Deleted Reddit Thread Outlines Interesting Details on 1968 RFK Assassination
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The RFK assassination was faked. You can tell by an examination of the photos. Well, the photos that remain in existence, that is, because they've been trying to annihilate them.
Digging this out of the thread of stirred up mud clouding the waters, we find:
Suspicious, right? Then you can add what we find in this article:
New Twist in Kennedy Mystery : Photo Negatives of Robert F. Kennedy’s Assassination Disappear (LA Times 1/18/1996)
Okay then, Skip! But I still suggest that everyone take a close look at the photos for themselves, and while doing so simply asking yourself the question, "Are these real?" A gallery of the Bill Eppridge photos are here. You'll note how incredible shitty the "forensic value" is in the first place. Great job, Bill.
I have a writeup somewhere on the flaws if anyone needs the hints. It's best, though, that anyone interested do it for themselves because otherwise it's all too easy to accept or reject the evidence of your own eyes when someone else has told you what you're seeing.
PS: Does Bobby Jr know about this? Hard to believe he doesn't, but it's possible and there is no evidence either way. There are significant negative implications in either case, though.
Its not showing anything for me. Is there something else I can do, or did it get taken down?
Unddit 🌜︎☀︎💻︎about & FAQ status 61 RFK assassination, imo, has the most evidence pointing to a conpiracy.(self.actualconspiracies) submitted 22 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) by No_Butterfly99 to /r/actualconspiracies TL;DR In conclusion, the evidence suggests that the parts of CIA, the LAPD, Eugene Thane Cesar, and the polka dot dress lady were part of a conspiracy to assassinate Robert F. Kennedy. The deliberate destruction of evidence, the manipulation of Sirhan through hypnosis, and the suspicious activities of key figures involved in the case point to a coordinated effort to eliminate Kennedy. The official narrative does not hold up against the substantial evidence of a second shooter and the involvement of intelligence agencies. After looking at all this evidence, no person could conclude any differently.
The original death of RFK is shrouded with cover-up lies and corruption. This is a collection of evidence I've gathered that proves beyond reasonable doubt, that Sirhan Sirhan did not kill Robert F. Kennedy, the case of RFK was mishandled, lied about and shoved under the rug. The main portion of the world will know the conspiracies and cover-up of the assassination of JFK and what happened to him, now with RFK he was not known by many and most don’t give a second thought to what happened to him on that day, and if you think or maybe even consider that JFK’s murder was a cover-up at the least to full conspiracy, this case will blow your mind, with this essay I hope to uncover the facts of the case and to bring a new light of the inconsistencies and lies around it.
Robert F. Kennedy, often referred to as RFK, was a prominent American politician and a member of the Kennedy family. He served as the 64th United States Attorney General from 1961 to 1964, and as a US Senator from New York from 1965 until his death in 1968. RFK was known for his advocacy for civil rights, social justice, and opposition to the Vietnam War.
On the night of June 5th, 1968, RFK was at the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles, California, celebrating his win in the Democratic primary, a crucial win for his campaign for the presidential nomination. After delivering an uplifting victory speech to an enthusiastic crowd in the hotel's ballroom, RFK, accompanied by his entourage, headed towards the press conference through the kitchen pantry. As he made his way through the pantry, shaking hands and thanking his supporters, a young man named Sirhan Sirhan emerged from the crowd. Sirhan, a 24-year-old Palestinian, approached Kennedy closely in the chaotic and crowded pantry. Sirhan pulled out a .22 revolver and fired multiple shots at close range.
Robert F. Kennedy was struck by three bullets with a fourth bullet passing through his jacket. The most critical wound was a shot that entered behind his right ear, causing severe brain damage. Several others were also injured in the shooting, including Kennedy's campaign aide, Paul Schrade. The panic erupted in the pantry as people realized what had happened and tried to wrest the gun from Sirhan. Despite the immediate efforts of his medical team and the fast arrival of emergency services, Kennedy's condition rapidly deteriorated. He was rushed to the nearby Good Samaritan Hospital, where doctors worked tirelessly to save his life. Unfortunately, the damage was too extensive. Robert F. Kennedy succumbed to his injuries in the early hours of June 6, 1968, just over 24 hours after he was shot. He was 42 years old. Sirhan Sirhan was arrested at the scene and later convicted of first-degree murder. He was initially sentenced to death, but his sentence was commuted to life in prison in 1972 after California abolished the death penalty.
The bullet that killed RFK was fired from his right backside at an upward angle. No witness in the vicinity stated that Sirhan was closer than 3-4 feet, with most saying around 6 feet. The way Kennedy was standing, facing Sirhan, makes it impossible for Sirhan to have shot him in that manner. Witnesses have said the gunfire sounded like a machine gun. They also said they had a hard time believing it was from one gun.
The medical evidence documented by Dr. Thomas Noguchi, the coroner who conducted the autopsy, showed that the fatal shots came from behind and one inch away from Robert F. Kennedy. This automatically shows that Sirhan could not have shot him. But this is only the first thing. Dr. Noguchi wrote a book on it, calling it the perfect autopsy because it was. He was supervised by many different experts and professionals during the autopsy. He saw what happened to JFK's body and the government and media, and he didn't allow it to happen to RFK. They didn't allow Dr. Thomas Noguchi to testify in the trial and they ran a smear campaign against him for what he said in the autopsy. He was then abruptly fired from his job.
Sirhan fired two bullets, one hitting a man and another hitting a frame behind RFK. He was then abruptly subdued and fired six more shots which are all accounted for, hitting five different people. With two shots lodging in the ceiling and two in the frame, that gives us nine shots not accounting for the four that hit RFK. How was this possible with a eight-shot revolver? It's not. Multiple experts have examined the audio recordings of the night and have determined 10-13 shots were fired. In The audio recording, you can hear 2 shots a pause then around 8-11 shots in quick succession, This confirms witness reports who said they heard two shots, then a pause, and then all hell broke loose.
Sirhan was not given a fair trial. His lawyer decided to fight on the basis that Sirhan was mentally ill and in a hypnotic trance. He didn't even try to dispute the evidence in the trial, such as the gun that was allegedly used in the shooting was examined by a ballistic expert who said it was the same gun that killed RFK. the serial numbers of the gun he tested and used the the trial and the one used by Sirhan's did not match up. Not only did this prove the expert was willing to lie, it destroys the credibility of the LAPD investigation. There was no chain of custody on Sirhan’s real gun, which in a real trial would be inadmissible.
In 1975 a panel was formed. The panel was created solely to examine ballistic evidence. The panel inventoried all the bullets they received from the LAPD documenting all existing markings. The test bullet, supposedly from Sirhan's gun, should have had a specific marking, but it didn't. The Kennedy neck bullet, retrieved fairly intact, should have had the base marked with the coroner's initials and the case number TN31. However, the 1975 panel found the base marked with DWTN indicating it wasn't the same bullet. Dwayne Wolfer, DWTN, apparently didn't check the original markings on the bullet. Interestingly, the photomicrograph of the supposed test bullet, which didn’t come from Sirhan, revealed it was actually the Goldstein bullet, Ira Goldstein, who was wounded in the pantry, which should have had his bullet marked with an X by the doctor who retrieved it. Yet the bullet examined by the panel had no such marking.
Grant Cooper, Sirhan’s lawyer also worked with Johnny Roselli who was connected to the Friars Club Place, who was also connected to the racetracks Sirhan worked at. Sirhan’s lawyer received the lowest punishment for stealing a grand jury testimony in the Friars Club case. This suggests it might have been a reward for getting a conviction on Sirhan. So after all this, you may ask who did it. It was Thane Eugene Cesar, the polka dot dress girl, and another man. This is the evidence. Thane Cesar was a last-minute replacement as Kennedy’s bodyguard could not work that day. Thane Cesar was a self-described CIA agent who, in a previous job, was working at Lockheed with a top secret clearance. The kitchen was constantly unguarded, the part where Thane Cesar was supposed to guard. Lisa Pease explains.
Thane Cesar would have been in the perfect position to shoot Kennedy and is the only person who could have shot Robert F. Kennedy. Thane Cesar said he didn't shoot his gun on the night, but witnesses claim they saw a security guard shoot their gun.
When RFK was shot after he fell on top of Thane and you can see Thane Cesar's tie. How did his tie come off? Well, Robert Kennedy fell on top of him and ripped his tie off as they were falling to the ground. Why would Kennedy do this? It was his last conscious act to show who the murderer was because he knew it came from his right backside. Thane Cesar can be seen later in the night without his tie on. Also, Cesar's gun was never tested on the night of the shooting. His .38 was never tested. Thane Cesar stated he sold his .22, three months before the shooting, the same gun that killed Kennedy, but this was proven to be false with the receipt.
So how does Thane Cesar become Robert Kennedy's personal security guard? Robert Maheu is your answer. Robert Maheu was a CIA operative involved in black ops and assassination since the 1940s. He joined the Hughes organization in 1954 and became chief A controlling Hughes Nevada operations. In 1975, he confessed to the Church Committee investigating CIA atrocities that in 1960, he had met with mobster Johnny Roselli on behalf of CIA director Allen Dulles to assassinate Cuban leader Fidel Castro. Dulles was fired by JFK in 1961 for attempts to draw the US into a war with Cuba. John Meier, the number two man in the Hughes organization, has put on record that Maheu carried out the assassination.
Meier once quoted J. Edgar Hoover, the first director of the FBI, saying, "We know this was a Maheu job, but I'm powerless against the CIA." The CIA was known to have blackmail on J. Edgar Hoover. Robert F. Kennedy was against Richard Nixon in the 1968 presidential race. Nixon lost his previous bid for the presidency against John F. Kennedy in 1960. Nixon was a long-time Hughes associate, and it was well known that Hughes had even given Nixon's brother, Don Nixon, a huge loan to start a chain of fast food restaurants. In return, Nixon had used his powers as vice president to get Hughes' aerospace company to be run through Hughes Medical Institute, as a charity, and therefore not subject to taxation, saving Hughes untold millions of dollars. John Meier had met with Kennedy shortly before his death, and Kennedy had told him he knew what was happening regarding the Hughes Medical Institute and was going to expose it. Meier had kept a diary from his Hughes days that he released in a book called "Age of Secrets." The book was heavily censored and essentially buried. The breakthroughs in his diary reveal the role of the Hughes organization in Robert Kennedy's murder. A short excerpt from Meier's diary reads, "October 25, 1969, my friends and I were talking to the presidency all day. We also visited the president's beach house. On the yacht, I sat stunned as Don Nixon, after many drinks, started talking about RFK's assassination. He mentioned his brother being in Texas when JFK was assassinated and Bob Maheu telling Don about his involvement in RFK's murder in Las Vegas. Maheu took credit for the RFK murder. The ones that sat around the table with their mouths open were shocked."
John Meier's diary excerpt continues:
"During June 13, 1968, I was listening to the radio where they were discussing RFK's assassination and who was shot. They mentioned Thane Eugene Cesar, who was a security guard at the hotel working for ACE Guard Security, and who was also employed by Lockheed Aircraft. I remembered Thane from his trips to Vegas, where he was meeting with numerous gaming people and was introduced to me by Jack Hooper, an associate of Robert Maheu."
June 14, 1968, Bob Maheu called me and told me to come over to his house at 8:30 p.m. that evening, and I did. He was furious and he wanted to know why I was checking up on Thane. I was stunned at his anger, and he said to me if I kept discussing this matter, he would see...
Have you got a link to that? Also, it ends at "...he would see..."
Thanks, but screenshots are a no-go.
I checked the site and it said that the enhanced tracking protection setting in the web browser broke the site. I turned it off and it worked, so I'm copying and pasting about where yours left off.
John Meier's diary excerpt continues:
"During June 13, 1968, I was listening to the radio where they were discussing RFK's assassination and who was shot. They mentioned Thane Eugene Cesar, who was a security guard at the hotel working for ACE Guard Security, and who was also employed by Lockheed Aircraft. I remembered Thane from his trips to Vegas, where he was meeting with numerous gaming people and was introduced to me by Jack Hooper, an associate of Robert Maheu."
June 14, 1968, Bob Maheu called me and told me to come over to his house at 8:30 p.m. that evening, and I did. He was furious and he wanted to know why I was checking up on Thane. I was stunned at his anger, and he said to me if I kept discussing this matter, he would see that I was no longer around the Hughes operation.
He then told me that he was responsible for all security matters in Nevada, and that he would personally handle Paul Shrade, a witness to the RFK murder.
June 15, 1968, PDM received a call from Jack Hooper. He told me that he was speaking with Bob Mayer and I was never to mention his name or Bel Air Patrol. He told me that Maheu wanted to speak to me, after we spoke, I called Maheu 15 minutes or later. Bob wanted to impress upon me that he was in charge of the Nevada operations, that everything I did in Nevada involved Hughes, he was to be informed about.
On June 16, 1968, at 5 a.m., Bob Mayer called me to ask about Don Nixon meeting that suggested 8:30 for breakfast at the Desert Inn Country Club. I went to the club, Maheu was all smiles, and Don Nixon walked in all smiles, but what happened next had to be seen to be believed. They embraced each other, and Don Nixon said, "Well, that prick is dead," and Maheu who said, "Well, it looks like your brother is in now." At the time, I didn't even know what they were talking about. Maheu joked they should be calling Don Nixon, Mr. Vice President.
Thane Cesar, who would eventually flee to the Philippines, was found to not only have worked at Lockheed Aircraft, but in their elite Skunk Works division, well known for UFO research.
The investigators bullied and intimidated Sandra Serrano, a witness who claimed a woman in a polka-dot dress and a man came out, running on the stairs saying, "We killed him, we killed him." They told her she was lying, and made her change her story; many other people recall seeing and talking to this polka-dot dress girl. David Morales, who pressured Sandra Serrano into changing his story about the polka-dot lady, was known to administer tests in South America and Vietnam, suggesting ties to the CIA. Morales drunk, pretended to friends, "I was in Dallas when we got that motherfucker, and I was in Los Angeles when we got the little bastard."
The LAPD claimed to have found the polka-dot dress lady. This was a lady named Valerie Schultz who was blonde and wearing a green dress. She looked nothing like the person described by Witnesses in a black and white dress with brown or black hair. Also, another interesting detail: a woman named Kathy Fulmer, 23, was found to have committed suicide a week after the assassination. Miss Fulmer came forward to investigators as they were seeking a girl who wore a Polka Dress.
A document has revealed that the CIA was actively monitoring Robert Kennedy and had two operatives present at the Ambassador Hotel. Investigative journalist Shane O'Sullivan's research highlighted the presence of three men identified as former CIA operatives at the hotel: George Joannides, David Morales, and Gordon Campbell.
Lieutenant Manuel Pena, a key figure in charge of the investigation, left the LAPD shortly before the assassination to work in South America for USAID, a widely known CIA front. Shortly before the assassination, he came back to the LAPD and was given command of the Special Division investigation squad in charge of conspiracies. Lisa Pease explains.
These photos you're about to see are from Scott Enyart. He took these photos on the night of the assassination. The LAPD later confiscated these photos and refused to give them back. After six months he got them back, but only got 26 out of 36 photos. He believed he didn't get the full set. Scott later learned that the LAPD destroyed 2400 pieces of evidence and his photographs before the trial.
"So why would Sirhan do this?" MKULTRA. Sirhan was working as a horse trainer for one day he got concussed after he fell off his horse. Sirhan said he stayed at the Pasadena Hospital for 3 months. His appeals attorney visited the hospital and records indicate that he stayed there for only an hour. Sirhan says others from the track were also there bandaged up after the fall.
Everyone who knew Sirhan said he was different. After the fall, Sirhan's brother said he started getting letters from the ancient mystical order of Rosicrucian and started hypnotizing himself. Sirhan disappeared 3 months before the assassination.
Also, Roselli, Johnny Roselli, owned part of the track, who had ties to Robert Maheu, which suggests Maheu got Roselli to pick out a candidate at the horse track and Sirhan was the perfect one. Also, Grant Cooper, Sirhan's lawyer, also having ties to Johnny Roselli further proof of the case for conspiracy.
Sirhan was known as the easiest type of person to hypnotize. Psychiatrist Bernard Diamond hypnotized Sirhan and he told him to start climbing on the bars under hypnosis and so he handed this. Bernard Diamond was a very shady UCLA professor, and many believe was one of the main MK-Ultra hypnotizers for CIA.
Under hypnosis, Sirhan wrote the same things found in his note about RFK which was used in the trial: "RFK must die, die," suggesting him wrote these in a hypnotic trance. These writings are eerily similar to what was found in his home.
Dr. William Bryan, a CIA hypnotist, claimed he could brainwash a person to do basically anything. He allegedly bragged about programming Sirhan to two prostitutes and Albert DeSalvo was also known to be deprogrammed by William Bryan. Sirhan's diary also mentions mind control as well as mentioning "God help me please help me." DeSalvo, could this be a link between a known CIA hypnotist and Sirhan Sirhan?
Sirhan, easily manipulated through hypnotic techniques and possibly drugged, might have been an easy target for such conspiracy. His behavior after the arrest was strange as if he was in a trance. He was described by witnesses having an empty look almost as if he was devoid of emotion and awareness of his surroundings. This is consistent with reports of individuals under deep hypnosis.
The possible involvement of parts of the CIA and other intelligence agencies cannot be dismissed. The chaotic political climate of the 1960s, marked by the assassinations of major political figures such as RFK, JFK, and MLK. The CIA, known for its covert operations and psychological experiments, had the means and motive to conduct such an operation.
Sirhan's hand couldn't have shot Robert F. Kennedy. It was Thane Caesar. He was in the perfect position, had the perfect ties, and the perfect clearance for everything. The CIA agent working under the guise of Robert Maheu was involved in the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy.
My conclusion is that Eugene Thane Caesar fired the fatal shot that killed Robert F. Kennedy. He was working under the guise of Ruben Maheu who colluded with the CIA to get an MK Ultra expert to hypnotize Sirhan Sirhan. The person who led Sirhan to the ambassador was likely the polka-dot dress girl and her accomplice and they were likely further involved.
The CIA and LAPD conspired to cover up the assassination and didn't show the full picture, looking at all these pieces of evidence that a person could conclude otherwise.
Here is another reddit thread that hasn't been deleted yet. It is an identical post of the one deleted.
https://www.reddit.com/r/FringeTheory/comments/1f1c3ly/rfk_assassination_is_so_overlooked_the_conspiracy/
Bruh the link doesn’t go anywhere. I was saving to read this for later :(
read other comments, I posted another link
Photo/phōs - "light". Ones sight within perceivable light implies "affirmative"...few suggest photos from a "negative" to invert the perception of many.
Tricking many to reason against each other over photographic evidence...based on the inversion of light and the ignorance of videre (to see)...implies photology (light discourse), which keeps those participating in the dark.
Indeed, hence few tricking many to focus on photos (negated light); pictures (captured moments) and film (moving pictures).