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When a flat Earther tells you that water cannot curve (media.conspiracies.win)
posted 1 year ago by vpnsurfer 1 year ago by vpnsurfer +21 / -10
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– jack445566778899 -3 points 1 year ago +3 / -6

By saying silly things that are trivially demonstrated wrong?!

The true purpose of the flat earth psyop is the opposite!

It is to ensure that no one seriously examines or discusses the subject because it is valuable to do so. It is labeled a "conspiracy" (when it plainly isn't one) for all the same reasons other legitimate things are - to slander, suppress, and disable general knowledge (and expression!) of them.

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– Jalapeno_gringo 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

What do they have to gain by stating the earth is round? What advantage would that produce? I know they lie when the truth will do, but I just don't see how hiding a flat earth would benefit anyone

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– free-will-of-choice 1 point 1 year ago +2 / -1

What do they have to gain by stating the earth is round?

a) Waves (life) within a line (inception towards death) can be tricked to turn against each other within circular reasoning.

b) Perception within perceivable implies center of souROUNDing...the suggestions by others tempt ones consent off-center and into CIRCEcumference.

c) What do few gain if many willingly ignore everything perceivable nature offers for the suggestions by few?

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– ceva 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

But does your heart pump blood?

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– free-will-of-choice 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Liquid force (inception towards death) generates solid frequency (life) aka pumping heart/herz/hertz for flower/blume/bloma/blood.

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– jack445566778899 -3 points 1 year ago +1 / -4

What do they have to gain by stating the earth is round? What advantage would that produce?

Keeping their job. Imagine a (science or otherwise) teacher (or most any other professional) NOT stating that the earth was round... How long do you think they would last?

One of the tactics of the psyop is to slander the subject as some sort of "conspiracy" to suppress it. Indeed this is the purpose of the terminology "conspiracy theory" outright.

The shape of the world is not a conspiracy, and humanity requires no help (nor conspiracy) to be stupid and wrong as it historically always is.

Teachers teach students that the earth is spherical because they were taught, and believe, that is its shape. There is no conspiracy required whatsoever.

However, if one were hellbent on assuming such a conspiracy does exist and some group of people were knowingly misinforming the rest of humanity (and had for literally thousands of years!) - then there are a great many potential benefits to doing so. Use your imagination! Here's one to get you started : What if there were more land not on our map/globe?

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– Throwawaylostaccount 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Here’s one:

Why do all airlines fly as if the earth is a globe and not flat

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– jack445566778899 -1 points 1 year ago +1 / -2

Why do all airlines fly as if the earth is a globe and not flat

Why do you assume that they fly as if the earth is a globe? In what way do you believe this is the case and can you provide some (likely imagined) examples?

What do you think airlines would do differently if the world were actually flat, and not spherical as it is believed?

Airplanes fly, and they often try to take as straight a line path as possible (to save fuel). They imagine they are "great circle/arcs" but experiencially to all the pilots and passengers they are straight lines.

Airplanes do not depend on the world to be any particular shape. Why do you think they should/do?

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– vpnsurfer [S] 3 points 1 year ago +4 / -1

Provide a map, size and measurements of the flat Earth.

You won't do it.

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– jack445566778899 -3 points 1 year ago +1 / -4

Provide a map, size and measurements of the flat Earth.

Assuming the earth is flat, there are many available - known as AD maps.

You won't do it.

Like providing a map would - or should! - convince you that the earth isn't the shape we were taught it is. Lol.

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– Vikingstrength1488 2 points 1 year ago +3 / -1

Keep defending the search for truth. Thank you you are right.

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– CO2_Generator 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Tell us nobody ever explained to you why Latitude and Longitude are the only way to predict surface point-locations on Earth,

without telling us nobody ever explained to you why Latitude and Longitude are the only way to predict surface point-locations on Earth.

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– jack445566778899 0 points 1 year ago +1 / -1

Tell us nobody ever explained to you why Latitude and Longitude are the only way to predict surface point-locations on Earth,

This isn't about prediction, it's about measurement. A flat map works better than a globe shaped one - which is why our maps are flat.

Assuming the world is flat, the latitude lines are circles and the longitude lines are axial lines from the north pole. The arbitrary coordinate system we use has absolutely no bearing on the shape of the world. This is an encouraged erroneous conflation.

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– CO2_Generator 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

And prediction can only be done with proper measurement, illiterate.

Flat maps DON'T work better, that's why the SPHERICAL COORDINATES are MARKED on ALL FLAT MAPS.

And the MAPS are ALTERED so they more CLOSELY reflect reality of the planet being a sphere.

YOU who don't even know why Longitude and Latitude EXISTS, and are the SOLE COORDINATES USED on even FLAT MAPS,

vs EVERY MAP MAKER who EVER EXISTED:

Everyone coming by take otice how jack thinks FLAT MAPS apply to Earth better?

MAP PROJECTION: THE SCIENCE OF TRYING to MAKE FLAT MAPS fit EARTH as WELL as GLOBES DO.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map_projection

That's catastrophic failure of your lack of knowledge,

even of the reason for existence of,

the MEASUREMENTS TAKING PLACE on MAPS,

being in LONGITUDE and LATITUDE.

Using only:

S P E R I C A L geometry

surface area formulas.

There is no reference, of any kind, EVER:

to anything flat, in deriving them.

Ever.

All measurements are taking SOLELY from a SPHERE:

of a PRECISE and unchanging size.

COMPARED M.E.A.S.U.R.E.M.E.N.T.S.

match the SURFACE AREA

FORMULAS,

in the Geometry,

no one ever told you about.

https://www.nosco.ch/mathematics/en/earth-coordinates.php

All systems measuring Earth surface are SPHERICAL coordinates systems.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographic_coordinate_system

[For broader coverage of this topic, see Spatial reference system.]

A geographic coordinate system (or GCS) is a SPHERICAL, or geodetic coordinate system,

for measuring and communicating positions directly on the Earth,

as latitude and longitude.

It is the simplest, oldest and most widely used of the various spatial reference systems that are in use, and forms the basis for most others.

The geographic coordinate system is not cartesian, because the measurements are angles related to a sphere; and are not on a planar surface."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_coordinate_system

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– jack445566778899 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

And prediction can only be done with proper measurement

Actually, no. But i get your meaning.

Flat maps DON'T work better

Of course they do. That's why we have used them for millennia and continue to today.

vs EVERY MAP MAKER who EVER EXISTED

Again, the depiction and coordinate system chosen (and even believed to be correct) by the mapmaker are arbitrary and irrelevant to the actual shape of the world. The map is a tool for travel, nothing more.

That's catastrophic failure of your lack of knowledge ....

Everything you say beyond this line is restating the same misunderstanding. Of course the world is depicted as spherical, and has a coordinate system that is consistent with that depiction. It's not a coincidence, nor providence of the worlds actual shape! We believe it's spherical and have for thousands of years! It has no bearing on the actual shape of the world - it's just arbitrarily chosen to be consistent with that belief.

If the world is flat, and/or not spherical, then it is your "catastrophic failure and lack of knowledge" we are actually discussing. Right?

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– CO2_Generator 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Wrong answer hillbilly.

The coordinates system for CORRECT SURFACE AREA and surface point LOCATION prediction is NOT arbitrary.

You're just an illiterate, innumerate hick who nobody ever taught how Longitude and Latitude operate to successfully predict on the surface of the planet.

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– ceva 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

How come serious attempts at discussion get ignored and/or get empty responses actively withholding information?

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– jack445566778899 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

How come serious attempts at discussion get ignored

Do you have an example? Personally, i try not to ignore anything, though life certainly gets in the way and sometimes it takes me a while to respond.

and/or get empty responses actively withholding information?

Personally, i try to answer questions as thoroughly as i can. However, the one exception is when doing so will make the student weaker at doing their own research and thinking for themselves.

Im very happy to help any earnest students in their research, but i should not, and will not do it for them.

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– ceva 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Our discussion about a scale model of the earth comes to mind

As well as our talks about Antarctica

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– jack445566778899 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Our discussion about a scale model of the earth comes to mind

Was there more of that conversation to be had? I think we had pretty well concluded it. You were in search of a completely accurate scale model of the earth - and in general, one doesn't exist - regardless of what shape it actually is.

As well as our talks about Antarctica

Again, i don't think there was much of anything left unsaid and certainly nothing ignored. You may not have been satisfied with my answers, but that is a different matter.

If there really is anything you asked/discussed that you think was ignored, please cite/link to it specifically so i can properly address it!

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