When a flat Earther tells you that water cannot curve
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And prediction can only be done with proper measurement, illiterate.
Flat maps DON'T work better, that's why the SPHERICAL COORDINATES are MARKED on ALL FLAT MAPS.
And the MAPS are ALTERED so they more CLOSELY reflect reality of the planet being a sphere.
YOU who don't even know why Longitude and Latitude EXISTS, and are the SOLE COORDINATES USED on even FLAT MAPS,
vs EVERY MAP MAKER who EVER EXISTED:
Everyone coming by take otice how jack thinks FLAT MAPS apply to Earth better?
MAP PROJECTION: THE SCIENCE OF TRYING to MAKE FLAT MAPS fit EARTH as WELL as GLOBES DO.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map_projection
That's catastrophic failure of your lack of knowledge,
even of the reason for existence of,
the MEASUREMENTS TAKING PLACE on MAPS,
being in LONGITUDE and LATITUDE.
Using only:
S P E R I C A L geometry
surface area formulas.
There is no reference, of any kind, EVER:
to anything flat, in deriving them.
Ever.
All measurements are taking SOLELY from a SPHERE:
of a PRECISE and unchanging size.
COMPARED M.E.A.S.U.R.E.M.E.N.T.S.
match the SURFACE AREA
FORMULAS,
in the Geometry,
no one ever told you about.
https://www.nosco.ch/mathematics/en/earth-coordinates.php
All systems measuring Earth surface are SPHERICAL coordinates systems.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographic_coordinate_system
[For broader coverage of this topic, see Spatial reference system.]
A geographic coordinate system (or GCS) is a SPHERICAL, or geodetic coordinate system,
for measuring and communicating positions directly on the Earth,
as latitude and longitude.
It is the simplest, oldest and most widely used of the various spatial reference systems that are in use, and forms the basis for most others.
The geographic coordinate system is not cartesian, because the measurements are angles related to a sphere; and are not on a planar surface."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_coordinate_system
Actually, no. But i get your meaning.
Of course they do. That's why we have used them for millennia and continue to today.
Again, the depiction and coordinate system chosen (and even believed to be correct) by the mapmaker are arbitrary and irrelevant to the actual shape of the world. The map is a tool for travel, nothing more.
Everything you say beyond this line is restating the same misunderstanding. Of course the world is depicted as spherical, and has a coordinate system that is consistent with that depiction. It's not a coincidence, nor providence of the worlds actual shape! We believe it's spherical and have for thousands of years! It has no bearing on the actual shape of the world - it's just arbitrarily chosen to be consistent with that belief.
If the world is flat, and/or not spherical, then it is your "catastrophic failure and lack of knowledge" we are actually discussing. Right?
Yes, clown. You must measure correctly to predict. In geo-location, the word predict means "say correctly, a point will be where it is formulated to be."
This is a science, that uses mathematical formulas, to say ahead of time where something is going to be.
And no, clown, I PERSONALLY provided you the link to the SCIENCE that TRIES to MAKE FLAT MAPS work AS WELL as GLOBES.
You are in FLAT DENIAL of the ENTIRE SCIENCE - and it is as COMPLICATED as the MATHEMATICS of SPHERES you never learned,
of ''Map Projection."
https://www.google.com/search?q=Map+Projection&oq=Map+Projection&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQLhhA0gEINTEzMmowajCoAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
This is an ENORMOUSLY important science to navigation, you're just illiterate.
Again, you're utterly wrong about the choice of surface areas for travel and prediction on the surfaces of any geometry being unimportant.
They're so important that the only way to successfully predict surface point locations, is to use a mathematical model that is identical to the surface of the geometry,
or you're describing the surface of ANOTHER geometry.
The field of science they teach 10 and 12 year-olds, that nobody ever taught you, mandates it.
To find surface points on a cube you must have a mathematical model that matches that cube in EVERY single particular.
To correctly predict surface points on a sphere you must have a mathematical model that matches that sphere in EVERY single particular, or YOUR predictions of where things will be, will be WRONG.
You're just an innumerate, illiterate hillbilly no one ever taught geometry to.
This is incorrect. Even to make correct predictions does not require measurement. This is, of course, besides the point.
Map projection is obviously not a science.
From my perspective, you are in "flat denial" of the science of hydrostatics (a branch of physics).
This is wrong. Nothing abstract (in this case math or any other language) mandates anything about reality - nor can it.
The world is whatever shape it is, and the arbitrary coordinate system and/or deeply held beliefs of cartographers have no bearing on that shape.
Maps are not for prediction, but for travel. If the map is wrong, we fix it.
Your fervent and belligerent belief will not change the shape of the world. The real question remains; if you were wrong about the shape of the world - would you want to know it? Or would you prefer to just keep yelling, meaninglessly and pathetically, online?
By the way hillbilly when you can prove you understand how and why, long/lat are derived, you'll be fit to ask questions about 'Wouldn't you want to know?'
I did want to know which is why I mastered the spherical coordinates relative to the geographical coordinates governing location prediction on this planet.
The fact you're such a mentally ill imbecile that you don't realize you use maps so you can PREDICT WHERE YOU HAVE TO TRAVEL to GO somewhere is a classical example of you,
the Bodine Institute government school dropout,
trying to involve yourself in something you don't understand.
If you DID understand you'd be able to discuss HOW and WHY longitude/latitude are the SOLE
SPHERICAL COORDINATES,
used for travel on the surface of this planet.
You're SO stupid you don't even know HOW nor WHY they are used.
They're used because they are derived FOR a SPHERE, the PRECISE DIAMETER of Earth,
BECAUSE,
SPHERICAL coordinates are the ONLY WAY to PREDICT LOCATIONS, or surface points, on
SPHERES.
YOU'RE the HICK, I'm the expert with the Bachelor's Degree in those very
same
PREDICTIVE mathematics,
that make the AUTO PILOTS I trained and worked on for several years,
PREDICT WHERE a PLANE has to be flown.
You're just an ignorant wannabe who thinks you'll keep talking until longitude and latitude aren't the SOLE means of PREDICTION of surface points and locations on this SPHERICAL planet, at Mean Sea Level.
You're so stupid you don't even know how Mean Sea Level is derived, nor why.
It's the third part of the 3D Longitude/Latitude system.
Mean Sea Level EXISTS as the THIRD DIMENSION of that 3D system.
You're such a hick you don't even know why it exists or how it would be derived.
As part of a SPHERICAL MATHEMATICAL COORDINATES system that can be used to PREDICT where on a MAP you'll be is how.
From ''you're perspective?"
You don't HAVE a perspective. You're another untutored hick who broke down and stopped trying to understand the simple mathematical system 12 and 14 year-olds teach themselves so they can learn to fly planes, cross-country navigate, and sail boats.
Go LEARN why Long/Lat MUST be SPHERICAL coordinates
Go LEARN why LATITUDE LINES grow SHORTER near the poles.
Go LEARN, you insipid, blathering hick, why Longitude lines, are ALL the SAME LENGTH.
As it is you're just another embarrassment to mentally ill people who think because you can't count, mathematics isn't real.
It's real, hick. You're just ridiculously stupid, and too pussified and lazy, to learn what you're blathering incoherently about.
SHOW these PEOPLE you UNDERSTAND what Longitude/Latitude are, and HOW they're derived wrong.
Come in here and show everyone the graphs and illustrations associated with deriving them.
Explain to everyone what Mean Sea Level is, and how that's not real,
Explain to everyone what longitude/latutude are, and how THEY'RE not REAL,
even though they're THE ONLY SYSTEM EVER DEVISED and WIDELY USED to TRAVEL on EARTH cause it's the ONLY SYSTEM that makes MAPS be able to PREDICT, where one will wind up after X, Y, Z miles/km of travel.
Ten internet bucks says you're a chickenshit who'll never grow the balls to do it.
And everyone who understands how a f**cking COMPASS operates will look on and laugh under their breath at how mentally ill you Flat Earth-billies are.
I lost this account for a long time due to the password.
You're an ignorant hick. Maps exist solely FOR purposes of PREDICTION.
You're just a hick.
Who nobody ever taught the 5th grade science of Geometry to.
Map projection is PRECISELY the SCIENCE of attempting best-fit of SPHERICAL MATHEMATICS to FLAT CARTESIAN PLANES.
Again - you're just another Bodine institute simpleton.
Again hick show the people here you know how and why longitude and latitude are derived, why Mean Sea Level is part of that 3D spherical coordinates system, or stop yelling online that "thim mathy thangs ain't rieeeeeal."
OBVIOUSLY you've made the choice to just keep yelling, meaninglessly and pathetically online, thus far.
When you can PROVE you UNDERSTAND
HOW and WHY longitude/latitude EXIST,
discuss their REASON for existing intelligently,
showing you understand HOW and WHY
E A C H of the THREE DIMENTIONS is calculated the way it is,
you won't be the Bodine Institute clown you're accusing people who DID learn the mathematics you don't understand, of being.