As someone who holds both gold and BTC - who do you think controls most of the precious metals and land? If you think you're "fighting the system" by owning gold you're delusional and need to read on history, economics and geopolitics. I'd take gold over fiat and crypto any time but the reality is all money is controlled by the ((central bankers)) and it has been this way for hundreds of years.
The price of gold can be manipulated and it constantly is. The price of gold falls significantly every 31 years. The bankers do the same boom-bust cycle as they do with fiat.
Are you saying the graph is incorrect? I don't make conclusions based on a single article on the nets. There are books like The Anglo-American Establishment by C. Quigley and The Secrets of the Federal Reserve by E. Mullins that talk about Rothschild's control of gold. Bankers were very much for the gold standard.
Just because you hold gold doesn’t mean you fully control it, its value is market-based, it’s not easily liquid, and history shows even governments can confiscate it.
Then you're proving my point, if someone can confiscate it, or if its value can be manipulated or hidden, then you don't truly control it. Holding gold ≠ absolute freedom.
The irony is it was the Rothschilds, Harrimans, Morgans and the Warburgs who pushed for the gold standard 100 years ago and now people act as if going back to it is a silver bullet that will mend the broken usury system...
The problems. With going back to it is that your costs for the cheapest things will become enormous because of the extra cost of security and transportation. Transactions outside of your town will take days to clear which would cap the economy off at a slower pace than before.
A currency not based on debt and is capped to a limit while being instantaneous with no 3rd party bank? That crypto.
All of the boomers that don't prep and can't handle this are going to learn the hard way. The vast majority of them deserve the pain and suffering, they contributed to the problem and did nothing.
Gold and silver will stay great for local purchases but with internet and electricity it would not be useful to run a countries economy.
Not true. Read what E. Mullins had to say in his Secrets of the Fed:
The international gold dealings of the Federal Reserve System, and its
active support in helping the League of Nations to force all the nations
of Europe and South America back on the gold standard for the
benefit of international gold merchants like Eugene Meyer, Jr. and
Albert Strauss, is best demonstrated by a classic incident, the sterling
credit of 1925.
J.E. Darling wrote, in the English periodical, "Spectator", on January 10,
1925 that:
"Obviously, it is of the first importance to the United States to induce
England to resume the gold standard as early as possible. An
American controlled Gold Standard, which must inevitably result in the
United States becoming the world’s supreme financial power, makes
England a tributary and satellite, and New York the world’s financial
centre."
Mr. Darling fails to point out that the American people have as little to
do with this as the British people, and that resumption of the gold
standard by Britain would benefit only that small group of international
gold merchants who own the world’s gold. No wonder that "Banker’s
Magazine" gleefully remarked in July, 1925 that:
"The outstanding event of the past half year in the banking world was
the restoration of the gold standard."
The First World War changed the status of the United States from that of
a debtor nation to the position of the world’s greatest creditor nation,
a title formerly occupied by England. Since debt is money, according
to the Governor Marriner Eccles of the Federal Reserve Board, this also
made us the richest nation of the world. The war also caused the
removal of the headquarters of the world’s acceptance market from
London to New York, and Paul Warburg became the most powerful
trade acceptance banker in the world. The mainstay of the
international financiers, however, remained the same. The gold
standard was still the basis of foreign exchange, and the small group of
internationals who owned the gold controlled the monetary system of
the Western nations.
Professor Gustav Cassel wrote in 1928:
"The American dollar, not the gold standard, is the world’s monetary
standard. The AmericanFederal Reserve Board has the power to
determine the purchasing power of the dollar by making changes in
the rate of discount, and thus controls the monetary standard of the
world."
If this were true, the members of the Federal Reserve Board would be
the most powerful financiers in the world. Occasionally their
membership includes such influential men as Paul Warburg or Eugene
Meyer, Jr., but usually they are a rubber-stamp committee for the
Federal Advisory Council and the London bankers.
In May, 1925, the British Parliament passed the Gold Standard Act,
putting Great Britain back on the gold standard. The Federal Reserve
System’s major role in this event came out on March 16, 1926, when
George Seay, Governor of the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond,
testified before the House Banking and Currency Committee that:
"A verbal understanding confirmed by correspondence, extended
Great Britain a two hundred million dollar gold loan or credit. All
negotiations were conducted between Benjamin Strong, Governor of
the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and Mr. Montagu Norman,
Governor of the Bank of England. The purpose of this loan was to help
England get back on the gold standard, and the loan was to be met
by investment of Federal Reserve funds in bills of exchange and foreign
securities."
Notice it was the Fed and the League of Nations (the model for One world government) that pushed countries to go back on the gold standard. Only people who are clueless of the system believe there is a dichotomy between fake monopoly fiat money (the Fed) and gold. In reality gold is just a tool in their toolkit for influencing global economy and markets, same as the fake dollar.
If banks love gold so much more than Fiat, why did they create a fiat system that was designed to overtake gold as payments settlement?
Why haven't they all gone back to it?
Bankers control the world. They buy politicians, laws, and propaganda. They can buy anything they want and they certainly will buy what keeps them in power.
Why was a gold and silver paper market in the 80s created to control the price of these precious metals?
What you're reading is dogshit. You're missing the forest for the trees.
The only reason the central banks are buying up gold now is because they know the world economy is mega fucked so they are now buying what will keep them in power until they make a new currency they'll try to force on everyone.
When the world economy is not mega fucked, they'll be pushing a currency that they have more control of that keeps them in power.
If banks love gold so much more than Fiat, why did they create a fiat system that was designed to overtake gold as payments settlement?
I've addressed that - both gold and fiat (as well as CBDC) are tools in their toolkit and serve different purposes. People will never hold enough gold to make a difference. I guess it's the same with all money and it makes sense since we know (((who))) is hoarding it for hundreds of years.
What you're reading is dogshit. You're missing the forest for the trees.
It's only the best, most well researched book on the Fed by a conspiracy legend.
Again, I'm not saying fiat money is better than gold, I'm saying it's a false dichotomy and the gold standard is not a silver bullet for escaping the usury based system created by the central bankers and I supported my claim with historical facts - "the bad guys" wanted the gold standard at least in the wartime period. It's not a black and white dialectic.
The only reason the central banks are buying up gold now is because they know the world economy is mega fucked so they are now buying what will keep them in power until they make a new currency they'll try to force on everyone.
It's not megafucked to them, it is just as they steered it to be. They want degrowth circular economy with unparalleled control of all money and that's where we're heading. You're making it seem as if they're scrambling not knowing what's going on. They know, they've planned it for decades if not centuries.
Crypto is not a toolkit of the fed. It can only start becoming a toolkit when the government mandates what crypto can and can't be used.
You and I and anyone else can make a crypto. You are just ignorant of how crypto works. The Fed doesn't control crypto.
The free market runs crypto. Big Finance has many pumps and dumps into crypto and that's to fog things.
The crypto that gives you the most freedom will win out. The crypto that can be used by billions everyday will win out.
The people can choose what crypto gives them the most freedom by buying it. The people can choose what crypto to transact with.
Do your research on crypto and learn what is going on with it because you obviously don't understand that you can copy other crypto source code and improve on it if you see that it needs improvements.
All crypto is downstream to BTC - if it fails, everything else will follow. As with all money it hinges on trust and recognition. Do you know who holds the majority of BTC? Who is Satoshi Nakamoto? You don't even know who developed it (it was most likely DARPA) let alone who really controls it. I know how it works and what it is as I said I hold some BTC.
I think the giveaway for this is "the dog that didn't bark". That is, if crypto was any kind of real threat to The System, every puppet and spokeshole and their brother would be flipping the fuck out about it continually.
Frankly, they would only need make reasonable and rational claims: that untraceable currency would be ideal for dark webbists, domestic terrorists, regular terrorists, foreign influencers, etc, etc.
For comparison, a number of years ago there was a brief program to frighten the sheeple with the concept of "three-ring terrorists". These were maniacs bent on random homicide who dodged the intelligence services by writing things down on paper, where they could not be remotely snooped upon. I think they gave it up when they realized that telling everyone to be suspicious of any person carrying around a binder was probably a bridge too far.
Not only that, they couldn't help but advertise it on TV on many occassions which would never happen if they were opposed to it. They even have some public figures promoting it now.
I mean, crypto's not inherently bad or good, it's just another invention, but even without direct evidence I feel certain they've got a backdoor into the math for the day they need to "pull the plug".
i dont' think it was a scam in its conception or even initial increase in popularity. early crypto devs had no idea what the acceptance would be like.
but it ironically has so far only held value based exactly on how many $USD it is worth, and looks to remain that way for a long time, which means that whoever moves the most USD can gobble it all up, as we have seen with blackrock
personally I use crypto for daytrading to earn some side dollas, i don't hold any large amounts
According to Navy Intelligence whistelblower Bill Cooper, they are all made by NSA on behalf of the Rothschilds. The whole thing is a trap to reduce our ownership to 0 which digital currency is pretty much worthless. Anyone defending digital currency is suspect.
According to Navy Intelligence whistelblower Bill Cooper, they are all made by NSA on behalf of the Rothschilds.
Bill Cooper died in 2001, long before the first cryptocurrency, Bitcoin, was invented in 2009. If you are just going to make up things at least get the details right.
There were a lot of ideas created and talked about in the 1980s and 1990s but no Cryptocurrencies like we have today were in use or even created.
Ecash was conceived by David Chaum as an electronic money or electronic cash system in 1982. It was realized through his corporation Digicash and used as micropayment system at one US bank from 1995 to 1998. But it needed banks to work and failed to get enough of them on board.
Bitcoin and eCash have little in common from a design perspective.
B-money was an early cryptocurrency concept that never officially launched. First revealed in 1998 by computer scientist Wei Da
Bit Gold was Proposed by Nick Szabo in 1998.
Bit Gold was never developed beyond discussions and proposals into code
At the time none of these people were said to have Received their creations from the NSA.
Pretty sure Bill Cooper was dead long before the creation of Bitcoin/digital currency. He may have been around for the "inception idea" of digital currency (e.g. cyberpunk theorists discussing the idea) but I don't think he would have any insight into the actual creation of the currencies
i’m familiar with normal schools and all that, i just think you’re really dumbing this shit down. on behalf of who i’m not so sure. probably the modern day equivalent of the now less relevant families, unwittingly or otherwise. the whole light bringer (lucifer) gimmick on a fake christian website is quite odd as well.
Lol he's just a midwit who knows not what he speaks of. The people who hold all the cards are not going to let their true identities be known across the world. Whatever level you think is the top is just what they allow you to believe. They're the front line puppets.
Crypto allows you to do things you can't with gold. Near instantaneous transactions without needing to trust a 3rd party to conduct the transactions. I don't have to wait days, I don't have to pay enormous security fees, I can audit my crypto 24/7 unlike the gold in a bank vault.
Unlike Fiat currency, a real crypto has a capped max supply, is decentralized in issuance, and average people can vote on changes to the protocol (if governance is done right).
You're hundred percent right fellow Patriot. Crypto made things easier, making payments and so on. It's actually the new world that's why we're been advised by our president to have cryptos
And of course this is true because Mr Rothschild, himself told you this ?
Perfectly Logical, take a financial system that you have been perfecting your control over for centuries and replace it with something brand new that will be hard to control .
So he created a new system then gave away the code in open source where anybody can go in and see how it works and what it does,and modify it any way they want. Which resulted in now over 10,000 competitors that he can't Control.
Definitely not the brightest bulb in the family tree.
It wont even work for a nanosecond with something already established and heavily audited like Bitcoin. You have to have a majority of mining power to go along with you.
With a new crypto, you'd have to convince other people to join it before you you scam them.
If the people getting scammed don't do their research, don't ask about the source code, don't demand ways to prove the new crypto is trustworthy, then its their fault they got scammed.
LightBringerFlex enjoys trolling everyone here, I think its a small Fed poison pill account.
As someone who holds both gold and BTC - who do you think controls most of the precious metals and land? If you think you're "fighting the system" by owning gold you're delusional and need to read on history, economics and geopolitics. I'd take gold over fiat and crypto any time but the reality is all money is controlled by the ((central bankers)) and it has been this way for hundreds of years.
Just avoid digital and pay cash.
If you hold gold in your hand, you control it. Nobody else.
What's the difference with you holding cash in your hand?
Can loses value. Gold has held strong for thousands of years.
Google Executive Order 6102.
The price of gold can be manipulated and it constantly is. The price of gold falls significantly every 31 years. The bankers do the same boom-bust cycle as they do with fiat.
https://owenanalytics.com.au/uploads/2024/20240315-Gold-31-year-itch/Gold-31-year-cycles-since-1860.jpg
Whoever posted this lie is trying to manipulate you.
Here's the whole article: https://owenanalytics.com.au/2024-03-16-gold-31-year-itch
Are you saying the graph is incorrect? I don't make conclusions based on a single article on the nets. There are books like The Anglo-American Establishment by C. Quigley and The Secrets of the Federal Reserve by E. Mullins that talk about Rothschild's control of gold. Bankers were very much for the gold standard.
They just scribble up whatever graph to fool the goyim.
Just because you hold gold doesn’t mean you fully control it, its value is market-based, it’s not easily liquid, and history shows even governments can confiscate it.
Value if spot gold is fake news. It’s usually more valuable than they say.
Anyone who tries to confiscate gold should be treated as a thief.
Then you're proving my point, if someone can confiscate it, or if its value can be manipulated or hidden, then you don't truly control it. Holding gold ≠ absolute freedom.
You will never get a gold standard, let alone bi-medalism, without a complete societal collapse.
It's a pipe dream.
The irony is it was the Rothschilds, Harrimans, Morgans and the Warburgs who pushed for the gold standard 100 years ago and now people act as if going back to it is a silver bullet that will mend the broken usury system...
They didn't push for it, they pushed against it.
Silver standard went first then Gold Standard.
The problems. With going back to it is that your costs for the cheapest things will become enormous because of the extra cost of security and transportation. Transactions outside of your town will take days to clear which would cap the economy off at a slower pace than before.
A currency not based on debt and is capped to a limit while being instantaneous with no 3rd party bank? That crypto.
All of the boomers that don't prep and can't handle this are going to learn the hard way. The vast majority of them deserve the pain and suffering, they contributed to the problem and did nothing.
Gold and silver will stay great for local purchases but with internet and electricity it would not be useful to run a countries economy.
Not true. Read what E. Mullins had to say in his Secrets of the Fed:
Notice it was the Fed and the League of Nations (the model for One world government) that pushed countries to go back on the gold standard. Only people who are clueless of the system believe there is a dichotomy between fake monopoly fiat money (the Fed) and gold. In reality gold is just a tool in their toolkit for influencing global economy and markets, same as the fake dollar.
If banks love gold so much more than Fiat, why did they create a fiat system that was designed to overtake gold as payments settlement?
Why haven't they all gone back to it?
Bankers control the world. They buy politicians, laws, and propaganda. They can buy anything they want and they certainly will buy what keeps them in power.
Why was a gold and silver paper market in the 80s created to control the price of these precious metals?
What you're reading is dogshit. You're missing the forest for the trees.
The only reason the central banks are buying up gold now is because they know the world economy is mega fucked so they are now buying what will keep them in power until they make a new currency they'll try to force on everyone.
When the world economy is not mega fucked, they'll be pushing a currency that they have more control of that keeps them in power.
I've addressed that - both gold and fiat (as well as CBDC) are tools in their toolkit and serve different purposes. People will never hold enough gold to make a difference. I guess it's the same with all money and it makes sense since we know (((who))) is hoarding it for hundreds of years.
It's only the best, most well researched book on the Fed by a conspiracy legend.
Again, I'm not saying fiat money is better than gold, I'm saying it's a false dichotomy and the gold standard is not a silver bullet for escaping the usury based system created by the central bankers and I supported my claim with historical facts - "the bad guys" wanted the gold standard at least in the wartime period. It's not a black and white dialectic.
It's not megafucked to them, it is just as they steered it to be. They want degrowth circular economy with unparalleled control of all money and that's where we're heading. You're making it seem as if they're scrambling not knowing what's going on. They know, they've planned it for decades if not centuries.
Crypto is not a toolkit of the fed. It can only start becoming a toolkit when the government mandates what crypto can and can't be used.
You and I and anyone else can make a crypto. You are just ignorant of how crypto works. The Fed doesn't control crypto.
The free market runs crypto. Big Finance has many pumps and dumps into crypto and that's to fog things.
The crypto that gives you the most freedom will win out. The crypto that can be used by billions everyday will win out.
The people can choose what crypto gives them the most freedom by buying it. The people can choose what crypto to transact with.
Do your research on crypto and learn what is going on with it because you obviously don't understand that you can copy other crypto source code and improve on it if you see that it needs improvements.
All crypto is downstream to BTC - if it fails, everything else will follow. As with all money it hinges on trust and recognition. Do you know who holds the majority of BTC? Who is Satoshi Nakamoto? You don't even know who developed it (it was most likely DARPA) let alone who really controls it. I know how it works and what it is as I said I hold some BTC.
I think the giveaway for this is "the dog that didn't bark". That is, if crypto was any kind of real threat to The System, every puppet and spokeshole and their brother would be flipping the fuck out about it continually.
Frankly, they would only need make reasonable and rational claims: that untraceable currency would be ideal for dark webbists, domestic terrorists, regular terrorists, foreign influencers, etc, etc.
For comparison, a number of years ago there was a brief program to frighten the sheeple with the concept of "three-ring terrorists". These were maniacs bent on random homicide who dodged the intelligence services by writing things down on paper, where they could not be remotely snooped upon. I think they gave it up when they realized that telling everyone to be suspicious of any person carrying around a binder was probably a bridge too far.
Not only that, they couldn't help but advertise it on TV on many occassions which would never happen if they were opposed to it. They even have some public figures promoting it now.
I mean, crypto's not inherently bad or good, it's just another invention, but even without direct evidence I feel certain they've got a backdoor into the math for the day they need to "pull the plug".
Then, well, it's way way way too f-ing late.
Considering the encryption used is encryption that was released by the NSA yeah I think it's safe to say they have a backdoor
i dont' think it was a scam in its conception or even initial increase in popularity. early crypto devs had no idea what the acceptance would be like.
but it ironically has so far only held value based exactly on how many $USD it is worth, and looks to remain that way for a long time, which means that whoever moves the most USD can gobble it all up, as we have seen with blackrock
personally I use crypto for daytrading to earn some side dollas, i don't hold any large amounts
According to Navy Intelligence whistelblower Bill Cooper, they are all made by NSA on behalf of the Rothschilds. The whole thing is a trap to reduce our ownership to 0 which digital currency is pretty much worthless. Anyone defending digital currency is suspect.
is that the bill cooper that called out 9/11 ?
Yup, before it even happened.
so like 10 years before BTC? do you have a link
Read his book Behold A Pale Horse
added to the list cheers
ok i found this, will dig deeper cheers
https://conspiracies.win/p/17siJHcGpN/bill-cooper-confirmed-this-in-th/
oh shit you posted that 🤣
Bill Cooper died in 2001, long before the first cryptocurrency, Bitcoin, was invented in 2009. If you are just going to make up things at least get the details right.
It was created in the 1980s. Don’t believe the fake news.
Name One
There were a lot of ideas created and talked about in the 1980s and 1990s but no Cryptocurrencies like we have today were in use or even created.
Ecash was conceived by David Chaum as an electronic money or electronic cash system in 1982. It was realized through his corporation Digicash and used as micropayment system at one US bank from 1995 to 1998. But it needed banks to work and failed to get enough of them on board.
Bitcoin and eCash have little in common from a design perspective.
B-money was an early cryptocurrency concept that never officially launched. First revealed in 1998 by computer scientist Wei Da
Bit Gold was Proposed by Nick Szabo in 1998. Bit Gold was never developed beyond discussions and proposals into code
At the time none of these people were said to have Received their creations from the NSA.
You're The Fake News
Pretty sure Bill Cooper was dead long before the creation of Bitcoin/digital currency. He may have been around for the "inception idea" of digital currency (e.g. cyberpunk theorists discussing the idea) but I don't think he would have any insight into the actual creation of the currencies
They made digital currency in the 80s. They have been testing and refining it since.
Welcome, Agent Smith.
who is rothschild himself at this point?
A family of 2000 HQ in London
that’s 1 person?
1 family
there are exactly 2000 people in this family?
Around that much. The rockafellers are their descendants from an outside marriage.
i’m familiar with normal schools and all that, i just think you’re really dumbing this shit down. on behalf of who i’m not so sure. probably the modern day equivalent of the now less relevant families, unwittingly or otherwise. the whole light bringer (lucifer) gimmick on a fake christian website is quite odd as well.
Lol he's just a midwit who knows not what he speaks of. The people who hold all the cards are not going to let their true identities be known across the world. Whatever level you think is the top is just what they allow you to believe. They're the front line puppets.
Crypto allows you to do things you can't with gold. Near instantaneous transactions without needing to trust a 3rd party to conduct the transactions. I don't have to wait days, I don't have to pay enormous security fees, I can audit my crypto 24/7 unlike the gold in a bank vault.
Unlike Fiat currency, a real crypto has a capped max supply, is decentralized in issuance, and average people can vote on changes to the protocol (if governance is done right).
You're hundred percent right fellow Patriot. Crypto made things easier, making payments and so on. It's actually the new world that's why we're been advised by our president to have cryptos
The convenience isn’t worth being scammed, fleeced and enslaved by the Rothschilds for the rest of my life.
Crypto isn't controlled by the Rothschilds.
Gold is.
If there's ever a problem with a crypto, it is not difficult to start another one and let the free market do its thing.
To get over a fear of what you don't understand you need to research how blockchain works.
Hello Agent Smith.
You just can't argue with what I'm saying. Pathetic.
Are you a computer illiterate boomer?
And of course this is true because Mr Rothschild, himself told you this ?
Perfectly Logical, take a financial system that you have been perfecting your control over for centuries and replace it with something brand new that will be hard to control .
The fiat system is dying out so he made a system that enslaved us even harder since there is no cash alternative.
So he created a new system then gave away the code in open source where anybody can go in and see how it works and what it does,and modify it any way they want. Which resulted in now over 10,000 competitors that he can't Control.
Definitely not the brightest bulb in the family tree.
Oh if we can rig it anyway we want I’ll just go in there and rig it so all the money flows to my account.
Yes that will work for about 1 NanoSecond
Then you will find yourself on all kinds of lists like this
Crypto Scam Tracker https://dfpi.ca.gov/crypto-scams/
News travels far and wide and quick on the Internet.
It wont even work for a nanosecond with something already established and heavily audited like Bitcoin. You have to have a majority of mining power to go along with you.
With a new crypto, you'd have to convince other people to join it before you you scam them.
If the people getting scammed don't do their research, don't ask about the source code, don't demand ways to prove the new crypto is trustworthy, then its their fault they got scammed.
LightBringerFlex enjoys trolling everyone here, I think its a small Fed poison pill account.
Lol no thanks Rabbi.
Well they sure made it a difficult process for the common man to trade dollars for crypto.
Literally just pull up google maps and look for bitcoin atm.
I guess that works for a lot of people.
But these days, as you proably know, buying and selling cryptocurrency can be done online, laying in bed.
The Top DEX Crypto Exchanges to Buy and Sell BTC and Altcoins
https://www.bitcoin.com/exchanges/decentralized/
List of Decentralized Exchanges (DEXs)
https://www.alchemy.com/best/decentralized-exchanges-dexs
The useful idiots are the ones who fall for the psy-op which is this post.
Welcome. Agent Smith.
I never say things that would align with that character from The Matrix.