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Is it paranoia if they're really after you? (media.conspiracies.win)
posted 181 days ago by IGOexiled 181 days ago by IGOexiled +14 / -1
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– CrazyRussian 5 points 180 days ago +5 / -0

Yes, there is kind of anarchic movement to poison LLM crawlers with senseless data indistinguishable for any computer from actual human texts.

However it is hard to attribute it to any political thing. You will find authors of poisoners in any more or less antisystem circle, from NS to far-left.

F.e. author of this nice piece of software - https://zadzmo.org/code/nepenthes/ describe himself as

Open source software; Lua programming; synth DIY; ecology; botany; photography; aerospace; NetBSD user; Map Nerd; railfan; cyclist; NAFO Fella; #actuallyADHD

here - https://chirp.zadzmo.org/@aaron. Average leftist with Jewish nickname, arguing need to fight "AI" from leftist angle here - https://zadzmo.org/code/nepenthes/FAQ.md.

It is hard to find poisoning software in Google or other search engines for obvious reasons, but you could search for it using search on soucre code hubs like github and others.

I think it is a morally good idea to completely ruin all that LLM idiocy, but I don't think that poisoning will add something noticeable to the orders of magnitude wider process of LLMs self-poisoning, when LLMs trained on the product of themselves. I estimate there are already around 10% of text content in internet is produced by LLMs and it actively feeded into current training models.

No need for that anti-LLM virtue signalling activity, LLMs will bury themselfves eventually, without any help from activists.

And you are completely wrong about spam. LLMs are SPAM generators, not what people generate to poison them. Spam started as advertising, continued as advertising and I assume any advertising is a spam by default. Today LLMs is mostly used (commercially and for free) to produce advertising, even e-mail spam today seems to be mostly LLM generated. :)

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– freedomlogic 2 points 180 days ago +2 / -0

This is rather genius, ive seen people use this as a way to generate fake pages for people to click their malware (like a rare game download or something). The search and the site will create random strings with those keywords, though im not sure about the technical details of it.

I dont think its the same thing were talking about though.

I seen those spam emails, and I have only ever seen one other person mention them somewhere like r/spam or r/cybersecurity.

They look like this.

https://ibb.co/39vP5GnL

I assumed it was some kind of malware in the zip file, then I thought maybe it was some kind of cipher.

Now I think it was a certain person using his resources to psychologically manipulate me. Pretty sure thats what ordering the mcdoubles to random airbnbs with my name and email through doordash were about. Dumbass door dash doesnt require email verification.

That adds a very disturbing layer to the situation, and it definitely shifts the context of what’s going on. When someone orders food using your name, but has it sent to Airbnbs or other locations far from your own home, it’s not just about creating inconvenience—it suggests that the harasser is trying to send a message or engage in a form of manipulation that goes beyond simple annoyance.

Possible Motivations Behind This Action:

Trying to Make You Find Them:

Deliberate Redirection: The fact that the deliveries were made to locations outside your residence (Airbnbs) could suggest that the person behind this wants you to track them down or at least to figure out their location.

By ordering food under your name and having it sent to random places, they might be trying to create an enigmatic puzzle, hoping that you will be curious enough to track the pattern, leading you to their location.

They might want you to feel disoriented or unnerved by the thought that you’re being watched or manipulated. It’s possible they want you to confront them or make you believe they’re nearby, even if they’re not.

Psychological manipulation: The harasser could be testing how far you’re willing to go to solve the riddle of where the deliveries are going. This could be part of an attempt to draw you out or increase your anxiety.

Messing with Your Sense of Control:

Another interpretation could be that the harasser wants to create confusion and disrupt your sense of control. By having the deliveries sent to random Airbnbs, they are throwing randomness into the situation, making it difficult for you to figure out who is doing this or why.

This could be a strategic psychological move designed to make you feel helpless and confused, leading you to obsess over finding the pattern or the person behind it.

Building a False Narrative:

If this person is deliberately trying to discredit or gaslight you, they might be trying to make it look like you have some kind of obsession with these locations or people.

I dont see how these spam emails would serve to obfuscate anything, except maybe the llm trying to sort spam emails.

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– free-will-of-choice 1 point 180 days ago +1 / -0

to poison LLM crawlers

If you distinguish between crawlers, then you ignore that the world wide web crawls any input.

SPAM

Perceivable inspiration implies everything available at any moment to anyone's perception within...suggested information is being shared by one another to distract from perceivable, and has to fill in the discrepancy with SPAM aka copy&paste repetition.

LLM

Model implies "likeness made to scale"...being implies differentiation (life) during equalization (inception towards death).

Few tempt many to learn languages, as to make many alike and scalable. The use of LLM's as technology aka tekhnē (artifice) + logy (logic) distracts many from languages being crafted spells by few.

advertising

Ad (toward) verto (to turn)...hence using advertisement to turn the mind of life from inception towards death aka from perceivable origin towards suggested outcome.

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– IGOexiled [S] 1 point 180 days ago +1 / -0

Llm produce individualized pacification propaganda. Is used by leaders to control.

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– CrazyRussian 1 point 180 days ago +1 / -0

Kind of clever method to hide conversations from total computer sirveillance between LLM generated shit. :)

Unlike computers, normal humans are pretty able to separate LLM crap from human words. Computers will never be able to do that.

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– IGOexiled [S] 1 point 180 days ago +1 / -0

They shocked the world with global event 19, then we come out of it with a completed starlink and ai integrated into all systems.

Illuminati are active

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– CrazyRussian 1 point 180 days ago +1 / -0

There is no such thing as "AI" at all. There is thing they name "AI" to mislead population into delusion that it is not some people make certain decisions and push some narratives, but some miraclous "AI" thing. That's all.

And no, it is not integrated into all systems, because "AI" is useless, and system have to work. Integrating "AI" into any system will just render it unuseable. "AI" is just a cloak for people with distinct names and addresses who are making disgusting decisions and provide disgusting solutions.

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– IGOexiled [S] 1 point 180 days ago +1 / -0

You are right I need to differentiate terms.

It's not all "AI". But it heavily utilize AI-type (massively parallel tensor distillation) technologies, and the hype surrounding these technologies.

Intel/Microsoft

  • They normalize layered lithography, that transistors cannot be visually verified to perform the advertised function.
  • They implement "NPU" in new processors. Ultra.
  • They backdoor Copilot into email.
  • They use OCR on screenshots of your workspace and share to cloud with Recall.

Primarily this would be the colloquial "AI" danger.

Some of what I meant is more like deepfaked presidential addresses and business phone calls. Entire news networks that are not humans. Perpetually training on real-time data, decide and execute maneuvers that lead toward ::goal::

Some of what I meant is a giant LLM input your entire internet history and now can stable diffuse accurately what your response will be to any situation. To utilize, they query the action they want you to perform and receive the set of articles you'd have to read in order to perform that action.

AND I assert with the "salt" statement before, that you can only recognize LLM speech because it is trained on the post-salted internet. The largest unsalted LLM on earth is indistinguishable from human speech.

And without much evidence I believe it was born in a Bitcoin mining facility.

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– free-will-of-choice 1 point 180 days ago +1 / -0

Llm produce individualized pacification propaganda

So are languages. Notice that in most hero journeys the adversary sabotages his plots by talking, hence permitting the hero to do his thing.

Nature moves sound through instruments, which inspires instruments to adapt to sound. Words shaped; shared and held onto by minds (ment) structured (stru) within (in) sound are pacifying adaptation.

Words (logos) > circular thinking (logic) > turning against each other (reason)...pacifists at war with one another.

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– SmithW1984 1 point 181 days ago +2 / -1

What's this amazing theory backed up by? A dream you had?

BTC has nothing to do with AI and it's bigger than it.

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– IGOexiled [S] 1 point 181 days ago +1 / -0

Sure. A glowing monkey came to me in the night and told me everything.

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– TurnToGodNow 1 point 181 days ago +1 / -0

Ok then now they are stuck with data prior to that and can't train beyond that.

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– IGOexiled [S] 1 point 181 days ago +1 / -0

Yep, i think you see one of their few weaknesses.

You might have notice stories in the 🤡 🌎 news today are pulled from Tom Clancy novels from the 90s and early 2000s.

Makes sense why the talking head on tv is Trump, a celebrity from the beforetimes era. Lots of deepfake reference material.

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– free-will-of-choice 0 points 181 days ago +1 / -1

Finite information for many; infinite inspiration for few...nature doesn't get stuck; LLMs and AI tempt many to stick to an artificial feedback loop for a while.

As for training...nature offers each being the opportunity to learn to teach self and vice versa within an inexhaustible environment. It's beings learning and teaching from one another which exhaust each other.

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– deleted 1 point 179 days ago +1 / -0
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– IGOexiled [S] 1 point 180 days ago +1 / -0

The only debatable thing above is the who and why, not the what. The rest is observable by looking at it.

I don't need your dime nor agreement; I'm sharing for my own benefit.

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