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ApexVeritas 2 points ago +2 / -0

From what I've seen him say, he says he's not a flat earther, he just doesn't believe the NASA moon landings.

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ApexVeritas 2 points ago +2 / -0

Y'all are making the mistake that globohomo is monolithic. Yes, they're similar, but they're not the same. To tackle a problem, you must first understand it and define it. There are several tiers to the globohomo currently going on. There's the low tier, comprising the useful idiots who have been brainwashed by the propaganda, who believe it and espouse it. Then there's the middle tier, the people who know what's going on, who carry out the plans of those above them. They're driven mostly by greed, because they can make a lot of money getting in on the ponzi scheme, when all sectors are taken over and working together against the people. Then there's the top tier, the string pullers, and as best as I can tell, they're driven primarily by a wish to control people. They can and do make money, but it's not their main pursuit.

The top tier string pullers are the kinds of people who are so rich that getting more money does nothing for them. They have differing methods in how they try to control people, but the end pursuit is always the same, control. They do it through infiltration and manipulation of schools, news, movies, TV, gaming, big companies and organizations spanning all manner of sectors, governments, politicians, medicine, and so on. I'm sure there are some that would love to kill off huge swaths of the population (Georgia Guidestones), but I imagine most of the top tier string pullers don't, they just want more control.

Look at their tactics. They gained control of the media and schools to control how we think. They manipulate movies, TV, comics, and gaming to control how we think. They write history to control how we think. They even use the truth as a form of control, by telling us what they want us to know, but not what they don't want us to know. They've done so well in manipulating our thoughts that most people now would happily relinquish their freedoms and liberties for temporary safety, all the while they were the ones that caused most of the problems in the first place. If we speak out against them, they censor us, not to hurt us, but to maintain control over everyone else still plugged in. They want to ban guns because it gives us a way to fight back against their control; they want monopolization of force in the hands of the government that they control. They manipulate markets and currencies to control our wealth. They locked down the economy during Covid to destroy small businesses, which makes us easier to control. They destroy the economy and middle class because poor people are easier to control. They create divides in society, real and manufactured, to keep people fighting amongst themselves, because doing so maintains their control. They don't cure people via pharmaceuticals and medicine because sick people are easier to control. They poison us via food, water, and medicine, because weak people are easier to control. They destroyed the family unit, because single people are easier to control. They attacked the role of men in society, because men are harder to control. With the Covid episode, the fear porn, the lock downs, social distancing, face masks, vaccines, are all meant to control people, to make us do what they want, giving them more power and control over us. And so on, and so on.

The top tier view us as their personal slaves and cattle. They're fine with killing us, especially if we try to fight back, but their primary motivation is to control us.

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ApexVeritas 3 points ago +4 / -1

Bacterial pneumonia caused by wearing dirty masks also contributed to the Covid numbers.

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ApexVeritas 5 points ago +5 / -0

I'm sure most here already know this, but here's some info I've come across over the last year proving cloth face masks are useless at stopping a viral respiratory infection, including Covid-19.


https://www.sott.net/article/434796-The-Science-is-Conclusive-Masks-and-Respirators-do-NOT-Prevent-Transmission-of-Viruses

The above link goes into detail why face masks don't work, and uses several scientific studies (done before Covid politics got involved) proving it from several different angles. Summary of the link:

1.) Most studies and articles saying that face masks are effective at stopping viral respiratory infections are biased and intentionally lying, telling half truths, for instance, that masks do reduce larger droplets from being released into the air. They fail to mention that face masks don't stop the smaller droplets, which are far more numerous, by percentage contain most of the viral load, and just 1 of those small droplets can lead to infection.

2.) Most unbiased studies show masks offer no benefit to preventing viral respiratory infection.

3.) Contagiousness of disease is based mostly on air humidity. The drier the air, the more infectious a disease becomes, which is why more people get sick during winter (less humidity) and fewer during summer (more humidity), and also why more people get sick inside, because central A/C and heaters reduce the humidity of the air inside. It's unknown why this occurs.

4.) Surgical cloth masks, and even the better N95 masks, don't stop air droplets less than 2.5μm.

5.) Just 1 air droplet of 2.5μm easily has enough viral load to cause a respiratory infection. As a surprise to no intelligent person, virions/viruses are really really small.

6.) 64% of the total viral load given off by a sick person comes from droplets 2.5μm and smaller, which means masks don't stop the particles with most of the viral load released via breathing, talking, coughing, or sneezing.

7.) Air droplets 2.5μm and smaller are not removed from the air by gravitational forces, and can remain in the air for hours. Deducing beyond the link, this means even mild air currents can spread a virus far enough to make the source of the spread difficult to identify.

8.) Exposure to virally contaminated air for even a short time (an hour in the relevant study), results in multiple times the minimum infective dose to cause infection.

9.) At the time of writing of this article (April 20th 2020), it's unknown the negative effects of mask use, which could easily be more detrimental than not using them, considering probable bacterial growth on the mask from repeated use leading to other infections, and increased aerosolization of larger viral laden droplets stopped by the mask that can then be spread. We now know that face mask usage is leading the bacterial pneumonia infections, among other things.


Even if the above is up for debate, lets analyze the evidence of face mask use so far.

https://townhall.com/columnists/scottmorefield/2020/12/21/new-study-shows-mask-mandates-had-zero-effect-in-florida-or-nationwide-but-the-l-n2581879

This article discusses the effectiveness of face mask usage by county in Florida, and by state in the U.S., comparing those that required face masks versus those that didn't. The counties and states that required face masks actually had a higher number of Covid-19 cases per capita than those that didn't, even when accounting for population density. This means that face masks are worse than useless, they actually increase disease transmission, if the official Covid-19 numbers can be believed.


The U.S. military concluded the same thing.

https://www.aier.org/article/even-a-military-enforced-quarantine-cant-stop-the-virus-study-reveals/

This article details a study by the U.S. Navy, using 1848 new Marine recruits, where they tested the effectiveness of all the actions taken thus far (not including vaccines) at attempting to slow the spread of Covid-19. The recruits were isolated to prevent outside influences. They used 6 foot social distancing, wore 2 face masks, quarantined the sick (even those that had a positive test result but were asymptomatic), did temperature checks, didn't use items that could increase spread by touch, sanitized all surfaces after every use, etc., and given the military setting they were much more stringent than people in any normal civilian setting. The study showed that the 1,848 Marines in the study had a higher infection rate than the general population.


As a last nail in the coffin, look up what people wear when they're working with deadly contagions, like those in the military that deal with biological weapons, or doctors studying these diseases in heavily controlled laboratories. It most certainly isn't a cloth face mask.

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ApexVeritas 0 points ago +1 / -1

Can't tell if sarcastic or serious.

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ApexVeritas 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thanks for the post. I'd really appreciate it if you come across any other people like this to also post about it. Since we can't trust the mainstream anything anymore we have to rely on each other to keep informed, and every bit helps.

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ApexVeritas 4 points ago +4 / -0

I noticed it as well for the last few years: the propaganda, bot activity, and shilling about pushing the pro-vaccine narrative, and shitting on anti-vaxxers. It was low effort and obvious as hell. When I used to venture through r/all I'd come across 1-5 vaccine propaganda posts per day with just moderate scrolling for 10-15 minutes. All of the anti-vax posts took the dumbest people they could find, with the dumbest statements, and lit the straw man on fire while they collectively danced around the flames, swelling with empty joy and over-enflated conceit with their hollow victory, while simultaneously censoring and downvoting anyone who went against their narrative. Pathetic doesn't even come close to describing it.

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ApexVeritas 7 points ago +7 / -0

Thanks for the screenshots. I've heard very similar first hands accounts from others. However, with the virtue signaling from some of these dumbasses going through these adverse symptoms, and still saying they're going to get follow up shots, and encourage others to do so, I almost empathize with the string pullers that are doing this to cull the population. These people are incomprehensibly stupid. If we were living closer to nature like we should be, mother nature would kill these idiots off quickly.

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ApexVeritas 1 point ago +1 / -0

There's another option: 3.) Prion disease spread from vaccinated to unvaccinated.

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ApexVeritas 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's just more evidence that the philosophical values of the left are antithetical to traditional western values, are logically wrong and inconsistent, and destroy society. The inversion of what is logical and true by the left's values has been a steady corruption for decades. This is just another facet: that justice is no longer blind. It's been that way for a while; many who pay attention should already know this. It's just getting more blatant.

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ApexVeritas 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's also a reversal on a foundational philosophic principle of society: no one is legally obligated to help others, and it is each person's responsibility for their own safety, because to otherwise so would make everyone a slave. Being considerate of others and helping others isn't inherently wrong, but government requiring you to do so definitely is. It's the same difference between charity and taxation.

With the mask mandate, they've reversed this principle, now saying it is everyone's responsibility to provide for the safety of others. It's a purely communist ideal, treating people as a collective, and enforcing altruism on everyone, when altruism itself is self destructive at every level.

Who gets the power to decide what we all must do to provide "safety" to others? The government and corporations (that are in bed with the government), of course. It gives anyone with petty tyrant tendencies the opportunity to lord over others (politicians, mayors, judges, governors, LEOs, social media virtue signalers, everyday mask Nazis). The Supreme Court already ruled that this is wrong, stating that police officers aren't legally obligated to help people. I'd guess that most people don't make this connection or why it's wrong, and those in power, if they do make the connection, will never mention it for fear of losing their new power. With the reversal of this foundational principle, it allows for every dystopian dictate under the sun. Mandatory vaccines? They can now be enforced. Mandatory hazmat suits? They can now be enforced, but they won't because it would fuck with their Covid propaganda. Increased taxation and welfare bloat? Absolutely.

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ApexVeritas 10 points ago +10 / -0

This definitely lends credence to the theory that Covid-19 was genetically engineered, or the vaccines were made in an attempt to cull the population. This sounds a lot like prion disease spread.

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ApexVeritas 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'm sure most of y'all here know that the string pullers use shills and AI comment bots to manipulate people with what they're reading. Reddit is a prime example. I've read numerous comments from "people" on Reddit in the curated posts that specifically mentioned "cytokine storm(s)". It looks like they've known this for a while and have been trying to get in front of it via manipulation.

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ApexVeritas 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's an interesting observation and connection.

I've been studying the philosophical failings of modern/western civilization, and your point touches on a few of the big ones. One is the push to promote the feminine (in this context feelings/hedonism/lust/beast) over the masculine (in this context truth/logic/perfectionism/divine). The other is the promotion that the meaning of life is happiness (feelings) rather than self betterment and pursuit of perfection (logic/divine). This is a really condensed version of my current writings, so please let me know if you'd like me to expand on anything.

The fundamental differences between men/masculine and women/feminine was brought on by evolutionary biology, dividing roles between the sexes to increase efficiency, specializing in those roles to increase efficiency even further, and when men and women come together they form a complete human (similar to how the Bible describes it). Men specialized in dangerous tasks, hard labor, and leaving the home, evolving to fit that role. Men who prioritized truth, logic, and reason above all else were more likely to succeed in their role, as protectors and providers, and less likely to die, meaning they were more likely to find a mate and pass on their genetics. Women specialized in procreation, child rearing, home keeping, and care giving, evolving to fit that role. Women who prioritized life, empathy, and emotion above all else were more likely to succeed in their role, as mothers and caregivers, meaning they more likely to attract a strong mate and pass on their genetics. This is the fundamental reason why men are generally more logical and women generally more emotional.

However, one must hold priority over another, thus, truth must hold priority over life. It should be easily surmised that when life is prioritized over truth, truth is the first casualty, and life the second. The oddity, then, is that the promotion of life above all else inevitably leads to death. This is the reason why the natural state of any stable human community is always patriarchal. Feminists equate this with women being subservient, not realizing it comes from a foundational requirement of priorities, and the roles the two genders fulfill in regards to those priorities. Expanding further, the formation of the universe itself requires that truth be formed first (numbers, equations, the rules of nature, physics, chemistry, etc., both in terms of positive truths and negative truths), and only once this is done can life be created and prosper (aligning to truth). Thus, prioritizing the feminine over the masculine is quite literally an undoing of creation, becoming the most perfect form of destruction.

From what I can tell, this is being intentionally pushed, quite vigorously, in almost every area of society. When you see it, and the signs of, it becomes obvious, and it's everywhere. Clearly the string pullers are doing this intentionally. The question then becomes why? Are they idiots, not realizing that this philosophical reversal leads to mass misery and death, or do they know and that's the reason why they're doing it? I think it's a bit of both, because promotion of the feminine makes people easier to manipulate and control. Just look at all the arguments for more government and dystopian nightmares is coming from: logically fallacious arguments like appeals to emotion, appeals to authority, "if it saves just one life", "you're killing grandma if you don't put on the mask/pay the taxes/vote for more welfare/expand government", "give up your guns for the safety of others", "get the vaccine or you don't care about your neighbors". All of the above arguments are illogical, meaning they're not based on truth, but they're quite at home among those who prioritize feelings first. If truth was prioritized first, these arguments would be shot down immediately and wouldn't catch on.

In any case, the string pullers are evil explicitly because they don't prioritize truth first (in all that it entails through examination of philosophy, morality, virtues, etc.). In fact, they are the enemies of truth. They deceive, manipulate, distort, censor, tell half-truths, and outright lie just so they gain more power and wield it over others. It is the best way to spot them. What they don't realize is that they've already lost. Truth is eternal and unchanging, being opposed to it, either in thought, word, or action means it's already failed. They just don't know it yet, because of the position they've put themselves in, in their lust for power.

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ApexVeritas 9 points ago +9 / -0

It's hard to know because vaccine injuries, names, health details, court info, and potential rewards for damages are all intentionally kept hidden, most people aren't told that this stuff can be caused by vaccine injury, and talking about it is being manipulated, censored, and suppressed.

I would imagine these kinds of reaction symptoms do take place with other vaccines, but to a lesser extent based on word of mouth.

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ApexVeritas 2 points ago +2 / -0

Virologists (not the retard mainstream ones) were talking about this when this bullshit kicked off March last year. Viruses naturally mutate to become less deadly and more infectious, so they're more likely to spread and not kill their host. That is of course depending on if Covid-19 is even real, when there's a healthy amount of evidence to cast doubt.

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ApexVeritas 1 point ago +1 / -0

I've heard a lot of people say Alex Jones is a shill/honeypot/disinfo agent for a long time, but it rings completely hollow because he, and every other person on the being accused of the same, are all being censored, deplatformed, attacked, and having their lives ruined by the mainstream goliath. If they truly were what you say they are, they wouldn't be censored into oblivion.

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ApexVeritas 5 points ago +5 / -0

Fuck that. I won't take it. I'll stack bodies if they try to force it. I'll also convince those around me to not take it too.

This is one of those lines they can't cross with me.

by gunteh
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ApexVeritas 2 points ago +2 / -0

By your definition, I'm a pessimist too, but more accurately I think I'm just a realist. The problems have grown so numerous and so large, that to correct all of them would take so much effort and violence as to be either impossible or horrific. However, all of us in opposition to this insanity don't have to do anything to defeat it, because everything built upon lies ultimately defeats itself. All we have to do is wait. Unfortunately, we're all stuck in the thick of it (more or less) with the rest of these idiots that pushed us into this mess.

If we were closer to nature, these idiots would just die off naturally as proud Darwin award winners, but we've become so successful as to insulate ourselves from immediate reprisal by nature, and these idiots aren't alone, they're steering society, and the mass casualties that will lie directly at their feet due to their malfeasance, or evil, will probably make Stalin blush.

The collapse is inevitable. You could not design a society that will destroy itself more perfectly than the one we're in. For someone not to see what's coming they'd have to be willfully ignorant or fully propagandized. We're following in the footsteps of Rome and Weimar. Where it goes, I'm not sure. All I can do is prepare for the collapse, because unlike the past there is no where left to run.

by gunteh
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ApexVeritas 2 points ago +2 / -0

Nice thread. I'm glad other people are noticing this.

The hilariously sad hypocrisy/stupidity of it too, is that feminists want women to be "empowered", not needing a man, while advocating for larger and larger government, which is just replacing the traditional role and responsibilities that individual men would play in women's lives, as protectors and providers, creating the largest institution of patriarchy on the planet (government), while simultaneously wanting to smash the patriarchy, and ruin all men. It started out that most of the women pushing for feminism were old and ugly (most of the uber feminists still are), because they couldn't attract a man to earn his protection or resources, and they managed over time to convince more and more women to go along with them, to empower government to give them what they couldn't earn on their own. Unfortunately, government is faceless, and when overgrown, will crush both men and women under its boot. A bad government is a hell of a lot harder to tackle than one bad man.

This goes much further and deeper, too, connecting to philosophy and evolutionary genetics. As a foundation, the two highest priorities must be truth and life, with truth being the highest. If you prioritize life over truth, the first casualty is truth, and the second is inevitably life (I shouldn't have to explain this further, it should be self evident among our long history). Men, as a biological necessity, value truth, logic, and reason above all else. I imagine this was spurred on because men who didn't value truth were less likely to survive in dire situations (common when close to nature, and failure meant death), and those that did were better able accrue more resources, better enabling them to pair bond, protect their family and community, survive, and pass on their genetics. Women, as a biological necessity, value life, emotion, and empathy above all else because it makes them better mates, mothers, and caretakers, better enabling them to survive and pass on their genetics. Thus, as a philosophical necessity men must hold higher position than women, by simple virtue of our differing priorities. This means all natural and successful communities of people is patriarchal. If women hold power over men, or feminine values are held over the masculine, destruction follows.

This, of course, doesn't mean I believe women are inferior and men superior, just that we're different, and each is better suited to their traditional role than the other. The farther away from truth and nature we go, the more we fail. Nature teaches really quick what works and what doesn't. Unfortunately, western society has become so successful we abandoned our traditions, often based off hard won lessons from nature, and we're now doing things that if we were closer to nature, would rightfully kill us off. This will play out on the small and large scale, even though the large scale will fall more slowly, because truth is true regardless of scale. Societies based off of lies cannot last. We will repeat the cycle, and relearn the lessons nature taught us. Unfortunately, there will be a lot of death and misery between now and then.

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ApexVeritas 4 points ago +4 / -0

There's a bit of naivety on the right when it comes to censorship. Since the left, in every area, is censoring everyone who doesn't tow their bullshit, the reaction from the right is to view all forms of censorship as bad. It's now almost impossible to argue for or enact any form of censorship on the right, even within our own communities, to protect ourselves from obvious trolls and bad actors, with the only possible exception being child porn. Hell, it's not just an issue with those on the right, but with anyone not left.

This naive position undermines a foundational perquisite everyone has: you have the right to protect your home/community/country and who is allowed to enter it. We're seeing first hand in western countries the problems of unmitigated immigration, legal or not. The oddity is that almost everyone on the right sees the problem with unmitigated immigration, but doesn't see the parallel with protecting their online communities via necessary censorship.

If you don't protect your home, you inevitably will no longer have a home. Thus, censorship is sometimes necessary and moral.

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ApexVeritas 2 points ago +2 / -0

Seeing how curated and censored our modern "mainstream" anything is by our self imposed overlords (news, politics, social media, TV, movies, education, books, all branches of science, history, etc.), in conjunction with all the other confirmed conspiracies, it gives a lot more credence to men like Graham Hancock who postulate past advance human civilizations, and makes me wonder how much even our recent history (last hundred years) has been completely warped.

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ApexVeritas 39 points ago +39 / -0

I've noticed the huge drop in posts, comments, votes, and general activity as well. I'm pretty sure it's from multiple reasons, one of which is a drop in bot and shill activity from the election cycle.

The other reason I believe is that most people on the right have withdrawn, for how long I don't know. Most people in the know on the political right know they got screwed over by the Democrats in the election, and then screwed over by most of the Republicans for going along with the steal, not contesting it, in some cases helping to cover it up, and certifying the election, and then got screwed over by Trump, the one guy it seemed wasn't in on the uniparty bullshit, and even he threw his supporters under the bus on January 6th.

Most of the people I've talked to are really pissed, disenfranchised, preparing, and waiting to see what happens. I've noticed myself a complete disinterest in reading political news since 01/06, for reference, I've read the news for a few hours every day since 2007, and now almost nothing.

For those paying attention, especially with what started to happen during the 2016 primary, Trump wasn't the right's last chance, it was the country's. The right, and the left, have been screwed over by the unipart for decades, playing both sides against each other while they push their multiple agendas, that all screw us over. The only difference is that the right has largely realized the charade, which is why they put in Trump(a non politician), and that since the election and 01/06, the game is over. The left still thinks the game is on, because their core philosophies make them easy to manipulate.

The U.S. as a country is over. There are 3 ways to solve conflict, and we're not using the best 2, leaving the last option: violence. It's inevitable at this point, the only question is when it starts and how it plays out. Good debate isn't happening, and the right can't vote with their feet any more in the U.S. to avoid the insanity of the false left, everything is being moved to the federal level, which is counter to the logic of the inverse square law, voting ratios, and freedom of choice and merit. Every institution has been corrupted, every foundational philosophy disregarded and upended. You couldn't design a more complete and sure destruction of society than what we're doing.

I believe most on the right realize this, which explains a lot why they've withdrawn for the time being. The dream has been shattered, the future holds pain. Why invest in politics in a rigged game and for a country that's doomed?

There's a mix of people on the right currently. There are those who think they can still vote themselves out of this (not a majority I believe), those still shocked at the realization of what happened, those trying to stick their head in the sand and endure, those who gave up and are laughing at the insanity of the modern world, those who are preparing for the violence and fall of society, and those ready to fight (but don't yet act because there is no clear leader or direction and don't want to act alone).

Bad times ahead. I believe when certain oversteps are made, social activity will return a lot, but it will be made by those who are disenfranchised, cheated, somber, angry, and ready for a fight. In the lulls between the missteps you'll mostly hear the voices of those uninformed or trying to stick their head in the sand, if we're afforded any breaks at all.

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ApexVeritas 2 points ago +2 / -0

Cancel culture is getting something cancelled so no one can enjoy it, or someone cancelled so no one can watch or listen to them.

Not buying something from a company because they do something you don't like is completely different, and each person's choice where they shop.

Trying to conflate the two shows more about you than the people you're trying to paint.

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