, towns around have no such change at all, so it is not solar/space radiation change - you could choose "Area radius" on the top of that window and add other nearby towns graphs to the plot.

Will see, if background will continue to stay at the new level, then with high probability some incident with lightly radioactive materials happened.

Perhaps it is created by industry? Or involved in certain production of?

May be. Or with same probability it could be delivery and extermination of that DU shells in warehouse.

I really didn't think ammo produced this because it's incased.

Not necessary. If it is some old things, then case will become radioactive too from the inner core. The ton of old DU shells will have same effect as ton of uranium ore. If you bring a ton of uranium ore into the town, then background in the area around the storage will slightly rise.

So it would have to be production, or let's suggest detonation, or an exhaust?

In any case that looks like something radioactive appeared day before, then was destroyed. It can't be nuclear explosion or some serious accident with powerful nuclear material, and represent no any health danger.

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CrazyRussian 2 points ago +2 / -0

Increase of gamma readings happened day before the explosion. I found source of data with more detailed graph - https://conspiracies.win/p/16b6IK81EE/x/c/4TtrbKs7van

And there is no any reason for panic at all. 0.15uSv/h is perfectly safe. It is just an interesting observation that could confirm the theory that DU shells was in Khmelnitsky warehouse if that data from REMon sensor in Khmelnitsky is true.

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CrazyRussian 3 points ago +3 / -0

Stop shouting they're nukes

I didn't. Nuke explosions have no habit to produce radiation rise day before blast and drop right after the blast. :) Also they produce much larger levels in proximity to the blast than that tiny 0.06 uSv/h change, that will be definitely noticed by residents, because geiger counters are relatively popular home appliances in exUSSR after Chernobyl disaster.

Did you read my comment with details?

Or you just missed with answer to that comment - https://conspiracies.win/p/16b6IK81EE/x/c/4TtrbPUF30b ?

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CrazyRussian 1 point ago +1 / -0

It uses some strange units - CPM, may be "Counts Per Minute", looks weird for me, because different radiation sensors have different CPM value per uSv/h or uR/h for different radiation sources. It heavily depends on the sensitivity and size of the geiger tube or scintillation sensor and used to calculate measured radiation level from number of particle detection pulses per minute. Looks like radiation level in CPM is something adjusted to CPM of some standard sesnsor.

Searched a little, some sources state that 1uSv/h is 120 CPM with Cs137 source standard, some state that it is 108 CPM with Co60 source standard.

So anything higher ~60 CPM (0.5uSv/h) should be cause of concern, anything higher than ~360CPM ( 3uSv/h like during plane flight) is a reason to move out.

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CrazyRussian 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nuclear weapons detonations gives completely another curve in radiation level change.

Radiation level does not rise day before nuclear detonation, and fall at the moment of detonation, it rises seriously at exact moment of detonation and then decline, fast initially, when short-living isotopes decay, slowly later, leaving some noticeably rised background.

Pavlograd and Ternopol sensors show nothing suspicious at all, only Khmelnitsky sensor data looks suspicious. You could check that by yourself.

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CrazyRussian 2 points ago +2 / -0

The thing is that if you had average background at 0.09 for a long time and then it suddenly become 0.15 and stay so, this could mean that something happened, despite background is still pretty normal.

Background could vary depending on space weather, but that variations are not permanent and rarely last longer than day. Also, variations in cosmic rays activity influence background radiation levels in wide area, not only in single town.

Again, this change is small and safe, but coincidence of such changes with weapons warehouse blasts attracted my attention.

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CrazyRussian 5 points ago +5 / -0

No. It is from old European radiology monitoring network installed years after Chernobyl disaster.

It definitely could be used in a false flag, so everything coming from that source should be taken with a grain of salt.

It is just an easily accessible radiation monitoring service, where I found something interesting, that is too small to be a reason for any false flag, because 0.15uSv/h is nothing, it is less than average background in a lot of places on the Earth not connected with anything nuclear at all, but that change from one safe level to another perfectly safe level is interesting. Also, those who interested could track changes to see if level will fall in next days or will stay at that level for a long time.

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CrazyRussian 3 points ago +3 / -0

Source: https://remap.jrc.ec.europa.eu/Advanced.aspx

It is some European radiation monitoring service. Find Khmelitsky town in Ukraine and click on dot to see data from screenshot.

What's interesting. Radiation level rised a little, from 0.09 to 0.15 uSv/h at May 11-12 night. It stayed on that level up to that enormous blast at May 12-13 night, then dropped and when secondary explosions stopped and dust settled it rised again.

Level is nothig to worry about at all, Many European towns have higher levels as a norm, 0.15 uSv/h is perfectly safe.

However it could be speculated that something radioactive was brought to Khmelnitsky warehouse at the May 11-12 night and was blown at May 12-13 night. Dust from the blast temporary shielded sensor for some time and when it settled along with radioactive contaminants, sensor again catch level even slightly higher than previously that could be the sign that radioactive materials dispersed over area after the blast.

It is a pure speculation, and changes from 0.09 to 0.15 uSv/h could be from many other reasons, but coincidence is not always mean that there is no casuation.

If speculate further, that British shells with depleted uranium was brought to Khmelnitsky warehouse and next day it was blown up.

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CrazyRussian 2 points ago +2 / -0

The same is for all other countries. Very recognizeable pattern of popping out different "movements" that never did anything except giving authorities excuses to tigten the screws.

So yes, this guys, like many others are created, branded and advertised via MSM for public by somebody who have control over MSM.

However, in most cases when political activity was successfull there was no any distinct named "movements". Even US induced coups around the world have some "movements" only as a secondary participants or in best case proxies to provide US financial/propaganda support to the main unnamed force. The main force that do the real stuff always was hidden, unnamed and disguised in public opinion as "woke citizens", "protesters" or something similar.

Another example - all that parent protests against child grooming in schools. They have no named "movement" too. As soon as such movement will appear with name and MSM talks it will mean that real protest was successfully hijacked and tunneled to something needed for authorities.

Scientists who opposed coronahoax - also have no any "movement", unlike all that named organisations and funds who pushed coronahoax crap.

It is an interesting phenomena rarely noticed by anybody. "Movement" with recogniseable name is an obvious red flag.

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CrazyRussian 2 points ago +2 / -0

Telegram didn't go underground it ignored local laws assisting users to circumvent them and hugely enlarged its userbase.

Size of userbase is the only thing that matters for profit in case of "everything app" too.

If Musk really "wants to make Twitter the everything app", then he have to enlarge its userbase, and by abiding local laws like European or Turkish or whatever he hugely shrink it.

Bank accounts and such have nothing to do with "everything app". Musk already played with Dogecoin and perfectly know that he don't need to be legit anywhere outside USA to creale working financial system for his "everything app" that will be resistant to any local regulations and so will attract even more users and even tunnel noticeable part of money traffic from local instutions to his "everything app".

Durov was not able to start his TON payment project only because US SEC didn't allow him to do that and he account US as his base jusrisdiction. He didn't give any fuck about legality in any other jurisdiction where Telegram is working (i.e. all other jusrisdictions, even those where Telegram is officially banned) at all.

Turkey authorities and legislators have nothing to do with Twitter jurisdiction, so absolutely nothing from that side could be a reason for Musk to refuse to add more users in Turkey.

So censoring political stuff at Turkey request is not about anything connected with "everything app" at all. It just could not be. More likely it was an order from his handlers.

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CrazyRussian 2 points ago +2 / -0

What's wrong with Heil Hitler memes and Mein Kampf quotes?

How that differ from Baruch Goldstein and Kitsur Shulhan Aruch f.e.?

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CrazyRussian 6 points ago +6 / -0

Interesting, why any movement always have some name?

If I have to organize a movement for whatever reason, the name will be the lastest thing I will think about, and with high probability I'll avoid and prohibit any naming at all, just to make things much more complex for rivals.

Weird.

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CrazyRussian 1 point ago +1 / -0

May be white, and may be supremacists, but not shure about exactly white supremacists. Reptiloids supremacists? That is why they needed hoods?

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CrazyRussian 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don't care about Musk, he is not the first and not the last in a long line of all that oligarchs. Brin&Page also declared "do not be evil" and everything, f.e., but all of them come to the same.

I'm more interested in what is really behind his actions, than about his lies. If you know how they controlled by their masters, you know how to defeat them.

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CrazyRussian 2 points ago +2 / -0

Don't know about the heed for hood, but it definitely need some serious repair under the hood. :)

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CrazyRussian 4 points ago +4 / -0

He said he had to suppress one candidate as was requested by Turkish Gov or else they would turn off all of Twitter.

It's a complete bullshit.

When in Russia Telegram was banned, Durov (Telegram owner and creator) just updated app to use proxies and VPNs. So, Telegram continued to work without any significant problems and even gained more popularity not only in Russia, but in many other countries too. Today, Telegram in Russia is not banned and I think it is even more popular than Whatsapp or Viber or whatever, among all that crappy centralized survellance shit.

Musk could do the same without any problems at all, since he have much more resources than Durov had. And gain some more users on that.

All that centralized messengers/social networks/etc use their userbase as a source of profit for owners. From selling data collected from user smartphones, to taking enormous loans using userbase as a pledge. Twitter is no different from Telegram or other messengers/social in the way userbase is monetized.

So Musk is just lying about real reasons behind that decision.

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CrazyRussian 3 points ago +3 / -0

First, it's much older than the 70s, the foundational science that we "know" today hasn't changed in any foundational way in closer to a century.

I think that happened when quantum mechanics got its final form.

then new theories are added on to patch the foundational theory back together in order to explain the discrepancy.

Exactly. Like the main goal is to preserve theories that selected as dogmas at any cost.

And if newtonian mechanics and quantum mechanics are at least practically useful models, all that relativity, particle physics and cosmology even don't have any practical usefulness, but somehow specificaly that areas got most financing with condition to keep dogmas intact. That does not make any sense from the merit point of view, but perfectly fit an assumtion that elites do everything to stop any useful science and technology progress.

Now we have 3 models of physics; astrophysics, newtonian, and quantum each of which are incompatible with the others.

And numerous, sometimes nearly insane extensions like string theory with only goal to keep everyting unchanged.

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CrazyRussian 5 points ago +5 / -0

Meanwhile, that's just how science supposed to work. There is a theory, there is observations that does not match the prodictions of theory, then this wrong theory have to be trashed and a new theory have to be developed.

Wrong theories is completely normal thing in science. There was a lot of theories that was proved wrong by observations that contradicted theories predictions. New theories was developed that better match and better explain observations.

Big Bang, Standard Model and all that stuff are not dogmas, it is just a theories. They should be changed to fit new observations or thrown out and replaced with new theories. It is not theories that is the core of science, it is observations and experiments. Theory is just a model of observed universe stated in the language of mathematics. Model could not be more imortant than observations and experiments.

And if some theory is wrong that does not mean that "everything is a lie". Wrong theory is just a bad model of the universe. Disproving some theory does not zero everything we know about the world around us.

The question with theories is why elites created conditions when scientists can't really perform that scientific iterations with theories, disproval, better theories and so on. And when theory become more "important" than observations and experiment results. There are no grants for anything that contradicts theories elites stuck with for whatever reason as "mainstream" at some point of time, presumably around 1970. I think it is an integral part of elites plan to completely stop humanity technological progress.

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CrazyRussian 4 points ago +4 / -0

Not we, but them. Kakistocracy is their way, normal people trying to survive have to use meritocracy, at least to some extent,

They will get dumber and dumber and dumber, and it depends on what they will do sooner - burn the world or forget how to breath and eat.

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CrazyRussian 3 points ago +3 / -0

Its basically a cargo cult at the CIA now.

It could be even a cargo cult of a cargo cult. And that's not only about CIA. It's everywhere. Along with kakistocracy this makes all politics in clown world.

Serioulsy, it is not just those who totally believe in elites lies are running the world now, it is already next iteration. They religiously believe in complete absurd produced by imbeciles who was mindfucked earlier.

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CrazyRussian 2 points ago +2 / -0

This exact style of background decorations are widely used on Russian TV when something like interviews with officials happens. Or for news. In very close manner, just random pictures - https://cdn-st1.rtr-vesti.ru/vh/pictures/xw/349/038/4.jpg , or say https://static.1tv.ru/uploads/video/material/splash/2023/05/10/795232/_original/795232_88cd7b4b96.jpg

I imagined "Patriotic US decorations" quite different, like something more resembling US flag, stars, may be eagles, IDK.

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